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Jul 13, 2009 8:03 PM

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It's good to see another show that really brings out SHAFT's quality again. I'll be watching this eagerly.
Jul 13, 2009 8:17 PM

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That was quite interesting a guess and I'm glad to see that she has changed with her memories back.
Jul 13, 2009 8:19 PM

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I liked it much better then the first episode ><
Jul 13, 2009 8:24 PM

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J3T said:
Amazing episode, the character interaction is just great, the animation continues to be jaw dropping and the idea of a crab taking away the painful feelings along with burdens was marvelous. Also, who could have thought that staplers would be so freaking awesome, and that fanservice was cool (especially that slap in the a$$... *drools*). Can't wait for more.


my thoughts exactly.
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Jul 13, 2009 8:38 PM

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I liked the op a lot.
Good episode, I also like the whole weight concept.
Jul 13, 2009 8:47 PM

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Oh I quite liked the OP. The music in this episode where they were on the 3rd floor creeped me out. lol.
So wait, will Araragi be able to get rid of the extra 45kg?
Plus, his sisters were cute.
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Jul 13, 2009 9:02 PM

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awesome stapling OP
awesome stapling episode

senjougahara is actually pretty cute. <3
and araragi's sisters are also cute.

the episode was pretty good too. loved the comedy in it.
Jul 13, 2009 9:40 PM

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Great episode, but who else was reminded heavily of Blair and Soul when Senjougahara stepped out of the shower and began harrasing Araragi?
Jul 13, 2009 9:41 PM

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Er... anyone here get freaked out with Araragi's weird faces coming in different flavors in this ep? He always makes me expected him to go nuts at any moment over Hitagi's "OVER 90 cm!!!" butt & created "Hitagi RAEP part 2" . What a freak :o



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Jul 13, 2009 9:42 PM

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the animation was a bit over the top. not to mention too ordinary by their standards. i should not have to see too much of another anime into a new one. they could make it their "own" without really making it too similar to what they have done or always do.

as far as story though it played out well. her character changed a bit too much though. i guess that's what you become when u can feel again.
Jul 13, 2009 9:53 PM

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I wasn't expecting that much fanservice but I liked it lol. It was as enjoyable as the first episode. Now that Hitagi's situation has been resolved I'm curious to see where the story goes from here.
Jul 13, 2009 11:25 PM

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The fanservice was actually pretty good. Understand a lot more now with this episode. The show is great but also seems a little weird at times.
Jul 13, 2009 11:27 PM

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noteDhero said:
Not much else to say, it feels like Mononoke, SZS, and Mushishi had a baby.


That's exactly what I was thinking.

Ooshino = Ginko :p

For some reason, I have a feeling that the opening will be different in the next episode.

Jul 13, 2009 11:27 PM

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Saw it on /a/. lol.
Jul 13, 2009 11:40 PM

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I loved the episode but I have to say I'm going to be disappointed if we completely lose her sharp tongue and she turns all nice. That was the highlight for me. How she was so dangerous while also a complete smart-ass.
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Jul 14, 2009 12:28 AM

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fan service + word play + dramatic parts + good animation = WIN.. now i have no more doubts about continuing this series..
Jul 14, 2009 1:36 AM
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mcjazzman32 said:
I loved the episode but I have to say I'm going to be disappointed if we completely lose her sharp tongue and she turns all nice. That was the highlight for me. How she was so dangerous while also a complete smart-ass.


I don't think we've seen the last of that Senjougahara.

Anyway great episode, I like how they dug deep into Senjougahara's past and resolved her problems, but I thought that would have taken up the whole series. Well it'll be interesting to see how the story continues from here and man did Araragi gain some weight XD.
Jul 14, 2009 1:49 AM

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PsychFreak said:
mcjazzman32 said:
I loved the episode but I have to say I'm going to be disappointed if we completely lose her sharp tongue and she turns all nice. That was the highlight for me. How she was so dangerous while also a complete smart-ass.


I don't think we've seen the last of that Senjougahara.

Anyway great episode, I like how they dug deep into Senjougahara's past and resolved her problems, but I thought that would have taken up the whole series. Well it'll be interesting to see how the story continues from here and man did Araragi gain some weight XD.


I don't think we've seen the last of her either. I think that weight was added to him for reason to be later revealed, which will result in the return of Senjougahara.
Jul 14, 2009 2:09 AM

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Awesome episode, seeing into her past, discovering what ailed her, interaction between 2 MC's, no action is needed for this anime to be good. Haven't seen something that I felt was this original and fun to watch since Higashi no eden (even though that wasn't that long ago xD)
Jul 14, 2009 2:22 AM
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i can say with 100% certainty that this is the best anime for the summer even after only seeing 2 episodes.

