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Jul 14, 2017 3:41 PM
#51
How is riko strung up naked fanservice? It makes sense in context and is presented in the least sexual way possible (the shot is like 1 second long, at an angle that shows nothing except for her non-existent breasts.) it's at worst fanservice for pedos. People just wanted it to be there because it does have some kind of relevance that has been explained in a previous post on this thread. Moving on to what i first wanted to post, 2nd episode was great, op and ed are pretty lit as well. All this buildup makes me impatient for ep 3 5/5 |
Jul 14, 2017 3:42 PM
#52
Wish we could have seen the examination of Reg. If we have to see naked loli, I demand naked shota. And Riko's sketch doesn't count. |
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Jul 14, 2017 3:54 PM
#53
I liked the way they handled world building exposition. The way the people in this world seems to handle death and loss it's interesting. |
Jul 14, 2017 4:01 PM
#54
Pretty good episode and world building but the hanging scene existing does lead to worry that this series really will just give into edging it up for the sake of the edge. I've heard a ton of people complain that the series just gives into fetishizing suffering for the sake of torture porn. There is a big difference between being dark and torture porn so hopefully, it does actually pull itself together when those scenes do roll around especially since I'm very impressed with the atmosphere of the series thus far. Though ill temper my expectations in case this does just become shlock as to avoid any disappointment. Jack said: the guy who makes this series just finds lolis hot don't try to act like its anything more than that especially if you are knowledgable of later scenes. The anime actually tones this scene down more than the manga which was far more perverted. If it was to serve as some purpouse to show messed up the world is the author wouldn't have emphasized actual uncensored nudity in the manga. To contrast it a show that handled sexualization of a child to show how fucked the world is that didnt pander was iron blooded orphans, the character in question who i wont name cause spoiler was a sex slave to an abusive father but the show never showed anything gratuitous, only enough to know he was used as a sex toy to directly influence his actions from then on. Compared to this and many of the scenes that happen later, its just fanservice.coenraed said: Hongu said: Really shows the priorities of the manga readers if they're this excited over a naked hanging loli. Lol you do understand that it is important for the story and world building to show this scene? It's not like they were fetishizing it with weird camera angles or sounds, the whole point of that scene was to show how messed up the world is yet how normal that is to the characters in it. And if you didn't like seeing that you might well drop the show now cuz it's not going to get any better my dude. Complaining about a horribly out of place and distasteful scene makes people sjw's now. Jesus christ that term has lost every ounce of meaning it once had. |
JizzyHitlerJul 14, 2017 4:19 PM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Jul 14, 2017 4:13 PM
#56
Jack said: coenraed said: Hongu said: Really shows the priorities of the manga readers if they're this excited over a naked hanging loli. Lol you do understand that it is important for the story and world building to show this scene? It's not like they were fetishizing it with weird camera angles or sounds, the whole point of that scene was to show how messed up the world is yet how normal that is to the characters in it. And if you didn't like seeing that you might well drop the show now cuz it's not going to get any better my dude. I think it's less about the world-building and more the fact that the author is just a huge pervert. |
Jul 14, 2017 4:17 PM
#57
I wonder what makes Riko think it is ok to insert stuff into Reg's butthole... |
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Jul 14, 2017 4:22 PM
#58
Lvxferre said: She's Rico.I wonder what makes Riko think it is ok to insert stuff into Reg's butthole... She thinks anything is okay to insert into Reg's Butthole. Because she's Riko. |
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Jul 14, 2017 4:31 PM
#59
DustyHaze said: Lvxferre said: She's Rico.I wonder what makes Riko think it is ok to insert stuff into Reg's butthole... She thinks anything is okay to insert into Reg's Butthole. Because she's Riko. Maybe, considering the punishment methods is not that surprising she has these ideas. Still, it's uneasy to think some lolis are into pegging. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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Jul 14, 2017 4:42 PM
#60
JizzyHitler said: Pretty good episode and world building but the hanging scene existing does lead to worry that this series really will just give into edging it up for the sake of the edge. I've heard a ton of people complain that the series just gives into fetishizing suffering for the sake of torture porn. There is a big difference between being dark and torture porn so hopefully, it does actually pull itself together when those scenes do roll around especially since I'm very impressed with the atmosphere of the series thus far. Though ill temper my expectations in case this does just become shlock as to avoid any disappointment. Jack said: the guy who makes this series just finds lolis hot don't try to act like its anything more than that especially if you are knowledgable of later scenes. The anime actually tones this scene down more than the manga which was far more perverted. If it was to serve as some purpouse to show messed up the world is the author wouldn't have emphasized actual uncensored nudity in the manga. To contrast it a show that handled sexualization of a child to show how fucked the world is that didnt pander was iron blooded orphans, the character in question who i wont name cause spoiler was a sex slave to an abusive father but the show never showed anything gratuitous, only enough to know he was used as a sex toy to directly influence his actions from then on. Compared to this and many of the scenes that happen later, its just