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| Ooishis voice actor changed, why? Loved the former one. Did no one notice this? |
I think that may have been the manga, which has some alterations both in Kai and Rei. |
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GatsuLTU said: Ooishis voice actor changed, why? Loved the former one. Did no one notice this? Don't think it actually did. The credits still list Chafurin as his VA, same as always. |
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GatsuLTU said: Ooishis voice actor changed, why? Loved the former one. Did no one notice this? it's the same VA.. |
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ssjokg said: That face Mion did when her mother got to close to Kei-chan. It is a same that we all know how badly this will end and the wait for how different the end will be is killing me. Tbh, compared to the others arcs, is painful, in a bad way, to watch because all of this ends up being completely pointless. While it greatly adds in the lore and the character, what is supposed to be its core feels like filler till the bad end and the reveal arrive. Tsukumo_Yuuma said: ssjokg said: . Tbh, compared to the others arcs, is painful, in a bad way, to watch because all of this ends up being completely pointless. While it greatly adds in the lore and the character, what is supposed to be its core feels like filler till the bad end and the reveal arrive. Oh man, I can't disagree more guys. As much as I want to see how this arc will differ from Tatari/Minagoroshi, I'm loving seeing some of my favorite scenes from Minagaroshi (like Shion's chair and Keiichi threatening Oryo) get readapted like this. In fact, it's scenes like this that make me low-key wish GOU is successful enough that they consider an actual straight remake. |
astroprogs said: ssjokg said: That face Mion did when her mother got to close to Kei-chan. It is a same that we all know how badly this will end and the wait for how different the end will be is killing me. Tbh, compared to the others arcs, is painful, in a bad way, to watch because all of this ends up being completely pointless. While it greatly adds in the lore and the character, what is supposed to be its core feels like filler till the bad end and the reveal arrive. Oh man, I can't disagree more guys. As much as I want to see how this arc will differ from Tatari/Minagoroshi, I'm loving seeing some of my favorite scenes from Minagaroshi (like Shion's chair and Keiichi threatening Oryo) get readapted like this. In fact, it's scenes like this that make me low-key wish GOU is successful enough that they consider an actual straight remake. You arent wrong. And this is the problem. Even tho Minagoroshi is so important the way it is set up/executed makes you think that everything you read till the "two pieces" was filler. I believe that Minagoroshi would be better if it was treated like anime Tsumihoroboshi(not sure how the VN did it I just know that Rena survives only in the anime and is used later in ep 1 of Kai). Show them succeed and then make it apparent that it wasnt enough. Just dont make it a . Watching them all work together, succeeding only to lose it all, leaves a worse taste in my mouth than the other dead ends or Umineko EP7. |
| Keiichi really has balls of steel to threaten to kill the yakuza grandma twice. I'm just glad that everything is working out so far. I wonder if they're gonna be able to succeed next episode, or if something else is gonna throw a wrench into their plans. We haven't even seen satoko at all this episode! |
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random_weirdo said: ssjokg said: You arent wrong. And this is the problem. Even tho Minagoroshi is so important the way it is set up/executed makes you think that everything you read till the "two pieces" was filler. I believe that Minagoroshi would be better if it was treated like anime Tsumihoroboshi(not sure how the VN did it I just know that Rena survives only in the anime and is used later in ep 1 of Kai). Show them succeed and then make it apparent that it wasnt enough. Just dont make it a . Watching them all work together, succeeding only to lose it all, leaves a worse taste in my mouth than the other dead ends or Umineko EP7. I don't know, I felt much more like I was reading/watching filler during Onikakushi and Watanagashi's SoL moments than during any part of Minagoroshi. I know many of those scenes actually foreshadow events or show character personalities, but Minagoroshi's struggle to save Satoko and seeing all those relationships the main cast had built over 6 arcs finally bear fruit, then seeing the biggest solutions to the mystery, then hoping that Rika and friends would make it only to see their heartbreaking end, not to mention the village's end... I was really invested through it all. Never got bored. Maybe using the word filler was a bad choice. I didn't feel bored either. I only felt that it was pointless(or filler as I said) only after I finished it and realized what just happened. |
