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Jul 4, 2021 5:00 PM
#51
I liked the proposal of the show itself is something very different from the communication the episode was very nice interesting To where Sayaka Theater Academy this is very different from the ordinary. |
Jul 4, 2021 5:38 PM
#52
I like it. Probably one of the best first episode of the season. I'm hyped for the next week! |
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Jul 4, 2021 6:02 PM
#53
RareWRLD It's based on the Takarazuka Revue in real life, which is made out of so called "virgin women." Some of them are fairly young teens, so it's not surprising. And in real life, most of the fans of the revue are actually women. So, you're off the mark there. I'm not going to talk about the trauma part, but the school is all women except for teachers. |
Jul 4, 2021 7:53 PM
#54
Really loved this first episode. I would love more background on Ai especially, but since she does seem to be the main character it will come with time. I find her to be the most relatable out of all the characters thus far in terms of "normal human you'd find out in the wild" and I enjoy that. First show I have been genuinely excited about in quite awhile. |
Jul 4, 2021 10:46 PM
#55
RareWRLD said: Ngl this is weird as fuck. Ai hates men, but not all men, but clearly speaks "no stench of men", implying they are all the same, she’s not saying "no weird men" or "no otaku men". Why? I think it would be much more logical and interesting if her trauma didn’t somehow choose which men she is okay with, and so she would be struggling with male teachers and Sarasa would cheer her on and help her mind heal. Also I don’t understand why she is going into theatre, she has no enthusiasm or motive to do so. And why would you leave being an idol to then become an actor, which has a lot of similarities especially being a social figure, which oh-oh, attracts more men! Or is the theater actually only visited by women who fall in love with each other? And don’t even get me started on this dumb shit where it’s the academy of "unmarried woman" or some shit like that. I personally can’t stand this whole idea of virgin purity. Treating the academy with such a name seriously would be catering to weird men actually, so hopefully Ai rises a riot or I’m not rating this highly Well for Ai all "strange men" are the same, the Idol Industry is full of creeps so no wonder why she would develop a trauma over unknown men touching or just looking at her. I kinda understand how her uncle is not "the same", having a person that actually understands you helps a lot and it's understandable for her to wanting him close, she doesn't see him as a possible threat like she sees unknown men. She explains she decided to go to Kouka because there are no male students, it's not the Idol stuff she is afraid of but men. Why would she stop herself from studying what she loves if she can go to a female school? I'm sorry if there's any mistake, English is not my first language. |
Jul 5, 2021 1:17 AM
#56
RareWRLD said: Ngl this is weird as fuck. Ai hates men, but not all men, but clearly speaks "no stench of men", implying they are all the same, she’s not saying "no weird men" or "no otaku men". Why? I think it would be much more logical and interesting if her trauma didn’t somehow choose which men she is okay with, and so she would be struggling with male teachers I thought it was fairly obvious that she hates men that come up to her and touch her without notice or without asking her if it'd be OK. So if she's the one initiating contact, it's not a problem. She also seems to have a stalker, the guy in the ED who says that he's finally found her, so that's most likely linked to her trauma of men as well and possibly to the reason for her quitting work as an idol. And she IS struggling with male teachers, remember how she was glad that she wouldn't have any and her uncle said there still would be male teachers? And how she didn't want to be touched by the military dude? (idk if he was a hired teacher but he was teaching them at the time) RareWRLD said: Also I don’t understand why she is going into theatre, she has no enthusiasm or motive to do so. And why would you leave being an idol to then become an actor, which has a lot of similarities especially being a social figure, which oh-oh, attracts more men! Just because we haven't seen everything in the first episode, doesn't mean it won't be explained eventually. It could be that something happened that caused her to quit being an idol (the "graduation" comment from the fan implies she was let go from her group) and her family insisted she stay in showbiz one way or another. |
Jul 5, 2021 9:40 AM
#57
Yuri-Crusader said: Kayle_x_Morgana said: Yuri-Crusader said: I do see some minor Yuri vibes especially when they were standing under the sakura tree, and I like that Most of the males irritated me, the military dude was ok And I also find the animation to be a bit off. The girls weren't as cute as I want them to be. Not ugly either but they could be cuter. They look kind of weird with odd proportions But the colors were very nice IMO I give this anime 1/10 for now.Overall It didn't suit my taste very well someone elsewhere said the anime was "politically correct" maybe that is why they are ugly. lol Maybe you are right about that one. That is going to be a dealbreaker for me. I want to watch pretty anime girls Lol. This character design wasn't the best choice IMO I'm assuming the author, a woman, hates men IRL because she got sexually harrassed or something and it turned into this anime. I didn't actually watch it when i posted that comment. i am now since i am now interested |
Jul 5, 2021 10:17 AM
#58
If it wasn't for Sarasa, I'd probably drop this. She's great! I don't think she's easily intimidated, more due her upbringing than her size. |
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Jul 5, 2021 12:04 PM
#59
Kayle_x_Morgana said: Yuri-Crusader said: Kayle_x_Morgana said: Yuri-Crusader said: I do see some minor Yuri vibes especially when they were standing under the sakura tree, and I like that Most of the males irritated me, the military dude was ok And I also find the animation to be a bit off. The girls weren't as cute as I want them to be. Not ugly either but they could be cuter. They look kind of weird with odd proportions But the colors were very nice IMO I give this anime 1/10 for now.Overall It didn't suit my taste very well someone elsewhere said the anime was "politically correct" maybe that is why they are ugly. lol Maybe you are right about that one. That is going to be a dealbreaker for me. I want to watch pretty anime girls Lol. This character design wasn't the best choice IMO I'm assuming the author, a woman, hates men IRL because she got sexually harrassed or something and it turned into this anime. I didn't actually watch it when i posted that comment. i am now since i am now interested You're not making assumptions, you're making inane accusations. You're also implying that only a misandrist author would/could write misandrist characters, and that is asinine. |
