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La_Matona301 said: Sheees, this anime is starting to look like a harem thingy . NO SHIT? Utawarerumono is pretty much synonimous with terms War, Harem and Politics. |
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robis798 said: I have never read bigger bullshit. This is not a circlejerk thread, this is a discussion thread where anyone can post any sort of opinion they want. I couldn't give less fucks about the score or potential viewers ( implying that people just wander into random episode discussion threads ) and if you do, well go ahead and indulge in your naivety but don't push this nonsense to others. You could instead give some sort of counter argument how building a harem and indulging in uninspired rom-com-ish comedy is so beneficial to this show's story. Though to be honest, I don't think there's anything to say reagarding this Well, because it is facts mixed with a little of my opinion, dipshit!! You said it yourself, this is a DISCUSSION thread not a Bitch/whine thread.. If you want to make a Bitch/whine thread create a new one. Exactly, you don't care about ratings or any of that, but what about the others? Not everyone has your complex personality, so some people will look into this discussion as a lead whether to watch the show or not. But, as I said again, this is not nonsense but it facts mixed with my opinions which I recall is a fucking discussion. If you played or even watch the prequel show/VN, you would understand the fucking plot from the beginning and how each character will have a specific role in the story. Also, this rom-com type of business is just the introduction of the VN.. Sort of like the calm before the storm, so I would suggest for you to create a bitch/whine thread for yourself and others. Because honestly,you are just a load of Bullshit. And this shall be the end between you and me |
| Haku you need to move as far away as you can from that girl she's stupid she'll only bring trouble |
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| lmao, stop embarassing yourself |
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| Not much happened but I enjoyed this episode Haku seems pretty quick to forgive Kiuru for trying to shoot him in the face |
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ElectricRed said: Well Ckan.. I have 4 responses 1. Watching the prequel is needed to gain an insight on who these characters are.. For example, Why is Haku considered a legendary name? Watch the first Season? Who does the silhoutte of the girl in this episode look like? Watch the prequel? and etc... Some of these simple questions could just be answered by watching the prequel.. Also, we got a lot of story introduced with just the introduction of several characters and there is still more to come And so, I must respond. To what extent does knowing Haku's deeds directly colour the events of the last five episodes? Not much at all unless you want to point out the essentially similar premise so far. Does recognising a silhouette of a character yet to be introduced mean that it's a major story element? Normally, I wouldn't think so. But I'll confess that I'm not sure. Maybe it turns out that all these hark-backs are significant and will also go unexplained within the show. Perhaps we'll get a short summary of those past deeds alter on? I don't know as I've not played this game, I can't make predictions, but at this point of time the story remains understandable and quite 'complete' quite on its own. Maybe game-players know of some huge development or reference that will be ruined without the prequel knowledge- I don't know, will there be? If there is, then there's a case to be made - for the future of the show, but not in its now. Even so, can even the game-players can say for absolute certain what the anime has in store? If knowing these names and their pasts are so incredibly crucial to this Itsuwari, then fair enough, the prequel should be seen. Non-viewers/readers are missing out on the 'full' story, yada yada. However, up to this point I do not think there has been any such need as it has had no real bearing on the story and events as of yet. 2. You know, why we sometimes badmouth people who complain about good shows, because they are the same type of people who scare away potential anime viewers for this show. The studio needs every penny to continue the Utawarerumono Trilogy. It does not offend me, but it agitates me how people complain for the pacing of a 24 episode show... And we can all agree on what a "good show" is, right? That seems rather unlikely.Certainly, there may be those who might be turned off a show by bad press, but surely the issue then would first be with reviews and bash-threads rather than these episode discussions where so much can be gained from an exchange of differing opinions. As to your last point: I don't think there's any pre-defined 'correct' pace for a 24 episode show, and certainly it's fair to say in this instance that there's the larger part of the show still left to go. On the other-hand that doesn't mean we can ignore that these early episodes