random_weirdo said: ssjokg said: You arent wrong. And this is the problem. Even tho Minagoroshi is so important the way it is set up/executed makes you think that everything you read till the "two pieces" was filler. I believe that Minagoroshi would be better if it was treated like anime Tsumihoroboshi(not sure how the VN did it I just know that Rena survives only in the anime and is used later in ep 1 of Kai). Show them succeed and then make it apparent that it wasnt enough. Just dont make it a . Watching them all work together, succeeding only to lose it all, leaves a worse taste in my mouth than the other dead ends or Umineko EP7. I don't know, I felt much more like I was reading/watching filler during Onikakushi and Watanagashi's SoL moments than during any part of Minagoroshi. I know many of those scenes actually foreshadow events or show character personalities, but Minagoroshi's struggle to save Satoko and seeing all those relationships the main cast had built over 6 arcs finally bear fruit, then seeing the biggest solutions to the mystery, then hoping that Rika and friends would make it only to see their heartbreaking end, not to mention the village's end... I was really invested through it all. Never got bored. My only problem with Mina is that they took TOO MUCH TIME (i only read the VN, maybe the anime was faster), like 80% of the arc was about saving Satoko, they go to the CWS have some talk, they say no, K1 goes to get more people and then repeat x100 (not to mention that he had another cringy scene with Kameda where they started referencing other games or smth for 10mins or so), if the rescue thing thing was shorter a day or two it would've been much better imo (because we already got what R07 wanted to say but he just kept it going) + (i don't like some scenes like Keiichi and Rena hitting an old man in front of everybody). ps: I love every Higurashi arc i'm not saying Mina was bad, but it could've been better. |
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random_weirdo said: ssjokg said: You arent wrong. And this is the problem. Even tho Minagoroshi is so important the way it is set up/executed makes you think that everything you read till the "two pieces" was filler. I believe that Minagoroshi would be better if it was treated like anime Tsumihoroboshi(not sure how the VN did it I just know that Rena survives only in the anime and is used later in ep 1 of Kai). Show them succeed and then make it apparent that it wasnt enough. Just dont make it a . Watching them all work together, succeeding only to lose it all, leaves a worse taste in my mouth than the other dead ends or Umineko EP7. I don't know, I felt much more like I was reading/watching filler during Onikakushi and Watanagashi's SoL moments than during any part of Minagoroshi. I know many of those scenes actually foreshadow events or show character personalities, but Minagoroshi's struggle to save Satoko and seeing all those relationships the main cast had built over 6 arcs finally bear fruit, then seeing the biggest solutions to the mystery, then hoping that Rika and friends would make it only to see their heartbreaking end, not to mention the village's end... I was really invested through it all. Never got bored. I just checked, the anime took about 3~4 episodes for saving Satoko and stuff, in the VN it took about 8~10 hours, so that's why i'm saying it could've been better if it was shorter. |
Tsukumo_YuumaDec 17, 2020 3:40 PM
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random_weirdo said: ssjokg said: Maybe using the word filler was a bad choice. I didn't feel bored either. I only felt that it was pointless(or filler as I said) only after I finished it and realized what just happened. Ok, I can see where you're coming from. That's how I felt after reading the aptly named Himatsubushi... Weirdly enough that along with the anime original ep1 of Kai are some my favourite parts of Higurashi. |
| They can finally save Satoko I really feel bad for her, I hope it will went well. Luckily they were able to get that old woman a yes so looking forward to it. |
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| wow K1 got a juicy ass. |
| Wow that episode felt like 5 minutes. When God's syndrome started playing I checked the time because I didn't think it was already over. I love Akane and Oryou's new design. |
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| Ahh.. the fuking old granny i always hated is here xd Well, Keiichi was the mvp this episode, his speeches, i must say, really well thought of. He says everything RIGHT, he literally says the things that need to be said during the situation at hand. And now he managed to convince the sttuborn villagers, nicee. As for the fuking granny, wasn't easy at the beginning because of Satoko being a Hojo and judging her just because of her name (same as the villagers), but Keiichi once again strikes with the genious speech. Well done my man, now lets see if you can change these course of events. Rika's last sentence tho :) interesting ^^ Waiting for next week! |
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| alright this fucking babaa forgot about her was like KEIICH-kUN go off! throw some hands and then he almost got to it lol, still about ready for this arc to end though |
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| Man, I love Rena. She was great this episode and of course our boy Keiichi. So far, this has pretty much been Minagoroshi but, there's definitely going to be some big revelations next episode assuming its only 5 chapters which it most likely is and I can't fucking wait for next episode. |
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| this show is stupid |
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| Keiichi, my man. The balls he grew during this arc have no comparison. His speeches, he was about to go full hands with an entire Yakuza group for Satoko and even ended up with a milf looking his way. B r a v o. Such a shame it seems things will still end up backfiring somehow considering how awfully optimistic everything has gone so far. I mean, Satoko didn't even show up this episode so she might as well be dead right now. Who knows. Anyways, another strong episode. Looking forward to seeing how cruel the twist will be next week. |