Jul 5, 2021 12:13 PM
#60
Avvenirista said: Not at all insane.Kayle_x_Morgana said: Yuri-Crusader said: Kayle_x_Morgana said: Yuri-Crusader said: I do see some minor Yuri vibes especially when they were standing under the sakura tree, and I like that Most of the males irritated me, the military dude was ok And I also find the animation to be a bit off. The girls weren't as cute as I want them to be. Not ugly either but they could be cuter. They look kind of weird with odd proportions But the colors were very nice IMO I give this anime 1/10 for now.Overall It didn't suit my taste very well someone elsewhere said the anime was "politically correct" maybe that is why they are ugly. lol Maybe you are right about that one. That is going to be a dealbreaker for me. I want to watch pretty anime girls Lol. This character design wasn't the best choice IMO I'm assuming the author, a woman, hates men IRL because she got sexually harrassed or something and it turned into this anime. I didn't actually watch it when i posted that comment. i am now since i am now interested You're not making assumptions, you're making inane accusations. You're also implying that only a misandrist author would/could write misandrist characters, and that is asinine. Why else would someone write a anime about a school girl hating men and creepy guys harrassing and stalking her? And weird guys saying cringe shit like "I stan you". I would bet money on that or her being a feminist. |
Jul 5, 2021 12:37 PM
#61
Kinda surprised by the low score, thought this was a solid first episode! |
Jul 5, 2021 12:59 PM
#62
Kayle_x_Morgana said: Avvenirista said: Not at all insane.Kayle_x_Morgana said: Yuri-Crusader said: Kayle_x_Morgana said: Yuri-Crusader said: I do see some minor Yuri vibes especially when they were standing under the sakura tree, and I like that Most of the males irritated me, the military dude was ok And I also find the animation to be a bit off. The girls weren't as cute as I want them to be. Not ugly either but they could be cuter. They look kind of weird with odd proportions But the colors were very nice IMO I give this anime 1/10 for now.Overall It didn't suit my taste very well someone elsewhere said the anime was "politically correct" maybe that is why they are ugly. lol Maybe you are right about that one. That is going to be a dealbreaker for me. I want to watch pretty anime girls Lol. This character design wasn't the best choice IMO I'm assuming the author, a woman, hates men IRL because she got sexually harrassed or something and it turned into this anime. I didn't actually watch it when i posted that comment. i am now since i am now interested You're not making assumptions, you're making inane accusations. You're also implying that only a misandrist author would/could write misandrist characters, and that is asinine. Why else would someone write a anime about a school girl hating men and creepy guys harrassing and stalking her? And weird guys saying cringe shit like "I stan you". I would bet money on that or her being a feminist. What kind of misguided argument are you making here? ''Why would you write a manga about X and X if you're not X and X yourself?'' as to be one of the most inane reasoning I've ever heard. You also seem somehow confident after just one single episode in the fact that Ai will overcome her loathing for most men. |
Jul 5, 2021 1:13 PM
#63
Avvenirista said: Kayle_x_Morgana said: Avvenirista said: Kayle_x_Morgana said: Yuri-Crusader said: Kayle_x_Morgana said: Yuri-Crusader said: I do see some minor Yuri vibes especially when they were standing under the sakura tree, and I like that Most of the males irritated me, the military dude was ok And I also find the animation to be a bit off. The girls weren't as cute as I want them to be. Not ugly either but they could be cuter. They look kind of weird with odd proportions But the colors were very nice IMO I give this anime 1/10 for now.Overall It didn't suit my taste very well someone elsewhere said the anime was "politically correct" maybe that is why they are ugly. lol Maybe you are right about that one. That is going to be a dealbreaker for me. I want to watch pretty anime girls Lol. This character design wasn't the best choice IMO I'm assuming the author, a woman, hates men IRL because she got sexually harrassed or something and it turned into this anime. I didn't actually watch it when i posted that comment. i am now since i am now interested You're not making assumptions, you're making inane accusations. You're also implying that only a misandrist author would/could write misandrist characters, and that is asinine. Why else would someone write a anime about a school girl hating men and creepy guys harrassing and stalking her? And weird guys saying cringe shit like "I stan you". I would bet money on that or her being a feminist. What kind of misguided argument are you making here? ''Why would you write a manga about X and X if you're not X and X yourself?'' as to be one of the most inane reasoning I've ever heard. You also seem somehow confident after just one single episode in the fact that Ai will overcome her loathing for most men. How many other are there like this of a girl hating men? I can think of like 2 but there were actual reasons for the hate. Rape/assault etc. But this one? I'm waiting for her to mention the "patriarchy" or some other horse shit. Sure believe what you want. If we could read her tweets, we could see. I can't wait for episode 12 finale where it turns out her teacher friend gets #metoo'd from a girl 10 years ago in high school. |
Jul 5, 2021 1:30 PM
#64
Kayle_x_Morgana said: Avvenirista said: Kayle_x_Morgana said: Avvenirista said: Not at all insane.Kayle_x_Morgana said: Yuri-Crusader said: Kayle_x_Morgana said: Yuri-Crusader said: I do see some minor Yuri vibes especially when they were standing under the sakura tree, and I like that Most of the males irritated me, the military dude was ok And I also find the animation to be a bit off. The girls weren't as cute as I want them to be. Not ugly either but they could be cuter. They look kind of weird with odd proportions But the colors were very nice IMO I give this anime 1/10 for now.Overall It didn't suit my taste very well someone elsewhere said the anime was "politically correct" maybe that is why they are ugly. lol Maybe you are right about that one. That is going to be a dealbreaker for me. I want to watch pretty anime girls Lol. This character design wasn't the best choice IMO I'm assuming the author, a woman, hates men IRL because she got sexually harrassed or something and it turned into this anime. I didn't actually watch it when i posted that comment. i am now since i am now interested You're not making assumptions, you're making inane accusations. You're also implying that only a misandrist author would/could write misandrist characters, and that is asinine. Why else would someone write a anime about a school girl hating men and creepy guys harrassing and