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Nov 19, 2016 9:34 PM

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Psykofreac said:
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Overhyped? You can't be serious.


The point is that this was really popular when it first came out, particularly with the first couple of episodes. There's a reason it shows on this Crunchyroll page. I don't know exactly how much opinion had changed lately but because of the hype, I thought it would be worth checking out and review by the end of the season.

I don't use CR so don't really know there but don't think this show is all that talked about just from personal experience and my browsing, if anything it's on the very average/normal scale.
Nov 19, 2016 9:39 PM
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Tenth said:
Psykofreac said:


The point is that this was really popular when it first came out, particularly with the first couple of episodes. There's a reason it shows on this Crunchyroll page. I don't know exactly how much opinion had changed lately but because of the hype, I thought it would be worth checking out and review by the end of the season.

I don't use CR so don't really know there but don't think this show is all that talked about just from personal experience and my browsing, if anything it's on the very average/normal scale.


It's not just CR, most youtube top 10 anime of Fall 2016 will have Izetta in it, hell many people who complain about the season even say Izetta's the only redeeming factor. It even had lots of attention before airing enough for Funimation to dub it with only a couple of episodes out.
Nov 19, 2016 10:31 PM

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awww mannn, I kinda ship Bianca x Ricelt..
why must ended like this.. :-;

wait what
Nov 20, 2016 12:00 AM
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Looks like the new witch Germania made will come into play in next weeks episode and will for sure probably be used to set a balance to izzeta so they can't win with the power of the witch but not we got america turning on both countries it's really going to heat things up but I definitely see this getting a lot more tragic before it gets better
Nov 20, 2016 1:13 AM
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Good episode, seems like this show will got a tragic ending.

Vanschia said:
awww mannn, I kinda ship Bianca x Ricelt..
why must ended like this.. :-;

Indeed, before the ship has come to sail, it already sank in a tragic way.
Nov 20, 2016 2:13 AM

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The way the plot moved in this episode felt so cheap...
Don't really know what to expect from now on.
Nov 20, 2016 4:44 AM

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Lol, the people guarding the castle failed big time...
Nov 20, 2016 7:19 AM
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Vanschia said:
awww mannn, I kinda ship Bianca x Ricelt..
why must ended like this.. :-;

wait what

Her name was Bianca, it was obviously a set up from the beginning. She's going to survive according to plan.
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Nov 20, 2016 8:00 AM

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DGemu said:
Jeez, they got spies everywhere..
And man, the best/only worthwhile parts of each episode are at the last 5 minutes or so.

I feel like if the Germanian's side of the white witch story is true, then she was also subjected to giving birth to a successor which is the girl with the white hair. Jesus christ. The deceased king's wife fucked them all.


Indeed, if the deceased king's wife of the legend sell the white witch to the Germanian's Empire, it make sense they have so much knowledge about the witch and her magic.
Nov 20, 2016 10:17 AM
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why it had to ended this way...
my poor heart can't contain it D':


*really hoped for more RiceltxBianca doe, but oh well...*
**don't know, but I saw a really bad ending coming right up**


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Nov 20, 2016 10:31 AM

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Ricelt and Bianca ...I was shipping that but I knew it would be his last episode...Still sad, even if he was "a bad guy" I loved him :(
Nov 20, 2016 10:45 AM

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Such encounters were not meant to be. the cruelty of this episode should serve as a reminder that our ancestors fought for literally nothing. maybe it would be easier to say they only fought for their own selfish reasons. History says they fought for their land, nation etc. but that's just an excuse for them to make you pay land tax and property because otherwise no one would pay taxes, so governments need a *fairy tale* thus labeling some soldiers as *heroes*. never the private or the major or the lieutenant, but it's always the general.

and of course, the farmer = spy was so convenient.

major is a badass! boldly meeting up with his enemy and kissing Izetta was something.
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Nov 20, 2016 2:06 PM
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Hah, seems that the Sarge wasn't Rickert's only contact in the capital and he bluffed about the old man not knowing about the passengers. Good job in limiting the access to the operational data to those who really must know, but a confusing plot twist to the viewers.