have been (seemingly) unimportant, with sparse relationship development and world-building. Not saying this is necessarily a flaw, but certainly many might take it as such. Yes, it's very similar in pattern to the first series. Yes, I suppose it probably must reflect what happens in the game. No, that doesn't give it any magical protection from complaint or criticism - rightfully deserving or not. 3. Every show has faults, nothing is made into perfection however, Bias aids to make a show into perfection in someone's eyes. As far as this show goes, the storytelling is great.. The interactions of the characters opens up to the main plot of the show Yes, positive bias is certainly a powerful thing. So too is negative bias. Surely, you aren't going to say that biases be disallowed? |
| The Princess' voice is sooooo annoying, those inflections in all of her sentences majorly grate on me. |
| His harem is slowly growing.. |
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| Damn...the Princess was annoying as f**k.....poor Haku.... |
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CookingPriest said: La_Matona301 said: Sheees, this anime is starting to look like a harem thingy . NO SHIT? Utawarerumono is pretty much synonymous with terms War, Harem and Politics. Agreed, Yeah no shit sherlock. It's like that they have never played the VN and only watched the first anime which nerfed many of the relationships and characters shown in the VN..hurr durr. |
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| Another bad episode where nothing happens. Seems like the director wants to drag this out as much as possible. |
| Not much happened and the plot is still nowhere to be found. But i still like it. |
| Cute girl with a cute kansai accent. She's one interesting girl. Now there are two princesses with him. |
semtex said: Another bad episode where nothing happens. Seems like the director wants to drag this out as much as possible. Man, some people just want every anime to be porous, rushed nonsense for the sake of saving on time, space, and budget, like Hitsugi no Chaika (especially the second season). If you're annoyed at the pacing of this series at this point then you should just get off the bus at the next stop instead of continuing to complain about it. |
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| Looks like several people here can't deal with conflicting opinions of their favorite show. You obviously can't voice your opinion unless it's praise, I guess. |
chenchouli said: If you're annoyed at the pacing of this series at this point then you should just get off the bus at the next stop instead of continuing to complain about it. You know some people actually think about what they watch, think about what they like and dislike, and have some sort of expectations. Not all of us can mindlessly digest every single thing a cartoon throws at us like a lot of people here are able to it seems. Since when people are forbidden from posting a negative opinion? Finding flaws or things to dislike in an episode means that I should immediately drop a show? Can we please stop this nonsense? |
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| Looks like a possible badass female will be joining the party. Thank god. God I really hope it's her and she brings along the other one. :) |
| Ep was alright, not sure where this is going, still part of intro I guess. |
| Atui stole my heart i think.... That accent is way too adorable. I might have to hop through this episode again just to listen to that voice... The moegasms. That is kansai? i think i just discovered my love for kansai... i can't believe how much i've heard it and not even noticed till i looked it up. |
GenesisAriaNov 1, 2015 10:47 PM
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aeg2138 said: semtex said: Looks like several people here can't deal with conflicting opinions of their favorite show. You obviously can't voice your opinion unless it's praise, I guess. Ok First: This isn't my favorite show; and I gave you a legitimate rebuttal to your claim about "nothing happening" in the episode. Which you have made no effort to dispute and simply gotten defensive for seemingly no valid reason at all. Second: There is a difference between voicing a legitimate opinion about issues one takes with something and posting flame bait. Saying: "Another bad episode where nothing happens. Seems like the director wants to drag this out as much as possible." is not "voicing an opinion", that's just a juvenile and immature crack at something you apparently don't like. If you don't like it, explain what was wrong, why do you take issue with pacing? What did you want to happen in the episode? What do you want to see change in this show? If you want people to take your opinions seriously you're gonna have to put a little more effort forward then, "this episode was bad" when voicing your opinions. God I'm not even in this discussion but I hate this attitude. Get off your damn high horse. People are allowed to say they just like stuff so they're allowed to say they just dislike stuff too. Insisting everyone that ever has a negative opinion has to write a damn 900 page essay just for you to deem their opinion ~*~valid~*~ is some boringass elitist bullshit. |
