 After four months without news, the Kickstarter project page for Under the Dog (UTD) announced the sci-fi anime will be changing producers. Hiroaki Yusa, along with his company Creative Intelligence Arts (CIA), have departed the project; production will now be managed by the animation studio, Kinema Citrus, and headed by Kouji Morimoto. While no specifics have been given on why CIA has left, Hiroaki Yusa said the change was made "in order to comply with certain requests from members of the UTD creative team, and to deliver an unhindered product to our backers." He further said, "We leave UTD in Jiro Ishii (original author), Muneki Ogasawara (CEO of Kinema Citrus) and Kouji Morimoto (replacement producer)'s capable hands and trust that they will carry on where we left off with such an excellent pedigree of artists to back them up every step of the way." The full press release can be found on the anime's Kickstarter page. In an interview with Crunchyroll in September, Hiroaki Yusa stated he and CIA had spearheaded the Kickstarter funding to avoid politics and allow for creative independence from production committees whom are often averse to risk. It was further written on UTD's Kickstarter page that they hoped the crowd-funded anime would be "a wake-up call to investors and production committees." Prior to UTD, CIA successfully crowd-funded a Japanese RPG titled Project Phoenix in September 2013; the game is set to release in June of this year. Source: Kickstarter Previous related topic: Kickstarter for Sci-Fi Anime 'Under the Dog' Launched |
myanimelistllcFeb 14, 2016 4:49 AM
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| I don't know if this will be good or bad, but I hope it is good. |
| "Did you really think I wouldn’t cheat just because I was already winning?" - Dread Emperor Terribilis II "I chose glory and success. The box did not contain what was written on the lid." - Sand dan Glokta |
| Well I hope all goes well because I really want to watch Under the Dog. |
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| I wonder why they backed off. |
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| So it's based on some creative differences? I hope this won't put a delay on the project with its debut. |
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| Kinema Citrus? Well I am worried now. Hopefully this won't affect the project much.. |
| I wonder if this will have a negative effect. I hope not but who knows. |
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| I can't stop laughing about this. "Yeah, we are asking the fans for money and stuff because we don't want to do what the evil producers want! We even had people offering us to do a 24 episode anime but the producers are soooo evil we just didn't want to do it." And now they go and do just that because it's "better" for the project. My sides. I guess they didn't lie though, they didn't do what the producers want, they just left the project, whatever happens to it isn't their doing or related to them. |
Paulo27Jan 22, 2015 7:44 AM
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| I doubt backers will have as much input into the project now, since CIA was spearheading the community/kickstarter side of things. Annoying. Paulo27 said: I can't stop laughing about this. "Yeah, we are asking the fans for money and stuff because we don't want to do what the evil producers want! We even had people offering us to do a 24 episode anime but the producers are soooo evil we just didn't want to do it." And now they go and do just that because it's "better" for the project. My sides. I think you completely misunderstood the article. Kinema Citrus was creating/animating the show from the start. CIA was handling the money, marketng, and community. All that changed is who's managing the funds and community. Your comment doesn't make much sense in light of this. |
TripleSRank said: What you're saying isn't wrong, you just don't understand what you are saying.I doubt backers will have as much input into the project now, since CIA was spearheading the community/kickstarter side of things. Annoying. Paulo27 said: I can't stop laughing about this. "Yeah, we are asking the fans for money and stuff because we don't want to do what the evil producers want! We even had people offering us to do a 24 episode anime but the producers are soooo evil we just didn't want to do it." And now they go and do just that because it's "better" for the project. My sides. I think you completely misunderstood the article. Kinema Citrus was creating/animating the show from the start. CIA was handling the money, marketng, and community. All that changed is who's managing the funds and community. Your comment doesn't make much sense in light of this. |
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| Kickstarter has proved to be slightly unreliable for anime but at least it will deliver unlike most Kickstarter Nightmares. |
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Paulo27 said: What you're saying isn't wrong, you just don't understand what you are saying. No, I don't understand what you're saying, even with your edit. CIA was the producer. It looks like you're saying "they (Kinema Citrus) didn't do what the producers (the nameless producers that offered a 2-course series) want, they (CIA?) just left the project, whatever happens to it isn't their (CIA's) doing or related to them." Pronoun reference, please, or clarify what you actually mean. |
TripleSRank said: By "producers" I mean backers, investors, publishers, my bad there, I guess.Paulo27 said: What you're saying isn't wrong, you just don't understand what you are saying. No, I don't understand what you're saying, even with your edit. CIA was the producer. It looks like you're saying "they (Kinema Citrus) didn't do what the producers (the nameless producers that offered a 2-course series) want, they (CIA?) just left the project, whatever happens to it isn't their (CIA's) doing or related to them." Pronoun reference, please, or clarify what you actually mean. Say CIA got the money for a 2 cour anime, they still couldn't do whatever they wanted because they'd have to do what the higher ups wanted to do, in this case they got the money themselves and don't have to rely on anyone else so they could do what they wanted to do, except they left and now someone else who doesn't have the same ideas as them is going to take over, so if someone from outside comes and is like "hey, let's make this into a 2 cour anime" you bet whoever is in charge now is going to jump at it, I argue CIA left because someone actually did just that and they got paid to leave but that's just me. |
