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Jun 25, 2014 2:28 AM
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The game is on~! It's team battle now with Akashi awakens.
Jun 25, 2014 3:53 AM
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I still remember the day where the zone is only possible for the chosen one. When did it become like this?
I only read the raws so the dialogue might change things a little bit.
Jun 25, 2014 5:17 AM
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I still remember the day where the zone is only possible for the chosen one. When did it become like this?
I only read the raws so the dialogue might change things a little bit.



today the zone hast lost any meaning it ever had.
ssj3 zone is coming and it will be ridiculous powerful.

what a bullshit power tho..free zone for everyone..yay! whats next?
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Jun 25, 2014 5:33 AM
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GOOSEBUMPS!!!!!!!!!!

I AM LITERALLY SWEATING HERE, EVEN I HAVE JUST TAKEN MY SHOWER!!!

HOLY SHIT!!!

NOW I REALLY HAVE NO IDEA WHATS GONNA HAPPEN!!!

AGAIN, GOOSEBUMPS!!!
Jun 25, 2014 6:11 AM
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Rakuzan's comeback.. all the way!!!
Akashi's True self .. Awaken!!!
I really like how they play their basketball now ..
Well.. ALL MEMBERS OF RAKUZAN IS ON THE ZONE !!! ..
now.. what ... What will Seirin do now!!? .. but I like the atmosphere .. It keeps getting me excited !!
Some Interesting chapters awaits!!!
Pretty great chapter !!!
NOTE : I heard some rumors .. that his second ability is ... to enter willingly.. himself and his teammates ... INTO THE ZONE!!!
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Every now and then, I read about someone joking about the entire Seirin team going into the zone. Guess what, Fujimaki thanks you for your brilliant idea. So if you want to continue joking about Kuroko turning the entire Seirin team invisible or Kagami flying like Sanji, be careful for what you wish for.
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#zoneforeveryone
Jun 25, 2014 7:20 AM
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Kerozinn said:
#zoneforeveryone

Zone Overflow.
Jun 25, 2014 7:30 AM
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Kerozinn said:
#zoneforeveryone

Zone Overflow.


hrhr ;)
Jun 25, 2014 7:38 AM

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Oh my God this chapter was hilarious! All of Rakuzan are in the zone? Bwahahahahahaha! I can't wait for the translations to come out. And Fujimaki... I hope you've got a reasonable ending planned for the end of this match, because since chapter 265, I went from thinking Seirin had a chance of victory to no chance at all. In all seriousness, I don't see Kuroko possessing Zone Overflow since he's just recently revealed yet another trump card (Quasi-Emperor Eye). I'm interested to find out who or what Seirin's saviour will be.

Will Tsuchida finally have his five panels of fame?
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Sooo Akashi's 2nd ability is to somehow make people go to the zone? If that's the case then this is the most OP skill in manga.
Jun 25, 2014 9:48 AM

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Zone, zone, free zone, zone for everybody. Achieve one zone and we'll give you the other 4 completely free of charge!

Do you guys remember that time when the zone was actually cool? I mean, it can be because of Akashi's second eye ability, but this is ridiculous. At this pace even the guy who sells hot-dogs will achieve the goddamn 「ZONE」in no time.
Jun 25, 2014 9:56 AM

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Sooo Akashi's 2nd ability is to somehow make people go to the zone? If that's the case then this is the most OP skill in manga.


God that's so fkin true, wtf is going on I thought Akashi was like Midorima , now playing with team mates at full power BUT NO , FULL ZONE WTFFFF ???!!
Jun 25, 2014 12:15 PM

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Definitely makes you wonder how this will all pan out. It took pretty much everything they had for the Seiren members to beat their Rakuzan counterparts the first time around, but now they all have Zone? Like Noonja said, hopefully the ending is actually reasonable. For Seiren to win now, we'd need something even more OP than Akashi's Zone-enabling ability. x_x

It's always felt like Seiren has to win since Kiyoshi's put everything on the line, and half the supporting characters are graduating this year which doesn't leave much room for doing this all over again for another chance to win. And at the same time, with all the Rakuzan hype, it doesn't seem right for them to lose either.
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After finishing the chapter I was like: "what the hell is this?!". Not so long ago only few people were able to enter the zone - so now suddenly it's not that hard and ANYONE can do it?! I'm VERY disappointed and displeased.

Also - I haven't even seen Midorima entering the zone. For quite some time I got this feeling that this is how the manga will end - couple months after winning the Winter Cup Seirin will play against Shutoku and just when they are about to begin the match and jump for the ball, Midorima and Kagami look at eachother, with the first one being in the zone. Just an idea I had...
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Most of the comments are the same- complaining that the zone is now just another ability anyone can have, and while I could argue that Rakuzan IS the strongest High School Team in Japan, and that entering the Zone only enhances one's already existing skills and mental focus (eg. Kagami's 'Super' Jumps and Aomine's already ridiculous agility).