| Why speak at all if you're just gonna gripe? Though there should be more justification to yourself (not necessarily to others here) as to if it's really worth disliking. Talk about what could be better if it's not up to snuff in your eyes. And don't freak if someone says it's meh. Not everything is for everyone. Lets all get along and share enjoyment of anime. Anybody know more specifically which kansai dialect it is? |
GenesisAriaNov 1, 2015 11:22 PM
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| Atui adorable <33 Haku is the Righteous Man Two new characters join Haku's army OMG did I see those two OMG <3 Next week she's here YAY!!!!!! |
AnimeFan500 said: OMG did I see those two OMG <3 first guy here, two actually realize "two" people... lol |
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aeg2138 said: ^semtex said: Another bad episode where nothing happens. Seems like the director wants to drag this out as much as possible. It's hardly dragging things out, it's just very well done chill paced happenings, and what do you mean "nothing happens"? The main group of characters expanded by almost 20% this episode. It's got a full two cour to flesh everything out, I'm in no rush, since I really enjoy the chill pacing so far. The character dynamics and interactions are all so incredibly well done and written it's just such a pleasant experience to watch each week. ^This so much. A lot of people seem to lack attention span to such a degree that unless shit is exploding every five seconds, its "nothing is happening". No wonder that anything in terms of narrative that can't be described in one sentence is "confusing" by mal user standards. The pacing is great. We are getting worldbuilding and lore as well as establishing characters more. That's what a first half of the show SHOULD do. |
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| nice guy Haku. Get's the girl's without even trying lol. |
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| Nice comedy. So far digging this show, but I want politics and all to take a more prominent role quickly. |
| Another slice-of-life episode. It was kinda enjoyable but nothing happened again. It feels like they are pushing more and more girls on him. And what was that dialect Atui used. She was kinda likeable but I really couldn't stand her voice as it was really annoying, and that's the second one here. They made almost every girl in this anime based on so sweet & moe (non-)character template that it's almost frustrating. First Utawarerumono had bunch of girls of unique personalities that were very different from each other but here it feels like main character is having nursery of shallow one-trait girls made without any thought of their past. I have a big problem to even let them grow onto me as they're not unique enough to catch my interest. |
| New girl reminds me of Shinoa,she looks kinda smug.But still Kuon remains the best girl of the season |
| Lead me out of the dark,bishounen space Jesus. |
CookingPriest said: I love it when shows take their time to tell a proper story instead of spoon-feeding the short attention span that the average western viewer has. The more proper stories there are, the more the average watcher will gradually find their attention span expanding for better artworks.aeg2138 said: ^This so much.It's hardly dragging things out, it's just very well done chill paced happenings, and what do you mean "nothing happens"? The main group of characters expanded by almost 20% this episode. It's got a full two cour to flesh everything out, I'm in no rush, since I really enjoy the chill pacing so far. The character dynamics and interactions are all so incredibly well done and written it's just such a pleasant experience to watch each week. A lot of people seem to lack attention span to such a degree that unless shit is exploding every five seconds, its "nothing is happening". No wonder that anything in terms of narrative that can't be described in one sentence is "confusing" by mal user standards. The pacing is great. We are getting worldbuilding and lore as well as establishing characters more. That's what a first half of the show SHOULD do. ANA1979 said: Haha, right?nice guy Haku. Get's the girl's without even trying lol. ElenirLachlagos said: Extra girls =/= harem. So far we got one mother-role, one fujoshi, and one weird princess. Plus some peripheral. But we'll see where it all goes ^^I didn't know this was going to be a harem... Mich666 said: Plenty happened. Character development, introductions, lots of subtleties to look for if you're paying attention. Also, it's slice of life in another world, not something you see every day. Utawarerumono always was relatively slow-paced. The first just had more tension.Another slice-of-life episode. It was kinda enjoyable but nothing happened again. It feels like they are pushing more and more girls on him. Mich666 said: People are saying Kansai (others say Osaka more specifically), it sounds different than Kansai-ben in other