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Paulo27 said: TripleSRank said: By "producers" I mean backers, investors, publishers, my bad there, I guess.No, I don't understand what you're saying, even with your edit. CIA was the producer. It looks like you're saying "they (Kinema Citrus) didn't do what the producers (the nameless producers that offered a 2-course series) want, they (CIA?) just left the project, whatever happens to it isn't their (CIA's) doing or related to them." Pronoun reference, please, or clarify what you actually mean. Say CIA got the money for a 2 cour anime, they still couldn't do whatever they wanted because they'd have to do what the higher ups wanted to do, in this case they got the money themselves and don't have to rely on anyone else so they could do what they wanted to do, except they left and now someone else who doesn't have the same ideas as them is going to take over, so if someone from outside comes and is like "hey, let's make this into a 2 cour anime" you bet whoever is in charge now is going to jump at it, I argue CIA left because someone actually did just that and they got paid to leave but that's just me. My point is that the original creators who had the idea for Under the Dog were at and still are with Kinema Citrus, not CIA. CIA is just a producer company that's good at crowdfunding (in this context), so Kinema Citrus chose CIA/Kickstarter over a traditional producer. CIA is the backers by proxy; they are not the people behind the project. (Perhaps you're not saying they are, but your posts make it look like that's what you think.) If Kinema Citrus wanted a 2-course and now have the means to make one, then I would argue it's still in line with whatever creative vision they had from the start. They aren't "selling out" to place themselves under someone else as your post seems to imply, but rather they are removing themselves from "under the backers", despite how little input crowdfunding demands in comparison to a traditional producer. That's why I find this annoying. They (Kinema Citrus) said, "give us money for our independence", then proceeded to cut off the very people who gave them said independence. Whatever they were going for with the project itself should be just as good as it would have been... Backers just won't get a say in anything now. So it's a mixed announcement. Kinema Citrus is definitely still getting to do what they want to do, but they're not being very respectful to the people that made it possible for that to happen. It sucks because CIA was passionate about the project and had good communication with the backers for awhile; my speculation is that they were trying to push some backer ideas into the project and Kinema Citrus got rid of them because of that. |
| At this point it's all speculation. But I'm very disappointed with the lack of communication prior to this re-arrangement. I, dimly, hope that they do not continue ignoring the backers. Business politics, their deliberate lack of transparency to gain a better bargaining position and to avoid communication mistakes, really irritate me. |
| Everytime some projects doing changing staff, the results of final version will not be the same as when it was first announced Well atleast the original creator still in there I hope this anime will ended just like Fumeto Ueda' The Last Guardian |
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| Meh, I never pay attention to producers, anyway. |
| This is going to end well... |
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| Received their email this morning. At first I thought they had cancelled the entire thing since the title started with "CIA Signing Off". Hopefully this move will really keep the project's autonomy and creative rights they strived for when they made the KS campaign. |
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| I just want to watch it cause mistychronexia raised money for it |
| Why are we still here? Just to suffer? Every night, I can feel my leg... and my arm... even my fingers. The body I've lost... the comrades I've lost... won't stop hurting... It's like they're all still there. You feel it, too, don't you? I'm gonna make them give back our past." |
| As long as i get to watch it, i'm not botherd |
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| Oh no : 0 Hope things go well for them |
| Hopefully this turns out good. |
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| .hack, Onegai teacher, Canaan, I think it'll still be good. :-) Positive thinking! |
| Morimoto? Awesome. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| Kinema Citrus have quite a good resume. So i,m gonna be positive |
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| wow...the PV animation..quite intriguing..looking forward to this |
| Kinema Citrus seems capable. Have to wonder if it will end up as a 1 or 2 cour series, but whatever is most appropriate for the subject material should be the running length. Is Kozaki Yusuke still involved? Will they be keeping his character designs? Changing his designs would be the biggest blow for me personally, considering everything we know about the project so far. If nothing else, we should have his beautiful character designs to offset the (possibly) disappointing product with. |
 Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. |
| Wonder if that means they are going to change how they end up implementing the project. Originally the kickstarter said it was originally going to be a 24 minute OVA of sorts, with the possibility of making it 2-3 OVAs in total or perhaps a movie trilogy. Perhaps they might decide to go straight to the hour long+ movie or to a TV series now. I wonder if all the backers are going to get dicked out of their rewards now. Wouldn't surprise me at this point. |
| I'm beginning to think that what could i possibly buy with that money which i invested. Well at the very least i learnt to not get greedy again. |
| Too much for the CIA to handle Get the FBI |
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