But one thing stood out. Mayuzumi.

Seriously, what is Zone Mayuzumi supposed to do? Pass the ball faster? Sorry I had to post this, but it just made me facepalm.
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Jun 25, 2014 6:05 PM

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Seriously, what is Zone Mayuzumi supposed to do? Pass the ball faster? Sorry I had to post this, but it just made me facepalm.


To be invisible for the rest of the game!

So basically, original Akashi's hidden power is to support his teammates while unlocking their potential to the fullest? That actually makes sense in a way, since he was the one who discovered the potential in Kuroko while shaping the rest of GoM members.

But seriously, for all 4 going into the Zone? That's just pushing it. And if Seirin wins this game.... *facepalm*
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I blame kagami for this zone bs. He's the one that overused it to the point that it just became ridiculous. It was fine to do it vs Aomine since that was the first time we had all seen and and therefore we were excited. However when it became a tool to use whenever kagami felt like it(he went from newb at zone to having a P.H.D in it in like a few days/a week or two or however long the winter cup is) then it just became another nakama power. Also why are people saying that just "anyone" can enter it? This is rakuzan, the 4(3?) time reigning champion of the winter cup so it's not that farfetch to say that they could achieve it(althought mayuzumi in the zone is a bit too much) since they got 3 CG's who definitely have some talent.
Also since there's only 3 minutes left im somewhat glad that now no one can justify kagami being in the zone for so long since he was very active for the majority of the 4th quarter. I was appalled that kagami was able to not only go over the zone time limit, but incorporate his AI in it when Aomine, who has more knowledge of the zone couldn't.
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I blame kagami for this zone bs. He's the one that overused it to the point that it just became ridiculous. It was fine to do it vs Aomine since that was the first time we had all seen and and therefore we were excited. However when it became a tool to use whenever kagami felt like it(he went from newb at zone to having a P.H.D in it in like a few days/a week or two or however long the winter cup is) then it just became another nakama power. Also why are people saying that just "anyone" can enter it? This is rakuzan, the 4(3?) time reigning champion of the winter cup so it's not that farfetch to say that they could achieve it(althought mayuzumi in the zone is a bit too much) since they got 3 CG's who definitely have some talent.
Also since there's only 3 minutes left im somewhat glad that now no one can justify kagami being in the zone for so long since he was very active for the majority of the 4th quarter. I was appalled that kagami was able to not only go over the zone time limit, but incorporate his AI in it when Aomine, who has more knowledge of the zone couldn't.


Do you remember Kagami brother? He was at the level of a CG and he wasn't able to go to the zone, because he didn't had the talent!
Jun 25, 2014 11:09 PM

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I actually liked most part of this chapter. Akashi knitted the pieces of his team together and made it works as it should be. It was nice until.....the last panel.....
That bit was freaking ridiculous!!
Now tell me, how in the world Seirin would win the freaking match?!!


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I blame kagami for this zone bs. He's the one that overused it to the point that it just became ridiculous. It was fine to do it vs Aomine since that was the first time we had all seen and and therefore we were excited. However when it became a tool to use whenever kagami felt like it(he went from newb at zone to having a P.H.D in it in like a few days/a week or two or however long the winter cup is) then it just became another nakama power.


Very true.

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Also why are people saying that just "anyone" can enter it? This is rakuzan, the 4(3?) time reigning champion of the winter cup so it's not that farfetch to say that they could achieve it(althought mayuzumi in the zone is a bit too much) since they got 3 CG's who definitely have some talent.


EVEN for the Generation of Miracles to enter the zone was something special. But for the entire Rakuzan to enter it is plain ridiculous.

Also - from what I remember, to enter the zone you need to:
a.) have a really outstanding talent and
b.) love basketball from the bottom of you heart
So why is Mayuzumi is the zone? Cause judging from his backstory it certainly doesn't look like he likes this sport all that much.
Jun 26, 2014 2:56 AM

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Also - from what I remember, to enter the zone you need to:
a.) have a really outstanding talent and
b.) love basketball from the bottom of you heart
So why is Mayuzumi is the zone? Cause judging from his backstory it certainly doesn't look like he likes this sport all that much.