fanservice.coenraed said: Hongu said: Even though I'm usually personally ok with that kind of stuff, I agree with you in this context. I haven't read the manga, but these elements seem to be pretty inconsequential/unnecessary for the story/characters and the studio is throwing away their (significant) marketability to non-otaku audiences if they show much more of this.Really shows the priorities of the manga readers if they're this excited over a naked hanging loli. Lol you do understand that it is important for the story and world building to show this scene? It's not like they were fetishizing it with weird camera angles or sounds, the whole point of that scene was to show how messed up the world is yet how normal that is to the characters in it. And if you didn't like seeing that you might well drop the show now cuz it's not going to get any better my dude. Complaining about a horribly out of place and distasteful scene makes people sjw's now. Jesus christ that term has lost every ounce of meaning it once had. Oh please, I know exactly who you are talking about in IBO, and if you are actually saying the scene in this episode, which was what, three or four seconds long, with all of her hair covering her body, is any worse than that scene, which shows equally as little, but still implies the same amount, then yikes. The fact that you are implying the scene from this episode was in any shape or form 'gratuitous' is sad. Isangman0 said: Jack said: coenraed said: Hongu said: Even though I'm usually personally ok with that kind of stuff, I agree with you in this context. I haven't read the manga, but these elements seem to be pretty inconsequential/unnecessary for the story/characters and the studio is throwing away their (significant) marketability to non-otaku audiences if they show much more of this.Really shows the priorities of the manga readers if they're this excited over a naked hanging loli. Lol you do understand that it is important for the story and world building to show this scene? It's not like they were fetishizing it with weird camera angles or sounds, the whole point of that scene was to show how messed up the world is yet how normal that is to the characters in it. And if you didn't like seeing that you might well drop the show now cuz it's not going to get any better my dude. I think it's less about the world-building and more the fact that the author is just a huge pervert. However I'm not referring to the author or the manga, I'm talking about what was shown in this episode was nothing to cry home about. There was nothing sexual about that scene, what you are supposed to draw from it is the scene of Riko having to receive a demeaning and shameful punishment, and thus feeling bad for her receiving it considering what she did to deserve it. |
JackJul 14, 2017 4:45 PM
Jul 14, 2017 4:52 PM
#61
Really happy to at least have even more hope that this Lyza lady is alive....She sounds like an awesome person and I really wanna see her in the flesh Other than that, I liked the extra world-building that we got about the Abyss and its effects as well as finding out about the different ranks of being a Raider and their job descriptions and most of all the info about Lyza's life Finding out about Riko's birth was crazy though and I'm even more intrigued by where her character is going to go in this series along with Reg whose confirmed to be from one of the lowest parts of the Abyss (The tone of this episode was really well imo and a nice blend between the more light-hearted moments and serious ones Great episode overall and I can't wait to see what happens next - Also, it was pretty cool to see Reg integrate into Riko's lifestyle |
Jul 14, 2017 5:12 PM
#62
Gosh this show is lovely. I haven't read the manga, but I've heard that this will get darker as the series progresses. I was a bit surprised to see RKO hanging naked, but it didn't feel out of place. We've already been told that the orphanage is strict, so seeing things like that is probably the norm there. If naked hanging is tame, there are probably worse stuff done. Though, it would be nice if that wasn't the case. Anyways, so far so great. If it continues like this, then I can see it becoming aots. |
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Jul 14, 2017 5:20 PM
#63
Nekuu said: Where can I watch the second episode already, can't find it on kissanime or gogoanime? I watched it on gogoanime its on the first page |
Jul 14, 2017 5:20 PM
#64
Jack said: Huh? Im talking about JizzyHitler said: Pretty good episode and world building but the hanging scene existing does lead to worry that this series really will just give into edging it up for the sake of the edge. I've heard a ton of people complain that the series just gives into fetishizing suffering for the sake of torture porn. There is a big difference between being dark and torture porn so hopefully, it does actually pull itself together when those scenes do roll around especially since I'm very impressed with the atmosphere of the series thus far. Though ill temper my expectations in case this does just become shlock as to avoid any disappointment. Jack said: coenraed said: Hongu said: Even though I'm usually personally ok with that kind of stuff, I agree with you in this context. I haven't read the manga, but these elements seem to be pretty inconsequential/unnecessary for the story/characters and the studio is throwing away their (significant) marketability to non-otaku audiences if they show much more of this.Really shows the priorities of the manga readers if they're this excited over a naked hanging loli. Lol you do understand that it is important for the story and world building to show this scene? It's not like they were fetishizing it with weird camera angles or sounds, the whole point of that scene was to show how messed up the world is yet how normal that is to the characters in it. And if you didn't like seeing that you might well drop the show now cuz it's not going to get any better my dude. Complaining about a horribly out of place and distasteful scene makes people sjw's now. Jesus christ that term has lost every ounce of meaning it once had. Oh please, I know exactly who you are talking about in IBO, and if you are actually saying the scene in this episode, which was what, three or