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| well... another awesome episode of gundam.... |
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MapleRose said: Oh yeah, who's this "Emilio" that Sumeragi whispered about? Former lover? Brother? (or son? lol) maybe a colleague or a mentor, former strategist that took sumeragi under his wings. interesting though. can't wait to find out. |
| ooo me likey anyway im glad they went into the background of allelujah and marie more.. lol at haro, im thinking im liking lyle more even tho hes a complete prink lol and since everyone seems to hate him cuz maybe everyone was in love with his brother, he makes a good point that everyone keeps comparing him to his late brother finally, wha? at the mr. bushido's name.. i was hoping for something kick ass but this just sidekicked me lol, im hoping they go into what happened to him great episode next one looks better |
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| I love it when Setsuna raped that under water mobile armor. this show just keeps the awesomeness coming. seasaw said: 8D damn Sumeragi is moe. love it |
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| good entrance on the origin of allelujah's name. Liked how that girl just asked if setsuna and marina were lovers and they both went "no" "nope" at the same time. Loving the haro's especially the one with lockon.. saying you were dumped. Also loved sumeragi's uniform... Wow. |
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geezer said: Well, most people just don't like the kind of a guy like him but he is fine and there is nothing wrong with him.On a side note, I don't understand why so many people hate Saji. Would you react otherwise if your sister got killed and your gf injured? He's just a normal student and not a fighting machine like Setsuna who can't do anything besides fighting. I think he is the most realistic character in the series, to speak the truth. darkxdestiny said: Nah, it could even be Aeolia and how can you say NO when you haven't learned anything about Lyle yet.That mysterious character in the ending theme portion of Lyle/Lockon could either be Feldt or someone else yet to come. Or it could be someone that was dear to him. |
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ShinLore said: I didn't like this ep either too many flashback make me think of destiny too much... The flashbacks of destiny were just random flashbacks to fill an episode, the flashbacks that appeared were not even linked to the events that were taking place at the time of these flashbacks. These flashbacks in Gundam 00 forfill there roll as flashbacks giving additional information about characters, I understand youre point of destiny having much flashbacks but these two things are completly unrelated :) At topic: Ejoyed it. I love Feldt, she changed for the best in season 2 and has turned into a normal, shy and pinked haired girl. Loved the kissing scene as well. I am wandering... the moment Setsuna and Graham engaged was I the only one who laughed when Setsuna titled him as "that stuborn guy" Graham is making Gundam and hes revenge THE goal in his life and all Setsuna thinks is him being a "Stuborn guy". Poor Graham. The thing I am looking forward the most is the SajixLouise plot, which is gradually looking more and more like ShinxStella from SEED Destiny lets pray to the Gundam gods that wont happen. I also don't see Saji escape/betray CB. Is there even a place for him to go? And what motivations does he has to do this? |
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| Lyle x Feldt moment was handled in a way I never thought about, and despite his irk, I think he's becoming a much more interesting character than Neil. Still, I think its strange that the other members don't get on his case about the obvious exchange of info with Kataron immediately...though I except it'll come up sooner or later. Unison 'chigaimasu' is waaay cute. <3 And...Marina in Kataron? Maybe, but that would mean seperation again from Setsuna. *sad* Rather if she's going to leave CB, I'd hope she goes back to Azadistan and proves Shirin wrong by actually displaying some leadership...that shot of flies on the child's face was really ugh. Also questionable is CB letting Marina and Saji off the Ptolemaios so easily...don't they prioritize secrecy? |
sanjica said: Frito said: theanimeis said: Still need to know whos behind the veil!!!  feldt? a ghost? Tieria. tieria my ass!!! why would tiera touch his face?? why do everybody like the fact that they arent being overpowered? i love it when they own not being own.. alleluyah got screwed by marie and setsuna was having a tough time... if they cant handle just 2 mobile suits what about 20?? |
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| Nice tactics once again, a very enjoyable episode. |
