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Oct 8, 2016 2:06 PM

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I knew what was going to happen but I'm still a bit sad. Poor Nemu. ):

On the bright side, Nemu's death is probably the most peaceful death this season. This is going to turn into the Hunger Games real quick.
Oct 8, 2016 2:17 PM

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So far, Lerche is really doing a good job with the adaptation. That's a REAL adaptation, with reorganizing things for the sake of a visual medium.

And the cast is reaaally doing a good job with the voices (and the musics are usually quite good too). Even a completely side character like Nemu's mother had such a powerful emotional breakdown at the end.

But man, no matter how many time I see Nemurin dying, it's still as sad. She's pretty much the record-girl of the fastest death in this series, but she was a really cute and very nice person.

NipahAllDay said:
I found a comment that explain stuff about Nemu from the light novel, if you guys are interested.

"For peoples interested, here are more info about nemurin (that you won't get in the anime as they're from side stories) :

-Total 7,000,000,000,000 magical candies in the dream world. Yes, there isn't too much 0. Nemurin is pretty much god in the dream world, she beat alines invasions, big monsters like we saw, advert end of the worlds, and so on. When you get 400 magical candies for saving 2 peoples, well... If Fab allowed magical candies won in other "worlds type" to count, she would be top of the top. Unfortunately as you know, Fab didn't allow that.

-The reason Nemurin didn't do anything to keep her power is because she didn't like the idea to compete AGAINST the others magical girls. She liked to support them, to listen and enjoy their stories more than anything else. She was basically the nice person that others could have fun talking with, and completely refused to follow Fab's instruction. She purposely dropped out to not have anyone dropping because she made an effort to gather magical candies.

-A little good news for those who liked her. She died in the dream world, while she was pretty much a goddess. Due to that, she's actually still alive somehow for a while in the dream world. She lost any link with her dead body and pretty much any memory with it, so she just wanders from dream to dream saving peoples for several months, slowly disappearing."



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Zefyris said:
that was me actually ^^"
Oh, that's cool. That was a nice coincidence.


Not a coincidence, since i was about to post it there as well when i saw your post , to be frank :D.
Oct 8, 2016 2:59 PM

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SakurasouBusters said:
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So hard to see Nemurin go, she was one of my favorites!
Don't understand why everyone has to hate this series so much just because it's magical girl :( I thought most people do the three times a charm rule.

Because people on MAL have to shit on anything not a hundred percent original


That is true, this community definitely isn't the friendliest.
Oct 8, 2016 3:02 PM
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yassss this is what i wanted. cute magical girls dying and killing each other :) didnt expect the show to take such a darl turn so soon (i thought they would wait until half the season or so since it started so sweet and innocent)
anyway, gonna continue this and lets see how it continues
might be pretty shitty but interesting enough to watch iguess
Oct 8, 2016 3:04 PM

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ZetaZaku said:
Rayla said:
So hard to see Nemurin go, she was one of my favorites!
Don't understand why everyone has to hate this series so much just because it's magical girl :( I thought most people do the three times a charm rule.

It's hard to even take this as a magical girls show when all girls are dressed like ninjas, cowboys and cows. Are cute dresses to hard to design anymore lol. Remember when Card Captor Sakura had a different uniform each episode


You sound just like the main character...
Magical girls aren't just about the outfits.
In the first place, Sailor Moon, the anime that made the magical girl genre mainstream, wore literal sailor suit uniforms! They're defenders of justice and they fight in sailor suits, not exactly the most frilliest and girliest of options, let alone magical.
Oct 8, 2016 3:06 PM

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I knew she was going to die, expected something more dramatic though... :>
Obviously I'm here to see cute little girls despair and kill each other.

So far, I'm seeing little hints and stuff but I don't feel any ominous signs. Waiting for the cruel death game. :D
Oct 8, 2016 3:17 PM

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Pretty good episode. Really like how it seems like they're going to build up the characters before killing them off. At least that's what it looks like. Considering the surprisingly good reputation of the LN (at least from those I heard that read it) I'm actually looking forward to where they'll take this.
Oct 8, 2016 3:20 PM

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Felt bad for Nemurin. This is getting darker and darker.

Oct 8, 2016 3:41 PM

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Rayla said:
ZetaZaku said:

It's hard to even take this as a magical girls show when all girls are dressed like ninjas, cowboys and cows. Are cute dresses to hard to design anymore lol. Remember when Card Captor Sakura had a different uniform each episode


You sound just like the main character...
Magical girls aren't just about the outfits.
In the first place, Sailor Moon, the anime that made the magical girl genre mainstream, wore literal sailor suit uniforms! They're defenders of justice and they fight in sailor suits, not exactly the most frilliest and girliest of options, let alone magical.