| The possible way this might end badly is either Satoko says no or already dead for some reason. Either way, can't wait to see how this turns out and finally move to a new arc. Hopefully an original one. |
| Interesting deviation from Tatarigoroshi-hen!!! I can't believe they're pretty much skipping Tatarigoroshi plot and going straight into Minagoroshi. They're trying to ffw some of the plot, and I expect the real change like what we saw in the key visual Honestly, I like it better like this — that way, first-time viewers get to the Answer arc right away and rewatchers get to look forward to some new content. That has me excited for what's to come! |
herricklukDec 18, 2020 12:20 AM
TKNion said: I really dislike Satoko's bratty nature and Satoshi is just boring in general so I didn't like this arc even in the original. This time it's even worse because there's no payout. astroprogs said: I can't begin to describe how satisfying it is to see the gang (especially Keiichi) divert from the cruelty fest of Watanagshi, Meakashi, Tatartigoroshi, and Tsumihoroboshi and come out on top. We've had no cruelty fest to divert from in this anime. In gou we've only had a watered down Onikakushi with almost no scenes that make you care for the characters or scenes that show K1 going full paranoia (which was the really disturbing part of that arc and the thing that hooked most people into higurashi) and a watered down Watanagashi with again not many scenes that make you care for the characters and underwhelming violence. This show has no high and lows so this snore-fest of an arc is just terrible, even if they rushed it. The only time this episode got me to smile was when K1 told Rika "Please stop it with the unmei crap, you've been making me cringe for 3 episodes now." But this is exactly why Tataridamashi is a question arc, not an answer arc. I was talking about the actual full-blown Minagoroshi, which this is not. We've only been on Satoko's part here. Minagoroshi actually tried to solve all the previous arcs and so it's understandably long and cathartic and needed the ingredients the previous arc presented. On the other hand, Tataridamashi is a question arc, so it doesn't try to solve the previous arcs. Tataridamashi is clearly about Rika and Keiichi trying to shortcut Tatarigoroshi into Minagoroshi and failing miserably. It doesn't divert from previous cruelty fests because it doesn't try it. That's not the point of the arc. They aren't trying to achieve the same thing. I think it's safe to say that the answer arcs of GOU are going to be different from the original. We've already seen those arcs get resolved before. We're not going to see them get resolved the same way again when there's clearly a new element throwing a wrench in the works. ssjokg said: astroprogs said: Oh man, I can't disagree more guys. As much as I want to see how this arc will differ from Tatari/Minagoroshi, I'm loving seeing some of my favorite scenes from Minagaroshi (like Shion's chair and Keiichi threatening Oryo) get readapted like this. In fact, it's scenes like this that make me low-key wish GOU is successful enough that they consider an actual straight remake. You arent wrong. And this is the problem. Even tho Minagoroshi is so important the way it is set up/executed makes you think that everything you read till the "two pieces" was filler. I believe that Minagoroshi would be better if it was treated like anime Tsumihoroboshi(not sure how the VN did it I just know that Rena survives only in the anime and is used later in ep 1 of Kai). Show them succeed and then make it apparent that it wasnt enough. Just dont make it a . Watching them all work together, succeeding only to lose it all, leaves a worse taste in my mouth than the other dead ends or Umineko EP7. That'd take away from the last arc, though. It'd no longer be about escaping this unbelievably cruel fate, but about not letting that one or two characters die. It can't be this close to a complete victory. Not to mention, their actions led to the murderer revealing themselves in full to them. This meant that they all had to die. It doesn't make sense for the story or the character to let any of them live with that knowledge. If there were to be a next arc, the gang had to lose. And if the gang had to lose while revealing the murderer's identity they all HAD to die. Minagoroshi solves the previous arcs. All of those events prior to the final reveal have to happen because they're the payoff to the other arcs. Not the reveal. Not Hanyuu's cooperation. But those events. They're not pointless, and they're not filler. Without them happening, the previous arc would remain cruel for cruelty's sake. Defeating the murderer is just one part of the payoff of Higurashi. |
astroprogsDec 18, 2020 2:09 AM
| Really just love the scenes when Rika intervenes and calls everyone including the elders by their name withno honorifics. It's like she "ranks" above everyone else. Or that she just views them all the same, beneath her. lol Loved this episode. Lot's of K1 aggression which I like especially with the Oryu. Can't wait to see how it will all fall apart next episode ;) |
| I wonder what first time watchers thought of this episode and this arc. I'm alright with it but... i gotta say, i still prefer the way the original series went, if only because it was more exciting. |