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asterixk said: sanjica said: Frito said: theanimeis said: Still need to know whos behind the veil!!! feldt? a ghost? Tieria. tieria my ass!!! why would tiera touch his face?? why do everybody like the fact that they arent being overpowered? i love it when they own not being own.. alleluyah got screwed by marie and setsuna was having a tough time... if they cant handle just 2 mobile suits what about 20?? Because I'm a fangirl and I'm having fun shipping random characters. ...aren't you taking this too seriously? I mean, however you turn it it can't be worse than GSD. |
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| it's definitely tieria... |
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Siva said: sanjica said: AGREED!!!Frito said: theanimeis said: Still need to know whos behind the veil!!! feldt? a ghost? Tieria. Siva said: sanjica said: AGREED!!!Frito said: theanimeis said: Still need to know whos behind the veil!!! feldt? a ghost? Tieria. Totally, Tieria has none, of course he will be going for Lockon. :D |
asterixk said: tieria my ass!!! why would tiera touch his face?? why do everybody like the fact that they arent being overpowered? i love it when they own not being own.. alleluyah got screwed by marie and setsuna was having a tough time... if they cant handle just 2 mobile suits what about 20?? those 2 pilots are ace pilots of the a-lol. most of the knobs the gundam pwns are noobs, other than ali who is a professional psycho. |
| Pretty good episode, I enjoyed the back story. |
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| Ok, can someone tell me where is Veda ? Since when can Setsuna make decisions like that ? Calestial Being started to make amateur mistakes. To many emotions are a problem in this season. I didn't like this episode, 3/5. |
zerron said: Ok, can someone tell me where is Veda ? Since when can Setsuna make decisions like that ? Calestial Being started to make amateur mistakes. To many emotions are a problem in this season. I didn't like this episode, 3/5. Veda system is now in Ribbons' hands. CB no longer has access to the entire Veda system and Trial System abilities. Up until now, Sumeragi would plan out the strategy and run it through the Veda for the probability calculations. Now, its all up to Sumeragi to plan it out, without even a possibility to check the strategy through Veda. Setsuna is the current leader of Celestial Being, he almost automatically assumed that position and everyone was happy with it. He is the person who holds the team together and can make any decisions he wants. He was chosen for this position because he was the only one to retain the sense of right during the Falling-Angels crisis four years ago, not to mention the fact that he is official pilot of 00, a gundam capable of taking down gundams and defying the laws of physics |
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Fai said: zerron said: Ok, can someone tell me where is Veda ? Since when can Setsuna make decisions like that ? Calestial Being started to make amateur mistakes. To many emotions are a problem in this season. I didn't like this episode, 3/5. Veda system is now in Ribbons' hands. CB no longer has access to the entire Veda system and Trial System abilities. Up until now, Sumeragi would plan out the strategy and run it through the Veda for the probability calculations. Now, its all up to Sumeragi to plan it out, without even a possibility to check the strategy through Veda. Setsuna is the current leader of Celestial Being, he almost automatically assumed that position and everyone was happy with it. He is the person who holds the team together and can make any decisions he wants. He was chosen for this position because he was the only one to retain the sense of right during the Falling-Angels crisis four years ago, not to mention the fact that he is official pilot of 00, a gundam capable of taking down gundams and defying the laws of physics Why does this kinda reminds me of Kira in GSD? ... >__> I sure hope Setsuna doesn't get all god-like DX... |
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MapleRose said: Why does this kinda reminds me of Kira in GSD? ... >__> I sure hope Setsuna doesn't get all god-like DX... More of a Heero to me...Relena-Marina please. He doesn't seem too god-like also, seeming on-par with the Mistah Bushido [...lol] in an Ahead...which is actually a little sad considering their machines. |
MapleRose said: Fai said: zerron said: Ok, can someone tell me where is Veda ? Since when can Setsuna make decisions like that ? Calestial Being started to make amateur mistakes. To many emotions are a problem in this season. I didn't like this episode, 3/5. Veda system is now in Ribbons' hands. CB no longer has access to the entire Veda system and Trial System abilities. Up until now, Sumeragi would plan out the strategy and run it through the Veda for the probability calculations. Now, its all up to Sumeragi to plan it out, without even a possibility to check the strategy through Veda. Setsuna is the current leader of Celestial Being, he almost automatically assumed that position and everyone was happy with it. He is the person who holds the team together and can make any decisions he wants. He was chosen for this position because he was the only one to retain