four seconds long, with all of her hair covering her body, is any worse than that scene, which shows equally as little, but still implies the same amount, then yikes. The fact that you are implying the scene from this episode was in any shape or form 'gratuitous' is sad. Mcgillis being the sex toy to his father, they hint at it the whole show but then show an after sex scene around the 44 episode mark, they show no nudity, no sexualization of mcgillis as a child and infact do a diservice due to the wounds on his body from the abuse, and it exists to directly set up character motivaiton as well establish how detestable his father is The creator of made in abyss draws blatant nipples on his characters and even complained to the staff of the anime for not making the nipples puffy. Its fucking fanservice even if the anime gratefully tones it down alot. The manga shows nipples and is clearly just fap bait. Acting like its anything but doesnt help defend the show especially when you said it yourself this is alot tamer than the sexual content to come which doesnt even have the excuse of showing the world being fucked. Theres going to be scenes of reg just walking in on her naked nudity and all full blown how does that serve a purpouse of showing the world is fucked up. Even then the excuse doesnt work cause the previous episode already established that this event has happened before, there was no point in showing it aide form pandering cause even if it were to show how messed up the world is, then this would just be redundant. Fine if IBO is a bad example of this done better than how about now and then here and there. There was way more messed up stuff in thats series than this one and even then it was done far more tastfully There thats an ultimatum for you, if you can justify why they NEEDED to show it directly as appossed to just mentioning this is an exact punishment she has gotten previously episode 1 then I will concede. In what possible way does showing a naked child especially in a light hearted manner does it improve the series in a way that what was done last episode insufficiently handled it. |
JizzyHitlerJul 14, 2017 5:33 PM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Jul 14, 2017 5:21 PM
#65
I enjoyed this episode. Was a lot of fun and might be the best anime this season if it keeps up... |
Jul 14, 2017 5:34 PM
#66
JizzyHitler said: Jack said: Huh? Im talking about JizzyHitler said: Pretty good episode and world building but the hanging scene existing does lead to worry that this series really will just give into edging it up for the sake of the edge. I've heard a ton of people complain that the series just gives into fetishizing suffering for the sake of torture porn. There is a big difference between being dark and torture porn so hopefully, it does actually pull itself together when those scenes do roll around especially since I'm very impressed with the atmosphere of the series thus far. Though ill temper my expectations in case this does just become shlock as to avoid any disappointment. Jack said: the guy who makes this series just finds lolis hot don't try to act like its anything more than that especially if you are knowledgable of later scenes. The anime actually tones this scene down more than the manga which was far more perverted. If it was to serve as some purpouse to show messed up the world is the author wouldn't have emphasized actual uncensored nudity in the manga. To contrast it a show that handled sexualization of a child to show how fucked the world is that didnt pander was iron blooded orphans, the character in question who i wont name cause spoiler was a sex slave to an abusive father but the show never showed anything gratuitous, only enough to know he was used as a sex toy to directly influence his actions from then on. Compared to this and many of the scenes that happen later, its just fanservice.coenraed said: Hongu said: Even though I'm usually personally ok with that kind of stuff, I agree with you in this context. I haven't read the manga, but these elements seem to be pretty inconsequential/unnecessary for the story/characters and the studio is throwing away their (significant) marketability to non-otaku audiences if they show much more of this.Really shows the priorities of the manga readers if they're this excited over a naked hanging loli. Lol you do understand that it is important for the story and world building to show this scene? It's not like they were fetishizing it with weird camera angles or sounds, the whole point of that scene was to show how messed up the world is yet how normal that is to the characters in it. And if you didn't like seeing that you might well drop the show now cuz it's not going to get any better my dude. Complaining about a horribly out of place and distasteful scene makes people sjw's now. Jesus christ that term has lost every ounce of meaning it once had. Oh please, I know exactly who you are talking about in IBO, and if you are actually saying the scene in this episode, which was what, three or four seconds long, with all of her hair covering her body, is any worse than that scene, which shows equally as little, but still implies the same amount, then yikes. The fact that you are implying the scene from this episode was in any shape or form 'gratuitous' is sad. Mcgillis being the sex toy to his father, they hint at it the whole show but then show an after sex scene around the 44 episode mark, they show no nudity, no sexualization of mcgillis as a child and infact do a diservice due to the wounds on his body from the abuse, and it exists to directly set up character motivaiton as well establish how detestable his father is The creator of made in abyss draws blatant nipples on his characters and even complained to the staff of the anime for not making the nipples puffy. Its fucking fanservice even if the anime gratefully tones it down alot. The manga shows nipples and is clearly just fap bait. Acting like its anything but doesnt help defend the show especially when you said it yourself this is alot tamer than the sexual content to come which doesnt even have the excuse of showing the world being fucked. Theres going to be scenes of ren just walking in on her naked nudity and all full blown how does that serve a purpouse of showing the