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To begin with, I would like to tell you guys about my confusion regarding Rei and Hisashi's relationship. My question is, did Rei and Hisashi have a sexual relationship? For instance, did they have sex or anything on that matter. I mean how long have they been dating before the apocalypse? Also, we know that Rei loves Takashi for a fact, but did she love him more than Hisashi. This has been bothering me for a few days now. I've read the manga twice and analysed every bit of detail the author gave us. At the moment I get the idea that Rei might have loved Hisashi more than Takashi. This is because in the beginning of the first chapter, after Hisashi's death, Rei was devastated and went to the extent of saying she wanted to become one of 'them' too because Hisashi died. Implying that she wanted to follow Hisashi to the death. I mean if she truly loves Takashi, she would not say that to him and rather would want to stay with him.

These are my thoughts regarding the relationship between the three characters. I know I haven't necessarily covered much about Takashi. The reason with that being is I want you guys to explore it for me and hopefully we come to the same conclusion. Also, please use necessary evidences from the manga to support your thesis, your statements need to be logical as well as comprehensible. I would also like you guys to answer my questions in my first paragraph. I will certainly appreciate it. Looking forward to your response! Thanks!
Aug 17, 2014 8:12 PM
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Things dont work that way :I
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Implying that she wanted to follow Hisashi to the death. I mean if she truly loves Takashi, she would not say that to him and rather would want to stay with him.

i wont even mention that having sex is completely unrelated to your question...

if i were to give an answer,(Naruto characters here on :I)Rei loves Hisashi as much as Sakura loves Sasuke,Rei loves Takashi as much as İno loves Sasuke...
Sep 7, 2014 12:34 PM
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Sad to burst your bubble, but Rei and Hisashi had been dating for many months, and she was no longer a virgin. While no explicit duration to their relationship was mentioned, at that point they loved eachother (past the liking stage). Additionally Rei was willing to stay beside the dead Hisashi and die as well since she didn't want to live without him. This clearly supports the consensus that they had been in a serious relationship for many months. This is partially what had Takashi so depressed at the beginning of Hotd (first scene in the anime when Saya tells him to forgot about Rei). Saya discusses his depression mentioning that it has been ongoing for a while, so this was clearly not the first time that Takshi was sulking about it (meaning the relationship duration had to be quite a while, certainly not recent). Rei also constantly brings up Hisashi even after his death, trying to evoke jealousy from Takashi because she knows he knows they were having sex. The Anime Producers though makes sure to cheer Takashi up by having him lose his virginity to Saeko. They knew the fans would not be happy with Takashi having to settle for used goods (Rei) for his first time.

There are some that speculate that maybe Rei was a virgin, but even that is a tenuous defense at best as seen here (source- http://forums.mangafox.me/threads/191970-im-i-the-only-one-who-likes-Rei-more-than-Saeko/page28) -

"While not known..judging by how it's pretty commonplace for couples to sleep together in Japan the longer they're a couple..it's actually likely that they have... So, it depends on how long Hisashi and Rei went out..

Why do you think those crazy otaku go a little stupid when they discover their "pure" heroines have had boyfriends prior to their current relationship with the protagonist? Because, it makes it quite likely that they're no longer virgins. Look what happened when the heroine in Kannagi was discovered to have had a previous boyfriend."

This partially accounts for the overwhelming support of Saeko vs Rei (even on Mal the favorite ratio is Saeko at 3360 vs Rei at 289, a whopping 12x discrepancy). Everyone knows that Rei broke the childhood promise and Rode Hisashi in the months preceding the start of Hotd.

Sorry to disappoint you my friend, but Hotd went out of its way to point out that other girls like Saya was a virgin (most recently with the condom thing in chapter 29). It did everything it could to make it obvious that Rei was an experienced veteran without explicitly showing it, since that would cause even more hatred for Rei and could have negatively impacted Hotd sales. As is the author gave a .1% opening for deluded fans to convince themselves that Rei was still "pure", but I'm afraid it's nothing but false hope.

