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Dec 23, 2009 10:48 AM

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GarLogan78 said:
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oh and let's not forget no troll faces from Bern and Lambda =_=


seeing them in bed together was good enough for me.


Yeah, that was my favorite part in the whole episode.
Dec 23, 2009 10:51 AM

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I can't believe that the fan made end was better than DEEN's work.
For the anime-only viewers, watch this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juEkoLXXoxo&fmt=18

The ??? tea party, revealing the true colors of Bern and Lamdbadelta :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH_0bX7eWAU


Also Dreamenddischarger, for good measure : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODC6kDfy2fQ
Dec 23, 2009 10:53 AM
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There was dreamenddischarger, approximately when Battler vs Beatrice started.
Dec 23, 2009 10:55 AM

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Loved. It.
This is one of the best animes I've ever seen!
9,5/10 which'll become a 9/10.
Stupid MAL with their non-decimal scores. D:

Oh, and it's an instant fav.
Dec 23, 2009 10:56 AM

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I mentioned I'd post this back in the previous thread to show anime viewers a glimpse of just how much of a troll Bern really is
This here is a series of vids someone made using the VN sprites and the small sidestory Ryukishi released at t comiket as a TIP. It's as Canon as Lambdadelta's diary which some might know and it gives you a glimpse of the real Bern.





Dec 23, 2009 11:01 AM
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Leopard said:
There was dreamenddischarger, approximately when Battler vs Beatrice started.
Um... it was Goldenslaughterer, not Dreamenddischarger...
Dec 23, 2009 11:02 AM

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moldy_tomato said:
Leopard said:
There was dreamenddischarger, approximately when Battler vs Beatrice started.
Um... it was Goldenslaughterer, not Dreamenddischarger...

I was about to point that out
Dec 23, 2009 11:04 AM
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PsychFreak said:
DEEN seems to have done well for the most part with this episode. Waiting for raw for final conclusions....


......They done well BUT use the right music for scenes, no Dreamenddischarger or Dir. Ange's death seemed weak, a bunch of red and blue text was missing and the ending before the "????" seemed abrupt. What the hell DEEN??

At least they used Endless Nine, "Thank You for Being Born", and Goldenslaughter (in place of Dreamenddischarger), but damnit, that's just not good enough. Yeah, 6/10 for me also. Disappointing ending, but I guess this is the best DEEN has to offer.
Dec 23, 2009 11:06 AM
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hirahira said:

6/10 is my final score for Umineko.


Yeah, that's what I gave it too.

So I suppose we can all safely say that there is no anime?

I skimmed quickly towards the episode, can't really comment properly.

No burgers.
No 'dreamenddischarger', but we got 'endless nine'.
And 'goldenslaughter'.
Out of all the things, dragon Kinzo was left it.
Battler is an angsty fuck as usual, didn't give a toss about Beatrice.
Beatrice is made out to be the bad guy, as usual.
No hug, instead we get a scowling Battler saying, 'I'll kill you'.
No emotional confronting.
No, 'MY GOLDEN WITCH'.
No, 'kill me now'.
No troll faces.

Time to bomb DEEN, there is no Umineko anime.
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RetroElectro said:
hirahira said:

6/10 is my final score for Umineko.


Yeah, that's what I gave it too.

I skimmed quickly towards the episode, can't really comment properly.

No burgers.
No 'dreamenddischarger', but we got 'endless nine'.
And 'goldenslaughter'.
Out of all the things, dragon Kinzo was left it.
Battler is an angsty fuck as usual, didn't give a toss about Beatrice.
Beatrice is made out to be the bad guy, as usual.
No hug, instead we get a scowling Battler saying, 'I'll kill you'.
No emotional confronting.
No, 'MY GOLDEN WITCH'.
No, 'kill me now'.
No troll faces.

Time to bomb DEEN, there is no Umineko anime.



count me in
Darklight0303Dec 23, 2009 11:11 AM
Dec 23, 2009 11:07 AM

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the lack of proper red seems to be an on going (unto the end) issue
Dec 23, 2009 11:14 AM
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RetroElectro said:
hirahira said:

6/10 is my final score for Umineko.