world is fucked up. Even then the excuse doesnt work cause the previous episode already established that this event has happened before, there was no point in showing it aide form pandering cause even if it were to show how messed up the world is, then this would just be redundant. Fine if IBO is a bad example of this done better than how about now and then here and there. There was way more messed up stuff in thats series than this one and even then it was done far more tastfully. Yes I know that was who you were talking about, there was one flashback scene with him and said abuser wherein what was showed was rather tame but what was implied on the other hand was quite disturbing. Same with Now and then, here and there, and might I add, the scene from this episode. When it comes to the author's intentions behind it, I can agree, it's very creepy, however what was shown was not so. Also you have to admit that saying something yet not showing is a whole lot less impactful than saying and then showing. Even with your example of the IBO character, that whole backstory would have lost 'something' if it had not been shown and delivered in the way it was. It's one thing to just hear it coming from the character's lips, but seeing it too? So I apologize, I sounded as if I was defending something I was not, but I thank you for letting me clarify, if I was able to just now. |
Jul 14, 2017 5:35 PM
#67
great development, great mystery, great character! i really want to see Lyza cause i got a feeling that she's still alive, and i think she's the one who sent Reg to above layer. and this scene here is interesting (i think it's not a spoiler, but in case it is i put it under spoiler tag): look what i circled... a globe with south east asia side. is this a mistake done by background team, or is it just some "easter", or is it really something that has got to do with the plot? |
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Jul 14, 2017 5:35 PM
#68
The creator of made in abyss draws blatant nipples on his characters and even complained to the staff of the anime for not making the nipples puffy. Its fucking fanservice even if the anime gratefully tones it down alot. The manga shows nipples and is clearly just fap bait. Acting like its anything but doesnt help defend the show especially when you said it yourself this is alot tamer than the sexual content to come which doesnt even have the excuse of showing the world being fucked. Theres going to be scenes of reg just walking in on her naked nudity and all full blown how does that serve a purpouse of showing the world is fucked up. Even then the excuse doesnt work cause the previous episode already established that this event has happened before, there was no point in showing it aide form pandering cause even if it were to show how messed up the world is, then this would just be redundant. Fine if IBO is a bad example of this done better than how about now and then here and there. There was way more messed up stuff in thats series than this one and even then it was done far more tastfully. Yup. We can explain it as world-building and it wouldn't be incorrect, but for the most part it's just the author being a massive pervert. |
Jul 14, 2017 5:36 PM
#69
So good. Can't believe this isn't the most popular anime of the season. |
Jul 14, 2017 5:40 PM
#70
This was a pretty good episode, however I think I'm fearing that this will come off as either poorly executed or something that people can't really take seriously. Because I can see it going on the second point. I get that it is a build up but depending on how they manage it they can either nail it or they would fail it. But it was nice though. |
Jul 14, 2017 5:45 PM
#71
Jul 14, 2017 5:49 PM
#72
Shinji get in the fucking abyss already! |
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Jul 14, 2017 5:51 PM
#73
Jack said: oh dont let my language make it seem like I was trying to be antaognistic, i just have a potty mouth even when typing that makes my language read stronger then i intend.JizzyHitler said: Jack said: JizzyHitler said: Pretty good episode and world building but the hanging scene existing does lead to worry that this series really will just give into edging it up for the sake of the edge. I've heard a ton of people complain that the series just gives into fetishizing suffering for the sake of torture porn. There is a big difference between being dark and torture porn so hopefully, it does actually pull itself together when those scenes do roll around especially since I'm very impressed with the atmosphere of the series thus far. Though ill temper my expectations in case this does just become shlock as to avoid any disappointment. Jack said: the guy who makes this series just finds lolis hot don't try to act like its anything more than that especially if you are knowledgable of later scenes. The anime actually tones this scene down more than the manga which was far more perverted. If it was to serve as some purpouse to show messed up the world is the author wouldn't have emphasized actual uncensored nudity in the manga. To contrast it a show that handled sexualization of a child to show how fucked the world is that didnt pander was iron blooded orphans, the character in question who i wont name cause spoiler was a sex slave to an abusive father but the show never showed anything gratuitous, only enough to know he was used as a sex toy to directly influence his actions from then on. Compared to this and many of the scenes that happen later, its just fanservice.coenraed said: Hongu said: Even though I'm usually personally ok with that kind of stuff, I agree with you in this context. I haven't read the manga, but these elements seem to be pretty inconsequential/unnecessary for the story/characters and the studio is throwing away their (significant) marketability to non-otaku audiences if they show much more of this.Really shows the priorities of the manga readers if they're this excited over a naked hanging loli. Lol you do understand that it is important for the story and world building to show this scene? It's not like they were fetishizing it with weird camera angles or sounds, the whole point of that scene was to show how messed up the world is yet how normal that is to the characters in it. And if you didn't like