Rimuru is EVIL!

Jun 15, 7:36 AM

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Such an odd logic "Ah yes, I hope you don't mind me stationing my 100k troops outside your city. I know we've attacked you just a short while ago, and plan to attack more, but I promise those are just words"

Jun 15, 8:42 AM

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GrimAtrament

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Ah yes the just following orders defense classic

Ignorance doesn't excuse there actiions. They were still on there way to genocide an entire civilization. the reality of war is that most soldiers don't have anything personal against who they are at war with. That doesnt mean if you are attacked you should just sit by and watch 20 lk soldiers slaughter your people because they were "just following orders." Any one of those men could have left. They chose to stay.

"among monsters and humans, there are only two types.
Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice
“Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume
“Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus

Jun 15, 11:52 AM

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Scootboi

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damn who gave this neanderthal an internet connection? bad opinions are one thing but this is a whole new level

Jun 15, 12:01 PM

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Elior21

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RjtheGreat14 said:
Is this crazy talk??!

Yes, this is crazy talk.
Preemptively destroying your enemies is not evil in a war.
These people wanted financial gain by murdering their peaceful neighbors.
Even if 90% of them didn't do anything yet because they didn't arrive to Tempest. But 100% of them would kill if given the order to do so.
And they were aware that these monsters are sentient and not savage. Tempest is famous at this point and everyone knows they don't attack humans, but welcome them and trade with them.
You also missed the part that Rimuru knows that if he doesn't kill these soldiers, Clayman will, and take their souls and evolve to a demon lord. So they were done for either way.

@Yaggamy yes also at the time rimuru also didnt know falmuth was being manipulated by the eastern merchants as it said in episode 12 this wekk

Jun 15, 12:02 PM

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Rimuru killing 20k Falmuth soldiers and templar knights were justified, to protect his nation, his people and his beloved friends, and to revive his people and friends who were killed by Falmuth soldiers. You think that's evil for you? Rimuru didn't even provoke Falmuth in the first place, he just wants to build a nation free from any conflicts.

Falmuth invasion to Tempest is the prime definition of "fuck around and find out".

@urvanime even if falmuth was being manipulated by the east as hinata said in this weeks episode?

Jun 15, 12:03 PM

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What is this post? Do you even know what a demon lord is? You don't become a demon lord by holding hands and singing songs. Rimeru will only get more ruthless to protect his people and country. He is a demon lord, holder of one of the seven sin series skills

@Stanleyliam1990 but did he need to go this far? i mean sure he didn't know they were being manipulated by the east but still so many pepole lost

Jun 15, 12:06 PM

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@GrimAtrament even if they were being manipulated by the east as explained by hinata in this week episode?

Jun 15, 12:33 PM

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Elior21 said:
@Stanleyliam1990 but did he need to go this far? i mean sure he didn't know they were being manipulated by the east but still so many pepole lost

Of course he did, they was an army preparing to attack and slaughter them all. You ain't going to leave them alive after that. He made up his mind he would kill all of them except the king and use them as fuel for is evolution. It's not our world he is in its an isekai. Leaving them alive when he is evolving is a death sentence as he could be killed before he evolved. Also he used the corpse of the dead to summon a demons and he used 2 of them as fuel for the revival skill. It all worked out.

Jun 15, 12:34 PM

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@Stanleyliam1990 but did he need to go this far? i mean sure he didn't know they were being manipulated by the east but still so many pepole lost

Elior21 said:
but did he need to go this far? i mean sure he didn't know they were being manipulated by the east but still so many pepole lost

There's a lot of manipulation going on in the world and someone always has to gain from two countries going to war.
Falmuth was manipulated yes, but not forced to go to war. They had the option of remaining peaceful and opening up trade to Tempest. They were greedy which led to their downfall.
It was crustal to the grand scheme of things that Rimuru kills the Falmuth army and evolves into a true demon lord. Their deaths lead to a better future for the whole world.
If Rimuru doesn't kill the Falmuth army:

Jun 15, 12:37 PM

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Elior21 said:
@Stanleyliam1990 but did he need to go this far? i mean sure he didn't know they were being manipulated by the east but still so many pepole lost

@Stanleyliam1990 so you mean the eastern merchants doesn't have to pay like falmute even if they were the ones who were ingested this war?