5/5.

i can't wait to see where this anime goes. i know it doesn't sound too realistic, but i hope there's some romance :3
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Jul 14, 2009 3:53 AM

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I really enjoyed this episode, having been explained further about the mystery of Senjogahara's missing weight being her "heavy" feelings towards the childhood incident. They really delved into Senjogahara's mind and I got to understand her much better.
I also liked the fact that they still managed to keep the mood light, despite the depressing and dramatic talk about cults and emotional scarring, with Senjogahara's mockery, Araragi's reaction to fan service and him being woken up by his sisters.
Honestly, this anime seems to have everything from close observations of the characters and drama to great action scenes and comedy.
Also when his weight almost doubled...he wasn't depressed by even half as much as Senjogahara was when she found out about her own weight issues. Why? lol~
Also worth noting that this week's OP was quite good as well, which makes me look forward to the next OP, and maybe the next ED since Senjogahara arc is now over.


Jul 14, 2009 4:59 AM

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Haylias said:


Saw it on /a/. lol.


Agree.

Also, Oshino is badass.
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Jul 14, 2009 5:18 AM

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Great episode. I feel the urge to staple something.
Jul 14, 2009 9:01 AM

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izzy92 said:
Staplers... hmmh. Well at least in this one she got her feelings back which is a good thing. But the guy gained 45 kilos!! That's a lot. :/


He grew a brain :D
Jul 14, 2009 11:23 AM
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lol, as explained in the episode, omoi in Japanese can mean "feelings", as well as "weight/heavy" when written with a different kanji.... I also lol'ed at the insertion of kanji all over the place. They actually mean a lot if you understand them. I liked when they used the ancient seal script kanji: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_Script

Actually, the covers of Japanese passports were written with seal script.....
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Jul 14, 2009 11:30 AM

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Hybrid00 said:
Haylias said:


Saw it on /a/. lol.


Agree.

Also, Oshino is badass.
Pretty lame comparison.
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Jul 14, 2009 1:05 PM

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I love this series so far. Araragi's sisters are cute. :)
Jul 14, 2009 2:30 PM

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guess this is one of the better series this season, and a few side notes:
Oshino, why do you look like a pervert?
Cute sister's you've got Araragi.
Fuck Yeah for sketchy Gods : D
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Jul 14, 2009 4:24 PM

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wow, shaft sucks.
Jul 14, 2009 4:58 PM

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mel said:
wow, shaft sucks.


You rated this series a one after two episodes, and you are still watching it... wow
Jul 14, 2009 5:28 PM

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iSwordsman said:
mel said:
wow, shaft sucks.


You rated this series a one after two episodes, and you are still watching it... wow


Dont mind him, he just loves Senjougahara so much that he decides to act Tsundere for her ;)



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Jul 14, 2009 5:31 PM

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abrasicu said:
iSwordsman said:
mel said:
wow, shaft sucks.


You rated this series a one after two episodes, and you are still watching it... wow


Dont mind him, he just loves Senjougahara so much that he decides to act Tsundere for her ;)
Well played.
Jul 14, 2009 8:48 PM

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Hm, I think Shinobu's reminding me of Rika Furude from Higurashi in her dejected state. I'm wondering if her character ends up coming into play later on~

Jul 14, 2009 10:02 PM

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So Araragi gains 45 kilos, the same weight as Hitagi. Does this somehow mean that he's carrying her burdens as well? Or implying that he wants to carry her burdens? It would be so LOL if he became "responsible" for her.

mcjazzman32 said:
I loved the episode but I have to say I'm going to be disappointed if we completely lose her sharp tongue and she turns all nice. That was the highlight for me. How she was so dangerous while also a complete smart-ass.


I don't think she's going to lose that sharp tongue. She's still yandere after all. That was just a dere moment. :P
Jul 14, 2009 10:44 PM
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I agree great episode loved the humour in the beggining of the episode. I really like how the anime is presented to the audience its definitely very different from your usual anime. The story doesn't seem to suck me in but I think this series will probably end up being one of the better 09 series and therefore I'll keep watching it. :D
Jul 14, 2009 10:55 PM

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JoyDivision said:
I don't think she's going to lose that sharp tongue. She's still yandere after all. That was just a dere moment. :P

Nope, not Yandere, TSUNDERE as she always claims to be one.



