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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- That's one heck of a speech coming from Kawasumi lol I think he meant every word of it though especially when it comes to protecting Suiren from anything or anyone :D |
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| so it's the ending?? this chapter, i mean. |
| This was the final chapter guys. |
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| This is really the end? |
| It should have ended a lot sooner, there was a ton of unnecessary drama |
| Naruto Fangay right here. Kappa 2EZ4RTZ BibleThump Lepo Lepo |
| I honestly tried to like this :( the pacing and the characters let me down. Suiren is a cutie but after a while her personality got on my nerves. It was okay for me. |
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| goodness what the heck of an ending was that? last twenty or so chapters were pretty meh overall. Atohira loving Suiren was just thrown in there, Koharu as a character... I didn't get the purpose of her besides making pointless complications and the author did a whole load of nothing with her anyway. And what a closure to Aya's little side story there, why even bother? I liked Aya as a character but that was just so disappointing. Too little happened in too long. |
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| this is the ending???????? the manga is already too slow but then in the last 15 chapters it gets rushed????? such a bas writing tbh completely disappointed |
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| The first 40 chapters or so was really cute (I don't mind slow paced romance) but after that, I felt like the manga dragged on a little, or rather, there wasn't much to expand on. But it was still a good read (the pretty art helped) and I don't regret reading it at all. |
| Can't be the last. Chapter list says 83 and there was no page saying the end or full author notes saying thank you and can't wait to release next project, etc. There's definitely more coming. |
| Aaahh it has ended T^T It would be great to add a few chapters to show how their relationship develops as they mature into young adults. Even without that, I still love the ending >.<. Sure there are some skip-able chapters but all in all I enjoy everything this manga has to offer. It left me contented and satisfied. |
| Okay. That felt kinda rushed. But was it really the last chapter? It didn't feel like it was the last one though. Hmmm... |
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| Actually a really good series despite being super simple and lacking depth. The writing is good and so is the pacing of the romance between the two mains. I really enjoyed the character dynamics and interactions between the main pair. They are both quiet and introverted which made it really interesting. Usually a heroine like Suiren would get paired up with a sunshine boy (Ryosuke for example). But here, she got the quiet, yet strong boy. They are both very traditional and innocent which was great. I thought this series had more potential but it did not meet it. The side characters were done half assedly. Seriously, this could have been just a tad better if the subplots felt more normal and less "oh no we're lacking in ideas for this week/month's chapter!". Especially, Koharu, Atohira and Aya. Like they had potential to be better but no. The Atohira love triangle was really awkwardly thrown in. Well, either way, this series is a classic despite a few flaws. By classic I mean, it does what a shoujo manga should do and it does it well. I had a fun time so 8/10 final score. A few superficial things: paneling was excellent, so we're colours and art. And the big pro is that the artist puts a lot of effort in making actions stronger than words, for the main pair. Seiyuu choices if this got an Anime: (without looking at drama cd cast) Kawasumi: Originally wanted Ono Kensho but then Nobunaga Shimazaki started playing in my head. Atohira: Hosoya Yoshimasa, but if they wanted to go for a more delinquent personality, Suzuken works too. Ryousuke: easily Okamoto Nobuhiko or someone high pitched like Kimura Ryouhei Suiren: Ai Kayano, or Yurika Kubo because both gals pull of a precious, delicate voice Aya: Mimori Suzuko because I can see Umi from Love Live in her character Maguro: Kusada Aina because I can see Nozomi from Love Live in her character Daisuke: Shimono Hiro or Matsuoka Yoshitsugu because they're perceived as not fully matured or dominant After checking drama cd: Yup, I can hear Osaka Ryouta!! He would fit lmao. HanaKana is a great choice as well. Can't believe I forgot about her. Sawashiro was my second choice for Aya! Perfect... Shimono is a good choice for Ryousuke! |
| oh... the last? Guess it's time for me to quit hanging on to the 8 from when I dropped it from a 9... I want to give this a 6 out of spite but I'll give it a goodbye with a 7. |
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| Overall, it was a little bit disappointing. The art was fantastic, no doubt. Everyone looked good, backgrounds were good, heck even the food looked good. The story itself though was not as great. Already being a slow paced manga, near the end, it dragged even more, and then suddenly it kind of ended. The love triangle with Atohira started and ended abruptly. Koharu didn't really get a proper resolution. The side story with Aya felt like wasted potential. As was a lot of the side characters actually. That being said, the romance was cute. It was an interesting aspect to see two quiet people date. The gestures over words was done well enough and got the message across. 6/10! |
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| Ending was real sweet but wanted more QQ so many thing were left unanswered |
