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Tyrel said: Worst episode of the entire series. The changes here were veryyyyyy bad IMO. The fight in the game was so much more impactful than it was in the anime. And the squire pact... LUL. Also, Rose best girl. They probably did that in order to skip the whole dungeon, but yeah, it sucks. Btw, here's my ranking: Rose > Edna > Laila > Random Girls (Ian/Sirel) > Alisha #team Rose |
| A decent ending, I think. I mostly enjoyed this show, but at the same time, I didn't really get that much into the show somehow. 7/10. |
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| I hope Alisha rejoins the group soon. I get that she has political stuff to do but at this point she has become almost like a secondary protagonist and the got to make that pact with Sorey. Also, Lord of Calamity kinda looked like Leomon from Digimon. At least to me. Overall I enjoyed this season and I'm looking forward to next one. 7/10. Needs more Edna. |
| Ehhh. I know it's just one big advertisment of game, but putting another adv (ToB) is just to much for me. I didn't see anything interesting is this title, but prologue gave me hope (8/10). Aside good animation there is just nothing to find in this title. Where are you going Ufotalbe? I don't know if I give it a chance in second season. For me 4/10. |
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PerlaNemesis said: I hope Alisha rejoins the group soon.  I hope not, because there are lots of better characters. Alisha already got too much screen time. |
| 11/10. Hype for season 2 is real. |
| Ever since the Tales of Berseria episodes happened, I feel like the story got worse and this last episode was probably the weakest yet. If it wasn't for the amazing visuals, I doubt I'd even consider it worth watching. 5/10 |
| 5 main aspects I base my ratings on: 1. Did DramaEnthusiast make a thread about it? 2. Is it better than Breaking Bad? 3. Did MellowJello recommend the shit out of it? 4. Has it caused a (very entertaining) shitstorm on MAL? 5. Is it actually good? Scratch the fifth point, it's not very relevant... |
| Hmm... this war arc had it's moments but I think it was much better done in the game, the ending of the war arc in the game is much better as well. In any case... I sure love it how they ended Alisha's storyline with her becoming the squire but the anime newer even explained what squire is to begin with. The last boss sure failed to deliver as well. As what he did was basically this. "HAHAHAHAHAHAHA... I will let my mortal enemy live for now so he can become stronger in the future fight against me and defeat me with his nakama power-ups!" |
geralt said: dont worry it will only get worse from here lolEver since the Tales of Berseria episodes happened, I feel like the story got worse and this last episode was probably the weakest yet. If it wasn't for the amazing visuals, I doubt I'd even consider it worth watching. 5/10 |
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| The Lord of Calamity does not mess around. He is way too powerful for Sorey. Too early to fight him & need more time to level up. Rose was real pissed off. Glad Alisha is OK. Managed to clear out all the Malevolence. Dezel made it for the last episode. Nice to hear Daisuke Ono. Sweet moment between Sorey & Alisha. She can finally see the Seraphim. So happy for her. Sorey got a bit angry with Landon, but was able to control his emotions in the end. Well off to Rolance with Rose on another adventure. Nice of Dezel to join as well. Was not expected too much from this series, but turned out to be really enjoyable & fun to watch in the end. Beautiful art & animation throughout the series, especially loved the buildings of Ladylake & the environment. Great OST. Thanks ufotable & everyone involved in the production. Great work. I look forward to Season 02 in 2017. Overall 8/10. |
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| *Sigh* The shitty writing of the game is still felt strongly. I REALLY hope Berseria hijack happens at this point, because this was one of worst episodes even by zestiria standards. This was so braindead derivative. We even got the "final boss tease" where he randomly decided to retreat giving way for mook battle!. Which would be okay in an average episode sense but the show still did not bother to rise above it's mediocre uninspired directing and choreography, so even that felt boring. What's the worst? The second half of Zestiria's plot is even more braindead and trainwrecky than these last episodes.The first half could be improved via "let's downgrade the shitty trainwreck elements and actually give more screentime to the only decent character(Alisha)". Second half can't be improved or fixed that easily. Berseria save us please. 3/5 for episode. 5/10 for the season. |
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| Looks like the Lord of Calamity watched Danganronpa Despair Arc and turned into Despair... oh, I mean, a Hellion :D |