Your own observations highlight the extreme likelihood that Rei went all in with Hisashi. As you mentioned she wanted to die with him. She also kept throwing around the accusation that Takashi had killed Hisashi, since she believed he was jealous that Hikashi had claimed her virginity first. This is exactly how a vengeful female mind works. This type of drama is what gets them off. Most Rei supporters (not just for her looks and fanservice, of which even i agree she is pretty sexy) are females that sympathize with Rei and see no problem with her relationship with Hisashi, but on the other hand they pounce on Takashi for his "indiscretions", namely sleeping with Saeko, expecting him to be available for Rei as her 2nd choice. This duplicity is worrisome and it's best to avoid these type of females. Note that for the first few episodes/chapters when Rei keeps bringing up Hisashi it's to evoke the primal jealousy in Takashi of him being a bystander while his best friend took his main love interest, both in body and mind. If it was just casual dating for a couple days with no serious mental/physical investment than it would make no sense for Rei to constantly bring it up, or for it to affect Takashi so much.
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Sep 14, 2014 1:51 AM
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Do people seriously care that much about a fictional character's fictional virginity?
Even being an otaku should have boundaries right?My reaction was same lol,there was a serious debate about this in another thread....
Sep 27, 2014 9:31 AM
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well i don't really care about Rei since she broke her promise with Takashi so i hope he marries saeko xD sorry if I'm not answering your question
Aug 5, 2015 3:33 PM
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If you ask me its an either or. Rei could be having sex with Hisashi or it hasn't progressed that far yet. From the looks of it Hisashi really has no idea about Rei's family. If they were already at that level of their relationship then he would of known. Hisashi felt very uncertain when Rei was alone with Takashi and caught up with them indicates as another hint their relationship hasn't progressed that far yet. Personality wise Rei is pretty stubborn and has alot of pride. Following Hisashi to death then quickly recovering is an indication of her stuborness and pride (against Takashi) at work but not what she truly feels. If she truly loved Hisashi and relationship progressed that far then she should of been a mental wreck. Her recovery is far too quick for a serious relationship indicating her relatioship probably only went as far as dating but maybe making out since she did cry . Another hint is she is suppose to be a very good student realistically it is highly unlikely she will get into go to that level so soon yet.
Aug 7, 2015 11:46 AM
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If she truly loved Hisashi and relationship progressed that far then she should of been a mental wreck. Her recovery is far too quick for a serious relationship indicating her relatioship probably only went as far as dating but maybe making out since she did cry

Losing your shit=Sex
Crying=Make out
Feeling sad=Kiss
Let me kick the corpse of that bitch=Only dating

Fool proof logic there mate...Ofc you wouldnt give a fuck if you didnt have sex with someone right?Because thats how human relationships and mentality works,right?

If anyone didnt understand i was being sarcastic...Considering the stupidity of this thread i felt inclined to drop this warning
Oct 10, 2015 11:53 PM
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LoneWizard said:

Losing your shit=Sex
Crying=Make out
Feeling sad=Kiss
Let me kick the corpse of that bitch=Only dating

Fool proof logic there mate...Ofc you wouldnt give a fuck if you didnt have sex with someone right?Because thats how human relationships and mentality works,right?

If anyone didnt understand i was being sarcastic...Considering the stupidity of this thread i felt inclined to drop this warning


Just finished the manga and came here hoping for something interesting about the series... I never expected to laugh so much. These people are just... hilarious. And you, sir, just got a new fan LOL.



And your Gandalf's picture... Best avatar ever. Please, don't change it.
Aug 20, 2016 6:05 AM
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Gal3riel said:
well i don't really care about Rei since she broke her promise with Takashi so i hope he marries saeko xD sorry if I'm not answering your question

I too agree with this shit...
Got something to live for, I know that I won't surrender,
A warrior of youth,
I'm taking over, a shot to the new world order
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DeadZeroSource said:
Gal3riel said:
well i don't really care about Rei since she broke her promise with Takashi so i hope he marries saeko xD sorry if I'm not answering your question

I too agree with this shit...

Me too. I really want Rei to die, 'cause she's fucking bitch. Jumping from one guy to other and then jumping back to the first guy. We want Saeko <3
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DeadZeroSource said:

I too agree with this shit...

Me too. I really want Rei to die, 'cause she's fucking bitch. Jumping from one guy to other and then jumping back to the first guy. We want Saeko <3

yep, amen bruh...
Got something to live for, I know that I won't surrender,
A warrior of youth,
I'm taking over, a shot to the new world order
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hardcase said:
Do people seriously care that much about a fictional character's fictional virginity?