Jun 15, 12:39 PM

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Oh they will pay in due time. The story is only beginning.

Jun 15, 12:42 PM

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Elior21 said:
but did he need to go this far? i mean sure he didn't know they were being manipulated by the east but still so many pepole lost

@Yaggamy but the eastern Marchant is the one who told hinata that rimuru killed shizu and that why she attacked rimuru so isnt this what forced falmuth to go to war? so it was the east fault

Jun 15, 1:21 PM

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I wish he was evil. It would make the show more interesting. He could lead his monster village to genocide humans for fun or whatever.

Jun 15, 1:32 PM

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@Yaggamy but the eastern Marchant is the one who told hinata that rimuru killed shizu and that why she attacked rimuru so isnt this what forced falmuth to go to war? so it was the east fault

Elior21 said:
but the eastern Marchant is the one who told hinata that rimuru killed shizu and that why she attacked rimuru so isnt this what forced falmuth to go to war? so it was the east fault

There are multiple plans happening simultaneously.
Yes, Hinata was tricked by the Eastern Merchant, Damrada. But Yuuki was the one who told Damrada to tell Hinata Rimuru killed Shizu.
Damrada also visited Falmuth and gave a little push so they realized that Tempest overshadowed them.
Falmuth went to war because they lost their position as a trade hub to Tempest, thus their income significantly declined. This is in the meeting in S2E4 of the anime. Basically the war broke out because of the king's greed.

Jun 16, 4:33 PM

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No one said he was a good guy.
First things first, if you are a member of an army and you are sent to attack another country you can't complain about being killed, Rimaru killed those soldiers Mercilessly HOWEVER, compared to the fate Clayman got you could say it was by far quick and painless.

Now let's think about Rimaru for a second, his home was attacked, the people he held close were murdered, his own rules used against him (in his opinion) resulting in high numbers of casualties "no attacking humans"
Now along comes a little elven princess who tells him there is a chance to save them from this unjust fate, but it will cost him his own personal self and an enormous amount of souls, that just so happened to be marching towards his home to finish the job.

Rimaru is No hero, he's human, he chose to protect what's important to him, and I'd have made the same choice.

"Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls, and ask the ghosts if HONOR matters, their silence is your answer"

Jun 18, 11:43 AM

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demon lords are not evil in tensura, they are same as humans , or they even protect humans

Not exactly

The Demon Lords doesn't really "Protect Humans"

The Demon Lords are pretty much like "Justice Lords" of DC/U (evil Justice League)

They use their power to judge everyone else.

This is also one of the reason why even the "strongest hero" instead of fighting the Demon Lords switched sides and become a "Demon Lord" himself. Cause it's easier to live with knowing the truth about the Demon Lords since nearly all Humans have no idea about the actual Demon Lords. Where the world is pretty much all controlled by the Demon Lords, even the "Kingdoms" that's saying Demon Lords are evil actually serves the Demon Lords in some way.

Such as the current Human's with Hinata, all thinks they're worshipping a "GOD" when in fact it's just a Demon Lord, they don't know the truth. It's also the reason why they decide to attack Rimuru in the first place, cause they were told Hinata is conspiring with the Evil Demon Lord Rimuru.

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If the Demon Lords protect Humans, they would have stopped Rimuru when he started the massacre.

Cause we all know how fast and strong the Demon Lords are, more than half of them are still stronger than current Rimuru. Which means they could easily stopped Rimuru if they really were "protecting humans" before Rimuru become Demon Lord and become stronger.

But they didn't, they just stood by and watched on TV.

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Also, Demon Lords are technically evil by origin.