stalking her? And weird guys saying cringe shit like "I stan you". I would bet money on that or her being a feminist. What kind of misguided argument are you making here? ''Why would you write a manga about X and X if you're not X and X yourself?'' as to be one of the most inane reasoning I've ever heard. You also seem somehow confident after just one single episode in the fact that Ai will overcome her loathing for most men. How many other are there like this of a girl hating men? I can think of like 2 but there were actual reasons for the hate. Rape/assault etc. But this one? I'm waiting for her to mention the "patriarchy" or some other horse shit. Sure believe what you want. If we could read her tweets, we could see. I can't wait for episode 12 finale where it turns out her teacher friend gets #metoo'd from a girl 10 years ago in high school. What a fallacious way of thinking, you're also putting the cart before the horse in all your assertions, already being prepared for what you're assuming is inevitable (spoiler: it's not - read the manga). Also, if you're so interested in reading Saiki Kumiko's posts and whatnot on the web, then go ahead, she has both twitter and facebook accounts for all to see. |
AvveniristaJul 5, 2021 1:34 PM
Jul 5, 2021 1:33 PM
#65
pandemonium91 said: RareWRLD said: Ngl this is weird as fuck. Ai hates men, but not all men, but clearly speaks "no stench of men", implying they are all the same, she’s not saying "no weird men" or "no otaku men". Why? I think it would be much more logical and interesting if her trauma didn’t somehow choose which men she is okay with, and so she would be struggling with male teachers I thought it was fairly obvious that she hates men that come up to her and touch her without notice or without asking her if it'd be OK. So if she's the one initiating contact, it's not a problem. She also seems to have a stalker, the guy in the ED who says that he's finally found her, so that's most likely linked to her trauma of men as well and possibly to the reason for her quitting work as an idol. And she IS struggling with male teachers, remember how she was glad that she wouldn't have any and her uncle said there still would be male teachers? And how she didn't want to be touched by the military dude? (idk if he was a hired teacher but he was teaching them at the time) RareWRLD said: Also I don’t understand why she is going into theatre, she has no enthusiasm or motive to do so. And why would you leave being an idol to then become an actor, which has a lot of similarities especially being a social figure, which oh-oh, attracts more men! Just because we haven't seen everything in the first episode, doesn't mean it won't be explained eventually. It could be that something happened that caused her to quit being an idol (the "graduation" comment from the fan implies she was let go from her group) and her family insisted she stay in showbiz one way or another. It’s just not the case man, the first dude that we see on the train didn’t touch her, yet she goes crazy. When teacher at the school ACTUALLY tried to touch her - she pokerface dodges him. And somehow manages to pass AND study with the male teachers with 0 incidents of her acting like on the train, there is clearly no struggle there, she goes through easily This show, like, tries to make her look vulnerable and strong at the same time which just doesn’t work, especially with her "don’t give a fuck" personality. Feels like it’s 2 very different stories that are mixed into one. I would much rather like have those 2 entities of her split, and either watch a story of a traumatized girl overcoming her past, or a dead inside girl going into theatre school and having a romance. Mixing them into one just ruins it |
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Jul 5, 2021 1:36 PM
#66
RareWRLD said: pandemonium91 said: RareWRLD said: Ngl this is weird as fuck. Ai hates men, but not all men, but clearly speaks "no stench of men", implying they are all the same, she’s not saying "no weird men" or "no otaku men". Why? I think it would be much more logical and interesting if her trauma didn’t somehow choose which men she is okay with, and so she would be struggling with male teachers I thought it was fairly obvious that she hates men that come up to her and touch her without notice or without asking her if it'd be OK. So if she's the one initiating contact, it's not a problem. She also seems to have a stalker, the guy in the ED who says that he's finally found her, so that's most likely linked to her trauma of men as well and possibly to the reason for her quitting work as an idol. And she IS struggling with male teachers, remember how she was glad that she wouldn't have any and her uncle said there still would be male teachers? And how she didn't want to be touched by the military dude? (idk if he was a hired teacher but he was teaching them at the time) RareWRLD said: Also I don’t understand why she is going into theatre, she has no enthusiasm or motive to do so. And why would you leave being an idol to then become an actor, which has a lot of similarities especially being a social figure, which oh-oh, attracts more men! Just because we haven't seen everything in the first episode, doesn't mean it won't be explained eventually. It could be that something happened that caused her to quit being an idol (the "graduation" comment from the fan implies she was let go from her group) and her family insisted she stay in showbiz one way or another. It’s just not the case man, the first dude that we see on the train didn’t touch her, yet she goes crazy. When teacher at the school ACTUALLY tried to touch her - she pokerface dodges him. And somehow manages to pass AND study with the male teachers with 0 incidents of her acting like on the train, there is clearly no struggle there, she goes through easily This show, like, tries to make her look vulnerable and strong at the same time which just doesn’t work, especially with her "don’t give a fuck" personality. Feels like it’s 2 very different stories that are mixed into one. I would much rather like have those 2 entities of her split, and either watch a story of a traumatized girl overcoming her past, or a dead inside girl going into theatre school and having a romance. Mixing them into one just ruins it The first dude at the train acted extremely weird, she is probably paranoid about unknown people because of past events and dont like physical contact with strange people, is that that weird for you? I know people like this irl |
Jul 5, 2021 1:42 PM
#67