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| this was horrible story telling. side characters: why the heck did Aya, the best friend and childhood friend, get her main spotlight through two chapters about unrequited love at the End? She should have been the main side character, braking out of her comfort zone and experiencing things. Experiencing not always having to or being able to protect Suiren. Their childhood friendship wasn't even emphasized until the End!! Yuri got the side character spotlight, and that was just Dumb imo. coherency. continuity. freaking Nonexistent. chapters ending abruptly at the weirdest times. messy panels. not messy as in ugly art, but fluency. it's nowhere to be found. and the MC doesn't start carrying conversations until like 50 chapters in. Their relationship, from the start, should have been a journey about her growth and change. She's shaking and nodding the entire time and suddenly 50 chapters in she speaks a paragraph? Where is the flow in this manga? The worst of all: The love rivals. 1) Atohira is probably the WORST love rival I have ever witnessed in any demographic. There was no flow into him falling in love. He just kept popping up and Scolding his childhood friend about not holding hands and kissing, as if that is any of his business lol? And, then he is jealous? How? Why? I understand how Kawasumi fell for Suiren. She stared at only him. She was randomly talking to him only. Her somewhat effort came thru their contact. But, nope, not even the slightest explanation as to why Atohira fell for her. He admitted She only smiles about Kawasumi, She only talks more about Kawasumi. He couldn't possibly fall for her Just BC she was unattainable, right? Plus all that time later and he still kisses her on the cheek. Um..? That shit is not okay? Lol What if Koharu had kissed Suiren's boyfriend on the cheek just bc she was rejected? Gtfo. Koharu. I'm upset that she didn't have a meltdown of some sort. An outburst of jealousy. Rage. SOMETHING directed at Suiren. What the heck was the point in showing us that Koharu fell for Atohira when Atohira fell for Suiren if we weren't going to see a major throwdown of emotions????? She sincerely loved two people who loved another girl, The same girl. That is heartbreak we should have seen unfold physically and emotionally. I honestly could complain all day. The cuteness overload does not save this story, At All. 4/10 for me. |
sadcyborgJun 5, 2016 7:06 AM
| Is that really the ending?? Why does mal has it listed as 83 chapters then? Also, the little space that always says 'to continue' at the bottom was left empty... The chapter was long than most though. Still after halfway through the series it just went down. I didn't particularly dislike the characters, but still. It was obvious that Aya had a thing for Ryousuke, but that wrap up was super lame. If they weren't going to bother they should had just left it as a 'she didn't realize' type of deal. The art was really pretty though. |
| i don't even realize it was ending until i rechecked my list O_O... the fuck was that? it started out really nice slow progressing drama, and the the whole unnecessary side character drama starting to bug me a lot.. 6/10... |
 "If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| Made a character chart for the manga |
| That was it? It ended when they finally start to make progress? I thought she's gonna show more of them now that they start to voice out what they feel. That scene at the auditorium is cool. Kawasumi finally did it and cooly as well and him running with Suiren after they got out of school. Everyone was cheering likr they got married or something. The scene at the gate of the school with the girls made me cry. They got really close and they have to go separate ways because of college. It would be nice to see more scenes of them together during college meeting up whenever they can. The issue with Aya. She should have addressed it sooner. I have a feeling Aya likes Ryosuke in the earlier chapter but since we're invested in Kawasumi and Suiren's relationship it was ignored. But it shouldn't be addressed like that in few chapters near the end. She should have a better closure for that feelings of her like Atohira (he was lucky he was able to accept and let go of that feelings after confessing). The last few chapters was really rushed and it was a shame. It would have been better if the pacing was the same though it would be a really long series. @pieetr was it mentioned that Atohira and Koharu started dating or you assumed it with what Atohira said to her? I feel like Koharu was just forcing her feelings to him. Don't know why she has to keep appearing after being rejected by Kawasumi twice. |
| @pieetr Oh thanks. |
| suiren was so cute <3 A lot of forced Drama ruined some of my enjoyement still like it 7/10 |
tragedydesuJan 12, 2017 1:00 PM
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Tensho said: goodness what the heck of an ending was that? last twenty or so chapters were pretty meh overall. Atohira loving Suiren was just thrown in there, Koharu as a character... I didn't get the purpose of her besides making pointless complications and the author did a whole load of nothing with her anyway. And what a closure to Aya's little side story there, why even bother? I liked Aya as a character but that was just so disappointing. Too little happened in too long. This post sums up my entire thoughts on this manga. Despite there being about 83 chapters or so, it feels like there was so many things lacking in the overall story, let alone Kawasumi and Suiren's relationship.. Like there's no closure between Aya and Ryosuke, Atohira's arc was kinda weird and had no closure either, Yuri and Daisuke's relationship is so irrelevant, and don't even get me started with Kawasumi and Suiren... Like why was there so many time skips? Kawasumi and Suiren's relationship was already progressing slowly enough as it is, so how will