seeing that you might well drop the show now cuz it's not going to get any better my dude. Complaining about a horribly out of place and distasteful scene makes people sjw's now. Jesus christ that term has lost every ounce of meaning it once had. Oh please, I know exactly who you are talking about in IBO, and if you are actually saying the scene in this episode, which was what, three or four seconds long, with all of her hair covering her body, is any worse than that scene, which shows equally as little, but still implies the same amount, then yikes. The fact that you are implying the scene from this episode was in any shape or form 'gratuitous' is sad. Mcgillis being the sex toy to his father, they hint at it the whole show but then show an after sex scene around the 44 episode mark, they show no nudity, no sexualization of mcgillis as a child and infact do a diservice due to the wounds on his body from the abuse, and it exists to directly set up character motivaiton as well establish how detestable his father is The creator of made in abyss draws blatant nipples on his characters and even complained to the staff of the anime for not making the nipples puffy. Its fucking fanservice even if the anime gratefully tones it down alot. The manga shows nipples and is clearly just fap bait. Acting like its anything but doesnt help defend the show especially when you said it yourself this is alot tamer than the sexual content to come which doesnt even have the excuse of showing the world being fucked. Theres going to be scenes of ren just walking in on her naked nudity and all full blown how does that serve a purpouse of showing the world is fucked up. Even then the excuse doesnt work cause the previous episode already established that this event has happened before, there was no point in showing it aide form pandering cause even if it were to show how messed up the world is, then this would just be redundant. Fine if IBO is a bad example of this done better than how about now and then here and there. There was way more messed up stuff in thats series than this one and even then it was done far more tastfully. Yes I know that was who you were talking about, there was one flashback scene with him and said abuser wherein what was showed was rather tame but what was implied on the other hand was quite disturbing. Same with Now and then, here and there, and might I add, the scene from this episode. When it comes to the author's intentions behind it, I can agree, it's very creepy, however what was shown was not so. Also you have to admit that saying something yet not showing is a whole lot less impactful than saying and then showing. Even with your example of the IBO character, that whole backstory would have lost 'something' if it had not been shown and delivered in the way it was. It's one thing to just hear it coming from the character's lips, but seeing it too? So I apologize, I sounded as if I was defending something I was not, but I thank you for letting me clarify, if I was able to just now. I can understand the logic of seeing vs hearing having impact, but this is simply not the case for this part I'd argue. Given the gratuitous and fetishized nature of the nudity in the manga as well as how this scene, in particular, was actually used as a "light hearted" joke I simply cannot see this as anything other than the author inserting his fetish. Theres simply one too many times something like this happens to be excused as just some way of showing how messed up the world is. Especially when the act of sending children off to their deaths in places full of monsters is already good enough of showing that. The sexual content only takes away from the overall tone, maturity, and impact of the story. The only way I would of seen this as a way to showcase a messed up setting is if the scene was handled in a totally different light, its far too light hearted and comical. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Jul 14, 2017 6:35 PM
#74
Naked loli from rafter. Gotta stay true to the source material <3 Those unknown to the mango, your lewds are soon to come if they so choose... |
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Jul 14, 2017 6:44 PM
#75
JizzyHitler said: Jack said: oh dont let my language make it seem like I was trying to be antaognistic, i just have a potty mouth even when typing that makes my language read stronger then i intend.JizzyHitler said: Jack said: Huh? Im talking about JizzyHitler said: Pretty good episode and world building but the hanging scene existing does lead to worry that this series really will just give into edging it up for the sake of the edge. I've heard a ton of people complain that the series just gives into fetishizing suffering for the sake of torture porn. There is a big difference between being dark and torture porn so hopefully, it does actually pull itself together when those scenes do roll around especially since I'm very impressed with the atmosphere of the series thus far. Though ill temper my expectations in case this does just become shlock as to avoid any disappointment. Jack said: the guy who makes this series just finds lolis hot don't try to act like its anything more than that especially if you are knowledgable of later scenes. The anime actually tones this scene down more than the manga which was far more perverted. If it was to serve as some purpouse to show messed up the world is the author wouldn't have emphasized actual uncensored nudity in the manga. To contrast it a show that handled sexualization of a child to show how fucked the world is that didnt pander was iron blooded orphans, the character in question who i wont name cause spoiler was a sex slave to an abusive father but the show never showed anything gratuitous, only enough to know he was used as a sex toy to directly influence his actions from then on. Compared to this and many of the scenes that happen later, its just fanservice.coenraed said: Hongu said: Even though I'm usually personally ok with that kind of stuff, I agree with you in this context. I haven't read the manga, but these elements seem to be pretty inconsequential/unnecessary for the story/characters and the studio is throwing away their (significant) marketability to non-otaku audiences if they show much more of this.Really shows