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| That scene where Alisha can finally see the seraphs is great and all, but there's a bit of comedy for me, too. It's like "Lailah! Mikleo! And... Um, I'm sorry but who are you, little girl?" Dezel flicking up Rose's dress was ok, but a little cliche. I mean, not completely cliche, but kinda. |
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| That Sorey x Alisha moment though haha pretty cute scene between them. If anything Studio Ufotable's art/animation never fails to disappoint me. The plot isn't anything too amazing, in fact it has its problems. However, this show was definitely visually appealing so good job Ufotable! Glad that Alisha is ok and that she can now see the Seraphim. That squire pact between Sorey & Alisha is interesting as well though I don't exactly remember them explaining it........oh well. That final confrontation between Sorey & Landon was handled pretty well. I seriously thought Sorey was gonna give in to his emotions, but I'm glad he handled the situation correctly. Overall, I enjoyed this show and Ufotable did a good job once again in the show's production. 8/10 looking forward to watching Season 2! |
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| She should have died, just saying. |
| In my opinion this was the best anime of the season, I really enjoyed this plot and I look forward to see the cross between the stories, no need to talk about the quality of the animation, the soundtrack and development were also excellent, I really liked the characters and the interactions between them. Sorey showed a great development as the protagonist and made me very excited to watch next season, the Seraphims appear to have unique and extravagant personalities, leaving more fun the plot, and now I hope a second season even better than the first .. |
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Inugirlz said: She should have died, just saying. While I do not wish for her death, it certainly would have been an impactful end to this season. No Waifu is safe from despair :( |
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| Well, I don't know anything about the game so, I didn't understand if Alisha died and now has a name like the seraphims. She can see the seraphims now? A regular show for me. |
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| that Lord of Calamity is one bad motherfucking cat nice to see that Alisha can see Seraphs now thanks to that Squire Pact with Sorey |
| So its over. Last episode is okay. I thought Alihsa was gonna die at first. I like the art and quality use by ufotable. Not that Alisha is a squire, she can now see the seraps. Not much to say, but it was entertaining nonetheless. Not excited for the 2nd season next year, but I'll try to watch it and hope it gets better. Its good to see that evil twintailed girl again. I find her mysteriously cute. |
| Decent finale. I was expecting more from that fight though :/ Visuals was pretty great and I enjoyed this series. 7/10 |
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| Only knock was that two filler episode about the new tales game. They could have just ova that but pretty sure Bandai call up Ufotable and ask them to promote that. I do enjoy the change as well. Pacing was not as good though. |
| 7/10 Acceptable, but didn't fulfill my curiosity. I guess I had to watch previous seasons or play the game, to understand most things that happened on the anime. Also, the final fight was crap; "Lul u ain't strong enough, here, fight my minions". Kirie-san said: It was better handled in the game : The changes they made in the anime don't make any sense... I'm afraid for the second cour... Anyway, good to see Sergei. That ending is much better, I guess they were trying to go for a new ending, but still... |
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| It's time for Rose vs Alisha S2 lol Sooo at least this show had a different way of doing things. This one took a more serious approach. It still won't save them from the amount of salt though <3 Love it or hate it, 7-8/10 here |
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| That naive princess is still alive. what a waste. The shepherd is not strong enough even with those seraphim at his disposal. Another waste. They should have killed that army general or whatever his status was. Instead of shepherd, lord of calamity pov is more convincing. why there is no OP character in this relatively good anime? Another wasted potential. :( |
HijaziSep 27, 2016 9:56 AM
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| well let's just wait for the second season |
AxelucardSep 26, 2016 12:03 AM
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sicaelisabeth said: Why the gang feels like befriend with Dezel already? When did they meet him in the anime? I'm sad to say it, but this anime just keep taking a different route and abandon the point of the story. I'm watching the anime because I love the story they made in the game, but this? They keep removing the scenes I love and make Rose like a trash :( Rose at this point in the game didn't even have lots of scenes so i fail to see how that makes her trash. It's the complete opposite for me. The anime removed unnecessary scenes and improved it imo. |