Gween_Gween said: RareWRLD said: pandemonium91 said: RareWRLD said: Ngl this is weird as fuck. Ai hates men, but not all men, but clearly speaks "no stench of men", implying they are all the same, she’s not saying "no weird men" or "no otaku men". Why? I think it would be much more logical and interesting if her trauma didn’t somehow choose which men she is okay with, and so she would be struggling with male teachers I thought it was fairly obvious that she hates men that come up to her and touch her without notice or without asking her if it'd be OK. So if she's the one initiating contact, it's not a problem. She also seems to have a stalker, the guy in the ED who says that he's finally found her, so that's most likely linked to her trauma of men as well and possibly to the reason for her quitting work as an idol. And she IS struggling with male teachers, remember how she was glad that she wouldn't have any and her uncle said there still would be male teachers? And how she didn't want to be touched by the military dude? (idk if he was a hired teacher but he was teaching them at the time) RareWRLD said: Also I don’t understand why she is going into theatre, she has no enthusiasm or motive to do so. And why would you leave being an idol to then become an actor, which has a lot of similarities especially being a social figure, which oh-oh, attracts more men! Just because we haven't seen everything in the first episode, doesn't mean it won't be explained eventually. It could be that something happened that caused her to quit being an idol (the "graduation" comment from the fan implies she was let go from her group) and her family insisted she stay in showbiz one way or another. It’s just not the case man, the first dude that we see on the train didn’t touch her, yet she goes crazy. When teacher at the school ACTUALLY tried to touch her - she pokerface dodges him. And somehow manages to pass AND study with the male teachers with 0 incidents of her acting like on the train, there is clearly no struggle there, she goes through easily This show, like, tries to make her look vulnerable and strong at the same time which just doesn’t work, especially with her "don’t give a fuck" personality. Feels like it’s 2 very different stories that are mixed into one. I would much rather like have those 2 entities of her split, and either watch a story of a traumatized girl overcoming her past, or a dead inside girl going into theatre school and having a romance. Mixing them into one just ruins it The first dude at the train acted extremely weird, she is probably paranoid about unknown people because of past events and dont like physical contact with strange people, is that that weird for you? I know people like this irl He looks into his phone, and then sees a person that is in the video he’s watching right in front of him. Tell me right now with a straight face that he acted weird by saying: "Excuse me, are you Naracchi?" |
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Jul 5, 2021 1:42 PM
#68
RareWRLD said: It’s just not the case man, the first dude that we see on the train didn’t touch her, yet she goes crazy. When teacher at the school ACTUALLY tried to touch her - she pokerface dodges him. And somehow manages to pass AND study with the male teachers with 0 incidents of her acting like on the train, there is clearly no struggle there, she goes through easily This show, like, tries to make her look vulnerable and strong at the same time which just doesn’t work, especially with her "don’t give a fuck" personality. Feels like it’s 2 very different stories that are mixed into one. I would much rather like have those 2 entities of her split, and either watch a story of a traumatized girl overcoming her past, or a dead inside girl going into theatre school and having a romance. Mixing them into one just ruins it The dude on the train obviously approached her when she didn't want to be approached. He saw that she was trying to make herself blend in with everyone and still insisted. Have you never seen celebrities not wanting to be recognized in public? Come on. It's not like she can't stand being in the same room as male teachers, she just doesn't like them coming within her personal space like that. Come on, surely you can see the distinction. It's not as black & white as you're making it out to be — proof of that is that she's OK touching her uncle if she's the one initiating the contact and if it's someone she trusts/is comfortable around. Of course someone can be vulnerable and strong at the same time. That's her personal struggle. I enjoy a more complex character rather than a girl who's 100% defined by her trauma or a girl who's "fixed" by a romance. You say "the show" but it's only been one episode, we've barely seen the characters and only know like 1-2 things about them. |
Jul 5, 2021 1:47 PM
#69
RareWRLD said: Gween_Gween said: RareWRLD said: pandemonium91 said: RareWRLD said: Ngl this is weird as fuck. Ai hates men, but not all men, but clearly speaks "no stench of men", implying they are all the same, she’s not saying "no weird men" or "no otaku men". Why? I think it would be much more logical and interesting if her trauma didn’t somehow choose which men she is okay with, and so she would be struggling with male teachers I thought it was fairly obvious that she hates men that come up to her and touch her without notice or without asking her if it'd be OK. So if she's the one initiating contact, it's not a problem. She also seems to have a stalker, the guy in the ED who says that he's finally found her, so that's most likely linked to her trauma of men as well and possibly to the reason for her quitting work as an idol. And she IS struggling with male teachers, remember how she was glad that she wouldn't have any and her uncle said there still would be male teachers? And how she didn't want to be touched by the military dude? (idk if he was a hired teacher but he was teaching them at the time) RareWRLD said: Also I don’t understand why she is going into theatre, she has no enthusiasm or motive to do so. And why would you leave being an idol to then become an actor, which has a lot of similarities especially being a social figure, which oh-oh, attracts more men! Just because we haven't seen everything in the first episode, doesn't mean it won't be explained eventually. It could be that something happened that caused her to quit being an idol (the "graduation" comment from the fan implies she was let go from her group) and her family insisted she stay in showbiz one way or another. It’s just not the case man, the first dude that we see on the train didn’t touch her, yet she goes crazy. When teacher at the school ACTUALLY tried to touch her - she pokerface dodges him. And somehow manages to pass AND study with the male teachers with 0 incidents of her acting like on the train, there is clearly no struggle there, she goes through easily This show, like, tries to make her look vulnerable and strong at the same time which just doesn’t work, especially with her "don’t give a fuck" personality. Feels like it’s 2 very different stories that are mixed into one. I would much rather like have those 2 entities of her split, and either watch a story of a traumatized girl overcoming her past, or a dead inside girl going into theatre school and having a romance. Mixing them into one just ruins it The first dude at the train acted extremely weird, she is probably paranoid about unknown people because of past events and dont like physical contact with strange people, is that that weird for you? I know people like this irl He looks into his phone, and then sees a person that is in the video he’s watching right in front of him. Tell me right now with a straight face that he acted weird by saying: "Excuse me, are you Naracchi?" You doing the same in that situation doesnt make it less weird, she was obviously trying to not be noticed by her own body language. It is not that hard to notice those things unless you don't care about other people at all |