DatRandomDude said:
Lewl, looks like 'murica is going to betray Eylstadt

MURICA, FUCK YEAAAAH

Atlanta will bring them some good old freedom and democracy!
Nov 20, 2016 2:20 PM

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a world war is going to break out
Nov 20, 2016 2:36 PM
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The first episode was a fluke as the rest of the series so far is just bad.
bla bla bla
The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?
Nov 20, 2016 3:21 PM
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thenekojo said:
Ricelt and Bianca ...I was shipping that but I knew it would be his last episode...Still sad, even if he was "a bad guy" I loved him :(

They can pull something and put him in a coma because he injected himself with witch blood, she actually missed the heart, blah blah blah.

I really don't think they have the balls to kill off one of their few not-shit characters. If he actually dies then Fine death confirmed.
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Great episode as always and a sad one because of what happened
between Bianca and the lieutenant as well.

Hmm the ancient witch legends are just as interesting as their real life versions
lol

But i guess all witches even cute ones like Izetta all come from legends like
this

The lieutenant is quite the reader and scholar
too bad he's on the wrong side here

Lol a kiss from a princess to make everything better
man these two are so cute together
Still amazed that Izetta managed to sink that carrier after all
despite the ambush from that Germanian fighter squadron

hmm a party to cover such important talks
thats a pretty clever cover there

Hmm the lieutenant is still a rookie after all
he seems so innocent though and probably not what those civilians
were expecting their enemies to be

Lol getting picked up by the royal guard commander and Lotte of all people
lol this guy sure is lucky
Lol Bianca blushing at the guys comments and lotte's reaction as well
But he actually blends in pretty well there just as expected of a intel officer
I think Bianca has a crush on him already lol

I wonder what kind of relationship Sieg has with Elvira
they seem to be pretty close in that he's telling her
what he was doing
Its nice that Sieg still remembers Jonas and his sacrifice

Hmm so that was Lotte's mother eh
i guess thats where she got her cuteness from lol
lol Bianca and the lieutenant

lol and you went and screwed that up as well
Bianca would have been a good target for him
lol him barging in when she's having a bath

hmm as masked party eh
well that was the craze back then
wow Fine's and Izetta's outfits look quite dazzling

hmm fancy seeing the Empire's spy chief at the party
and i wonder who that girl that he's with is
another witch perhaps
man that was quite an unexpected action from her though

lol what a way to get past a checkpoint
a pretty dangerous way as well
so it seems that the legend had another darker ending as well
a jealous wife is the most dangerous enemy after all

hmm its too bad that Izetta didn't find that stone when she found that room
now the enemy has it instead

man it must be hard for Bianca though to find that her crush was the enemy
kinda sad that it had to be her that was to kill him though
and tbh he wasn't that bad of a person at all

Wow the royal guard really are good
that was one hell of a shot as well
damn so that old man was an enemy as well
And unsurprisingly the the United States of Atlanta is also going to invade
Elystadt as well just what you expect from bullies like America

Looking forward to see what happens next week
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Nov 20, 2016 8:59 PM

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Though like usual, I seem to be in the minority, but I really enjoyed this episode!
Nov 20, 2016 10:39 PM

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America is going to do a "friendly intervention" to Germania and Elystadt. Prepare the atomic bombs. Not even witches can survive atomic bombs.
Nov 20, 2016 11:19 PM

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SakurasouBusters said:
Though like usual, I seem to be in the minority, but I really enjoyed this episode!


Same, I am enjoying this show just fine. Fuck the haters.
Nov 21, 2016 1:55 AM
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If you wanna see great illustrations of Shuumatsu no Izetta characters you should search this website at first! You can find favorite one for sure.
http://aniex.net/tag/shuumatsu-no-izetta/
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Nov 21, 2016 2:10 AM
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If you wanna see great illustrations of Shuumatsu no Izetta characters you should search this website at first! You can find favorite one for sure.
http://aniex.net/tag/shuumatsu-no-izetta/

After watching episode8, my favorite character is Bianca and Rotte.
I could find good illustrations of them.Thank you!
Nov 21, 2016 3:02 AM

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I'm too lazy to read other comments, but I think the strange girl was the witch of sorts referenced last episode.

Also, how dare they kill off the other male character that I liked. :(
Nov 21, 2016 5:30 AM

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Saito6689 said:
Damn this glasses guy is annoying and everything feels so forced, OF COURSE he knows everything, there is a map, and we know exactly where, because we have a whole archive full of secrets from our enemys!
And now they got their very own magical shoujo out of nowhere. How did they got their hands on Izetta at the beginning in the first place, are the germans in this anime psychics? Those coincidences everywhere...