Inugirlz said: She should have died, just saying. You DO realize that Alisha is pretty much the only character Zestiria players genuinely like, right? Sorey has his fans ans fujos love him but he is generally regarded as the WORST Tales MC and one of the most genuinely derivative characters. Rose is pretty much universally hated by the fandom as it should be. Other party members are just jrpg tropes. While one of the most frequent complaints about Zestiria game is that it shelves Alisha and did not give her attention her character deserves, essentially trading a more interesting character for a mary sue. Removing or altering shitty scenes and giving more screentime and characterization for Alisha is the easy way to improve upon first half of Zestiria's very faulty story. Alas that won't be enough for second half. The development of Zestiria was a complete mess with last minute rewrites, changes in game dev staff and the like and it REALLY shows LegnaOnFire said: Kirie-san said: It was better handled in the game : The changes they made in the anime don't make any sense... I'm afraid for the second cour... Anyway, good to see Sergei. That ending is much better, I guess they were trying to go for a new ending, but still... Rose being insufferable mary sue she is is NEVER Better. What happened in anime was still cliched(then again the whole story is) but anything that knocks Rose down a peg is an improvement. Not sticking to the braindead nonsense of second half of zestiria(even more braindead than the facepalm worthy things in first half) is more of a compliment at this point. zetsubousei_hero said: Only knock was that two filler episode about the new tales game. They could have just ova that but pretty sure Bandai call up Ufotable and ask them to promote that. I do enjoy the change as well. Pacing was not as good though. The common theory is that they will replace most of Zestiria's second half with a Berseria tie-in, thus fixing the problem of most of Zestiria's second half making absolutely zero sense. Its also not a filler since Berseria is set in far past of Zestiria and those episodes help to establish a more clear sense of good and evil being a point of view, instead of having clear-cut "good guys and bad guys" idea. |
AhenshihaelSep 26, 2016 3:26 AM
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Fai said: You DO realize that Alisha is pretty much the only character Zestiria players genuinely like, right? Dafuq did i just read? Tales of fanbase is a cancer. Well, it's hella funny how they suddenly started to praise Xilia... Because we hate Zestiria now, right? Average player doesn't give a damn about Alisha. Hell, I was so happy when that naive bitch finally left my party. She was useless even in combat (I finished DLC with Rose, since I couldn't do anything with Alisha's lame skills, lol). I bet that normal people just like Rose/Edna and hate Alisha. Hell, people who like Alisha probably didn't even finish that game. Emirius said: No thx. Fuck Rose´s asspull armatize. Glad they didnt include that How is that an asspull? Everything makes sense. They even hinted it properly. |
Kamiyan3991Sep 26, 2016 4:28 AM
Kamiyan3991 said: Fai said: You DO realize that Alisha is pretty much the only character Zestiria players genuinely like, right? Dafuq did i just read? Tales of fanbase is a cancer. Well, it's hella funny how they suddenly started to praise Xilia... Because we hate Zestiria now, right? Average player doesn't give a damn about Alisha. Hell, I was so happy when that naive bitch finally left my party. She was useless even in combat (I finished DLC with Rose, since I couldn't do anything with Alisha's lame skills, lol). I bet that normal people just like Rose/Edna and hate Alisha. Hell, people who like Alisha probably didn't even finish that game. Emirius said: No thx. Fuck Rose´s asspull armatize. Glad they didnt include that How is that an asspull? Everything makes sense. They even hinted it properly. Game fanbases are even worse than anime fanbases . But i disagree about the whole average player thing. i liked alisha (and rose too) though edna is my best girl. Honestly this whole alisha-rose thing is stupid especially that it was exagerrated by the fanbase . I didn't have anything against rose armatizing though it happened pretty quick lol, but her randomly saving sorey out of no where in her assassin's outfit though she has no business on the battlefield which felt like a deus ex machina, and i'm glad they didn't make it the same here . Funny she said after that "i don't know why i did it" lol . Seriously , if people want to complain about a character, it should be poor dezel . The story itself was alright for me. It had some flaws of course, and I welcome fixing them. But Overall, I enjoyed Zestiria much. It's more enjoyable than most disappointments we got this year in games .... |
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| i like meebo and edna alisha is typical pacifist and rose is just, i don't know, rose. |