time skips help? Like how did they even manage to get through 2-3 years of dating each other? We need to actually see the progression in their relationship and not just have it shoved down our throats because of the time skips.. Also, how did they even overcome any of the issues they faced together as a couple.. UGH. 83 chapters and I still feel like I haven't even seen enough of this manga to even be satisfied. Don't get me wrong. I really do want to like this manga, but it's just hard because of all these flaws.. Overall, I give this a 7/10 (and that's being generous). The story written on paper isn't so bad, but the execution of it was just, idek.. Kuma said: i don't even realize it was ending until i rechecked my list O_O... the fuck was that? it started out really nice slow progressing drama, and the the whole unnecessary side character drama starting to bug me a lot.. 6/10... RIGHT? The beginning was nice and sweet, but then things just started happening way too fast to even process it.. |
GemFeb 23, 2017 3:35 AM
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Gem said: Kuma said: i don't even realize it was ending until i rechecked my list O_O... the fuck was that? it started out really nice slow progressing drama, and the the whole unnecessary side character drama starting to bug me a lot.. 6/10... RIGHT? The beginning was nice and sweet, but then things just started happening way too fast to even process it.. personaly, how fast the ending was not a problem, but how little attached me to character that supposed to taken seriously since they are pretty much there look like only to developing main couple, but then suddenly had to taken seriously... the drama simply didn't provoke my feelings...... |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
Gem said: Tensho said: goodness what the heck of an ending was that? last twenty or so chapters were pretty meh overall. Atohira loving Suiren was just thrown in there, Koharu as a character... I didn't get the purpose of her besides making pointless complications and the author did a whole load of nothing with her anyway. And what a closure to Aya's little side story there, why even bother? I liked Aya as a character but that was just so disappointing. Too little happened in too long. This post sums up my entire thoughts on this manga. Despite there being about 83 chapters or so, it feels like there was so many things lacking in the overall story, let alone Kawasumi and Suiren's relationship.. Like there's no closure between Aya and Ryosuke, Atohira's arc was kinda weird and had no closure either, Yuri and Daisuke's relationship is so irrelevant, and don't even get me started with Kawasumi and Suiren... Like why was there so many time skips? Kawasumi and Suiren's relationship was already progressing slowly enough as it is, so how will time skips help? Like how did they even manage to get through 2-3 years of dating each other? We need to actually see the progression in their relationship and not just have it shoved down our throats because of the time skips.. Also, how did they even overcome any of the issues they faced together as a couple.. UGH. 83 chapters and I still feel like I haven't even seen enough of this manga to even be satisfied. Don't get me wrong. I really do want to like this manga, but it's just hard because of all these flaws.. Overall, I give this a 7/10 (and that's being generous). The story written on paper isn't so bad, but the execution of it was just, idek.. The extra chapters have been trickling in one by one long after I wrote that but actually haven't changed my opinion on the series really. I think Yuri had a little chapter of her own which I don't remember much of tbh lol but I do remember wanting to see a bit more of her romance and Koharu also got some closure with Atohira? in university which I liked most out of the bonus chapters. I recall Aya's little arc in the manga and it still kills me to remember how badly things went for her lol |
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crimson_fukr said: Lol. Oh God. This is all fluffy all around. Takane is a shitload of cuteness though, but Koharu's personality is much better. One poster hit it squarely when he said the author really did a good job conveying the actions and body language due to the lack of dialogue. Shiba is a goddamn truck of cuteness, those shirt tugging panels, her chibi expressions is just too sweet. Lastly, Aya.. god damn I can't help but feel for her. She's my favorite character, and she has the only chick who had such a cruel closure. Wtf, losing Baka Ryo to one fodder extra character nobody cares about. It's like Kurosawa losing his soulmate to Afro guy in Love so life. Argh. Overall it was satisfying, everybody had their closudes, wrapped in the end, even Koharu. It's just Aya T_T 9.5/10. That proposal to Shibazeki in the end was Hardo-boildo. *Senior Pink approves It wasn't Love so life but Onani Master Kurosawa |
| Well, there's nothing diff that made the last chapter stand out and memorable. Yeah he somehow proposed, the ending just doesn't feel satisfying. We got like 3 hugs, and 2 kisses (1 on the cheek) for the entire story. I wish we saw their relationship progressed more, or the 'extra' chapters showed them in univ -> Work -> Family, or high school reunion |
| I don't know why but Koharu is the character I did like the most at the end. It's a good series to pass the time. |
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| The last few chapters felt like they dragged on with some unnecessary drama. Other than that it was a lot of fun to read. |
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| Honestly this was meh. The romance was whatever and the characters just weren't very interesting. Justice for Aya. At least give her somebody to like or be liked by goddamn. |
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