FEMALE MC SUCKS

abyss333 said:
Is it just me or is her character exteremely easy to hate and i hope she sucks in battle and does not become the main love interest

SanjiCC said:

Wow you are still here? You started whining day 1 of the anime about EVERYTHING, can't you just drop it already, it's more like you watch it only to criticize, aka attention whore

Protaku94 said:
Wat. She's prob the best character in the series lol.

Old_Raven said:

This. I mean, she's got a scythe! Who doesn't love a chick using a scythe??

StevenHu said:

Since when has speaking out some of my opinions regarding a run-of-the-mill show whining?

The show is meeting my expectations of being ordinary thus far.

Gmancam said:
Err she is the best character so far...

TheGrandSage23 said:
Manga wise both Yuu and Mika and few characters are better characters than her. Her tongue and cheek humor doesn't fit the atmosphere and she barely contributes to the plot. Plus her having a scythe means jack in regards to character. Her relationship with Yuuichiro is "meh" to me wanting him to slap her. The chemistry isn't there and I know she's supposed to be a love interest but it's not working and the dialogue in the manga is heavy on shonen ai with Yuu and Mika

As someone stated she's just there and that's a fail for a MC. Her know it all personality is similar to Holo except Holo was actually a well written and interesting character

hi-d-us said:

If you actually paid attention while reading the manga you would know that she gets super serious when they're in the battlefield and that was a character development of hers. Besides she wasn't just there, being the sister of Mahiru Hiiragi makes her role incredibly important in the story. I would disagree with anyone who said her character was cliche cause it was rather fresh for a female character to have such a playful and teasing features. If I had to vote for a "worst character" poll it would definitely be Mika. Kid! Mika was a nice character but his obsession with Yuu after he was turned into a vampire is quite ridiculous, annoying even. And so far he's the one with the least character development of all so no, Mika couldn't have been a better character than Shinoa.

TheGrandSage23 said:

If you actually paid attention you would know being super serious means jackshit. If you count that as "growth" more power to you.Plus her sister role has little to no importance to the plot so far. You're trying hard to make her sound important yet she really isn't. And until we actually know about her backstory she will just be there
Oh and Mika has more character development than Shinoa. Mika has an "obsession" First learn what obsession actually is and learn what Yuu means to him
So yea Mika is better written from a story telling standpoint. "he's annoying" and? Can you come up any better reason? Without looking like a person fishing for something to argue back with?unless you're trying to stick up for Shinoa
It's fresh to see female characters with teasing and playful attitudes"yet those female character types have already existed so yea it's cliche and not done well. As someone mentioned Holo and Lawrence it works because of their chemistry and characterization. It fits and isn't cringeworthy
Nice try though

hi-d-us said:

Looks like I struck a nerve there. It is pretty damn obvious that I'm sticking up for Shinoa because she didn't deserve that much hate from you lots.
And yes, it is also damn obvious that it was a character development she received from Guren (after the fight between Shinoa's squad and Guren's he told Shinoa that she messing around during battles could be the cause to her friends' deaths). Really, saying that Mahiru's role has little to no importance in the plot just proves that you weren't paying attention cause the manga has implied several times that Mahiru was somehow the mastermind behind all this.
And wait, so, the fact that females with such attitudes have already existed makes the character "cliche"? Grow up, you might as well call schools with uniforms cliche.
One last thing, if it weren't an "obsession" Mika would listen to what other humans have to say. What kind of character assumes that every human is a "sinner" after hearing that "some humans" did experiments on them? And what kind of character development has Mika got so far? That he needs to save Yuu from the humans? That he can't bring himself to drink human blood cause he still lingers the feeling of being one?(if they're really considered "developments") And? Whoa I'm blown away.

Zeta986 said:
They all sucks, at least the characters from AOT were way better than Owari no Twilight.

EuroSubstance said:
Eh? Hating on Shinoa or any female character that gives off their own form of personality eh? Seeing that "woman need to stay in the kitchen" also goes to show how retarded some of you are when bringing these kind of complaints. Should just mark that up as the OP & others seeking attention while not knowing how to get a date also. If you also have a love life issues then you have to solve this problem right here.

Do I find her annoying? Not really. I actually enjoy her personality because she forces the main character on his toes. I can see why she would be annoying, yet I don't find her such. That sexual harassment comment here though is far more pathetic than Shinoa ever will be.

Do not EVER crack that "woman need to stay in the kitchen" nor "rape jokes", even as a joke or trolling. Be a gentleman, or a gentle-lady and keep off those sexist comments. Even as a troll that's a idiotic low-blow/in severe bad taste that one shouldn't touch. (Should be considered as taboo as bombing the White House of USA). Deanzel & TreF, I worry about woman's safety around you, even if it may or may not have been a harmless joke.