the priorities of the manga readers if they're this excited over a naked hanging loli. Lol you do understand that it is important for the story and world building to show this scene? It's not like they were fetishizing it with weird camera angles or sounds, the whole point of that scene was to show how messed up the world is yet how normal that is to the characters in it. And if you didn't like seeing that you might well drop the show now cuz it's not going to get any better my dude. Complaining about a horribly out of place and distasteful scene makes people sjw's now. Jesus christ that term has lost every ounce of meaning it once had. Oh please, I know exactly who you are talking about in IBO, and if you are actually saying the scene in this episode, which was what, three or four seconds long, with all of her hair covering her body, is any worse than that scene, which shows equally as little, but still implies the same amount, then yikes. The fact that you are implying the scene from this episode was in any shape or form 'gratuitous' is sad. Mcgillis being the sex toy to his father, they hint at it the whole show but then show an after sex scene around the 44 episode mark, they show no nudity, no sexualization of mcgillis as a child and infact do a diservice due to the wounds on his body from the abuse, and it exists to directly set up character motivaiton as well establish how detestable his father is The creator of made in abyss draws blatant nipples on his characters and even complained to the staff of the anime for not making the nipples puffy. Its fucking fanservice even if the anime gratefully tones it down alot. The manga shows nipples and is clearly just fap bait. Acting like its anything but doesnt help defend the show especially when you said it yourself this is alot tamer than the sexual content to come which doesnt even have the excuse of showing the world being fucked. Theres going to be scenes of ren just walking in on her naked nudity and all full blown how does that serve a purpouse of showing the world is fucked up. Even then the excuse doesnt work cause the previous episode already established that this event has happened before, there was no point in showing it aide form pandering cause even if it were to show how messed up the world is, then this would just be redundant. Fine if IBO is a bad example of this done better than how about now and then here and there. There was way more messed up stuff in thats series than this one and even then it was done far more tastfully. Yes I know that was who you were talking about, there was one flashback scene with him and said abuser wherein what was showed was rather tame but what was implied on the other hand was quite disturbing. Same with Now and then, here and there, and might I add, the scene from this episode. When it comes to the author's intentions behind it, I can agree, it's very creepy, however what was shown was not so. Also you have to admit that saying something yet not showing is a whole lot less impactful than saying and then showing. Even with your example of the IBO character, that whole backstory would have lost 'something' if it had not been shown and delivered in the way it was. It's one thing to just hear it coming from the character's lips, but seeing it too? So I apologize, I sounded as if I was defending something I was not, but I thank you for letting me clarify, if I was able to just now. I can understand the logic of seeing vs hearing having impact, but this is simply not the case for this part I'd argue. Given the gratuitous and fetishized nature of the nudity in the manga as well as how this scene, in particular, was actually used as a "light hearted" joke I simply cannot see this as anything other than the author inserting his fetish. Theres simply one too many times something like this happens to be excused as just some way of showing how messed up the world is. Especially when the act of sending children off to their deaths in places full of monsters is already good enough of showing that. The sexual content only takes away from the overall tone, maturity, and impact of the story. The only way I would of seen this as a way to showcase a messed up setting is if the scene was handled in a totally different light, its far too light hearted and comical. Well I do agree with what you are saying, especially after you showing me that panel. I have not read the manga itself but with what seems like almost everybody speaking about how the manga gets 'dark' I was expecting such things that have already been shown such as the hanging and kids working in extremely deadly places, so perhaps with the way they did the hanging scene in the anime I'm not truly worried about this anime going down the route of super creepy like the manga does. And I don't know, it just really didn't take away from the anime in my eyes, I can see how it does in the manga with all that dialogue but so far it hasn't in the anime, it's fair to say there's a definite separation in terms of tone that the two are going for, so far at least. I also apologize for the late response. |
Jul 14, 2017 7:02 PM
#76
Having seen the episode in question, the hanging from the ceiling naked scene is a mere 2 seconds in a voiceless monatage. Geez guys, grow up already. |
Jul 14, 2017 7:12 PM
#77
I watched both the first episode and this because my cousin had recommended it to me and I wasn't disappointed. Though I find the Riko girl to be rather irritating, the first two episodes were enjoyable and kept me invested. I have also heard that the manga has.. Uhm.. A lot of pedophillic/fetishistic undertones with the child leads which might prove to be controversial but I think they'll be more toned down for the anime- just to avoid too much drama ( you can already see it toned down too when you compare certain things to how they're gone about in the manga panels as opposed to the anime itself ). I'd prefer it that way too, honestly. It's a good anime so far and I would rather not have it be overshadowed by controversy. Can't wait until the dark stuff comes into play. I keep seeing people say this may just be the anime of the season butehhh while the first two episodes were good, I'm just not getting anime of the season vibes from this yet. Let's not jump the gun as there are plenty of other good anime's airing this season as well and who knows how this might end up. Still good tho. Can't wait for the next. |