anime. I'd like to see romaji scrips for the ep to find out for sure. Personally i love her voice with that accent. I love the yo's ya's and ye's. You should also adjust to softer/higher japanese voices sooner than later. And what was that dialect Atui used. She was kinda likeable but I really couldn't stand her voice as it was really annoying, and that's the second one here. Edit: Confirmed, seiyuu is from Osaka. It's a bit adjusted though. Atui's got a thick accent on top the Osaka-ben. Mich666 said: Uh, the girls before were damn moe archetyped... But the image of "moe" has changed a little in the years since. There was some other's mixed in, but that was a time of strife. The current show is in a pretty peaceful time (atm anyways). So the complaint is a little short-sighted i think.They made almost every girl in this anime based on so sweet & moe (non-)character template that it's almost frustrating. First Utawarerumono had bunch of girls of unique personalities that were very different from each other but here it feels like main character is having nursery of shallow one-trait girls made without any thought of their past. I have a big problem to even let them grow onto me as they're not unique enough to catch my interest. strife. The current show is in a pretty peaceful time (for now anyways). So the complaint is a little short-sighted i think. |
GenesisAriaNov 2, 2015 8:52 PM
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| Is that blond archer a boy or a girl ? I thought that he was a girl !! The princess is so cute, and has nice looking legs |
| Atui's voice omg she's so cute <3 , reminded me of Marielle's voice from LH instantly. Poor Haku working hard ^^, loved his interractions with Atui. Pretty relaxing and enjoyable episode :D |
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| Yeah most VN's are 20+ hours worth of reading. And that's not always counting alternative routes. |
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D-Joe said: aeg2138 said: It's hardly dragging things out, it's just very well done chill paced happenings, and what do you mean "nothing happens"? The main group of characters expanded by almost 20% this episode. It's got a full two cour to flesh everything out, I'm in no rush, since I really enjoy the chill pacing so far. The character dynamics and interactions are all so incredibly well done and written it's just such a pleasant experience to watch each week. To be fair compare to the game, anime already rushing the plot, it just the game really have so many SoL plots, if anime make a 1:1 adaption, it will need something like 50 episodes to adapt all SoL plots lol. To be honest, nothing important was removed so far and the adaptation is doing a pretty great job. |
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| I really dislike her character design, why can't she have normal body-covering clothes like everyone else? Expectations lowered to harem-fantasy level. |
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MasterMeNL said: Can't a princess have more glamour than the rest?I really dislike her character design, why can't she have normal body-covering clothes like everyone else? |
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| It's really peaceful they always take a bath compare the warring period of the first one, less bath scene. I guess character/story buildup before the main scene. I hope it would drag long, more episode the better! Btw, I'm actually watching anime. LOLOL |
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MasterMeNL said: I really dislike her character design, why can't she have normal body-covering clothes like everyone else? Oh totally right, since Uta universe is clearly such a normal one and everyone only wears "sensible body covering" clothes. oh wait, I have to post this again Expectations lowered to harem-fantasy level. No Shit? It IS a harem Its a war drama tactical rpg visual novel inspired by chinese Three Kingdoms literature and it features a male lead who ascends to a place of power through wit, strategy and coincidence while amassing his own top-level fighter team, which includes a bunch of romantic interests. War, Harem Elements and Politics are kind of the basis of Utawarerumono franchise. |
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| Another good episode. Not surprised. |
thepath said: Is that blond archer a boy or a girl ? I thought that he was a girl !! The princess is so cute, and has nice looking legs well, i guess he is a boy that look like a girl hahahahah But this is 'normal' in utawarerumono. In season one that happened too Loved this episode specially because of Haku's personality. I understand how he felt when his food fell on the floor hahahaha |
