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Aug 12, 2015 8:54 AM
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The action felt meh. Although for story purposes, this is the most serious episode so far.

Got slightly better in the second half I guess and the girls are actually working together. I think Lecty's abilities improved as well. Is it also just me or does Kanata's sword seem quite big?





Aug 12, 2015 10:38 AM
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Pretty good showing by the girls against the beetles...not so much in their match. Time for a tournament! Looks like creepy glasses guy is gonna get even creepier...
Aug 12, 2015 10:50 AM
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Kanata is too op. Damn he one-shot that thing.
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The girls sure have improving a lot.

I can't wait to see what will happen to that insect core liking creature that the glasses guy has found!
Aug 12, 2015 10:54 AM
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For now, Kanata has just fought in the limited time. And I think the glasses guy was possessed by the devil eyes. Look for next episode.
Aug 12, 2015 10:58 AM
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OH poor Cafe, Poor dad better start rebuilding right away.

I really can't stand Yuri, she's the one wanting to run away and yet she's so damn quick to blame Kanata. I have no clue why main MC has a thing for her. But atleast they finally call her out for her love for kanata .

Oh and did he block that massive green beam with nothing but his arm, like really.....REALLY...but him going badass and finally getting into the fight made up for it.

So let me guess glasses guy will become evil and steal Yuri

Main MC is holding this show together right now, nothing else
Aug 12, 2015 11:05 AM
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Sooner or later, Kanata was bound to pull off some OP technique, but what exactly was that, if not magic? I like how he reaffirmed his superiority just before firing that blue Strike Blaster. That pretty much sealed the deal that Mistgun will never fall as long as he's in charge.

I don't get Yuri.. She's still insistent on referring Kanata as a traitor and even believed he'd be the first one to run away. Despite all that, she's obviously in tsun-tsun love with him. Such complicated feelings.

That megane guy will probably become the next villain. I may be going out on a limb but, he'll take up that Chimera eye to devise something and with Freon's suggestion being approved, his experiments will be used in the new Academy tournament. Recipe for disaster?

Aug 12, 2015 11:15 AM
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You knew the OPness was coming from Kanata at some point and we finally got it. He just doesn't give a fuck about taking that credit. The girls were fighting pretty solidly here as well... of course, until it was time for their ranked match :P

As for the overall episode, it was ok. I didn't expect too much. I still don't understand the reason for Kanata acting like a "traitor". And as always, Yuri gonna Yuri.
Aug 12, 2015 11:18 AM
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Kanata the beast.

That eye possed the stalker-dude i think??????
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Aug 12, 2015 11:34 AM
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The preview seems to show that four-eyed pos put it in a healing pod to regenerate it.
It's just another reason as to why I think he's a pos.
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Well, I still more curious why Kanada call traitor, maybe the power he used right now went berserker or something that's why they put all blame on him or was it when he rush into the enemy and kind of lose all high magic capacity. dunno.

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Aug 12, 2015 11:38 AM

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Was hoping to see some good results at their ranked match, I shouldn't have expected anything.
That badass Kanata moment was good though.
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Aug 12, 2015 11:42 AM

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We all knew Kanata was OP as fuck







Aug 12, 2015 11:48 AM

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I like the fact that they lost. It's more realistic that they couldn't have won against one of the best teams.
I don't like Yuri. She's a shitty character.
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Aug 12, 2015 11:55 AM

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Quite the episode, finally some action. It seems Kanata has other power besides the base magic one.
Aug 12, 2015 11:57 AM

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Finally we get to see Kanata's power.

I wonder what the eye thing was...
Aug 12, 2015 12:06 PM

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The action as mostly lame and low-budget but Kanata was pretty badass, even if he is way too OP.

I'm not looking forward to the tournament arc though if it means more low-budget action scenes.
Aug 12, 2015 12:09 PM

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Kanata is too op. Damn he one-shot that thing.