Jul 14, 2017 7:23 PM
#78
The curse is pretty scary 😳 I wonder what that stuff with another country is about. And it seems like her mom is at the bottom and probably can't come back up because she'll die. I'm really looking forward to seeing what else is in the abyss. The whole place is such a mystery :O |
Jul 14, 2017 7:38 PM
#79
Well we have a lot of explanation in one episode which bore me honestly but I still enjoy the rest of the episode about Riko's mother etc.. And how is she doesn't even shed a tear when hearing Gilo's story? lol Hope the next episodes will be better |
Jul 14, 2017 9:00 PM
#80
hehe I'm loving this series, but the talk about how screwed up it is later has me leery about recomending it to friends till I see it all hehe. |
Jul 14, 2017 11:31 PM
#81
Wait, is there going to be more of this sort of stuff? Because this scene honestly made me uncomfortable, as short as it was. I mean, she's a minor for crying out loud, not even in her pre-teens as far as I can tell. This scene just felt dirty and if there is more of this type of thing that I'm going to have to reconsider watching this even though the plot actually seems interesting. |
Jul 14, 2017 11:36 PM
#82
Pretty exciting goal to reach by the end of the series. Good episode. |
Jul 14, 2017 11:59 PM
#83
Best [Papa] Incoming JizzyHitler said: Jack said: oh dont let my language make it seem like I was trying to be antaognistic, i just have a potty mouth even when typing that makes my language read stronger then i intend.JizzyHitler said: Jack said: Huh? Im talking about JizzyHitler said: Pretty good episode and world building but the hanging scene existing does lead to worry that this series really will just give into edging it up for the sake of the edge. I've heard a ton of people complain that the series just gives into fetishizing suffering for the sake of torture porn. There is a big difference between being dark and torture porn so hopefully, it does actually pull itself together when those scenes do roll around especially since I'm very impressed with the atmosphere of the series thus far. Though ill temper my expectations in case this does just become shlock as to avoid any disappointment. Jack said: the guy who makes this series just finds lolis hot don't try to act like its anything more than that especially if you are knowledgable of later scenes. The anime actually tones this scene down more than the manga which was far more perverted. If it was to serve as some purpouse to show messed up the world is the author wouldn't have emphasized actual uncensored nudity in the manga. To contrast it a show that handled sexualization of a child to show how fucked the world is that didnt pander was iron blooded orphans, the character in question who i wont name cause spoiler was a sex slave to an abusive father but the show never showed anything gratuitous, only enough to know he was used as a sex toy to directly influence his actions from then on. Compared to this and many of the scenes that happen later, its just fanservice.coenraed said: Hongu said: Even though I'm usually personally ok with that kind of stuff, I agree with you in this context. I haven't read the manga, but these elements seem to be pretty inconsequential/unnecessary for the story/characters and the studio is throwing away their (significant) marketability to non-otaku audiences if they show much more of this.Really shows the priorities of the manga readers if they're this excited over a naked hanging loli. Lol you do understand that it is important for the story and world building to show this scene? It's not like they were fetishizing it with weird camera angles or sounds, the whole point of that scene was to show how messed up the world is yet how normal that is to the characters in it. And if you didn't like seeing that you might well drop the show now cuz it's not going to get any better my dude. Complaining about a horribly out of place and distasteful scene makes people sjw's now. Jesus christ that term has lost every ounce of meaning it once had. Oh please, I know exactly who you are talking about in IBO, and if you are actually saying the scene in this episode, which was what, three or four seconds long, with all of her hair covering her body, is any worse than that scene, which shows equally as little, but still implies the same amount, then yikes. The fact that you are implying the scene from this episode was in any shape or form 'gratuitous' is sad. Mcgillis being the sex toy to his father, they hint at it the whole show but then show an after sex scene around the 44 episode mark, they show no nudity, no sexualization of mcgillis as a child and infact do a diservice due to the wounds on his body from the abuse, and it exists to directly set up character motivaiton as well establish how detestable his father is The creator of made in abyss draws blatant nipples on his characters and even complained to the staff of the anime for not making the nipples puffy. Its fucking fanservice even if the anime gratefully tones it down alot. The manga shows nipples and is clearly just fap bait. Acting like its anything but doesnt help defend the show especially when you said it yourself this is alot tamer than the sexual content to come which doesnt even have the excuse of showing the world being fucked. Theres going to be scenes of ren just walking in on her naked nudity and all full blown how does that serve a purpouse of showing the world is fucked up. Even then the excuse doesnt work cause the previous episode already established that this event has happened before, there was no point in showing it aide form pandering cause even if it were to show how messed up the world is, then this would just be redundant. Fine if IBO is a bad example of this done better than how about now and then here and there. There was way more messed up stuff in thats series than this one and even then it was done far more tastfully. Yes I know that was who you were talking about, there was one flashback scene with him and said abuser wherein what was showed was rather tame but what was implied on the other hand was quite disturbing. Same with Now and then, here and