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Apr 21, 2020 2:12 AM

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Brilliant! The practices of the cathedral are really messed up and it seems we've barely cracked the surface of the atrocities that might happen there, really cool the next episode is titled reforming the orphanage so all our questions might be answered there. Gil has been conquered, was hoping Delia would have her own episode so it felt a bit rushed on that account. The High priest was very upset with Myne getting that office, it'll be interesting to see if that drives some kind of wedge between him and the head priest.

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Apr 21, 2020 9:50 AM

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A really touching episode, we got Gil who really was screaming for help and he eventually got a fair chance with Myne, and then Delia who needed to learn some humility, and best of all Lutz kicking ass. Hopefully Myne will learn proper etiquette and how to behave like a lady.
KanameYuukiApr 21, 2020 10:06 AM
Apr 22, 2020 4:22 AM

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The Church's practices are really messed up, and Gil practically is needing some help surviving in there, so Myne, realizing her mistakes, sets Gil up for a compromise deal that is a win-win for both side.

And then there's the head priest whose authority is supressing against Delia, whilst Fran, Gil, Lutz and Myne settles in together as masters and retainers in a good relationship. All she needs is some humility, but the same with Gil, decides to retain her for proper morale.

Quite a good episode and touching indeed.
Apr 22, 2020 5:52 AM
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As Italian I definitely eat pizza with my hands :)
Apr 22, 2020 12:01 PM

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Dream team assemble! This happened really fast, I would have thought they could only manage one servant per episode. Hopefully, the main conflict of this sseason will now become apparent because for now everything is just going a little bit too smooth for my taste.
Apr 22, 2020 9:11 PM

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Gotta say, as much as I like this show, this episode just feels cheap somehow. Fran’s conversion makes sense; he wasn’t so much against Main as a master to begin with, more that he was angry at the head priest for what he thought was casting him aside. When the misunderstanding becomes clear, it’s resolved cleanly and briskly, as Main herself comes to accept the situation. It makes perfect sense, and it doesn’t feel cheap in the slightest.

Here, the two biggest objectors are converted to Main-sama’s faith in the span of an episode. In terms of difficulty, Gil is the second hardest, but Delia is by far the Last Boss. And yet, the last boss is converted in minutes.

The way Gil was won over makes sense, but how quickly he has come to greatly respect Main seems unnaturally fast. It feels like there should be at least a little friction.

But Delia...the speed at which she changes teams makes sense for her character, but it all happens so quickly without much time to process it. And she seems far too happy and eager to help Main in the next scene. I get that she’s grateful, but again, there’s no friction there.

Have I just read too many web novels?
Apr 22, 2020 11:38 PM
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Fall said:
But Delia...the speed at which she changes teams makes sense for her character, but it all happens so quickly without much time to process it. And she seems far too happy and eager to help Main in the next scene. I get that she’s grateful, but again, there’s no friction there.

They changed the way it was depicted from the novel.
Apr 22, 2020 11:46 PM

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daedalron said:
Fall said:
But Delia...the speed at which she changes teams makes sense for her character, but it all happens so quickly without much time to process it. And she seems far too happy and eager to help Main in the next scene. I get that she’s grateful, but again, there’s no friction there.

They changed the way it was depicted from the novel.


This sounds infinitely better.
Apr 27, 2020 1:10 AM

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That's so cute!!!! Myne's retainer are tame now :)
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Apr 28, 2020 7:50 PM

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It seems that even though her retainers have adjusted to working with her, that Myne is still being supervised by some outside source.
May 1, 2020 10:07 PM

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Kougeru said:
Funny Crunchyroll spells her name Myne in articles. Solid episode but I really hate that "those who don't work, don't eat" quote. It basically means people too sick to work should just starve to death. No church should push that message


It's always been a shitty message. With no nuance. Not the first time I've heard this in an anime...
May 16, 2020 4:10 AM

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Well............that was easy XD. I thought most of this season would be how she wins over her retainers and the rest in the church but she's already got her retainers down lol.