He reminds me of Tatsuya from mahouka
Aug 12, 2015 12:24 PM

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Now I'm positive producers are just fucking around. You just can't write something so bad without deliberately putting effort into making really shitty dialogues and incoherent plot full of holes.
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Aug 12, 2015 12:35 PM

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this anime never fails to amuse me by how bad it can be..
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Aug 12, 2015 12:40 PM

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Why the fuck is the fighting scene so half-assed? Studio problem or the mangaka problem? WTF. The most suckiest combat I ever see.
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Aug 12, 2015 12:53 PM

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I was hoping that it would be Chloe who had feelings towards Kanata, since they are kind of close... But, well it is what it is, Yuri likes him (Obviously had to be the underclassman, tsundere girl)
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This episode was meh all across the board, but i've come to expect that from this show, so I guess that made it a little more palatable. Yuri sure pisses me off, Kanata should tell her to take a hike. If anyone should be standing by a guy, it should be the girl who loves him, but she calls him a traitor more than anyone else does. And it's his other two friends who stood by him and believed in him instead. Those are solid peeps right there.
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The animation is really bad imo.
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So what Misora said during Kanata's fight that his magic was different somehow seems to suggest he is hiding something.
And from what was mentioned during the tournament it seem only few people know he was the one who took down that boss.
The question is why is he hiding it to such extent and is his health really effected.

As for the loss my theory is that they where either exhausted from the fight against the bugs or the enemy team was simply stranger than them.
Well next week seems to be about a tournament so we should see better results.
Tho their enemy seems to be a B team.
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I can live with low budget shows if we get more seasons.
But if they're not gonna animate the action scenes then atleast do it in good cgi, it cheap too just like they want.

The beetles were cool, I wonder how it's like at the surface of the planet XD

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Aug 12, 2015 2:00 PM

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The darkness is strong on this one (?)
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I still wonder how did Kanata and Misora casually talk when there was like few kilometers distance between them.
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I still wonder how did Kanata and Misora casually talk when there was like few kilometers distance between them.


Lol I was thinking the same. Anyway, interesting powers from Kanata, however it seems like there is also a time limit and he will be out of power.
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I still wonder how did Kanata and Misora casually talk when there was like few kilometers distance between them.


Yeah. I thought Kanata had some super teleport powers and got behind Misora to talk but fuck he's up in the sky lol.

Stalker guy got possessed by that Eye? I want more Yuri x Kanata scene.
Aug 12, 2015 3:09 PM
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I was hoping that it would be Chloe who had feelings towards Kanata, since they are kind of close... But, well it is what it is, Yuri likes him (Obviously had to be the underclassman, tsundere girl)

Meh I thought the same, Chloe is the best girl so far (there is hardly any). Yuri is freaking annoying she reminds me of Isuca...thank God she doesn't have a lot of screen time. (And well it's not that this show is that much better than that crap).
Aug 12, 2015 3:48 PM

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Alright. Kanata's OP. Fight could've been better, but alright. And of course, the girls lost their battle at the end.


Aug 12, 2015 4:09 PM

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A bit disappointed that they didn't show the actual ranking match (I'm interested to see how they lost, or the skill of the other teams - none of that has really been shown yet), but next episode seems to be a tournament, so that should make up for it.
Aug 12, 2015 4:39 PM

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I personally watch this show because of story, animation wise its terrible, specialty on fights.

Maybe the source material its not much know, so the studio have low expectations even before made the anime?
Aug 12, 2015 5:12 PM

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Damn even after all that so call training and fighting those dum beetles they still suck and lost the match. LOL! XD

Anyway even though they lost Lecty is still best girl to me. And Yuri is still cute as always.
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I don't even know why I am watching this anymore.
Aug 12, 2015 5:32 PM

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Well, they lost the match but hey, its a start. I'm sure they'll improve more.
Aug 12, 2015 5:48 PM

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Very solid episode
I really like the direction the anime is going :)
Aug 12, 2015 6:00 PM

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This show does SoL decently, but once battles and fighting comes into play, the lack of tension from the SoL portion just creeps in and encompasses the show. If the invasion of the beetles was suppose to be tense and exciting... well, I'm not feeling it in the slightest. The way the beetles waited for them to finish all their dialogues before attacking, you'd get the impression that they were extras in a set that don't actually move until you told them to. That and the complete lack of a semblance of fighting back when they are attacked, just gave those battles an unnerving sense of unrealism. Even bugs would try to dodge from being swatted by us, yet those beetles just went "come here and stomp on me" mindlessly.

Same with the mock battle at the end, it was all talk. No tension at all. You don't see them fight, and you don't even see them look the slightest bit ragged after losing the match either (for both teams). It felt like they had a singing contest instead of an actual battle.

Not sure if that's how they wanted to portray this, but it was a bit disappointing. Kinda reminds me of World Break (the lack of tension at least).