Because this is Akahi's powuuuhhh his powuuuuhh is to make people love basketball so damn much when they play with Akashiiii *flip table*

But seriously, I think Akashi's change is the reason why the Rakuzan members, including Mayuzumi (? How?), enjoy the game to its fullest. I think another Zone requirement is to
c) enjoy basketball,
if I remember correctly, and judging by the members' reactions when Akashi pass to them, they start to have this sense of unity in the team that makes them enjoy basketball more. I think I saw a panel where the black-haired dude pat Mayuzumi's back? So I guess he's happy because he's included in the team
Jun 26, 2014 3:11 AM

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But seriously, I think Akashi's change is the reason why the Rakuzan members, including Mayuzumi (? How?), enjoy the game to its fullest. I think another Zone requirement is to
c) enjoy basketball


I meanwhile think that it is not necessarily related to enjoying basketball and Akashi's true power is just to bring out the full potential of his teammates. Even in middle school he knew exactly what everyone was capable of.
Jun 26, 2014 8:52 AM

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Midgardsorm said:
I meanwhile think that it is not necessarily related to enjoying basketball and Akashi's true power is just to bring out the full potential of his teammates. Even in middle school he knew exactly what everyone was capable of.


Sometimes I think like this also, but then I remember Aomine's case where he went into the zone because he finally has fun playing basketball

The only option for Seirin to win is by Kuroko's help... While he's in DA ZONE
Jun 26, 2014 11:25 AM

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I remember Aomine's case where he went into the zone because he finally has fun playing basketball


I don't think that's the case. It is actually implied that Aomine entered the zone consciously - in the manga it is perhaps more obvious than in the anime and even Akashi mentions it at one point. Also - as Aomine said himself - everyone has a different trigger which enables him to enter the zone and by knowing what the trigger is you are able to enter it consciously. In Aomine's case it might have been the joy of playing basketball, with Kagami it was the urge to fight for his team, and Akashi needed to feel that his teammates are useless.
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On the contrary to most people's reaction to all Rakuzan members entering the zone, I actually think its awesome for the real Akashi's special power. It makes perfect sense.

He is the captain, the leader, the coordinator, the master of the orchestra that is rakuzan and former generation of miracles.

The real Akashi is always calm and seems to be in control of things so its cool that for a short period, he can make himself and his teammates to be in the zone.

Seirin would have to come up with something that even trumps that if they want to win this game. Maybe someone is gonna open the second door?
Jun 27, 2014 4:06 AM

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I don't think that's the case. It is actually implied that Aomine entered the zone consciously - in the manga it is perhaps more obvious than in the anime and even Akashi mentions it at one point. Also - as Aomine said himself - everyone has a different trigger which enables him to enter the zone and by knowing what the trigger is you are able to enter it consciously. In Aomine's case it might have been the joy of playing basketball, with Kagami it was the urge to fight for his team, and Akashi needed to feel that his teammates are useless.


Yes him finding joy in basketball again because he's not bored with basketball anymore, as someone was able to beat him just like what Kuroko said.

Though yeah, people have different triggers to do so, which gives more reason for the Rakuzan members to enter the zone. Though I'm not quite sure what their triggers are, but Akashi treating them better is probably one of those triggers.
Jun 27, 2014 8:05 AM

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About the zone thing, i am all up for it since it is the CG afterall. But mayuzumi?

If Mayuzumi is able to go into the zone then Himuro should definitely be able to.

Apparently Himuro isnt talented enough.
Jun 27, 2014 5:34 PM

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Well... that was really sudden.
I miss those days where the zone was something special..
Please just let Rakuzan win before it gets more ridiculous. x_x
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About the zone thing, i am all up for it since it is the CG afterall. But mayuzumi?

If Mayuzumi is able to go into the zone then Himuro should definitely be able to.

Apparently Himuro isnt talented enough.


Well, based on everyone's speculations, I'm going to speculate some more.

Let's say there's a 4th requirement to enter the zone, and this applies only if you don't have the talent: You need (good) Akashi on your team. I'd say this is the case because until now, we haven't seen any other Uncrowned Generals enter the zone. And seriously, who among them loves basketball more than Kiyoshi? Why hasn't he been able to enter the Zone? The only difference I see between Seirin and Rakuzan is that Rakuzan has Akashi- the strongest individual player in the Winter Cup, who catalyses his teammates potential (when he's in a good mood).

Meanwhile Seirin has the strongest duo in the Winter Cup (Kuroko and Kagami), and while Kuroko is effective when he cooperates with his other teammates, he is most effective when playing with Kagami (Emperor Eye Plan). I actually think this is a double edged sword, since their combo is unbelievably strong, but Kuroko isn't that strong when he's paired with a weaker player (The stronger the light, the darker the shadow etc).

Also, if just receiving spectacular passes is what caused Rakuzan to enter the Zone, Kuroko should also be able to achieve the same effect with Seirin. I mean, at heart, he's a pass specialist for Jebus's sake.