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Jul 14, 2009 11:49 PM

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JoyDivision said:
So Araragi gains 45 kilos, the same weight as Hitagi. Does this somehow mean that he's carrying her burdens as well? Or implying that he wants to carry her burdens? It would be so LOL if he became "responsible" for her.
Well.. they DID say those Gods were a sketchy bunch so .. : D
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Jul 15, 2009 12:03 AM

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This is my favorite show this season. Holy god...I'm just...in awe. Too bad, like Ef, this will probably never see an American dvd release because I would kill to own physical copies of this anime. And that's just from seeing the first two episodes.
Jul 15, 2009 8:28 AM

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pretty nice episode. the animation is really cool.
i wonder if next episode story would be completely diferent, because this seemed like it ended there.
Jul 15, 2009 8:55 AM

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Dayan said:
pretty nice episode. the animation is really cool.
i wonder if next episode story would be completely diferent, because this seemed like it ended there.


Yes it would seem so but as mentioned in the synopsis the preceeding chapters will play a substantial role for the subsequent chapters. In what way I don't know though. :D
Jul 15, 2009 3:04 PM

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Alexstratz said:
[Edit] Random Curiosity noticed staplers having sex in the OP. xD


i checked that link 3 times and just now i saw it >.<''

Jul 15, 2009 3:08 PM

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DarkSageRK said:
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Well.. they DID say those Gods were a sketchy bunch so .. : D


Sketchy is not the right translation. It would make more sense to use "careless."

Hopefully the last bit makes more sense now.

oh well, to be completely honest, I would probably be able to use both sketchy and careless in the same kind of sentence.. it kinda makes the same sense to me anyway : p
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Jul 15, 2009 3:10 PM
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Good episode. I am loving the animation so far. I thought the depiction of the crab was pretty unique. Also, they sure didn't cut back on the fan service, lol (not that I have a problem with it). The story is intriguing and well thought out, imo. However, the characters appear to be following standard archetypes. I hope that there's some major character development that separates the characters in this series from the archetypes of useless dude and tsundere. The music so far is superb as well. I'm looking forward to the rest of this series. :D
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bullshit
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Jul 15, 2009 8:45 PM
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Wow... this was full of fail.

Yeah. If only you'd let that man rape you, you're family would be juuuuust fine. WTFBBQ?

Also, what is with the ridiculous fanservice and over-the-top tsundere in the beginning? Why did no one's face get stapled? This show is losing me fast. I had really high hopes for it too, but it looks like it's being dragged down by the twin baggage of ridiculous fanservice (25 kilos) and stupid, STUPID character design choices (rape would have been fine = 30 kilos).

Let hope SHAFT pulls it's shit together.
Jul 16, 2009 1:03 AM

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Very interesting, I guess she's a cancer being born July 7th. Hmmm I do want my bloody gore in the opening thought it will be like Elfen Lied or Gantz. (;
Jul 16, 2009 2:50 AM
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DarkSageRK said:

http://www.answers.com/sketchy
http://www.answers.com/topic/careless

I'm glad you made the connection by understanding the context and thinking past the word choice, but the point is that sketchy completely changes the meaning and doesn't fit at all. People have previously indicated confusion over the ending of the show, and a proper translation would have fixed that confusion.

My fix was not superfluous, kthx.


Yes it is superfluous, and it's wrong.

"神様っていうのは、結構、大雑把な連中なんだ" was the original line.
The word we're looking at is 大雑把 (Ohzappa).

From jisho.org:
大雑把 ohzappa rough (as in not precise); broad; sketchy
Na-adjective, Noun

Key point there: not precise or, they don't care about the details (of humans in this case).

Careless in this context mean "by accident," rather than "not precise", so "careless" is wrong.

Quoting from the translation:
Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.34,0:12:35.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don't really care about humans.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.55,0:12:40.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To those Gods, the age, sex, and weight of us three are no different.

If, as you said, the God's are "careless", then these lines wouldn't make any sense at all.

Now, let's try and tackle this from a different point of view.

Why Senjoughara would be in this situation to begin with if the gods didn't pay attention (or careless, if you would)?

Next time, don't start blogging about translations unless you know what you're talking about.

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Jul 16, 2009 5:33 AM

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weird , but it seems different from the first episode for some reason

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Jul 16, 2009 7:00 AM

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I'm going to miss "old" Senjoughara though I can't really complain about her new personality.
Jul 16, 2009 9:29 AM

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Very interesting, I guess she's a cancer being born July 7th. Hmmm I do want my bloody gore in the opening thought it will be like Elfen Lied or Gantz. (;
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