I guess we sort of got some development, what with revealing how Kanata should be OP if not for the incident prior to the show rendering his OP mode into a limited-time state. That and the Yuri-crazed fanboy getting hypnotized by the Beetle core at the end.
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Hooray! Now we get a tournament arc! No, that's not it. God dammit, another freaking tournament arc. There. That was much better.
Aug 12, 2015 6:54 PM

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It's not that this series is great. Its source material is clearly not on the level of, say, Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei. Even then, this series clearly is underperforming. This episode could've been a turning point for an otherwise average series, but it fell pretty flat and in doing so illustrates a lot of the problems.

First, too much garbage dialogue. I get that the source material may have had all that dialogue built in, but in anime, where we're shown a bunch of armored insects infiltrating the city, it's just not realistic for them to be wasting time doing/saying non-consequential stuff. This is pretty much a life or death situation for the city. And it didn't feel like that at all. Second, the soundtrack isn't doing any work. Great series feature background music that more or less amplify the audience's emotional response. The music for much of this episode was just...bland. Third, there are just too many absurdities that can't be explained away. We see a bunch of armored insects coming into the city--they can't possibly have been all destroyed by three people, but that's what it's made to look like. Nor was it really possible that literally no one else is there to help out. Imagine yourself as the general of a castle and a bunch of enemies just swarmed in: wouldn't you rush your best troops back instead of being like "oh well they're tied up let's let the newbies take care of the situation"? But that's precisely what happened. No one knew Age was there, but somehow the invasion was just allowed to proceed. What gives?

Lastly, of course the guy obsessed with Yuri is going to end up as an antagonist at some point. This is anime cliche at its finest.

Again, the production company likely isn't handed the best source material. The directing of this series truly brings it down to mediocrity though.
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Same with the mock battle at the end, it was all talk. No tension at all. You don't see them fight, and you don't even see them look the slightest bit ragged after losing the match either (for both teams). It felt like they had a singing contest instead of an actual battle.


I was thinking the same thing when I saw that. I mean, the main thing here seems to be that the girls are supposed to be getting stronger, but when they get to the match they've been training for the whole time, it gets skipped, no one looks tired after the match, and they still lost somehow? I mean, wtf?

I would understand if they mentioned that they were still tired after fighting the beetles, so they couldn't fight properly, but they didn't, so it gives the impression that they got a few days rest between, and were fighting at full power. And still lost without anyone looking worse for the wear immediately after the battle. >_<
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OH poor Cafe, Poor dad better start rebuilding right away.

I really can't stand Yuri, she's the one wanting to run away and yet she's so damn quick to blame Kanata. I have no clue why main MC has a thing for her. But atleast they finally call her out for her love for kanata .

Oh and did he block that massive green beam with nothing but his arm, like really.....REALLY...but him going badass and finally getting into the fight made up for it.

So let me guess glasses guy will become evil and steal Yuri

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The only reason I'm still here was to see the MC do op shit like we all expected him to do when the first fight scene came and what a pathetic fight scene it was even with him being op. As of this episode airing and his teams pathetic loss I'm barely hanging in on this series.
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Kirito destroyed them
Aug 12, 2015 11:04 PM

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I know the animation is going to be bad. But the fighting animation is just awful. The yellow circular blast just appear after the monster was killed instead of exploding. I was face palming all the time. And the music don't feel exciting at all. This is seriously terrible. And they lost the ranked matches without even showing how they have lost.
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This was a horrible episode! By far the worst! In that given situation, I didn't feel or see any sense of urgency coming from them. Those beetles were coming in, yet they were still taking their sweet time discussing. Seriously? And the action scene was poorly done.

Ugh, I thought Misora was the worst girl, but man, Yuri is almost to her level or probably even on par with her. She loves the MC, but she calls him a traitor and wont give him the benefit of the doubt to clear up the misunderstanding? B*tch much! I prefer Chloe by a mile than any of the girls.. Next would prolly be Lecty.
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The action scenes in this episode was poorly animated, with no sense of speed and movement ( The light novel of this battle scene had a better depiction of speed and fighting in aerial movements compared to this anime episode.

In the light novel, the fight with the irregular Chimera, known in the LN as “Chimera Antares”, was actually much longer and tactical, and it took place far away from the main battle lines near and around Mistogan. The light novel also had a much better depiction of the entire picture and situation of the battle, with all of the fireteams engaging in combat with the bugs a little bit farther from Mistogan, and only a small amount of bugs managed to get through the city.