From Story Point of view, They promised to get married, but Rei broke that promise, even though she knew Takashi still liked her (although He wasn't reciprocative), still She dated Hisashi............ YES IT DOES!!!! GOD DAMMIT SHE BROKE THE PINKY SWEAR, TTTTHHHHEEEE PPPPIIIINNNNKKKKYYYY SSSSWWWWEEEEAAAARRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOW COULD SHE!!!!

psst............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... I shouldn't be spoiling it for you, but she is.............................................................................................................................a................................................................................................S..............................
DOG TIMAD SADIST!! SSSSAAAADDDDIIIISSSSTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Aug 12, 2020 6:14 AM
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I think she’s virgin, she probably going out with him one day-two days before the zombie apocalypse because Takashi was sad in the first episode . You will be not sad if you know your girl is going out with someone as long as if it’s not just some days before . if it was several months before, Takashi will overcome that and accept that they are dating since he’s a friend of Hisashi and Rei and probably find Saeko to be with him . Rei father is a cop so Hisashi will know that if he know that Rei was no virgin anymore, his father will kill him so I think with his personality he would first ask her father before doing anything . Also she’s not a whore, her relation with Hisashi was not so well so they just slowly drifted apart . And as Jyshrork said it in the episode where Rei gets molested in gas station. The thug when molesting Rei say that you never touched her and that's true but that's not the point he never touched her but that also means no one did touch her not even hisashi . So basically she’s still virgin . Maybe I want her to lose her virginity with Takashi then he go out with Saeko . That’s it .
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But basically for some people she’s virgin and for some she’s not . No one will know since the author is dead
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Pink hair is best girl. Change my mind.
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Gal3riel said:
well i don't really care about Rei since she broke her promise with Takashi so i hope he marries saeko xD sorry if I'm not answering your question
+1,Saeko best girl.
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I think she only dated hisashi to make takashi jealous even at the roof top after hiasashi died she just asked all the things to provoke him she just wanted to tell him that he loved her I hate her character she just used hisashi to provoke takashi she really not loved him.
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Seijurou said:
Pink hair is best girl. Change my mind.
but she don't love the mc she love another fat boy
Jan 22, 2023 10:44 PM
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If I recall correctly, she says she would rather get bitten than have to kill someone like that, not to die just because he did.
Jan 22, 2023 10:49 PM
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Sad to burst your bubble, but Rei and Hisashi had been dating for many months, and she was no longer a virgin. While no explicit duration to their relationship was mentioned, at that point they loved eachother (past the liking stage). Additionally Rei was willing to stay beside the dead Hisashi and die as well since she didn't want to live without him. This clearly supports the consensus that they had been in a serious relationship for many months. This is partially what had Takashi so depressed at the beginning of Hotd (first scene in the anime when Saya tells him to forgot about Rei). Saya discusses his depression mentioning that it has been ongoing for a while, so this was clearly not the first time that Takshi was sulking about it (meaning the relationship duration had to be quite a while, certainly not recent). Rei also constantly brings up Hisashi even after his death, trying to evoke jealousy from Takashi because she knows he knows they were having sex. The Anime Producers though makes sure to cheer Takashi up by having him lose his virginity to Saeko. They knew the fans would not be happy with Takashi having to settle for used goods (Rei) for his first time.

There are some that speculate that maybe Rei was a virgin, but even that is a tenuous defense at best as seen here (source- http://forums.mangafox.me/threads/191970-im-i-the-only-one-who-likes-Rei-more-than-Saeko/page28) -

"While not known..judging by how it's pretty commonplace for couples to sleep together in Japan the longer they're a couple..it's actually likely that they have... So, it depends on how long Hisashi and Rei went out..

Why do you think those crazy otaku go a little stupid when they discover their "pure" heroines have had boyfriends prior to their current relationship with the protagonist? Because, it makes it quite likely that they're no longer virgins. Look what happened when the heroine in Kannagi was discovered to have had a previous boyfriend."

This partially accounts for the overwhelming support of Saeko vs Rei (even on Mal the favorite ratio is Saeko at 3360 vs Rei at 289, a whopping 12x discrepancy). Everyone knows that Rei broke the childhood promise and Rode Hisashi in the months preceding the start of Hotd.

Sorry to disappoint you my friend, but Hotd went out of its way to point out that other girls like Saya was a virgin (most recently with the condom thing in chapter 29). It did everything it could to make it obvious that Rei was an experienced veteran without explicitly showing it, since that would cause even more hatred for Rei and could have negatively impacted Hotd sales. As is the author gave a .1% opening for deluded fans to convince themselves that Rei was still "pure", but I'm afraid it's nothing but false hope.