the sense of right during the Falling-Angels crisis four years ago, not to mention the fact that he is official pilot of 00, a gundam capable of taking down gundams and defying the laws of physics Why does this kinda reminds me of Kira in GSD? ... >__> I sure hope Setsuna doesn't get all god-like DX... it has been implied that gundam 00 is the only tool that possess the fire power to rid of other GN powered machines. so technically setsuna has the rolls royce of gundams while the other drive mercedez. on the topic of where the hell is veda. it was stolen away from them. they made a back up veda and now most of the work are usually calculated by themselves. i still think veda pwns back up veda but that said they might do something drastic to take it back. as it is believed to be one of the main reason for the world's technology progression. |
MapleRose said: Why does this kinda reminds me of Kira in GSD? ... >__> I sure hope Setsuna doesn't get all god-like DX... AS long as he is as flawed and different as he is now, I doubt I could compare him to any of previous protagonists. The guy sometimes seems like Heero, but the similarities are not big enough to proclaim him second Heero. |
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Fai said: Veda system is now in Ribbons' hands. CB no longer has access to the entire Veda system and Trial System abilities. Up until now, Sumeragi would plan out the strategy and run it through the Veda for the probability calculations. Now, its all up to Sumeragi to plan it out, without even a possibility to check the strategy through Veda. Setsuna is the current leader of Celestial Being, he almost automatically assumed that position and everyone was happy with it. He is the person who holds the team together and can make any decisions he wants. He was chosen for this position because he was the only one to retain the sense of right during the Falling-Angels crisis four years ago, not to mention the fact that he is official pilot of 00, a gundam capable of taking down gundams and defying the laws of physics So now, even with new powered up Gundams, CB is weaker than it was before - without Veda and with one weak Gundam Meister (Allelujah), all acting based on their emotions. Setsuna became "leader" just because he didn't gave up at that time :( They are just a little desperate ... Sumeragi is smart, but I don't think that Setsuna could be a good leader. I also doubt that Allelujah is ever going to be as good as he was before (as pilot). Liu Mei could also become the enemy in the future. Maybe some enemies are going to become allies. |
| Best moment of this episode was the sexual harrassment. I sure am glad that the Gundams aren't overpowered. |
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| A rather standard episode. Typical to find out the reasons for fighting. But the story is getting interesting with Setsuna having some doubt creep in as to whether or not to join with Marina? |
zerron said: So now, even with new powered up Gundams, CB is weaker than it was before - without Veda and with one weak Gundam Meister (Allelujah), all acting based on their emotions. Setsuna became "leader" just because he didn't gave up at that time :( They are just a little desperate ... Sumeragi is smart, but I don't think that Setsuna could be a good leader. I also doubt that Allelujah is ever going to be as good as he was before (as pilot). Liu Mei could also become the enemy in the future. Maybe some enemies are going to become allies. Yep, they have gundams based on slightly improved original designs, but they no longer have the backing of Observers or ability to use VEda. Any money they get, they get from Wang Liu Mei now. Setsuna became a leader because he has already shown to be capable of pulling everyone together. He, currently, is an alpha male of the group. he is a type of person who can stick to the ideals and mission. He is a type of personality others would fear and listen to. Not to mention that he already has shown the capability of "leading" them, no matter the methods, by getting Sumeragi back into team. Frankly, I would not be surprised if Setsuna knew that "Lockon" is not really on their side for now. I would not be surprised if Setsuna would surprise him by showing that he knows that at the crucial moment. Something like "Kataron has fallen now. Now, are you ready to actually stand by our side, getting the capabilities of getting revenge against both those who killed your comrades and those who destroyed your brother, or will you continue to betray our trust in you, the trust your brother had in you? I actually see such scene in my mind right now, with "Lockon" being shocked, whil Setsuna states all of that in his usual tone. Now for Alelujah, all he needs to do is to understand that all Hal had came from him himself. It was not a different one, it him, himself, using all his capabilities. For now, I see Allelujah being in "mental block" state, where his mind "goes with Hallelujah is dead" and refuses to manage super-soldier functions, because his psyche sorts them under Hallelujah, who is dead. |