Battler is an angsty fuck as usual, didn't give a toss about Beatrice.
Beatrice is made out to be the bad guy, as usual.
No hug, instead we get a scowling Battler saying, 'I'll kill you'.
No emotional confronting.
No, 'MY GOLDEN WITCH'.
No, 'kill me now'.


Even more characterization mishaps by DEEN, I'm not surprised.
Dec 23, 2009 11:20 AM

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5/10 Final score. I guess I'm harsher than you.
Dec 23, 2009 11:20 AM
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Remember this, guys?




No, I don't either
Dec 23, 2009 11:22 AM

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RetroElectro said:
Remember this, guys?




No, I don't either

WOAH THOSE RED QUOTES. THE LAST 2 O_O they always flash by so fast I never saw them properly
Dec 23, 2009 11:23 AM

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Burgers, anyone?
Dec 23, 2009 11:25 AM

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I'll have some ^_^
Dec 23, 2009 11:30 AM
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Only if small bombs are inside them.
Dec 23, 2009 11:30 AM

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Oh shit it's out! What in the world is going? Wut? I got to see this again!

In spoiler my anime list for now.
Dec 23, 2009 11:32 AM

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@Francis: I also posted those vids I mentioned in the last thread so make sure to watch those after that and the teaparty dioptase posted a few comments back

Denwa said:
Only if small bombs are inside them.

You have a stomach covered in tank armor? @,@
Dec 23, 2009 11:44 AM
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so this episode was better than we expected
Dec 23, 2009 11:49 AM

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It least we got Endless Nine and not Suspicion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_rRJRXU7FU
Dec 23, 2009 11:50 AM

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Wow....There is so much 'RAGE' about this episode. So does this mean Umineko is the next Tsukihime anime?
Dec 23, 2009 11:53 AM

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littlegal100 said:
Wow....There is so much 'RAGE' about this episode. So does this mean Umineko is the next Tsukihime anime?

That's exactly what it means.
kaena said:
so this episode was better than we expected

Depends on your viewpoint
Darklight0303Dec 23, 2009 12:02 PM
Dec 23, 2009 12:00 PM

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I enjoyed it.

Nice finale. Not as nice as the VN's end to EP4 but still nice.
Dec 23, 2009 12:00 PM

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I don't think it will reach Tsukihime levels in the hatedom.

For one, the designs in the anime were actually UGLIER than it's VN, instead of more bishonen/moe like in Umineko (this may seem subjective, but I assure you on first sight it's objective).

For two, they adapted the most boring route and the hints to other paths were extremely bad, while Umineko had only one route to adapt and didn't particularly change anything egregious (ommit, maaaaaybe).

For three, even people that hadn't read the VN could find it extremely boring (nothing happened for 4 episodes in a row), while Umineko is, from Anime-only viewers, at most confusing not boring.

For four, I don't think the Umineko fanbase is that dumb. :p

For five and last, JC Staff did Tsukihime, not Studio DEEN. xD
Dec 23, 2009 12:02 PM

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littlegal100 said:
Wow....There is so much 'RAGE' about this episode. So does this mean Umineko is the next Tsukihime anime?


Probably the worst episode for VN fans. But hey, their agony is over because Chiru might not get animated.
Dec 23, 2009 12:03 PM

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And thank god for that ^_^
Dec 23, 2009 12:06 PM

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Rail_Tracer said:

Probably the worst episode for VN fans. But hey, their agony is over because Chiru might not get animated.


Why, thank you. Enjoy your cliffhanger ending.

Ahaha.wav
Dec 23, 2009 12:13 PM

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If that truly ends up happening, it would totally deserve the

Dec 23, 2009 12:19 PM

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LOL I've seen the Beato version but not the Bern one XDDDDD
Dec 23, 2009 12:23 PM

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Darklight0303 said:
LOL I've seen the Beato version but not the Bern one XDDDDD

This one?