Jul 5, 2021 2:22 PM
#70
pandemonium91 said: RareWRLD said: It’s just not the case man, the first dude that we see on the train didn’t touch her, yet she goes crazy. When teacher at the school ACTUALLY tried to touch her - she pokerface dodges him. And somehow manages to pass AND study with the male teachers with 0 incidents of her acting like on the train, there is clearly no struggle there, she goes through easily This show, like, tries to make her look vulnerable and strong at the same time which just doesn’t work, especially with her "don’t give a fuck" personality. Feels like it’s 2 very different stories that are mixed into one. I would much rather like have those 2 entities of her split, and either watch a story of a traumatized girl overcoming her past, or a dead inside girl going into theatre school and having a romance. Mixing them into one just ruins it The dude on the train obviously approached her when she didn't want to be approached. He saw that she was trying to make herself blend in with everyone and still insisted. Have you never seen celebrities not wanting to be recognized in public? Come on. It's not like she can't stand being in the same room as male teachers, she just doesn't like them coming within her personal space like that. Come on, surely you can see the distinction. It's not as black & white as you're making it out to be — proof of that is that she's OK touching her uncle if she's the one initiating the contact and if it's someone she trusts/is comfortable around. Of course someone can be vulnerable and strong at the same time. That's her personal struggle. I enjoy a more complex character rather than a girl who's 100% defined by her trauma or a girl who's "fixed" by a romance. You say "the show" but it's only been one episode, we've barely seen the characters and only know like 1-2 things about them. Why are you even implying any negative thoughts for this guy when all he did was ask for a name and then immediately stop after she jumped? I already thought it was fucked up how he did nothing and then the story paints him in a bad color, and now you people are actually coloring him a weirdo for literally nothing. "He saw her blend in" yeah right it’s not like people can think she acts shy right?? And as of teachers, again, she is strong enough to pass and study around men, which is a full fledged life in there with all the interactions (including personal space ones) , she brushes one of them off with a terminator face, but goes crazy when a man askes for her NAME. If you don’t see the contradictions then there is nothing I cal tell you Yes I know that deep characters are better, but it’ such a low percent of good deep characters in anime, that all I am expecting when watching something new is just a one gimmick character done right. To me Ai fails to be a deep character, thats why I would rather have a simple character done good in her place. The anime still can retaliate and do better, but to me the first episode is a very important criteria, on which I base my expectations and let the anime follow them or deny them. That’s just how I do things with seasonal anime Gween_Gween said: RareWRLD said: Gween_Gween said: RareWRLD said: pandemonium91 said: RareWRLD said: Ngl this is weird as fuck. Ai hates men, but not all men, but clearly speaks "no stench of men", implying they are all the same, she’s not saying "no weird men" or "no otaku men". Why? I think it would be much more logical and interesting if her trauma didn’t somehow choose which men she is okay with, and so she would be struggling with male teachers I thought it was fairly obvious that she hates men that come up to her and touch her without notice or without asking her if it'd be OK. So if she's the one initiating contact, it's not a problem. She also seems to have a stalker, the guy in the ED who says that he's finally found her, so that's most likely linked to her trauma of men as well and possibly to the reason for her quitting work as an idol. And she IS struggling with male teachers, remember how she was glad that she wouldn't have any and her uncle said there still would be male teachers? And how she didn't want to be touched by the military dude? (idk if he was a hired teacher but he was teaching them at the time) RareWRLD said: Also I don’t understand why she is going into theatre, she has no enthusiasm or motive to do so. And why would you leave being an idol to then become an actor, which has a lot of similarities especially being a social figure, which oh-oh, attracts more men! Just because we haven't seen everything in the first episode, doesn't mean it won't be explained eventually. It could be that something happened that caused her to quit being an idol (the "graduation" comment from the fan implies she was let go from her group) and her family insisted she stay in showbiz one way or another. It’s just not the case man, the first dude that we see on the train didn’t touch her, yet she goes crazy. When teacher at the school ACTUALLY tried to touch her - she pokerface dodges him. And somehow manages to pass AND study with the male teachers with 0 incidents of her acting like on the train, there is clearly no struggle there, she goes through easily This show, like, tries to make her look vulnerable and strong at the same time which just doesn’t work, especially with her "don’t give a fuck" personality. Feels like it’s 2 very different stories that are mixed into one. I would much rather like have those 2 entities of her split, and either watch a story of a traumatized girl overcoming her past, or a dead inside girl going into theatre school and having a romance. Mixing them into one just ruins it The first dude at the train acted extremely weird, she is probably paranoid about unknown people because of past events and dont like physical contact with strange people, is that that weird for you? I know people like this irl He looks into his phone, and then sees a person that is in the video he’s watching right in front of him. Tell me right now with a straight face that he acted weird by saying: "Excuse me, are you Naracchi?" You doing the same in that situation doesnt make it less weird, she was obviously trying to not be noticed by her own body language. It is not that hard to notice those things unless you don't care about other people at all Body language my ass. Do you know how incredibly sensitive you must be to so easily distinct discomfort from simple shyness? You can care about other people A LOT and still not be able to see through this. That guy could be caring of his grandparents, working for a foster home, collecting trash on the streets, and STILL not feel the very thin line between shyness and discomfort, to then ask for an idol name. That doesn’t make a person weird or careless. She has a right to think of him as weird because of her brain fuming but he is definitely not a weird person for asking a goddamn name of the celebrity. Stop the cap Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