Also, in the LN version of this battle, Misora actually managed to catch Kanata from falling by riding Kanata’s skyboard, since Misora had to use the skyboard because she hasn’t much MP to fly due to overusing Strike Blasters too much, and this anime didn’t show that.

In fact there was a scene in which the smaller bugs had Misora surrounded on all sides above, bottom, east, north, south, west flying all over the place in a tight circular movement around Misora, and Misora had to use her high stamina and speed to just fly straight above to the skies above, dodging the flying bugs with her speed, to break through the encirclement.

Also, in the LN version of this battle, Lecty actually managed to kill lots of the smaller bugs with her sword attack techniques, massacring lots of bugs with accurate slashes and precision at high speed flying and movements, probably averaging around killing at a rate of more than 50 bugs a minute, since she is not shy to fight against non-humans, so she was able to fight at her full potential. ), but I think that’s to be expected from Diomedia, which always had to produce animes with a low budget.

Anime producers should only make animes with medium or high budgets, otherwise they would be cheating their customers who expect better animation in fight scenes. Diomedia should’ve just stick to making slice-of-life and comedy/romance animes which doesn’t require animating complex fight scenes.

The only thing Diomedia did right about this battle scene in this episode was the 2 points I’m going to highlight below.
1. Rico’s accuracy in shooting at bugs from a long-range was just as the LN depicted. Rico is an expert in sniping, and her rate of fire is also high, as shown in this Episode 6. In the manga, we can learn that the speed of her magic bullet is 300 meters per second, so in this episode if she had to shoot at the bugs around 900 meters away, she had to calculate and predict the enemy bugs movements in advance. This is simple, since the smaller bugs fly much slower than most Sky Wizards, so for Sky Wizards that have to snipe at much faster flying Sky Wizards in ranking matches, the bugs would be a joke on a target practice, especially for someone skilled in sniping, like Rico.

The smaller bugs also seem to have a diameter size of around 75-90 cm, and Rico’s magic buller diameter is even much smaller, probably around 1 cm or less, so that makes scoring a succssful accurate shot much easier, since them bugs size are much bigger than a Sky Wizard that Rico has to shoot at in Rankings Match, since Sky Wizard are humans with magical powers and we know that humans average size is around 18-25 cm counting from the waist, possibly? (For comparison it is stated in the LN, that the Chimera that Kanata defeated, has a size of 100 meters in diameter, and the anime did show that size . By the way, 100 cm is 1 meter, so the Chimera that Kanata one-shotted was around more than 100 times much bigger in diameter compared to the smaller bugs, and this was also shown accurately in the anime.)

However, magic bullets in this world have one weakness compared to physical bullets in real life, for example, a 7.62 mm bullet of an AK-47, just to make an example here, is fired just like that, with a slightly higher speed than Kuusen’s Magic Bullets, also one other weakness of Magic Bullets compared to physical bullets is that unlike physical bullets, Magic Bullets are more “flashier” and “brighter”, with a bright glow asscociated with it, as the anime portrays accurately, so Sky Wizard at a range of more than 1 kms away can possibly read the movement of such Magic Bullets based on the bright glow, like as if avoiding tracer fire, and since MBs like Rico fires have speed of 300 meters per second (This speed figure was quoted from the Manga version of Kuusen, so this is not a figure that I’m making up), then skilled Sky Wizards ranked D and above can avoid it if they’re trained well enough.

Maybe there is a way for Rico to speed up her MBs by pouring more magical power or training more? Rico would be more effective in long-range sniping if her bullets could have higher speed of 600 meters per second, or more, at 900 meters per second. ) I wonder if there is a skill in Kuusen where those with high magic power reserves can erect a temporary “Magic Barrier” to defend and protect from long-range Magic Bullets, or not? The smaller non-Chimera bugs are also of lower intelligence, so as a whole, they wouln’t be able to have much awareness to dodge bullets from a far range, since their sensors probably can only detect and engage Sky Wizards automatically via their “Hive Mind” if within 50-100 meters range away from a Sky Wizard.

The only way bugs could act and move much intelligently is if there were a Chimera not too far away that can relay commands via the bugs Hive Mind to a group of bugs to move or attack in a certain manner ( so to compare it to our real life, a Chimera is kinda like an AWACS that can have a much better detection range of all enemies and can issue commands and directions and awareness to all allied figter jets in the engaged airspace) .