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DragonSlayer_19 said: Game fanbases are even worse than anime fanbases. Oh yeah, you're right. It's kinda sad tho. DragonSlayer_19 said: deus ex machina Well, their base was very close to the battlefield. But, okay, I agree, they should explain it properly. On the other hand, Rose's armatization itself wasn't an asspull (she's always had a high resonance). DragonSlayer_19 said: The story itself was alright for me. It had some flaws of course, and I welcome fixing them. Agreed (the last episode was bad tho). |
| I'm pretty sure that Edna is more loved than Alisha (in the game). Besides, Lailah and Dezel (and Meebo x Sorey mmoments) got the most cheers when they were revealed... Alisha even got the silence treatment. While I love Alisha a lot (game and anime), I find it almost sad how they reacted to Alisha's removal... I find her departure similar to Flynn from Vesperia (although Flynn never really joined your party, but he was clearly playable and thus, removed sometimes during the development). Flynn (XBox360) and Alisha's arena weren't in the front line. They are supposed to change things from within. I didn't like their excuse to remove her from the party (being a burden on Sorey), but I can still see why she can't tag along. It somewhat made sense for Alisha to leave the party anyway. I mean, she's a Princess. Is she supposed to carelessly walk into Rolance when both kingdoms are at war? |
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geralt said: Ever since the Tales of Berseria episodes happened, I feel like the story got worse and this last episode was probably the weakest yet. If it wasn't for the amazing visuals, I doubt I'd even consider it worth watching. 5/10 I felt something similar to this... |
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| So the Lord of Calamity shows up and he says that another Shepherd has shown up which either means that a previous Shepherd came to defeat him but lost, or that he was a Shepherd himself once but got engulfed by malevolence which is entirely possible for a Shepherd as seen in the very end when Sorey was pissed and Lailah feared that he might get some malevolence on him. And the Calamity guy sends a ton of hellions after Sorey to keep him busy. Rose is pissed at Landon and his men for even raising a sword against their own nekoing princess. And she has Landon call for a ceasefire. It becomes easy because a general of Lorence also seemed to be a bit in favor of peace. Alisha is stabbed but she survives. Alisha actually ended up being the one to die (she doesn't die but anyway) just like she said to Rose. And that gets her some respect and admiration from Rose. And Sorey gives her a name and she can now see the seraphs around Sorey. Good for her. And Rose can communicate some seraphs if not all of them. She was talking with the new seraph guy who looks cool and badass especially with those chains. She probably can't see seraphs, but can hear them since she asked Sorey if that seraph was nearby or not. And she will also end up similar to Alisha, as in she'll get a name and will see seraphs. And based on the ending sequence for the Tales of Berseria episodes (the first of the two) she will also be able to combine (?) with seraphs like Sorey. Overall this was quite a good show. The visuals were obviously outstanding because ufotable. The world was quite interesting and the story had a good enough pace. Sorey isn't exactly the most exciting guy out there, but he's okay I guess. I really liked the last few episodes where Alisha's and Sorey's determinations were tested. They were faced with big problems but they came out on top. Alisha's especially since she got herself stabbed but didn't do the same to her countrymen. This had some pretty cool stuff and I'm looking forward to when it returns. |
Kamiyan3991 said: Well, it's hella funny how they suddenly started to praise Xilia... Because we hate Zestiria now, right? Xilia was always good. Not the best Tales game but at least it excelled in likeable characters(something even worst tales games managed to do till Zestiria hit...) and had decent gameplay. The things that Zestiria lacks. Average player doesn't give a damn about Alisha. Hell, I was so happy when that naive bitch finally left my party. She was useless even in combat (I finished DLC with Rose, since I couldn't do anything with Alisha's lame skills, lol). Yes, people who like Mary Sues are bound to prefer Rose over proper characters. "She is just so good at EVERYTHING and pulls powers out of her ass, y'all". Otherwise both in critical reviews and overall opinions you can see that most people think Alisha was treated unfairly in the game and Rose was written horribly and shoehorned as a replacement. You will also note that mediocre gameplay, mediocre characters and braindead forgettable story are the main things most of critical reviews single out as bad for Zestiria. Reviewers can praise customization and some of gameplay features but most of reviews