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Jul 5, 2021 2:41 PM
#71
RareWRLD said: Gween_Gween said: RareWRLD said: Gween_Gween said: RareWRLD said: pandemonium91 said: RareWRLD said: Ngl this is weird as fuck. Ai hates men, but not all men, but clearly speaks "no stench of men", implying they are all the same, she’s not saying "no weird men" or "no otaku men". Why? I think it would be much more logical and interesting if her trauma didn’t somehow choose which men she is okay with, and so she would be struggling with male teachers I thought it was fairly obvious that she hates men that come up to her and touch her without notice or without asking her if it'd be OK. So if she's the one initiating contact, it's not a problem. She also seems to have a stalker, the guy in the ED who says that he's finally found her, so that's most likely linked to her trauma of men as well and possibly to the reason for her quitting work as an idol. And she IS struggling with male teachers, remember how she was glad that she wouldn't have any and her uncle said there still would be male teachers? And how she didn't want to be touched by the military dude? (idk if he was a hired teacher but he was teaching them at the time) RareWRLD said: Also I don’t understand why she is going into theatre, she has no enthusiasm or motive to do so. And why would you leave being an idol to then become an actor, which has a lot of similarities especially being a social figure, which oh-oh, attracts more men! Just because we haven't seen everything in the first episode, doesn't mean it won't be explained eventually. It could be that something happened that caused her to quit being an idol (the "graduation" comment from the fan implies she was let go from her group) and her family insisted she stay in showbiz one way or another. It’s just not the case man, the first dude that we see on the train didn’t touch her, yet she goes crazy. When teacher at the school ACTUALLY tried to touch her - she pokerface dodges him. And somehow manages to pass AND study with the male teachers with 0 incidents of her acting like on the train, there is clearly no struggle there, she goes through easily This show, like, tries to make her look vulnerable and strong at the same time which just doesn’t work, especially with her "don’t give a fuck" personality. Feels like it’s 2 very different stories that are mixed into one. I would much rather like have those 2 entities of her split, and either watch a story of a traumatized girl overcoming her past, or a dead inside girl going into theatre school and having a romance. Mixing them into one just ruins it The first dude at the train acted extremely weird, she is probably paranoid about unknown people because of past events and dont like physical contact with strange people, is that that weird for you? I know people like this irl He looks into his phone, and then sees a person that is in the video he’s watching right in front of him. Tell me right now with a straight face that he acted weird by saying: "Excuse me, are you Naracchi?" You doing the same in that situation doesnt make it less weird, she was obviously trying to not be noticed by her own body language. It is not that hard to notice those things unless you don't care about other people at all Body language my ass. Do you know how incredibly sensitive you must be to so easily distinct discomfort from simple shyness? You can care about other people A LOT and still not be able to see through this. That guy could be caring of his grandparents, working for a foster home, collecting trash on the streets, and STILL not feel the very thin line between shyness and discomfort, to then ask for an idol name. That doesn’t make a person weird or careless. She has a right to think of him as weird because of her brain fuming but he is definitely not a weird person for asking a goddamn name of the celebrity. Stop the cap ok chill dude i know that i personally attacked you, can you give me the name of the celebrity that you asked the name of |
Jul 5, 2021 3:24 PM
#72
RareWRLD said: Why are you even implying any negative thoughts for this guy when all he did was ask for a name and then immediately stop after she jumped? I already thought it was fucked up how he did nothing and then the story paints him in a bad color, and now you people are actually coloring him a weirdo for literally nothing. "He saw her blend in" yeah right it’s not like people can think she acts shy right?? And as of teachers, again, she is strong enough to pass and study around men, which is a full fledged life in there with all the interactions (including personal space ones) , she brushes one of them off with a terminator face, but goes crazy when a man askes for her NAME. If you don’t see the contradictions then there is nothing I cal tell you Yes I know that deep characters are better, but it’ such a low percent of good deep characters in anime, that all I am expecting when watching something new is just a one gimmick character done right. To me Ai fails to be a deep character, thats why I would rather have a simple character done good in her place. The anime still can retaliate and do better, but to me the first episode is a very important criteria, on which I base my expectations and let the anime follow them or deny them. That’s just how I do things with seasonal anime I never implied negative thoughts or that this guy planned to hurt her. But I saw in your reply to that other person that you're writing a whole backstory for this random dude where he's somehow so nice and she's such a bitch for not talking to him, lmao. She was a celebrity who wanted to be left alone and he insisted to talk to her; for whatever reason, she didn't feel like dealing with fans right then. Maybe she'd had a bad experience with a pushy fan before and didn't know if he'd escalate. It's hardly unusual for a celebrity. Don't tell me you haven't heard horror stories from celebrities (especially Japanese and Korean idols) dealing with crazy fans. Why would she take the chance of him being "nice"? You don't distinguish between her being approached by a stranger in public (whose intentions she didn't know) versus her being in a classroom with a male teacher? Really? Again you're making it seem like she either needs to hate all men OR be OK with all men, and again I'm telling you that it's not black or white. If she were a poorly written character, then sure, she'd hate ALL men, but the fact that she distinguishes between them means she's written in an acceptable way (so far, at least). What you "expect" from a character/anime is your problem. Maybe you're so caught up in "expecting" a specific character that you're not seeing things that are actually there. I understand the importance of the first impression, just...it looks like you completely misunderstood the point of the scenes she had with men. |