Sailor moon was wearing a school uniform. It's the school uniforms that are called "sailor" uniforms. And they still didn't dress as ninjas and cowboys.

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Oct 8, 2016 3:44 PM

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If that little shit "Fav" says "pon" one more fucking time I swear to god...
Oct 8, 2016 3:48 PM

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Poor Nemurin, see died because she was too slothful...


Well, it was kinda sad seeing her die, but given the screentime she was receiving, I already saw her death coming. Oh, well, at least she had a peaceful death, I expected something far more brutal, tbh.
Oh, well, shit has already hit the fan. Now it's time to wait until Koyuki & co discover what would happen with those ranking the last.

On another note, I'm liking Top Speed and Ruler a lot. Hope they last sometime before die (if they really die, of course).
Oct 8, 2016 4:03 PM

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It's sad to see Nemu go. She was going improve herself by not being a NEET anymore, but nope :( I hate that thing that says pon, and Kano saying tch multiple times. It is so annoying. Seems like it's going to get darker.
Oct 8, 2016 4:03 PM

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Rayla said:
SakurasouBusters said:

Because people on MAL have to shit on anything not a hundred percent original


That is true, this community definitely isn't the friendliest.

I wouldnt really go that far, MAL for the most part is very friendly, just not as much when it comes to new things.
Oct 8, 2016 4:06 PM
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Eh, I know others having been saying otherwise, but I liked it. The crap finally started, when she went RIP. I'm really looking forward to see who dies next. I feel like this show feels strong similarities to Future Diary, but I didn't like Future Diary. Already I see it as better than that so...

I'll see you next episode?
Oct 8, 2016 4:09 PM
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Djidji said:
upupupupupu, pon.


I died at this. It could be such a good cross-over.

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By the way the cute NEET's gone for first, so sad. :|
Still, I am not sure she's really "dead", what if she's blocked in another world or something? But still, we are getting into the dark side of the game, I like that.
Oct 8, 2016 4:17 PM

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Death game. Holy shit. even tho this looks like Madoka Magica rip off to me, but it still looks so fucking thrilling. probably because of the SoL Elements or just to be straight foward, it's because of the moe elements in it. comapred to madoka magica, it doesn't have any cuteness on the character, IMO. but in this anime, it has pretty big of it. and when i saw one of them died in a horrible way. well, that death didn't look horrible but how she died seems to me horrible to me. just look at her mom was waking her up and suddenly and slowly get surpised that actually her daugther died. died while sleeping is the worst thing ever to me so i got pretty scared to in the end.

anyway, although this anime looks really similiar to madoka magica, i still think it's pretty good but at the same time, i think its a little bit to rushed xD madoka magica starts it's despair in episode 3. but...whatever. i hope they can keep up the despair xD

looking foward to the next episode.
why when i was about getting to like the character, the character suddenly died.
Oct 8, 2016 4:22 PM

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ohanae said:
I knew what was going to happen but I'm still a bit sad. Poor Nemu. ):

On the bright side, Nemu's death is probably the most peaceful death this season. This is going to turn into the Hunger Games real quick.


Of course, it is unlikely that title is second Madoka, but I'm intrigued by the course of the story. If it goes further, then I will gladly add it to favorites GakkouGurashi from the same studio.
Oct 8, 2016 4:24 PM

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xshirino said:
Djidji said:
upupupupupu, pon.


I died at this. It could be such a good cross-over.

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By the way the cute NEET's gone for first, so sad. :|
Still, I am not sure she's really "dead", what if she's blocked in another world or something? But still, we are getting into the dark side of the game, I like that.


It would be too optimistic outcome for the typical wannabe-deconstruction title.
Oct 8, 2016 4:31 PM

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Nemurin's death was cruel, in the sense that she never saw it coming. Fuck you Pon.


Oct 8, 2016 4:36 PM

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Oh god, I actually got hit with some feels in this. Not too many as in tears-inducing but enough to make a lump in my throat. RIP Nemu.
Forever wishing for an unrealistic Anime romance.
Oct 8, 2016 4:43 PM

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P.S Pretty ironic, but if I'm not mistaken, now Nemu have more fans than other girls
Oct 8, 2016 4:43 PM
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RobertBobert said:
xshirino said:


I died at this. It could be such a good cross-over.