mention bland story and characters, which is a deal breaker for an rpg. it would be just an average rpg with mediocre mechanics but the story breaks even that. And the most common complaint you will find online is the Rose Sue and the way the whole story just makes no effort to make any sense. Most people agree that Alisha held more promise as a character and had a more interesting fighting style while Rose felt like a HUGE downgrade compared to her. Hell even now its clear to see that Zestiria game's story was affected by the personal bias of certain people in production team. Mid-production the some people in production team had a huge feud with Alisha's VA which makes people speculate that the story was intentionally changed entirely mid-production resulting in the mess we got. Kirie-san said: Yep, the "fans" they're talking about are not "real fans" since they only like Alisha and not the game itself. People can't say they are fans of Tales of Zestiria if they didn't like the game, and how the story was handled. I can tell that people who really enjoyed the game didn't care about Alisha since she's not always there. There's no such thing as A "real" fan. Being a "fan" of something does not mean you become blind to negatives of that something. Zestiria is worst Tales game and there's nothing wrong in recognizing that. The devs fucked up. They admitted fucking up. Zestiria was a narrative trainwreck and a production trainwreck. Hopefully a trainwreck on this scale wont ever happen again. hell Berseria feels like a direct response to Zestiria's trashy screw up - Berseria actually has an interesting and complex cast and a more interesting story than "this chaste knight guy is saving the world from hate, y'all!". Its a love letter to tales fans who were so disappointed by Zestiria's mess. Even UFO of all things feels embarassed in adapting Zestiria and does as many changes as possible to try to make it more bearable. Hopefully the Berseria episodes indicate that we will get to see a transition into anime original material that draws from Berseria and improves the complete mess that this game's endgame is. I honestly can't see Ufo managing to fix Zestiria's last half without doing that. All the seraphim and malevolence nonsense sounds like shakespeare compared to Zestiria's endgame. |
AhenshihaelSep 26, 2016 7:13 AM
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How is that Alisha recovered so fast? And what was exactly what Sorey did to her when he gave her that name? I don't understand. I have not much to comment, the first half was good not spectacular so 7/10 maybe? The characters are all likeable, but the one I like the less is Sorey... he's always too happy it's creepy jaja. Personally I think Ufotable put too much effort in the visuals. Those are amazing of course, but I think the script could have been a bit better, maybe a bit more than a bit. Throughout the series there are various moments in where actions are direct like, shot 1: I can't pass the bridge, shot 2: already in horse running to the other side of the river. There were scenes that could have had more shots in between, others more dialogs. In the other hand, there are scenes with too much still frames that do not give the right/more important information to the viewer. PD: That animation flaw when Rose walked among the soldiers. You could see her feet sticking out the other side of the bodies in the ground xD This face is pure sex.    THAT smile. |
HumbertoZeroSep 26, 2016 11:31 AM
| yup, that was fucking boring like the majority of this serie. the only good thing in zestiria wasnt even zestiria but berseria, lolz. idk if im going to watch the second season, i guess it depends how i feel and what will be airing at the same time. Kinda wanted to give a 5/10 but i feel like it was too generous. 4/10 |
DatRandomDudeSep 26, 2016 11:22 AM
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| I really liked this series and Alisha xD I think the two chapters of berseria were bad for zestiria. Waiting for S2 ^^ |
Kirie-san said: We can't really say about the production team (why they decided to remove Alisha) but I don't think it's because of the voice actor, otherwise they could have choose another one... That surely wasn't the case. Japan just loves conspiracy theories like this. Kirie-san said: - characters : we barely see them since they only focus on Alisha Rose barely got some screen time... Kirie-san said: - pacing : too slow, I find the show really boring... Yep, second cour will be way faster, but the damage has already been done. I feel sorry for Dezel. Now, he will barely get any screen time. And he has amazing seiyuu... what a waste, man. |
| So Sorey and Alisha did the squires pact. Why? That seemed utterly pointless since she ended up leaving anyway. |
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_Kairu_ said: yup, better to just kill her off and sorey got TRIGGEREDSo Sorey and Alisha did the squires pact. Why? That seemed utterly pointless since she ended up leaving anyway. |
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