Jul 5, 2021 4:22 PM
#73
pandemonium91 said: RareWRLD said: Why are you even implying any negative thoughts for this guy when all he did was ask for a name and then immediately stop after she jumped? I already thought it was fucked up how he did nothing and then the story paints him in a bad color, and now you people are actually coloring him a weirdo for literally nothing. "He saw her blend in" yeah right it’s not like people can think she acts shy right?? And as of teachers, again, she is strong enough to pass and study around men, which is a full fledged life in there with all the interactions (including personal space ones) , she brushes one of them off with a terminator face, but goes crazy when a man askes for her NAME. If you don’t see the contradictions then there is nothing I cal tell you Yes I know that deep characters are better, but it’ such a low percent of good deep characters in anime, that all I am expecting when watching something new is just a one gimmick character done right. To me Ai fails to be a deep character, thats why I would rather have a simple character done good in her place. The anime still can retaliate and do better, but to me the first episode is a very important criteria, on which I base my expectations and let the anime follow them or deny them. That’s just how I do things with seasonal anime I never implied negative thoughts or that this guy planned to hurt her. But I saw in your reply to that other person that you're writing a whole backstory for this random dude where he's somehow so nice and she's such a bitch for not talking to him, lmao. She was a celebrity who wanted to be left alone and he insisted to talk to her; for whatever reason, she didn't feel like dealing with fans right then. Maybe she'd had a bad experience with a pushy fan before and didn't know if he'd escalate. It's hardly unusual for a celebrity. Don't tell me you haven't heard horror stories from celebrities (especially Japanese and Korean idols) dealing with crazy fans. Why would she take the chance of him being "nice"? You don't distinguish between her being approached by a stranger in public (whose intentions she didn't know) versus her being in a classroom with a male teacher? Really? Again you're making it seem like she either needs to hate all men OR be OK with all men, and again I'm telling you that it's not black or white. If she were a poorly written character, then sure, she'd hate ALL men, but the fact that she distinguishes between them means she's written in an acceptable way (so far, at least). What you "expect" from a character/anime is your problem. Maybe you're so caught up in "expecting" a specific character that you're not seeing things that are actually there. I understand the importance of the first impression, just...it looks like you completely misunderstood the point of the scenes she had with men. I never once said that she is a bitch and must interact with him at all, what are you smoking? I said it’s a contradiction how she sprints a marathon away after he asked for her name, but then acts cool in the academy. And then this idiot on the forum calls train dude weird and careless for no reason, so of course I wrote a backstory, to draw a picture of a guy who cares about other people but is not reading everyone’s mind perfectly. Because one does not equal the other, and he’s not a careless weirdo for asking her fucking name. I am not denying her trauma dude, all the stuff that you write about trauma - I get it, it’s just that her trauma does not make train dude guilty of anything, do you really not agree? I don’t really care is she hates all men or not, I care about her trauma conveniently disappearing. You don’t choose when your trauma bursts that’s just not how it works, that’s just bad writing. It is not a character being deep, its a character contradiction. If you have Ptsd you cant turn it off by "Let me logically think, the world is not just black and white, these teachers are good people" Ignore the expectations stuff, I was just thinking we were having a friendlier discussion rather than just arguing so thats why I wanted to share about it. |
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Jul 5, 2021 5:57 PM
#75
Well, that was one hell of a good first episode and it got me really excited about this anime. It was also a nice surprise to hear Wakamoto Norio voicing one of the characters, I thought he had retired because its been ages since I last heard his voice on an anime. As for the shitshow in this comment section...can't say I'm surprised, this is MAL after all ¬_¬ |
Jul 5, 2021 9:01 PM
#76
Ah, yes, all-girls act troupe. How can i dislike them. More importantly with their vas list, even got the same twin vas on their list. Dedication. Honestly this is far exceed my expectation. I thought this will be a classical anime with the idol/and acting troupe as its main theme. However, its looks like its just the art and animation style and design that make this like classic anime. Good surprise. I already enjoy their funny interaction so far. Watanabe surely a genki girl. Then the blue hair girl must be hard around those creep, real fuckin creep. No wonder she was like that. Hopefully those two can hold a great chemistry, and well, resulting a good act, in the end of the show. Lets see.... |
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Jul 5, 2021 10:07 PM
#77
well iam gonna watch for that giant girl. she's got some guts and had a charming personality. |
Jul 5, 2021 10:41 PM
#78
Although more lighthearted from what I was anticipating, I still found this first episode quite interesting. Got major Revue Starlight vibes from this but that's mostly because of the notorious Takarazuka Revue inspiration/influence in the script. Not to mention that this time, the show will most likely feature a more realistic approach. This said, I'm not sure how serious the issue with Ai's stalker will be but I hope it doesn't take the whole season to be dealt with. Not really a fan of side-plots involving creepy dudes being overly obsessed with teenage girls, to be honest. |
Jul 5, 2021 11:01 PM
#79
Interesting! Sarasa was so bubbly, I like her, especially that cotton candy hair. Looks cute and fluffy. I like the coloring, light and used a lot of pink. |
Jul 5, 2021 11:52 PM
#80
Looking good, I have high expectations. Sarasa-san is a good mc for me, I dont like clumsy characters when they really do dumb stuff, but she looks better than that. Until I got more info about Ai's background, I wont be able to like her character, more if her reason to hate men is some bs with no logic. |
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Jul 6, 2021 2:28 AM
#81