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Why does this kinda reminds me of Kira in GSD? ... >__> I sure hope Setsuna doesn't get all god-like DX... It wont become like GSD. Mizushima > Fukuda |
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| Mr Bushido...don't they have something more...nicer? Anyways, the name doesn't matter. Action speaks louder than words after all. Grt episode and yeah, grt fun. Oh, Billy, I don't blame him being so angry. I would be too! |
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| We'll see if Allelujah is going to pull himself together and what kind of decisions will Setsuna make after he sees that he can't do things on Marina's way... Mr Bushido - wasn't there someone in One Piece with this code name ? |
| so i re-watched the episode with menclave subs and it made more sense this time around. bushido reminds me of batman wearing his mask, looks kinda funny. |
| liked the ep, but when I heard Graham's alias I was like, "Great, they turned him into a weaboo." =/ |
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nyaraka said: Man, I realize the previews show Saji essentially betraying Celestial Being, but I really hope he does convert over eventually. why do you assume that sergei is still part of the military, maybe he is now part of CB's plan...that's a big maybe btw. i just realized that my beloved china-san didn't make an appearance in this episode T.T. that makes me sad. hopefully next episode she shows up with a bang. |
nyaraka said: Man, I realize the previews show Saji essentially betraying Celestial Being, but I really hope he does convert over eventually. I doubt Saji would be able to escape from Ptolemaios MKII, if that was not part of some ulterior CB plan... |
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Frito said: nyaraka said: Man, I realize the previews show Saji essentially betraying Celestial Being, but I really hope he does convert over eventually. why do you assume that sergei is still part of the military, maybe he is now part of CB's plan...that's a big maybe btw. Oh yeah, Sergei isn't officially part of A-Law is he? Did he retire or something? What happened to the Observers (other than Alejandro)? Who appointed them? Were they just rich people? |
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MapleRose said: Frito said: nyaraka said: Man, I realize the previews show Saji essentially betraying Celestial Being, but I really hope he does convert over eventually. why do you assume that sergei is still part of the military, maybe he is now part of CB's plan...that's a big maybe btw. Oh yeah, Sergei isn't officially part of A-Law is he? Did he retire or something? What happened to the Observers (other than Alejandro)? Who appointed them? Were they just rich people? Observers were people from rich and influential families(the families seemingly chosen by Aeolia himself 300 years ago). They had quite a big posts in three world powers and secretly funded the CB project. However, at the end of Season1, it was hinted that Alejandro took care of other Observers already. Sergei is part of regular Earth Federation Military. He is not part of A-Laws, and form what he did in these 4 episodes, it seems that he is suspicious that something is not right with A-Laws organisation |
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| people didn't realize that CB was rigged and alejandro killed all/most of observers. |
| a pair who say they're not a pair, setsuna and marina kind of act like it. the federation sure has some new powerful weapons, but that won't stop the gundams!!! and what gundam series would be complete without a mask man to offer competition for the gundams? |
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| Mr Bushido. LOL!!! Can't stop laughing. We finally learned hoe Allelujah got such a weird name. Marie. Poor girl. What happened to her. Why is she someone else now? |
Siva said: sanjica said: AGREED!!!Frito said: theanimeis said: Still need to know whos behind the veil!!! feldt? a ghost? Tieria. LMA000 |
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| lol, I loved how Marina and Setsuna both responded in the same way when asked if they were lovers. And I feel sorry for Allelujah, for being "baptized" with such an ugly-sounding name. |
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| More of Allelujah past. His relationship with Marie/Soma is kinda cute~ xD It seems like Saji will work for Celestial Being after this~ Lyle has quite a big resemblance to Neil. I just cant stop smiling when he's around~ ^^ |
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| Crazy action packed episode. Fuck. He got in a red mobile suit. He has a mask. Now if he tries to hide who he really is with a pair of sunglasses........ |
| Huh, that kiss was something... I hope they'll become a koibito after all... :РР Also want to know who is behind the veil in ending... BTW I changed my mind about ending song, its nice! But opening still not as good as the ones in 1st season. |
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