Your own observations highlight the extreme likelihood that Rei went all in with Hisashi. As you mentioned she wanted to die with him. She also kept throwing around the accusation that Takashi had killed Hisashi, since she believed he was jealous that Hikashi had claimed her virginity first. This is exactly how a vengeful female mind works. This type of drama is what gets them off. Most Rei supporters (not just for her looks and fanservice, of which even i agree she is pretty sexy) are females that sympathize with Rei and see no problem with her relationship with Hisashi, but on the other hand they pounce on Takashi for his "indiscretions", namely sleeping with Saeko, expecting him to be available for Rei as her 2nd choice. This duplicity is worrisome and it's best to avoid these type of females. Note that for the first few episodes/chapters when Rei keeps bringing up Hisashi it's to evoke the primal jealousy in Takashi of him being a bystander while his best friend took his main love interest, both in body and mind. If it was just casual dating for a couple days with no serious mental/physical investment than it would make no sense for Rei to constantly bring it up, or for it to affect Takashi so much.
You presented literally no facts, barely any conjecture and a whole lot of blind opinion, also she says she'd rather get bit than have to kill someone like that, not that she wanted to die with him.
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Sad to burst your bubble, but Rei and Hisashi had been dating for many months, and she was no longer a virgin. While no explicit duration to their relationship was mentioned, at that point they loved eachother (past the liking stage). Additionally Rei was willing to stay beside the dead Hisashi and die as well since she didn't want to live without him. This clearly supports the consensus that they had been in a serious relationship for many months. This is partially what had Takashi so depressed at the beginning of Hotd (first scene in the anime when Saya tells him to forgot about Rei). Saya discusses his depression mentioning that it has been ongoing for a while, so this was clearly not the first time that Takshi was sulking about it (meaning the relationship duration had to be quite a while, certainly not recent). Rei also constantly brings up Hisashi even after his death, trying to evoke jealousy from Takashi because she knows he knows they were having sex. The Anime Producers though makes sure to cheer Takashi up by having him lose his virginity to Saeko. They knew the fans would not be happy with Takashi having to settle for used goods (Rei) for his first time.

There are some that speculate that maybe Rei was a virgin, but even that is a tenuous defense at best as seen here (source- http://forums.mangafox.me/threads/191970-im-i-the-only-one-who-likes-Rei-more-than-Saeko/page28) -

"While not known..judging by how it's pretty commonplace for couples to sleep together in Japan the longer they're a couple..it's actually likely that they have... So, it depends on how long Hisashi and Rei went out..

Why do you think those crazy otaku go a little stupid when they discover their "pure" heroines have had boyfriends prior to their current relationship with the protagonist? Because, it makes it quite likely that they're no longer virgins. Look what happened when the heroine in Kannagi was discovered to have had a previous boyfriend."

This partially accounts for the overwhelming support of Saeko vs Rei (even on Mal the favorite ratio is Saeko at 3360 vs Rei at 289, a whopping 12x discrepancy). Everyone knows that Rei broke the childhood promise and Rode Hisashi in the months preceding the start of Hotd.

Sorry to disappoint you my friend, but Hotd went out of its way to point out that other girls like Saya was a virgin (most recently with the condom thing in chapter 29). It did everything it could to make it obvious that Rei was an experienced veteran without explicitly showing it, since that would cause even more hatred for Rei and could have negatively impacted Hotd sales. As is the author gave a .1% opening for deluded fans to convince themselves that Rei was still "pure", but I'm afraid it's nothing but false hope.

Your own observations highlight the extreme likelihood that Rei went all in with Hisashi. As you mentioned she wanted to die with him. She also kept throwing around the accusation that Takashi had killed Hisashi, since she believed he was jealous that Hikashi had claimed her virginity first. This is exactly how a vengeful female mind works. This type of drama is what gets them off. Most Rei supporters (not just for her looks and fanservice, of which even i agree she is pretty sexy) are females that sympathize with Rei and see no problem with her relationship with Hisashi, but on the other hand they pounce on Takashi for his "indiscretions", namely sleeping with Saeko, expecting him to be available for Rei as her 2nd choice. This duplicity is worrisome and it's best to avoid these type of females. Note that for the first few episodes/chapters when Rei keeps bringing up Hisashi it's to evoke the primal jealousy in Takashi of him being a bystander while his best friend took his main love interest, both in body and mind. If it was just casual dating for a couple days with no serious mental/physical investment than it would make no sense for Rei to constantly bring it up, or for it to affect Takashi so much.
You presented literally no facts, barely any conjecture and a whole lot of blind opinion, also she says she'd rather get bit than have to kill someone like that, not that she wanted to die with him.
@Litheran well in japan it is normal if you have a relationship for months then you are not a vergin it is rare to have not done anything

i'll give you few points

1.if we believe what rei said that she started going out with hisashi after her retake of grade waa announced then in japan the end of year evaluation happens in march and new semester begins in april so she could've known she failed a grade before march , unless she is lying about her dating time with hisashi they started from march .