IncestEmblem said:
Despite the absolutist claims in some of the posts, it is rare that a poster truly dislikes a character because she exhibits a teasing, know-it-all personality. Rather, the poster dislikes the particular use the character has been put to in the story. This generally results from the type of main character the tease has been paired with.

Contrast Shinoa and Yuu with Holo and Lawrence from Spice and Wolf. It is undoubtedly true that Holo is a tease and a know-it-all: She is constantly flaunting her knowledge and experience to Lawrence, referring to herself as the sage wolf who has lived many times the lifetimes of Lawrence. But Holo is much more acceptable than Shinoa for 3 reasons: Lawrence makes good attempts to match her; Lawrence is more graceful in accepting her teasing; and it is made clear that Holo's teasing is playfulness.

First, there is the matter of comparable merit between the tease and the protagonist.

Lawrence is certainly not as wise or experienced as Holo, but he is a mature and experienced merchant in his own right. He has a certain level of competence himself, with in witty replies and in interacting with others. While Holo certainly comes off better in most of their exchanges, Lawrence is generally quick to catch on, even when he is initially caught flat-footed.

Contrast with Yuu. He comes from the character mold of the "baka virgin". He has little idea of what Shinoa is talking about and has no wit of his own to come back with. If he has a retort, it is generally a curt telling-off with no subtlety.

The results show a stark contrast: With Lawrence and Holo, they share almost a student and teacher relationship, with the teacher taking something of a roundabout approach like the great thinkers Kongzi or Socrates--a pleasant and amusing learning experience to watch. With Yuu and Shinoa, it comes off as an intelligent person insulting an idiot--mean-spirited humor at best and bullying at worst.

Second, there is the matter of individual perception.

Lawrence is rather often startled at what Holo says or does, but he generally accepts her behavior and words with good grace. Even when he does not agree with what Holo does, he generally appreciates her behavior.

Yuu is obviously annoyed with Shinoa and is constantly telling her off. He sees her as an intrusion into what he wants to do and has no patience with her.

The way Lawrence accepts Holo suggests that their interaction is the playfulness between friends. That Holo's teasing is also a treat for the audience is a bonus arising out of their friendship. The interaction between Shinoa and Yuu suggests rather strongly of sadism--of one person tormenting another.

Third, there is the matter of establishing the teaser's respect for the teased.

Toward the end of episode 2, Holo starts to recite to Lawrence the details of wolves' attack on humans. Lawrence, being the victim of wolf attacks several times and having lost companions to wolves, had a bad reaction and emphatically told Holo to stop. Holo, realizing that she crossed the line, stops and apologizes.

Shinoa has not had occasion to come near the line of what really touches Yuu, though she is constantly grating him in less important matters.

The episode 2 scene firmly establishes that Holo meant nothing malicious in her teasing. She respects Lawrence and does not wish to harm him with her words. If she does cross the line, she is quick to realize her mistake and apologize. It can be argued that Shinoa respects Yuu but never having brought up a sensitive subject to Yuu in the first place, but the audience is left to wonder whether that is by chance or by respect.

These 3 factors create two very different relationships. Between Holo and Lawrence, it is a wise woman and an intelligence but less experienced man who enjoy each others' company and appreciate each other. It is a pleasure to watch for anyone who enjoys intelligent and pleasant banter. Between Shinoa and Yuu, it is a gadfly annoying an obviously anti-social boy. It appeals to some sense of sadism, but it can quite easily provoke dislike. Certainly disliking Shinoa implies nothing about hating female leads with their own personality.

On an unrelated note, it's hard for me to write Shinoa. I keep having to stop myself from writing Shanoa--a vampire hunter I'm much more familiar with.

mayukachan said:

This. I have no issues with her right now.

Oxalias said:
I like her because she seems to be her own person. Her every move isn't MC based. Like most normal human being, are pretty individualistic, well Western culture mostly.

Ironhorse-Yakuza said:
Fucking hate her. She's just annoying. Her character's taste in humor is awful as well, just being a snarky ass.

2/10 hope she gets killed off

MC is pretty shit himself. Cookie cutter character.

TragicRomance said:
Don't even get me started on, "female protagonists are bound to receive hate." If the heroine is kind and sweet, "wth she is useless and boring."

TragicRomance said:
The story has just begun, and there's a lot of room for development. Don't even get me started on, "female protagonists are bound to receive hate." If the heroine is kind and sweet, "wth she is useless and boring." She is a little bossy and tsuntsun, "I will hate her unless she turns dere (in which case, she is automatically the best girl)" Make her playful, and sarcastic "she is bossy and conceited." Make her perverted and naughty, "she's a slut."

There are male charas out there who are basically the gender-swapped ver. of the mentioned female charas, and the reaction is like, "the main guy is so cool. A badass." I admit male characters get hate too, but not as much as female ones... Whatever.

TragicRomance said:
I admit male characters get hate too, but not as much as female ones... Whatever.

Objurgo said:


I whole-fully disagree.