Dec 23, 2009 12:24 PM

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yep that's the one XDDD
Dec 23, 2009 1:12 PM

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Ok boys and girls time for the serious discussion of this. The first half got me scared.....Ange what in the world happened to her being all bloodied (highly disturbing and very sad....especially with all that blood/tears)
...don't tell it's because she broke some rules. I do admit Ange's magic of bringing Sakutaro sure screwed over Beatrice by having Maria leave the world where she was in. Ange....T_T why? What was up with Battler's soul? It got stolen? Huh? The second half was EPIC! Battler beating Beatrice with the blue truth and spears with a big pillar spike from the ground ultimately killing Beatrice! Yes x 1 million! Take that Beatrice! Ha!
She is gone! Gone is her body but her soul still escapes?
That is strange. What is up with the ED? Bernkastel and Lambdadelta? Together in some room with sweets and a bed? Bernkastel has a cat tail? Hein?
So is all solved or does Battler have to kill Bernkastel and Lambdadelta now? Really strange ED....guessing it's not over yet. I want second season and see more blood of Bernkastel and Lambdadelta now. Most exciting episode! This series goes down with a solid 9! Ha! Amazing was it not? Still epic Beatrice blood gore death! My satisfaction of that is 100%!
francismeunierDec 24, 2009 8:23 AM

In spoiler my anime list for now.
Dec 23, 2009 1:15 PM

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Beatrice ain't dead you know >_>
Dec 23, 2009 1:16 PM

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Darklight0303 said:
Beatrice ain't dead you know >_>
What! My pics demand a better explanation.

In spoiler my anime list for now.
Dec 23, 2009 1:18 PM

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To kill her Battler needs to solve the last mystery. Though in the novel it's implied that even with that Beato still has at least one more crushing move to use.

ALso you haven't watched the vids posted a few comments back have you?
Dec 23, 2009 1:20 PM

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I need subs...
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francismeunier said:
Darklight0303 said:
Beatrice ain't dead you know >_>
What! My pics demand a better explanation.

Dec 23, 2009 1:22 PM

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francismeunier said:
So is all solved or does Battler have to kill Bernkastel and Lambdadelta now? Really strange ED....guessing it's not over yet.

Nothing was solved. All of battler's blue truth except for the one about Kinzo was way off.

hirahira said:
francismeunier said:
Darklight0303 said:
Beatrice ain't dead you know >_>
What! My pics demand a better explanation.



DON'T REMIND ME T_T
Dec 23, 2009 1:26 PM

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Darklight0303 said:
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So is all solved or does Battler have to kill Bernkastel and Lambdadelta now? Really strange ED....guessing it's not over yet.

Nothing was solved. All of battler's blue truth except for the one about Kinzo was way off.


Wouldn't the one about Nanjo have to be true too? Lambda never denied that one
Dec 23, 2009 1:27 PM

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Problem Darklight0303?
*cackle*cackle*
Dec 23, 2009 1:28 PM

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hirahira said:
Darklight0303 said:
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So is all solved or does Battler have to kill Bernkastel and Lambdadelta now? Really strange ED....guessing it's not over yet.

Nothing was solved. All of battler's blue truth except for the one about Kinzo was way off.


Wouldn't the one about Nanjo have to be true too? Lambda never denied that one

Hmm good point then again maybe she just didn't bother after showing she could cut up all of the blue from the first games
Dec 23, 2009 1:29 PM

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Eh,small bombs weren't denied in red too.
Dec 23, 2009 1:31 PM

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They were in a sense. though not the bombs specifically. Still her reaction I think shows that the idea is as ridiculous as it sounds XD
Dec 23, 2009 1:33 PM

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Well, I didn't expect much of the last episode but surprisingly I somehow liked it. Dreamenddischarger was sort of chaotic in the novel(although the anime version seems to be cleaner)therefore I don't mind that DEEN didn't use it in the anime.

That being said I found the whole adaption more than dissapointing. I'm not saying that because many story elements were left out but rather because it didn't entertain me how it should have. Plus I didn't feel any kind of atmosphere/feeling and the emotions of the characters were just painfully bad in many scenes.

So in the end I can't give it a better rating than 6/10.
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That is so wrong I can't help but laugh >_>

DAMN YOU DEEN. WHERE ARE MY GIANT HEATED IRON PINCERS THAT TEAR THE FLESH OFF OF ANGE???? They replaced it with this =_=
Dec 23, 2009 2:03 PM
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It was used in a more metaphorical sense in the VN. It never explicity stated that we were to be shown that.
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Metaphorical or not it's still better than Ange's sudden period problems followed by her ghostlike disappearance
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