2. she couldn't have known her grades before march and takagi mentioned this in the stair case that their first semester just started which is april and that means the semester started few weeks ago, and they couldn't have gone that far in a month well they could have for all we know ,

3. the scene where takashi discovered rei and hiashis relationship , takshi asked rei to spent time with him but she refuses, and went to hisashi and they didnt go to a date a date cant be few hours and after school , and rei didnt have any thing on her hand such as suff toys or anything means they didn't go to a arcade either means they went ot motels as you could see how intimate she was with him and the feeling of guilt on her eyes fater seeing takashi , and they were on the different side of the road and were comming back from somewhere which cant be anything but motel , i still want to believe its not true but she lost it .

4.she said in ep 1 that takshi was clueless so she gave up means she started dating hisahsi before her grades , and when the intimate scene happened with takashi she was so relaxed like she knows it all only possible if you are experienced, and she also was very serious as to die with hisashi and saying that takashi was jealous of him and the way she said it really says she had done it with him .

rei not only hid that cat but did alm that whil knwoing full well tahat takshi liked her , even hisashi knew that , they just betrayed him and rei is manipulating him now to be saved , and i also agre withthis guy when he said that rei knows takashi is aware of her ans hisashis sexual intimacy and thats why she brings it up often , and if you ask why she said all those thigns to takshi that she still liked him and stuffs well its cuz she doesnt wanna loose him if he stop protecting her she will die , and didn't you see how abnormally she clings to takashi , who knows she might be facking it all and want to get revenge on takashi for killing hisashi thats why she is faking it all. she is just the worst unless theres any confirmation or any solid proof she is just a manipulative bitch who will leve takashi if hisashi comes back .

also theres an implication that i think the author implied in the bath scene rei and sijuka was bathing together who was experienced while takagi and saeko was bathing together who were in experienced, there other clues but i wont explain them cuz i'm frustrated,i typed the same message 3 times and it got undone everytime and now this is my fourth try .

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but she don't love the mc she love another fat boy
@OTAKUSENSEI16012 hirano is cool guy he may be fat and ugly and wear glasses but he is a man and really cool , their groupe is dead without him.

tho takagi is definitely amazing better than rei
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@Litheran well in japan it is normal if you have a relationship for months then you are not a vergin it is rare to have not done anything

i'll give you few points

1.if we believe what rei said that she started going out with hisashi after her retake of grade waa announced then in japan the end of year evaluation happens in march and new semester begins in april so she could've known she failed a grade before march , unless she is lying about her dating time with hisashi they started from march .

2. she couldn't have known her grades before march and takagi mentioned this in the stair case that their first semester just started which is april and that means the semester started few weeks ago, and they couldn't have gone that far in a month well they could have for all we know ,

3. the scene where takashi discovered rei and hiashis relationship , takshi asked rei to spent time with him but she refuses, and went to hisashi and they didnt go to a date a date cant be few hours and after school , and rei didnt have any thing on her hand such as suff toys or anything means they didn't go to a arcade either means they went ot motels as you could see how intimate she was with him and the feeling of guilt on her eyes fater seeing takashi , and they were on the different side of the road and were comming back from somewhere which cant be anything but motel , i still want to believe its not true but she lost it .

4.she said in ep 1 that takshi was clueless so she gave up means she started dating hisahsi before her grades , and when the intimate scene happened with takashi she was so relaxed like she knows it all only possible if you are experienced, and she also was very serious as to die with hisashi and saying that takashi was jealous of him and the way she said it really says she had done it with him .

rei not only hid that cat but did alm that whil knwoing full well tahat takshi liked her , even hisashi knew that , they just betrayed him and rei is manipulating him now to be saved , and i also agre withthis guy when he said that rei knows takashi is aware of her ans hisashis sexual intimacy and thats why she brings it up often , and if you ask why she said all those thigns to takshi that she still liked him and stuffs well its cuz she doesnt wanna loose him if he stop protecting her she will die , and didn't you see how abnormally she clings to takashi , who knows she might be facking it all and want to get revenge on takashi for killing hisashi thats why she is faking it all. she is just the worst unless theres any confirmation or any solid proof she is just a manipulative bitch who will leve takashi if hisashi comes back .

also theres an implication that i think the author implied in the bath scene rei and sijuka was bathing together who was experienced while takagi and saeko was bathing together who were in experienced, there other clues but i wont explain them cuz i'm frustrated,i typed the same message 3 times and it got undone everytime and now this is my fourth try .

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