I love seeing Main help people in need. Its interesting though cause in that scene where that boy kneeled Main looked a lot older and kinder. Guess it makes sense since her mental age is something like 22.
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Jul 4, 2020 5:29 PM
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Myne a diamond in the rough just a little polishing and they will make her the lady of the city
Jul 5, 2020 9:05 PM

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Great episode. I especially loved Delia's character development as well as hints to some of the abuse that goes on in the orphanage. I have a feeling it's building to something much darker.
Jul 5, 2020 9:09 PM

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Mormegil said:
Kougeru said:
Funny Crunchyroll spells her name Myne in articles. Solid episode but I really hate that "those who don't work, don't eat" quote. It basically means people too sick to work should just starve to death. No church should push that message


It's always been a shitty message. With no nuance. Not the first time I've heard this in an anime...

The quote is "Those who don't" rather than "Those who can't". The quote isn't meant to include those incapable of the work (who wouldn't even be in the clergy anyway).
Jul 12, 2020 6:17 AM

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Nice to see Gil and also Delia becoming more friendly towards Main.

Main are you out of your mind!?! bringing pizza to these people, thats like worth a fortune compared to the food they already have there!

Pretty curious to what the last scene was about.

Aug 8, 2020 10:20 PM
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I like it
This episode made me smile
I like gil _ he is simple
I am touched when he cry after myne praise him
Mar 11, 2021 1:28 PM

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I'm glad that situations with bratty helpers are resolved quickly.. Maybe a bit too quick.. But it's better than if arguing would last for several episodes, really.. ;p
Church has some rituals to learn.. I guess, what can you do.. But it's also not really interesting at the same time..
Yeah, as Myne don't know lots of things and what are norms at the church and for nobility, Gil in the town also have things to learn.. Well, it seems they're getting along, it's nice.. ;P
Pizza~ ;P Pizza in nice..
Hm.. Wonder, if Myne is actually planning to make life different for the lower class in the church.. Well, we'll see..
Overall, glad that things got resolved.. Though, also really wouldn't be too surprised if Delia would decide to stab Myne in the back at some moment in the future, or will just continue to spy on her.. But we'll see.. I guess, now we're getting episodes about some church life, and how maybe we can change this society.. Or will see., what we'll have..
Aug 10, 2021 9:46 PM

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personally i would have cut the red head off, but usual MC arent allowed to do that, sadge
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Sep 22, 2021 9:19 PM

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Finally, Gil is now trustworthy at the moment to serve Myne, and Fran is being a good servant as well, I hope their relationship would lead to friendship rather than enemies.

The moment Gil cried in front of Myne was stunningly beautiful to watch.

The 1st attempt to deceive Myne was halted because Gil was there but the 2nd attempt produced tears out of Delia that could be true but I still doubt her intensions, I hope Delia is being true to herself. Their relationship, in a way, are a bit unstable.

I'm glad they didn't skip even little scenes like eating out of town since it makes me happy seeing Myne and the supporting characters growing up maturely as a master and servant.
CrazyButNot4USep 22, 2021 9:23 PM
It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines
and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it,
is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service.
Mar 12, 2022 1:07 PM

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Those kids got redemption, oh well but still good thing they didn't drag this thing forever. So no nuisances from now i suppose. Also a bit curious about that last scene.
Jun 3, 2022 7:05 PM

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Finally things seem to be turning around, this time with Gil and maybe with Delia in the end.

At the last scene, did somebody have a taste of this world's first ever pizza now other than them? Oh no, maybe they'll put pineapple on it or this world's analogue of it and they start the pineapple on pizza war uhmm...debate. LOL
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Sep 6, 2022 6:47 AM
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Two more in the span of 1 episode by applying common sense and logic, and humanity. Hopefully they won't betray her and it's nice they can also donate food to the orphanage.
I'm amazed they got no sauce on their robes though...
Mar 22, 2023 3:55 PM

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When an 8 year old's first instinct is to sell her body to an older man for food...
Nov 29, 2023 11:17 AM

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"We had absolutely no issues in your absence" is such a cold line. Damn.

Legit thought opening an Italian restaurant thing was just another random one-off joke from Myne's chibi form and it turned out to be the next plot point lmao. Sweet how all three retainers are finally on Myne's side tho.
Jun 28, 2024 9:29 PM
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I usually can't bear it when the MC is being dumb, just like with this anime. I mean, she loved books, she likes to read lots of books right? But since the first season and up until now, I don't even think that lore is fit for her, for someone that likes to read she supposed to know a lot of things or at least common sense, judging from her dumb actions especially in this epiosde.

And she can't stop being too egoistic and childish, especially this time.
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Still don't like red hair but oh well. At least now all of Myne's attendants are on her side now.
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