I can tell this anime will have a shitty ending and i kinda hate myself for watching it but not going to stop at ep 8 now, would be silly.
And this comes from me, a german.

I definitely agree, they need to shed some light on how Rosetta got captured, and who the he'll is that other girl. Moving past that, this episode had a lot of development and progression?. The ending reminded me: in war, foul is fair and fair is foul.... sighs
damn, the forums these days...
Nov 21, 2016 5:42 AM

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I was kinda hoping that Rickert would have some dumb romantic feelings towards Izetta and not Bianca. That was surprising. Still... he dead. Boy be dead. His buddy is dead too.The Royal Guards are fucking awesome.

Still, Fine and Izetta looking like Anime's best yuri couple at the ball. Better than Viktor and Japanese Yuri from Yuri on Ice.

United States of Atlanta LOL Make Atlanta Great Again!
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Nov 21, 2016 7:23 AM

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Beyond certain little naive, I did not believe he could be so engrossing narrative, after a series of incidents not exactly exciting. Albeit subtly telegraphed, the events have been able to make the vision from the beginning to the end engaging. The dead rise, great!

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Everyone's a traitor, lmao XD
Stupid fake farmer got the witches secret :O
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Nov 21, 2016 8:50 AM

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The sheer level of stupid coincidence and omniscient enemies in this episode really highlight the problems with this series. I get that they need to get the story moving, but this was very poorly done. The writing/plotting/pacing seems to be getting progressively worse. Tempted to drop this even though it's so close to the end.
Nov 21, 2016 9:30 AM

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oh sadly berckmans assistant dies :(

It seems that the mistery will be revealed anyway. The girls squad kicked ass.
Also some sort of grey haired (probably also witch/clone) girl just stole Izettas first kiss :o Im pretty sure she wanted it to be with Fine.

I dont get all the hating. Its surely not a masterpiece, but the story is interesting enough and the anime itself is very entertaining.
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Nov 21, 2016 10:20 AM

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wow did not see that one coming. Darn Americans wanting to go to war against Izetta. Plz
Nov 21, 2016 4:10 PM
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Alhakam said:
I think this anime deserve higher score


Nah, it's pretty much crap. The characterization is paper thin and the plot is all sort of contrived and convenient. The only thing it has going for it is the action and the soundtrack. I'm actually surprised it's scoring over 7.
Nov 21, 2016 4:37 PM

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1idd0kun said:
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I think this anime deserve higher score


Nah, it's pretty much crap. The characterization is paper thin and the plot is all sort of contrived and convenient. The only thing it has going for it is the action and the soundtrack. I'm actually surprised it's scoring over 7.

Every one has different taste in anime, I'm not saying it's perfect it has many problems but for me it's one of the best show this session again you don't have to agree with me, and if it's crap just drop it,and don't waste your time and go watch what you like ,I don't get it when people watch a show that they hate to the end
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Alhakam said:
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Nah, it's pretty much crap. The characterization is paper thin and the plot is all sort of contrived and convenient. The only thing it has going for it is the action and the soundtrack. I'm actually surprised it's scoring over 7.

Every one has different taste in anime, I'm not saying it's perfect it has many problems but for me it's one of the best show this session again you don't have to agree with me, and if it's crap just drop it,and don't waste your time and go watch what you like ,I don't get it when people watch a show that they hate to the end


Like I said, the action and the soundtrack is okay. I watch it for that reason.

Still, it's pretty clear the characters are bland and one-dimensional, and the plot is filled to the brims with contrived situations.
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Nov 21, 2016 5:27 PM

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interesting turn of event xD
cause MAL is doing there job for once.
Nov 21, 2016 8:40 PM

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While I've pretty much lost any hope in the story making a turnaround, I have to admit Fine and Izetta looked awfully cute at Redford's party. Disappointed with how they handled nearly everything with Ricelt's spywork, though. I'll stick around for the cool military conflicts and great music I suppose. :p
Nov 21, 2016 9:28 PM

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I'm sad that Ricelt died but he was on the enemy's side and that's just the repercussion of war. I'm gad that Bianca's all right. I was almost certain she had the death flag. *whispers* My ship sunk before it even began...
Nov 21, 2016 10:38 PM

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mozgow said:
It's almost certain that the girl with Berckmann was the one from the tank. But why did they need Izetta's blood? Didn't Ricelt have witch's blood with him?