2. The actual combat techniques from the LN for the entire fireteam were portrayed well in this anime episode, with basic tactics that Kanata taught them, where Rico would give supporting fire to Misora, so that Misora can charge her Strike Blaster without being disturbed by enemy attack, and this is depicted well in this episode when Rico successfully exterminated one of the bugs that tried to assault Misora from behind. This is why Rico must stay in the position of Rear Guard, so that she can give supporting fire effectively.

Lecty was also portrayed well in her close-combat skills, though in the LN, Lecty was more overpowered in her combat against the bugs, managing to kill so many dozens of those bugs in lighting fast slashes in accurate flying movements (I was actually expecting the anime to show Lecty charging in and then we see from afar how many exploding bugs occurred in just 10 seconds, since anime can portray 10 seconds as being longer than that) But the explosion effects are done quite funnily, making some of them seen as yellow melons lol. Diomedia loves to screw up action scenes. If the animation team that did Bleach does this, we would have better action scenes.

Anyway, long post here, so sorry if some of you can’t stand it, by I’d just like to get these points off my chest, since I am a fan of good action scenes in anime, and this Kuusen gave me high expectations in the beginning, since previous action Harem anime scenes’ battle scenes dissapointed me with their mediocrity. Kuusen, that features aerial combats, delivers quite a promising combat setting, but I should have known that it won’t meet my expectations when I first read that Diomedia would be the one producing this. Next time, I will avoid any anime from LN adaptations produced by Diomedia like the plague. Low budget is not an excuse for poor animation.
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I really want to see Kanata do some badass fight scene with all his power.
But he's quite strange. He gets tired easily now.
Plus, what was that black source around him? Magic?
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Also, one thing that is canon in both the anime and original work, is that the Magical Bugs or Devil Beetles can only be affected and harmed by magical attacks ( even the close-combat Sky Wizard’s swords and melee weapons are imbued with the wielder’s magical power, that flows from their fingertips to the weapon itself.

The weapons are specially made to be able to absorb and link with the wielder’s magical powers, and in Mistogan are made by the Production Division, if I’m not mistaken ( There are multiple Divisions in Mistogan’s Academy, such as Sky Wizards Division, led by Rico’s big sister, Production Division, Medical Division etc. By the way, glasses guy, whose name is Real Nua, is a student from the Medical Division, so that’s why we don’t see him fighting against the Bugs, since he is not from the Sky Wizards Division).

So, yes, only magic-based attacks can harm Beetles, and that’s why they flew and made Sky Cities in the first place, since ordinary bullets, missiles and bombs can’t harm the Bugs. The ordinary bullets won’t be able to even scratch the smaller bugs “Magical Armor”, regardless of caliber or size, and missiles and bombs’ explosions would also not do anything to affect the bugs “Magical Armor”, so technically in Kuusen’s world, the only force that kill the bugs are attacks from the Sky Wizards.

Imagine how apocalyptic it would be, if, in our real-world Earth, such bugs appear, and all our militaries’ weapons won’t work against the army of bugs and Chimeras, and no Sky Wizards are here to help us kill em’ all. So, in the end all of our cities would be in ruins, devastated by the bugs attacks and raid, except that in the Kuusen world, they can flee to the skies and actually managed to give rise to a new generation of humans born with magical powers known as “Wizards” that can harm and kill the Bugs.

But I must say, Chloe’s magical attack in this Episode was quite devastating. She really is the Captain and member of the elite S128 fireteam for a reason. Add that with Kanata, that has some OP non-Magical based power, and the S128 is really the elite of all elites. I think that if S128 had to fight against any other fireteam among the A and B rank in matches, Chloe alone would be able to solo them all with her ridiculously overpowered magical blast and total MP reserves, without needing help from Lloyd (The blondie) and Yuri.

However if Chloe had to fight against the Chimera that Kanata one-shotted, I think it is pretty good to assume that she too could beat it, if she becomes serious and pours lots of magic in her blast attack against it ( I’m sure that Chloe hasn’t fought any enemy in a real battle where she has to use all her full strength in magic, since she like Kanata, is also very strong, at least in blast attacks.)
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Wow another great Episode, we finally saw Kanata "the beast" , NOT traitor in action, good to see the girls improving, we also see Yuri has feelings for Kanata, but i really think Chloe is the best partner for him,

..of course the girls will lose their first fight in the tourney, they need to have better coordination and chemistry if they want to stay in the tourney,,

..hmmm so my hunch is right that megane guy will become an enemy, lol

Overall Ep 8/10;)
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