Remember, the condition to become a Demon Lord is literally to kill thousands of Humans all at one time.

This means every single Demon Lord we know of, already killed thousands of Humans previously, before they start to "protect humans" LOL...

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So basically, to become good "to protect humans" you first have to be evil and "kill humans".

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Jun 21, 7:42 PM

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lol the guy only wants to live in peace with his friends and have fun. he was attacked, his town burned and had 100+ of his friends murdered in cold blood. only way to revive them is to take 20k souls which was conveniently marching towards his trapped and surrounded town to finish them off

he's the evil one?🤣😂 he didn't want war, the soilders march towards his land to pillage and kill his ppl. right b4 his attack soilders were talking about how they heard that some of monsters were real lookers and how this was gonna be fun

they got what they deserved

Jun 21, 7:48 PM

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RjtheGreat14 said:
@Imagine_Breakr sure everything is fair in war, But the total annihilation of the opponents army very rarely happen!

Usually when the enemy force of about 20% get destroyed, the war is already over.

If rimuru really just want to send a message he can just destroyed only 20% of the enemy army.

then he wouldn't have enough souls to revive his friends that THEIR nation slaughtered including unarmed civilians, children

I can't believe there's actually ppl who thinks Falmouth didn't get exactly what they deserved

they declared war, remiru just ended it and mad damn sure they wouldn't come back, ever

Jun 21, 7:59 PM

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Imagine_Breakr said:
everything is fair in war..... u think russian soldiers shouldn't be killed even if Putin is the bad guy for Ukraine?
That's the reason War is to be prohibited as much as possible
From a political standpoint Rimuru always wished to avoid wars such that the neighbouring kingdoms would accept monster nation Tempest as a Verified nonhostile country...
look at s3 rimuru never wanted to wage war even when odds were against him .... but war did occur even then he tried to reduce deaths
Also the sacrifice that the kingdom has made 100k soldiers was purely their risk factor
soldiers join wars knowing something like this may occur!

agree with everything but Ukraine being the good guy. 1)like remiru putin tried peace several times, Ukraine/nato/us were the ones who kept breaking agreements.
2)Russia even tried to build bridges and tried to join nato, til the cia urged the current president to refuse their open hand.
3) Ukraine, literal neighbors to Russia tried to join a anti Russia alliance, Russia was supposed to sit back and watch?
4) Russia isn't constantly demanding the rest of the world give them money
5) Ukraine literally veiws nazi's as heros and still promotes their ideology especially in western Ukraine

if the US was Russia and Ukraine Mexico, I guarantee we'd be invading Mexico like Russia is invading Ukraine

Jun 22, 1:06 AM

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Rimuru is for not evil, rather he was backed into a wall and that was the only option at the time in order to resurrect his people. Had there been another way that didn't require killing all those soldiers, he wouldn't have done it.

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Jun 26, 10:00 PM

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RjtheGreat14 said:
Okay I know this sounds crazy but hear me out. In season 2 He erased not murdered around 20k soldiers to become a demon lord. If you are not thinking you would say this is okay because they attacked Tempest first. But if you look closely Most or maybe 90% of those 20k soldiers did not personally attack tempest.

Sure they are about to attack but before they erased (erased means they cannot be reincarnated because rimuru devoured there souls in order to become a demon lord) they are just in stand by and awaiting orders.

And I can still argue that Most of them probably think that they are attacking Savage monster that kill people. and in one of the scene in season 2 this soldiers have family waiting for them to comeback.

So rimuru just sacrificing there souls to become a demon lord even thought most of them did nothing wrong to tempest is I think WAY MORE EVIL than griffith did in berserk! (in griffith case he only sacrifice a few hundred of people)

And the FUNNY thing is the people who are responsible for the attack in tempest almost got away with it. The king, the bishop and Ramzas the mage only got a slap on the wrist when diablo turn them to a pile of meat, BUT after that they are living like nothing happen!!!

Is this crazy talk??!

Comparing the two? 🤢 fr

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