I think that the stone that felt from the wall was from the rode or staff (or whatever it is called) that the White Which was using. My guess is it could store magical power to allow a witch to use magic when normally she wouldn't be able to do so.

Interesting theory and that would put izetta on great disadvantage ,but why didn't the stone fall down when izetta was there maybe Becuse it's blood from the original witch ,I think the germanian knew already a lot about the witches
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Pretty interesting episode this week.

I've said it once, and I'll say it again; Germania is fucking OP. As I said last week, the Major magically knew what Izetta's weakness was just by standing on a cliff watching her dog fight and blow up the destroyer. Her power fluctuating could've been a million things but he magically deduced the correct answer...because.

The Major also conveniently had a blueprint map of the old castle that literally laid out that there was a hidden room there.

And of course the old farmer guy just happened to be a spy too after they went through the trouble of killing Ricelt and sniping the shit out of the other guy. Bianca's subordinate was badass with that sniper.

Bianca and Ricelt's little connection was tragic and short lived. Of course bad luck Bianca would start to get attracted to the enemy spy. Kind of sucks that Ricelt's thoughts to himself about the war and who he was actually fighting didn't really amount to any kind of desire to change. He was treated super friendly, got to experience the overwhelming kindness of the small nation, and even started having feeling for a girl, but was still like, nahh sorry girl, I'm still Germanian. Plus his little speech before he died held a lot of truth to it.

I'm curious as to what the obvious man made witch girl the Major smuggled into the party bit and drew Izetta's blood for. Clearly it had an effect on her when she drank it....but at the same time, her genetically engineered blood still caused a reaction in that secret room. Perhaps she needed the blood of a natural witch to fully activate her powers or something?

Given Germania's just constant broken OP-ness, I guarantee that the man made witch will be way stronger than Izetta now. Drinking her blood, combined with that red stone which probably houses the White Witches sealed powers will somehow make her god tier.

Some of the new revelations in the story now seem pretty interesting, and because of that I have a feeling that this show wont be having a happy ending. The traditional White Witch story was basically a fairy tale to rally the people of Elsytadt. Though the story that Ricelt told was probably the real one. The prince fell in love with the Witch, got married to someone else but still loved the witch. The prince died and the Witch used her powers to save the country, but the wife found out about their relations and had the Witch stripped of her power and sent off to be burned during the Inquisition. She was then killed because people feared her power too much.

That story now seems to be reappearing in their current timeline now. Izetta breaks her witches rule and traditions to help the princess friend she loves and admires. Now, people are finding out (fucking Murica) and again are fearful of her power, and want to kill her and crush the country. One way or another it seems like Izetta is going to die by the end of this. Probably defending her country from the combined forces of Germania pseudo-witch, and the American army who is now terrified of her.

Makes you feel even worse for Elystadt. All Fine wanted was to stop Germania and have Izetta fight so everyone would leave their country the fuck alone and they could be in peace. She never wanted to use Izetta as a weapon, crush everyone, and turn Elsytadt into some global power. She just wanted to stop the invasion and keep the country as is. Now everyone wants to crush them now more than ever.
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I have a feeling United States will take out Germania while Izetta is battling their Psudo Witch. Izetta will win but be badly hurt and everyone will think she died but no body will be found. Elystadt will surrender to the United States and the war will end. At the very end we will see the Princess probably meeting the Prince and Izetta looking at her from the shadows.
Nov 22, 2016 1:49 AM

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For me, the interesting part of this anime are always the story about the witches and the chemistry between Fine and Izetta.

The war plot has some interesting ideas but just poor execution (ex: the spy dude meeting and feeling sympathies for the people of Elystadt was great, showing two sides in war and all that, but then it ended in some cliche underdeveloped romeo/juliet shit). Fanservice is just eating up time in a short anime with a lot of plot branch.

Well anyway, the ending will make or break it for me to whether I would love or hate this anime forever.

And no love for the sniper Royal Guard girl? She was awesome with that kill.
Nov 22, 2016 5:30 AM
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Plot buildup with Atlanta decision, Germania triple spy map get & prettyspy death was good but worrying how it can get tied up in 4 episodes. Lotte sounds really familiar. Bianca & guards were cool but didnt stand guard over the secret chamber.
Nov 22, 2016 10:07 AM

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Alhakam said:
mozgow said:
It's almost certain that the girl with Berckmann was the one from the tank. But why did they need Izetta's blood? Didn't Ricelt have witch's blood with him?