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| like, imagine this is your first time watching higurashi. this is supposedly a horror anime. but then suddenly we went into a lengthy and very dry, strange protest movement to get CPS to take a case seriously, trying to get the support of characters we have literally never seen before. i can only imagine your reaction would be: xull said: this show is stupid I can't even fault this reaction, it's completely understandable. I am still so opposed to the creator saying you don't need to see the first season to get into this season. I think I'm even to the point of going this season was a mistake. It's completely unnecessary and makes Higurashi look... Really mediocre actually.. |
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| Child Support still useless as before... Keiichi once again with his Great Speach, successfully convinc Kimiyoshi and the villagers to helps satoko.. God damn Oryo baba are fcking annoying... Very Intense moment with Keiichi vs Oryo.. Keiichi is a Savage and don't give a fck. Holy shit, he want to smash her head LMAO Finally got approval from Oryo Baba, now we can do something... Let's help Satoko-chan Destiny can be Broken, Thanks to Keiichi... Closed the Episode with Nipaa 😊 First Arc with 5 Episodes... I think next week is the end.. |
davidyodo24Dec 18, 2020 8:27 AM
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FragOutFire said: like, imagine this is your first time watching higurashi. this is supposedly a horror anime. but then suddenly we went into a lengthy and very dry, strange protest movement to get CPS to take a case seriously, trying to get the support of characters we have literally never seen before. i can only imagine your reaction would be: We already have horror elements in previous arc, but also Higurashi not just about horror... There is many tags on the genre... I think at this point if you care about the characters like i do, you would not thinking about only horror anymore... Satoko-chan " we have literally never seen before?" |
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ChetanS said: So KEIICHI & friends have somehow convinced the elders & MION's grandma. It's always during such times, something unexpected happens. The ending song is my favorite part. Hell yeah i feel like the ending really fit to be an ending song... |
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I said put yourself in the shoes of new viewers. Why would new viewers care anything about the politics of the town? "I thought this show was supposed to be scary, why are spending several episodes on this boring stuff?" This is the first time new viewers would see the Sonozaki matriarch, the mayor and the town council, but they have not been given a reason to care about any of these characters. This town's dynamics wouldn't even make sense to new viewers of this series, "why do we need to get permission of this yakuza woman to go to CPS?" This show is missing nuance. It's missing foundation. It's missing suspense. Because it already assumes the viewer is familiar with the story. |
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FragOutFire said: I said put yourself in the shoes of new viewers. Why would new viewers care anything about the politics of the town? "I thought this show was supposed to be scary, why are spending several episodes on this boring stuff?" This is the first time new viewers would see the Sonozaki matriarch, the mayor and the town council, but they have not been given a reason to care about any of these characters. This town's dynamics wouldn't even make sense to new viewers of this series, "why do we need to get permission of this yakuza woman to go to CPS?" This show is missing nuance. It's missing foundation. It's missing suspense. Because it already assumes the viewer is familiar with the story. Ah I see, i miss read that... My bad.. Higurashi Questions Arc a mean to be confusing... Even when I'm watching the original i feel the same but I'm curious about it... And i want to learn more... I think the dam protest already been mentioned several time before... And also about Hojou family... Some hint have already been dropped "why do we need to get permission of this yakuza woman to go to CPS?" Not everything need to be answered right away... We might learn more in the next episode... again there is a Mystery aspect, there is also a Psychological.. If new people just assumed is all about horror, then the problem was on the viewer to have that expectations.... |
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| Good episode. Not many people have the (almost stupid) courage that K1 has |
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| It was good. I liked it. I’m watching and being like, what could go wrong. And the more that feeling stays worse will be the downfall. And i cannot wait to see it. :) |
| They're really flying through this arc. Kinda glad they did, though, because it's a long and dragged out arc. Excited to see what's going to happen next! |
| Grandma doesn't take anybody's bullshit. She definitely stands up for herself. But I didn't like this episode, but at the same time I enjoyed the intensity of it. |
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| From all the arcs so far all of it end badly so idk what to expect maybe this will be bad ending also or not Btw i like to commend how pretty Mio and Shion mother or auntie wow also Rena for how helpful and smart she was after the 1st arc. |
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| I'm surprised this has 5 episodes. I was expecting everyone to die this ep lol. I haven't watched the og but Rika is happy so that means something. I don't get how the head of the Sonozaki's just allowed them. Something is sus. btw mion's face when her mom was charming Keiichi XD |
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