- -
By the way the cute NEET's gone for first, so sad. :|
Still, I am not sure she's really "dead", what if she's blocked in another world or something? But still, we are getting into the dark side of the game, I like that.


It would be too optimistic outcome for the typical wannabe-deconstruction title.


That's true. Well, I'd prefer her dead, mainly for the plot, but I feel like it's too rushed that's what makes me skeptical.
Oct 8, 2016 4:51 PM

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xshirino said:
RobertBobert said:


It would be too optimistic outcome for the typical wannabe-deconstruction title.


That's true. Well, I'd prefer her dead, mainly for the plot, but I feel like it's too rushed that's what makes me skeptical.


This is normal, because it is an example of trolling the audience in the story. First you are shocked, and then you will enjoy the resulting emotional experience.
Oct 8, 2016 4:55 PM

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Did Nemurin die because her power ran out when she was in someone elses dream or did she die because she had the lowest amount of candies? This is what I really want to know.
Oct 8, 2016 5:03 PM

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i dont give a fk to a death of a random character who appears in two eps only.
Oct 8, 2016 5:34 PM

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i dont give a fk to a death of a random character who appears in two eps only.

that's your problem. You're not supposed to feel emotional in a battle royale story about every single character named and voiced, just about those who survive long enough.
FYI, Nemurin dies even faster than that in the novel (since they partially adapted a short story about her that was published later). Obviously the author never ever intended to have you getting "feelz" about it. Stop thinking that this is a kyoani anime or other "artificial feelz inducing" type of anime series. This is a battle royale. A one cour anime with 16 characters. It is obvious that lots of them are not going to get developed. That's not possible, no one can do that, and that's not the goal, and it's not necessary honestly.

Although I would say that Lerche really did a good job making it emotional so kuddos to them.
Oct 8, 2016 6:11 PM

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Even though this show just seems to be a ripoff of Madoka Magica and SAO, I like it so far and will keep watching. Just because it isn't original doesn't mean it can't be good. The final scene was well done even though I pretty much guessed what was coming.
Oct 8, 2016 6:48 PM

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This is going to be worse than Madoka and YuukiYuuna ( ´_ゝ`)
Poor Yumiri Hanamori ;_; pon
Derp Happens.
Oct 8, 2016 7:14 PM

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So much "pon" this episode that it got me legitimately angry.
Oct 8, 2016 7:24 PM

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Pretty slow episode for the most part. That ending took a dark twist though I expected something like this to happen at some point in the show to kickstart all the darker themes. Got a lot of Madoka Magica vibes from that ending as well.

Can't wait for the new episode next week! Hopefully, next week will start this battle royale.

Oh and Fav is confirmed Kyubey 2.0
Oct 8, 2016 7:55 PM

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NipahAllDay said:

-A little good news for those who liked her. She died in the dream world, while she was pretty much a goddess. Due to that, she's actually still alive somehow for a while in the dream world. She lost any link with her dead body and pretty much any memory with it, so she just wanders from dream to dream saving peoples for several months, slowly disappearing."


oh well... bittersweet is still sweet. also, is that "memory loss" limited to the knowledge of her death or does she forget about her life entirely?

either way i can assume she is gonna pop up later in the story for a purpose so yay.

Zefyris said:


Although I would say that Lerche really did a good job making it emotional so kuddos to them.


truly. even tho i was already watching this cause its a magical girl battle royal, being able to establish an emotional attachment w/ a character that had so little screen time is very promising in my eyes.
Oct 8, 2016 7:57 PM

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I hope for blood bath next episode 😈😈😈😈😈 but poor Nemurin she was cute and good 😭😭😭
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Oct 8, 2016 9:28 PM

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I'm kinda sad for the girl, I was taken aback due to the fact that the episode was very cheerful and shit but no, it really has some Daganronpa + Madoka vibes, that little shit fav is more annoying than Kyubey and Monokuma combined.
Oct 8, 2016 9:45 PM

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when she got deleted i was waiting for her avatar to get dragged off to "punishment time" still got Danganronpa on my mind, was expecting the first death to be sorta edgy in the end it more fucked up at least she died the most peaceful way you can.



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Oct 8, 2016 9:51 PM
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So, quick little rant here: I think the way Nemurin died is a testament to the lack of ability of the writer(s).

In my opinion, Nemurin was killed for two reasons: For the shock factor, and because her powers were troublesome. Not to the other girls, but to the story.