I think that the stone that felt from the wall was from the rode or staff (or whatever it is called) that the White Which was using. My guess is it could store magical power to allow a witch to use magic when normally she wouldn't be able to do so.

Interesting theory and that would put izetta on great disadvantage ,but why didn't the stone fall down when izetta was there maybe Becuse it's blood from the original witch ,I think the germanian knew already a lot about the witches
Good question. They knew a lot about the witches because they discovered the grave of the White Witch (probably inside Germania territory).

I just thought about some crazy theory
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Nov 22, 2016 1:25 PM

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Did they even explain how they figured out how to open that super secret room with blood? Other than the glasses-guy OP deduction skills?

That pretty ship sank so fast ;_;
Nov 22, 2016 1:53 PM

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Damn this glasses guy is annoying and everything feels so forced, OF COURSE he knows everything, there is a map, and we know exactly where, because we have a whole archive full of secrets from our enemys!
And now they got their very own magical shoujo out of nowhere. How did they got their hands on Izetta at the beginning in the first place, are the germans in this anime psychics? Those coincidences everywhere...


Berkman is the 'inspiration' of Saiki Kusuo.

I'm more surprised of why the red orb didn't reacted to Izetta's blood but of a vial's. This series is not gonna end well....
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Germanians be stacked dayum.

Just wait until the russians and the canadians come in to fuck shit up.

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I just thought about some crazy theory
It's not a crazy theory, they pretty much proved it with the kiss scene and the blood.
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I wonder how the big baddie managed to get in that party.. maybe that noble fatso betrayed Fine and sold her out like in the first epi? The last episode did show that there's a traitor among those important figures so who knows.

The pairing Bianca x Ricelt had soo lil build up for me to feel anything with their confront and his death, it instead only managed to make me salty because of how cheesy it was. but heeey.. at least I got a bath scene with Bianca, which was quit nice but sadly too short.

Both twists in the end caught me off guard, I really wasn't expecting it and it managed to make me feel excited for the episodes to come.
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omg i love bianca and the brown haired sniper in the royal guard their execution in taking down the spies was very enjoyable but at then end i was like wtf when that old ass man came up out of nowhere and took the evidence, izetta shall overcome this
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Alhakam said:
Every one has different taste in anime, I'm not saying it's perfect it has many problems but for me it's one of the best show this session again you don't have to agree with me, and if it's crap just drop it,and don't waste your time and go watch what you like ,I don't get it when people watch a show that they hate to the end

Personally I've watched it up to this episode because the first episode had a lot of promise (the alt-history thing turned me off, but the premise was interesting enough and felt the reunion scene was great) and I've been hoping they'll pull a surprise that justifies all of the forced, contrived - and sometimes absolutely meaningless - coincidences, but with only four episodes left I'm giving up hope.

I think the story would have been much better if it was just a typical highschool setting, largely because the war and espionage portions were so horribly handled that it detracted from... from whatever's left when you take the war and espionage bits out. Fanservice? Izetta and Fine's unchanging puppy-master relationship? The comedy of a poor girl being stuck in a rich environment?

Seriously, if we take the worst parts out of this anime, what's left?
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the new ship just crashed in 1 episode... RIP Ricelt...
that guy in the end also a spy... damn...
wonder what happen next episode...
Nov 23, 2016 3:03 AM
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Every one has different taste in anime, I'm not saying it's perfect it has many problems but for me it's one of the best show this session again you don't have to agree with me, and if it's crap just drop it,and don't waste your time and go watch what you like ,I don't get it when people watch a show that they hate to the end

Izetta and Fine's unchanging puppy-master relationship? The comedy of a poor girl being stuck in a rich environment?


These are the worst part of the show to me. Izetta and Fine's relationship should have been developed, with Izetta progressively gaining more self-confident and becoming more of an equal to Fine. But I guess these writers have no idea character growth is a thing.

The comedy of a poor girl being stuck in a rich environment would have been fine if used to provided character development. Meaningless comedy is a waste of time.
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Germanians be stacked dayum.

Just wait until the russians and the canadians come in to fuck shit up.

mozgow said:
I just thought about some crazy theory
It's not a crazy theory, they pretty much proved it with the kiss scene and the blood.
If it wasn't WW2 setting, I would have no doubt. But WW2 and this? It does not compute.
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