RareWRLD said: Ngl this is weird as fuck. Ai hates men, but not all men, but clearly speaks "no stench of men", implying they are all the same, she’s not saying "no weird men" or "no otaku men". Why? I think it would be much more logical and interesting if her trauma didn’t somehow choose which men she is okay with, and so she would be struggling with male teachers and Sarasa would cheer her on and help her mind heal. Also I don’t understand why she is going into theatre, she has no enthusiasm or motive to do so. And why would you leave being an idol to then become an actor, which has a lot of similarities especially being a social figure, which oh-oh, attracts more men! Or is the theater actually only visited by women who fall in love with each other? And don’t even get me started on this dumb shit where it’s the academy of "unmarried woman" or some shit like that. I personally can’t stand this whole idea of virgin purity. Treating the academy with such a name seriously would be catering to weird men actually, so hopefully Ai rises a riot or I’m not rating this highly Well, somehow this whole thing with purity is considered harmless if it is intended for a female audience who enjoys the illusion of ideal men in the face of androgynous women. |
Jul 6, 2021 7:44 AM
#82
I loved this! It's weird, it's quirky, it's funny - episode 1 definitely made me want to watch more. I hope the series pans out to be an enjoyable one. Sarasa is the character I gravitate towards, so I can't wait to cheer her on. |
Jul 6, 2021 7:43 PM
#83
Theater anime sure has been a trend lately. I like the tall girl. |
Jul 7, 2021 10:34 AM
#84
ai is cute and a total bitch. definitely best from this season so far. |
Jul 8, 2021 6:21 AM
#85
I like this anime. It has a lot of potential and I think Sawasa is going to whoop some stalkers ass! |
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Jul 8, 2021 2:16 PM
#86
I am confused, what was even happening at the end of the episode???? |
Jul 8, 2021 10:20 PM
#87
Really digging the show! The art is a little rough at times, but doesn’t bother me. The army guy saying “hot damn, you’re tall” cracked me up |
Jul 9, 2021 6:46 AM
#88
just 7 minutes into the episode, it's not my cup of tea. if I'm watching an all girls school type of show, I prefer the show to be all girls (and maybe one giraffe. lol) like Revue Starlight. And not have a ton of guys like this show is doing. watched it today in dvd player. At around 8 minutes my pet cat lay down on the cord pulling the plug - I then thanked it for helping me drop the show. easiest drop for the new season. |
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Jul 9, 2021 6:52 AM
#89
Liddo-kun said: just 7 minutes into the episode, it's not my cup of tea. if I'm watching an all girls school type of show, I prefer the show to be all girls (and maybe one giraffe. lol) like Revue Starlight. And not have a ton of guys like this show is doing. watched it today in dvd player. At around 8 minutes my pet cat lay down on the cord pulling the plug - I then thanked it for helping me drop the show. easiest drop for the new season. 1/10 You're confusing shows that use all-female cast for fanservice and special premise. It's a shoujo franchise that didn't even try to be a Girl's Zoo like Revue. However, if you are ready to drop the show just because of this, then I think that it is useless for me to try to explain something. |
Jul 9, 2021 10:49 AM
#90
it's the first episode that i most enjoyed watching, i love sarasa and ai! probably it will be my favorite anime from this season ~ |
Jul 9, 2021 12:18 PM
#91
Good start, but the pacing is too fast, i hope they had slowed down it a bit The girl's character design are good! Especially the tall girl, she is such a waifu. Ehem.. but overall the artstyle are great Am i hallucinating here, or is it the VA are the same from Yuru camp? |
Jul 10, 2021 3:17 AM
#92
So Sarasa is a natural Otoko-yaku, huh!? I mean, if she really came from a Kabuki family, that was a literal 180 from Takarazuka. Takarazuka is an all-female group who sometimes plays a male char (Otoko-yaku), while on the other hand a Kabuki is an all-male group who sometimes play in "drag" as a female char (Onna-gata). |
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Jul 10, 2021 4:51 AM
#93
A really solid first episode, the characters are interesting but my favorite is the tall girl. |
Jul 11, 2021 7:19 AM
#94
Jul 12, 2021 6:56 AM
#95
Enjoyed the first episode, why is the rating so low for this? |
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Jul 13, 2021 4:39 AM
#96
Good thing I decided to watch it or else I would've missed a really good show. It's so interesting, this is my first time watching a theatrical themed anime. The mc Sarasa is such a likeable character. Really like her personality. She would get along with anybody. She's really tall too, a whole 8cm taller than me XD Sarasa and the commander's interaction was so funny. And how she called the commander again saying she wasn't ready before, what she did was so commendable. About the other mc Ai, how she gets annoyed from a simple touch on the shoulder by men, that attitude kinda bothers me. I can understand she has her own reasons, obsessive fans from her past idol career but she could handle it in a different way...if you're that popular why not use a car, if you have to use the subway then at least wear a hoody jacket to cover your hair. Just wearing a mask doesn't entirely hide your identity. I'm hoping in the coming episodes Ai has a proper character development that'll make her more likeable. That Taichi was actually Ai's uncle...I thought something else XD |
Jul 13, 2021 4:23 PM
#97
it's very difficult to make an anime about Takarazuka, I'm already losing hope. Right in the first episode I've seen that he won't be able to demonstrate this art. The character designer is lazy, we have here a short girl with short grace slack and a giant with a horrible hairstyle on her head. In Takarazuka's show, in its heyday, elegant, beautiful, beautiful, unheaded and badly designed girls are shown. They're not pretty like the cover, the cover cheats. the main characters are very stereotypical, is an annoying extrovert and an introverted who gets angry with everything and does not like to be touched. Outside that the anime is about Takarazuka and I saw nothing, just a mention of 15 seconds at the beginning of the episode to introduce the universe. I dropped it, next. |
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Jul 22, 2021 12:53 AM
#98
I swear the VA cast for this show is listed incorrectly, as a lot of Sarasa's intonations sound very much like Yumiri Hanamori (i.e. very similar to her performances as Nadeshiko in Yuru Camp and Shin Sato in IM@S Cinderella Girls), while Ai sounds absolutely nothing like her at all with her super deep and cynical voice. |
Jul 26, 2021 7:13 PM
#99
Jang Wonyoung is that you? |
Jul 29, 2021 6:35 AM
#100
When will people stop naming something yuri bait just because the cast of an anime is mostly females or when something shoujo bait or BL bait just because of two male leads etc |
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