there, and might I add, the scene from this episode. When it comes to the author's intentions behind it, I can agree, it's very creepy, however what was shown was not so. Also you have to admit that saying something yet not showing is a whole lot less impactful than saying and then showing. Even with your example of the IBO character, that whole backstory would have lost 'something' if it had not been shown and delivered in the way it was. It's one thing to just hear it coming from the character's lips, but seeing it too? So I apologize, I sounded as if I was defending something I was not, but I thank you for letting me clarify, if I was able to just now. I can understand the logic of seeing vs hearing having impact, but this is simply not the case for this part I'd argue. Given the gratuitous and fetishized nature of the nudity in the manga as well as how this scene, in particular, was actually used as a "light hearted" joke I simply cannot see this as anything other than the author inserting his fetish. Theres simply one too many times something like this happens to be excused as just some way of showing how messed up the world is. Especially when the act of sending children off to their deaths in places full of monsters is already good enough of showing that. The sexual content only takes away from the overall tone, maturity, and impact of the story. The only way I would of seen this as a way to showcase a messed up setting is if the scene was handled in a totally different light, its far too light hearted and comical. While i do agreed that the author is inserting his fetish into the manga, It doesn't take away the tone for me at all . Some might feel uncomfortable about it in the manga but to me it just feel natural. Considering the World that they lives aren't exactly happy-go-luck. |
podetusJul 15, 2017 1:13 AM
Because we're stupid that we love to have fun |
Jul 15, 2017 12:03 AM
#84
okay anime of the season. literally nothing beats this one |
Jul 15, 2017 12:24 AM
#85
GreenTea13 said: Wait, is there going to be more of this sort of stuff? Because this scene honestly made me uncomfortable, as short as it was. I mean, she's a minor for crying out loud, not even in her pre-teens as far as I can tell. This scene just felt dirty and if there is more of this type of thing that I'm going to have to reconsider watching this even though the plot actually seems interesting. Questionable fanservice is quite big of criticism for the manga version I heard. People hoped they would tone it down or remove in adaptation but alas. |
Jul 15, 2017 12:34 AM
#86
Was hoping there wouldn't be more stuff like that later on but it doesn't sound like that's the case..nonetheless solid episode learned a lot about the world doesn't look like this is gonna be a happy show after all. |
Jul 15, 2017 1:11 AM
#87
Fai said: GreenTea13 said: Wait, is there going to be more of this sort of stuff? Because this scene honestly made me uncomfortable, as short as it was. I mean, she's a minor for crying out loud, not even in her pre-teens as far as I can tell. This scene just felt dirty and if there is more of this type of thing that I'm going to have to reconsider watching this even though the plot actually seems interesting. Questionable fanservice is quite big of criticism for the manga version I heard. People hoped they would tone it down or remove in adaptation but alas. They did toned it down a little bit tho i didn't excepted they would keep that. Also very few people, who read the manga, complaining about the loli fan-service. |
Because we're stupid that we love to have fun |
Jul 15, 2017 2:16 AM
#88
What is this animation and art quality? It's too good for a TV show! |
Jul 15, 2017 3:19 AM
#89
This continues to be the best show of the season so far. Also this is the first opening of the season that's actually pretty good. |
Jul 15, 2017 4:57 AM
#90
im totally satisfied....that was amazing...i cant wait to see the next episode |
Jul 15, 2017 7:55 AM
#91
Please stay where you are, the police is on its way. I enjoy this show thus far, but I hope they get back into the Abyss soon. |
Jul 15, 2017 8:43 AM
#92
After reading up to latest chapter im really curious how much they censor it in this adaptation... the manga is definitely not for kids lol Can't wait to see some scene to be animated ! |
Jul 15, 2017 8:49 AM
#93
Not as good as the first episode but was a very good one... I hope it keeps this level of animation and story! |
Jul 15, 2017 9:36 AM
#94
I'm looking forward for the next episode:O Omg i cant wait o-o |
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Jul 15, 2017 10:31 AM
#95
Based on most of this thread, one could be lead to believe that the only reason why Made in Abyss is claimed to be the anime of the season is that one second of Riko hanging naked. Not that I'm surprised, I mean, why talk about the interesting reveals in the episode, when we can drool over the prospect of more naked lolis. Whatever floats that proverbial boat, I guess. I pick up just one show this season and it still can't escape the fetish baggage that of course derails the dicussion into fan wank and ethical debates. Yeah, I'm a little salty about that. Even if I can usually like something while also disagreeing with some parts of it... this time it leaves an especially sour taste. |
LeeTailorJul 15, 2017 11:12 AM
Jul 15, 2017 10:46 AM
#96
I liked so much this last episode, hope I can grow fond of this anime. It was fun to see Regu's behavior towards Riko in that scene, that was cute~ And the opening was so cute as well, but I think it won't be as happy as it looks... Idk, Intuition lol |
Cuteness > Everything else Cuteness is Love, Cuteness is Life |
Jul 15, 2017 10:54 AM
#97
Am I the only one who think this show has some Studio Ghibli vibe? |
Jul 15, 2017 11:29 AM
#98
This was much more better than EP1, but I think with a little more bold colours it would be better I guess Regu is from the other side some kind enemy, or maybe Riko's twin bro |
Jul 15, 2017 11:49 AM
#99
Raon said: Am I the only one who think this show has some Studio Ghibli vibe? It's because the one in charge of backgrounds has done the backgrounds for some ghibli films |
XenocrisiJul 15, 2017 12:00 PM
Jul 15, 2017 1:38 PM
#100
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