The whole concept of this game they're playing is that the girl with the least amount of points at the end of the week will die, right? So, if this is the case, the girls that have easy powers for earning candies will be the ones that have an advantage. I'm gonna call it now, Calamity Mary will start hunting magical girls later on. So factoring that in, the two important things in this game will be the ability to earn candies easily (Snow White's power is ideal for this) and fighting ability, whether that be getting into, winning, or avoiding fights (Calamity Mary, the Ninja girl, and La Pucelle will probably be good at this, expect Snow White getting white knighted by La Pucelle)

So where am I going with this? Well, the thing is that if Nemurin lived, she would be automatically safe from the game. Think about it. If her dream helping counted in the real world (god was that stupid,) then she would have A) an easy way to earn candies, and since no one knows her and she doesn't have to leave her house to use her powers, she has B) an ideal way to avoid a fight; hiding. You're asking, "So what? Even if that is all true, why does that matter?" Well, this brings me back to point two: She was killed as a plot device. She was killed as a way to say "whoa, our show was totally edgy, look, she died!"

And I think that's what makes me the angriest about this whole thing. There were a million ways they could have done that twist better, but I bet they thought "I bet we can copy the "Protective kind character suddenly dying early on indicating a total shift in tone" thing Madoka did and no one will even notice!"

She could have been used in a lot of interesting ways later on too, like if she wanted to go on the offensive, she could have invaded others' dreams as a psychological attack, or they could have pulled a "if you die in the dream you die for real" and that would have had given a sense of danger to her life. They could have even used her as a good way to show the reactions to the bloodbath happening from the viewpoint of a character that was for sure safe. They could have had her sacrifice herself for someone or even suicide, and all those potential outcomes would have been better than what they ended up doing. As a matter of fact, she pretty much went along with the whole thing, and hung the freakin' noose around her own neck.

TL;DR Nemurin's death was handled very poorly, and it makes me worry for the future of the show

An addendum: The reasoning they gave for her death rubs me the wrong way, just personally. From the show, they say "she didn't put effort in in the real world," or "she was always hanging out online," and "only helped in dreams." To that, I say, are those ways of helping not valid? It may be just me, but the insinuation I'm getting from that is "psychological help is inferior to physical help." To me, the therapist helping a soldier with PTSD is just as helpful and important a person as that soldier.

EDIT: To be clear, I'm not mad about the fact that she died at all, just that it was handled exceptionally poorly, and beyond that, that she was even a character at all. If the writer knew the plot from the beginning and made all the characters, why would he make one that has such problematic powers to the story? I know that they needed to kill someone off, but I don't think that Nemurin was a good choice. I would have liked to see the ninja or someone like that be killed off first, just to mess with your expectations. Like, you think they're gonna be important to the story, and them bam! dead.
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Oct 8, 2016 10:09 PM

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OH.I.SEE.

Is this how are you gonna be? Huh, BASTARDS!?

Killing a fellow dream voyager, my favorite mahou shoujo at that. And I decided to watch this episode just when I was about to go to sleep. I don´t care. I will meet Nemurin-chan in my lucid dreams *sobs*
Oct 8, 2016 10:12 PM

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Fucking go away forever Fav. Please. PLEASE. Ripple is also a close second with the amount of "Tch" she's done.

La Pucelle is a dude. La Pucelle is a DUDE. LA PUCELLE IS A DUDE...Must...not...make...him...a...waifu...or...I WILL END UP WITH A HUSBANDO!

Kidding...Sorta.

I really like Ruler's costume for some reason. Mary Calamity is established as the bitch of the series and Nemurin is my new favorite.

What...the fuck...I just named a new favorite and she's dead already!?

God damn it.

3/5- I was interested in how this would unfold after last week and it appears that the girls simply just die if they are in last place. I have a feeling that when the girls and boy finds out that Nemurin is dead, the magical girls at the bottom will probably set their sights on the people on top and fight/kill them. I felt some parts were cringe worthy but that's to expected in any magical girls series but I'm still very interested in this series. It's not great, but it's not bad. Just average thus far. The dark side of this series is starting to show itself, though I expected the death to be more brutal rather than just passing away.



Oct 8, 2016 10:16 PM

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The climax to this episode is somewhat disappointing. We already know what's going to happen when you "lose", but dying peacefully on your bedside is kinda... mellow compared to the very first shot of the show. Everyone watching this while it's airing has more or less seen Madoka Magicka and come in with expectations (regardless of whether you want to compare it or not), so I would love to see this anime start to make some significant distinctions.