Now I've got a few ideas as to how Seirin could win this, and probably none of them are right, but its fun to come up with these:

1- Kuroko unlocks a second MAIN ability. since his original ability was suggested to him by Akashi, it probably is his strongest style, but heck this is Kuroko we're talking about.

2- Kuroko achieves the Akashi effect i.e. Zone Overflow i.e. entire Seirin goes into the Zone.

3- Kagami enters Zone II

Or it could be a combination of them. (Looks pointedly at Fujimaki) Oi. You'd better have a plan for what you're writing, bro.
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I could understand Zone for like prodigies... but all of Rakuzan? Seriously. This has just become more ridiculous than Overflow.

The only way to bring back this match back to square one is if we see the Zone within the Zone. There is just no way Seirin can win... now that everyone in Rakuzan is in the Zone...

or beat it with something even more ridiculous, like Zone Overflow. Hahaha.
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This is a freaking Zone parade now.

Akashi the real deal? They should of known that from by now. Seirin is in deep shit :S I'm pretty curious to see what happens from here.
Jun 27, 2014 11:16 PM

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Can't wait to see how utterly ridiculous Zone lvl 2 is.

Battle of power levels now!
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Let's start the zone party , yay.This got pretty intense.

Kuroko and Kagami will have to step it up a notch too if they want to keep up.Actually the whole Seririn will have to step it up. Looking forward to what's gonna happen next.
Jun 28, 2014 12:07 AM

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And when i thought that we will play basketball we start the super powers battle again...`-` yep no more free wifi now is zone for free.

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the zone is really not that extraordinary, even NBA players gets into the zone once in a while, but a whole team going into the zone is something else lol, time for Kagami to enter Zone 2 or else its a loss for Seirin
Jun 28, 2014 1:00 AM

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Blasphemy. What's next, Kuroko invents a new Zone 3 and enters it to win the match?
Jun 28, 2014 5:04 AM

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I really didn't like what it looked like at the end of the last chapter, but the direction he's going with is better than expected!

Also, am I the only one who somehow wants Seirin to loose?

I want Kiyoshi to win with them, but if they win that's pretty much the end of the series. This is the only series that I think has really pulled off being a long running manga without feeling repetitive or lazy, I really don't want it to end!
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Jun 28, 2014 5:08 AM

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I could understand Zone for like prodigies... but all of Rakuzan? Seriously. This has just become more ridiculous than Overflow.

The only way to bring back this match back to square one is if we see the Zone within the Zone. There is just no way Seirin can win... now that everyone in Rakuzan is in the Zone...

or beat it with something even more ridiculous, like Zone Overflow. Hahaha.


I completely agree! I can only hope that they don't do something even more ridiculous like putting everyone in Seirin in the zone, ot having the double zone thing be godlike. In regular shonen fashion Seirin will pull something divine and win at the last second, but I seriously for once want something more realistic than that.
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Lol, this series was so good before now it just keeps getting shittier every chapter. I hope the author ends the manga soon. Is this even selling anymore with this much bullshit? Oh god, I used to love this series.
Jun 28, 2014 5:35 AM

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Utterly ridiculous. I just hope you have a reasonable explanation for this, Fujimaki.
Jun 28, 2014 6:42 AM

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Jun 28, 2014 7:36 AM
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You got a free zone! You got a Free Zone!! Everyone gets a fucking FREE ZONE! XD
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Jun 28, 2014 7:39 AM

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that's what floor general do to his team..making plays etc. but yeeehh this is something ridiculous to see..i mean that last page killed my vibe.

and the only thing i can think of is that kagami will go to the next level of the zone
(wouldn't make sense since he's already exhausted - being in the zone for 2 times but that's not my call to make)

Kuroko - go to the zone..it's like the only reason i'm still reading this.
Jun 28, 2014 7:55 AM

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Chapter was a disappointment.
Jun 28, 2014 8:07 AM

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The only way i see seirin winning is by all of them goin into the zone
but at this point is gonna be impossible but who knows akashi came back and gave
all his teammates the zone maybe kuroko will give seirin the zone aswell XD
Jun 28, 2014 8:31 AM

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Utterly ridiculous. I just hope you have a reasonable explanation for this, Fujimaki.

He didnt have any reasonable explanation for anything during this final. Why would he have now? :D

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Jun 28, 2014 8:54 AM

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I give up with this manga. What's next, they all get emperor eye? It's getting ridiculous now.
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Can't wait to see how utterly ridiculous Zone lvl 2 is.


Probably something like Instant Transmission slam dunk.
Jun 28, 2014 9:20 AM

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Seirin is going to pull a copout I can feelz it. I'm betting on Rakuzan to win though.
Jun 28, 2014 9:22 AM

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Well, this is ridiculously stupid.
Wonder how Seirin will tackle this
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