straggy said: aeg2138 said: Ok First: This isn't my favorite show; and I gave you a legitimate rebuttal to your claim about "nothing happening" in the episode. Which you have made no effort to dispute and simply gotten defensive for seemingly no valid reason at all. Second: There is a difference between voicing a legitimate opinion about issues one takes with something and posting flame bait. Saying: "Another bad episode where nothing happens. Seems like the director wants to drag this out as much as possible." is not "voicing an opinion", that's just a juvenile and immature crack at something you apparently don't like. If you don't like it, explain what was wrong, why do you take issue with pacing? What did you want to happen in the episode? What do you want to see change in this show? If you want people to take your opinions seriously you're gonna have to put a little more effort forward then, "this episode was bad" when voicing your opinions. God I'm not even in this discussion but I hate this attitude. Get off your damn high horse. People are allowed to say they just like stuff so they're allowed to say they just dislike stuff too. Insisting everyone that ever has a negative opinion has to write a damn 900 page essay just for you to deem their opinion ~*~valid~*~ is some boringass elitist bullshit. Here we go with the salt. I was merely making a suggestion when I said you should stop if you don't like it after 5 episodes, not declaring a flame war. [quote=sun123] thepath said: Is that blond archer a boy or a girl ? I thought that he was a girl !! Not all men are biologically obligated to be tall, wide, and glaringly masculine. It does kind of bug me when people say "oh that's totally a girl" about any remotely androgynous or neotenic-looking guy IRL since I've had people mistake me for the opposite sex more than once without trying to. I suppose it can't honestly be helped in this case since it's anime and the way people are drawn depends on the creators' personal aesthetics and the like, but on the other hand there are a lot of animes and mangas with unrealistically exaggerated sexual dimorphism, like how all the men in JoJo are literally ripped for example. Sometimes it gets on my nerves for some irrational reason even though it shouldn't, but I like it when they actually draw characters in various shapes and sizes rather than just generic, stereotypical male-female templates. But don't mind me, I'm just spouting nonsense because I have nothing better to do right now. |
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| Another unpleasant episode, the narrative focuses on new characters but there is also time left to advance the story, the pattern remains the same but I am satisfied. Drawings and animations excellent, characterization very good, can not wait to follow the next episode. |
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| OK, i think now we had enough with the slow episodes and characters introductions. We do not need any more. Let's get some events going and any new character addition could be done threw the events instead of casual meetings. ElectricRed said: robis798 said: I have never read bigger bullshit. This is not a circlejerk thread, this is a discussion thread where anyone can post any sort of opinion they want. I couldn't give less fucks about the score or potential viewers ( implying that people just wander into random episode discussion threads ) and if you do, well go ahead and indulge in your naivety but don't push this nonsense to others. You could instead give some sort of counter argument how building a harem and indulging in uninspired rom-com-ish comedy is so beneficial to this show's story. Though to be honest, I don't think there's anything to say reagarding this Well, because it is facts mixed with a little of my opinion, dipshit!! You said it yourself, this is a DISCUSSION thread not a Bitch/whine thread.. If you want to make a Bitch/whine thread create a new one. Exactly, you don't care about ratings or any of that, but what about the others? Not everyone has your complex personality, so some people will look into this discussion as a lead whether to watch the show or not. But, as I said again, this is not nonsense but it facts mixed with my opinions which I recall is a fucking discussion. If you played or even watch the prequel show/VN, you would understand the fucking plot from the beginning and how each character will have a specific role in the story. Also, this rom-com type of business is just the introduction of the VN.. Sort of like the calm before the storm, so I would suggest for you to create a bitch/whine thread for yourself and others. Because honestly,you are just a load of Bullshit. And this shall be the end between you and me Sorry but i think you make bad points here. I saw the first season and really i saw very little in this show until now that will feel different if i didn't. Also a person that starts reading into an episode discussion to learn if he/she wants to see an anime is an idiot. Episode discussions are created so we can talk about the episode we saw. Not to check out the anime. Besides why would you spoil an anime you are thinking of watching. Why the fuck should anyone take into consideration such a retarded individual? It seems like a poor excuse from you. Also yes discussion, includes whining about things you didn't like. |
| One more girl to join the harem party... Gonna try one more episode until I decide if it's a drop... |
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