//Ayana reminds me of my elin in tera, somewhat//

@ozzi9816
I doubt it. Based on her personality, she's pretty indifferent to the concept of the competition, and so wouldn't have been interested in fighting. Even with that other useless character (I forgot her name) in the competition, it would be hard to top the bottom, so there wasn't really a better candidate for the first strike than her.
Oct 8, 2016 10:18 PM

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I know that the first episode warned us that this anime will be a dark one but damnnnnn .. after I starting to like nemu .. and they killed her in the last scene .. well played .. rip nemurin
Oct 8, 2016 10:30 PM

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welll that was dark....so the girls die if they lose.....what...what... I never thought it would be this dark
Oct 8, 2016 10:32 PM
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@nep-nep I mean, even so, I can't help but feel she was killed off so they didn't have to deal with the logistics of her powers later on, which could have been very interesting

In addition, I think that her becoming a kind of "magical girl therapist" or something would have been interesting. Trying to calm the other girls down, while some are blaming her because she's earning candies for doing even that, etc
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Hmm.....I still can't be sure that every dropped out Magical Girl would have to die.

Nemurin could be just trapped in the dream world, since her power was stripped when she was in it.

Ripple's power about her Shuriken precision sounds good, but how would she gains candies with that? Killing some criminals with it?



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Oct 8, 2016 10:59 PM
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SakurasouBusters said:
Rayla said:
So hard to see Nemurin go, she was one of my favorites!
Don't understand why everyone has to hate this series so much just because it's magical girl :( I thought most people do the three times a charm rule.

Because people on MAL have to shit on anything not a hundred percent original

Most true statement I've ever read on here
Oct 8, 2016 11:19 PM

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I'm honestly surprised she was the one to die first. She had a really kawaii characer design.

As of rightnow I personally have no complaints as its to early to tell. Music is really good too
Oct 9, 2016 12:08 AM

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So this episode shows a lot of stuff. We get some time off Koyuki and focus on Ripple, Top Speed, Calamity Mary, Ruler and her gang, and Nemurin. The magical girls are to collect magical candies and the one with the lowest score at the end of each week will drop out. And by dropping out Fav means dropping out of life too. This is probably in line with the whole "nobody shall know about the existence of magical girls". Could be that they don't have any memory erasing thing to erase all mahou shoujo related memories and this is what they've come up with. Or it could be that Fav doesn't think of these mahou shoujos as humans but thinks of them as characters in a game or tools to be used and killing them off is no problem at all. Nemurin dying was unexpected because I thought that they will start off by killing some unknown girl as compared to someone they just introduced now because they kinda introduced a bunch of girls before killing off Nemurin.

No one knows yet that dropping out of the mahou shoujo club means dying and when they will find out that this is what's happening, the fear will really start to set in. Most girls were taking this halving the numbers lightly and killing off Nemurin only served the purpose of telling that don't take this shit lightly.

They also showed that not all mahou shoujos are on good terms with each other. Calamity Mary doesn't like Top Speed and Ripple. Ruler doesn't like the newbie overtaking everyone. Fighting is inevitable here now. Snow White will be getting some enemies I think.

Really starting to like this show now. Gonna be cool. I would like that they focus on each girl and make us root for one of them given their reasons for wanting to continue or whatever. That could be cool.
Oct 9, 2016 1:24 AM

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It sucks to see Nemu die first, as she was really eager to stop being a NEET and was ready to get back into society with a job. D=

Seriously, Pon needs to be butchered by the time this show ends! >_<

Overall, this episode was good once more. It was interesting to see more of the other magical girls and their interactions with each other, but I probably won't like Calamity Mary at all though. She acts a bit too high and mighty and needs a good pounding if she pushes her luck too far in the future...

Either way, I'm looking forward to seeing how this show develops further on. It probably won't be long before the potential clashes and battles become more brutal.
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I don't know what you guys are talking about. The ending this episode just felt kinda forced to me. It was fairly predictable and it didn't really affect me in any way. I didn't really care about Nemu.

Some good exposition, I guess. And maybe some characterization for Ripple and Top Speed. Other than that, I can't really find anything remarkable about this episode. Too early to judge the entire show though.
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Quite moe episode. RIP Nemu. Like this episode.
Oct 9, 2016 1:39 AM

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WHY did it have to be Nemu :(
Innocent + Adorable = Dead
Oct 9, 2016 1:56 AM
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poor Nemurin, you could still enter in my dream.
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