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Apr 18, 2015 11:54 PM

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StevenHu said:
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I understand what you're saying, but don't you imagine it's slightly different in the case of his eye as his left eye's now orange color was not an original, established feature of his? Yet we're supposed to play along and assume the characters haven't recognized this new feature? I don't believe it's entirely fair to compare the altered eye color to the varying hair colors, names, and especially not the lightning eyes in the zone (which is symbolic, yes, but of the players' increased intensity in the matches; it is not an actual feature of theirs.)

Going out on a limb here, but as much as I want to deny it, someone's eye colour can change naturally.

Wikipedia said:
Changes (lightening or darkening) of eye colors during puberty, early childhood, pregnancy, and sometimes after serious trauma (like heterochromia) do represent cause for plausible argument to state that some eyes can or do change, based on chemical reactions and hormonal changes within the body.


Here is a picture of what heterochromia looks like. See anything familiar? :|




I wish I am making this up, but the excess or lack of melanin can apparently cause this.


Does it make any mention of eye color change being completely sudden like Akashi's?
Apr 19, 2015 12:10 AM

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ibearclaw said:
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I understand what you're saying, but don't you imagine it's slightly different in the case of his eye as his left eye's now orange color was not an original, established feature of his? Yet we're supposed to play along and assume the characters haven't recognized this new feature? I don't believe it's entirely fair to compare the altered eye color to the varying hair colors, names, and especially not the lightning eyes in the zone (which is symbolic, yes, but of the players' increased intensity in the matches; it is not an actual feature of theirs.)
Not really, you're just looking too far into it. Would it make you feel better if I said the characters can't see it? That it is exactly the same as the lightning eyes, in that it's just showing which Akashi is being displayed. Because while his pattern of speech is a bit more "noble" (I don't know what to call it) his VA does a great job of keeping the tone the same.


How about this to put its silliness in to perspective: A person is, naturally, feeling happy. All of a sudden, and mind you there is emphasis to be placed on "all of a sudden", the person becomes depressed and thus his hair turns dark blue, or black, or whatever color you'd like to associate with depression. Not implying orange has anything to do with being Akashi's new eye color (for his left eye), but surely that's ridiculous? As Steven said, eye color can change, but so can hair color. No, it is not exactly the same as the lightning eyes. The lightning eyes are more so an "effect" that demonstrate the characters' level of play during the matches. Akashi's eye is an actual physical feature of his, as mentioned.
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I'm aware that Kagami is required to exist; I understand that there has to be a light in contrast to Kuroko's shadow. The problem, as I stated, is that Kagami lacks depth as a character. Considering the amount of screen time Kagami receives and how vital he is to the team (being Kuroko's light and the team's ace), he should have more depth as a character than a simple ball hog who eventually learns to work with his team. He strikes me as very uninspired, so much to the point that, like I claimed, he rather seems like a plot device; surely SOMEONE has to be Kuroko's light, and thus his relevance doesn't go much further. He needed to be expanded upon, is what I'm asserting. For a character so big, he is rather small.
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The following analysis of Kagami is going to be disjointed, since I have no desire to waste time on properly organizing my thoughts, so I'll just say whatever comes to mind to bring across my points.

Kagami is supposed to be boring, but he has enough depth for a character in a sports anime. It's not like Rukawa or Ippo or Echizen have a lot of depth to them other than coolness, passion, cockiness, indomitable spirit, etc.

Kagami cares only about basketball and nothing else. He barely has any furniture in his house apart from the essentials, not even a TV. He practically eats and lives basketball. He obsesses about getting stronger and meeting strong opponents excites him. He even said in season 1, "it's better if I don't win", because apparently life needs to be full of challenges and there is no point if there is no one who can beat him. He started as an impatient ball-hog who loses his temper if he doesn't touch the ball enough for his liking, but eventually he progressed (thanks to Kuroko constantly lecturing him) to someone who's cool-headed, such that even Wakamatsu and Aomine noticed the change in him.

There's this whole rivalry and brotherhood thing with Himuro in case you forgot. For all that tough exterior, we find out that he really is a softie after all. Even Hyuga commented that he is too kind to play seriously against someone he feels a sense of kinship with. But eventually, for the sake of winning, he decided to close off his feelings for Himuro by asking Kuroko to discard his friendship ring because right then, winning for the sake of his team is more important than Himuro.

We find that he really cares about his teammates. The way he consoled Kuroko when he was crushed by Aomine was amazingly cool. "I'll teach him (Aomine), that there is no such thing as a useless effort." I think he even inspired Kuroko to do the same for Kiyoshi later against Yosen after he was taken off. "I'll beat you (Murasakibara) on his (Kiyoshi) behalf." Kagami has an undeniable effect on his team off-the-court as well.

When we were first introduced to Kagami, he was cocky as hell. "I'll beat the generation of miracles and become the best player in Japan." However, he soon was shown how naive he was. After facing Aomine, it seemed apparent to me that he lost quite a bit of his confidence as a player. Yes, part of that can be attributed to him being more cool-headed, but he just didn't exude that same aura of overwhelming strength as he did when he first joined Seirin. It almost seemed that the Aomine had beaten his confidence down. However, the real Kagami was unleashed against Aomine when he no longer felt he had to depend on Kuroko anymore.

Against Yosen, despite being a extraordinarily competitive player, he decided to limit his area of play from the entire 2 point area to just the paint area, showing the kind of humility and self-awareness that even surprised Hyuga. In the same match, he came to the realisation that he shouldn't lament about his lack of ability to get into the zone and just focus on playing to the best of his current abilities. Yet another leap forward in maturity as a player.

It was great to see the subtle changes in Kagami as the story progresses. So much for a character with 'no depth'.

He's symbolic of how, with the right guidance, a talent can blossom. He falls somewhat between Himuro and the other miracles. He already has the potential to be on par with the miracles, but he couldn't reach that on his own. However, with Kuroko, Alex, Midorima, Kise and Aomine all giving him support, training, advice and the right nudge along the way, and the miracles providing the seemingly insurmountable obstacle he needed to push himself further, he eventually attained their level of godly basketball. He just took a different path.

Narrative wise, he does seem like a tool for Kuroko to use against the generation of miracles, to prove that their basketball is wrong, but they do have a real sense of camaraderie and he does have his goal (to become the best player in Japan) and own will to succeed, so it's more like they are mutually helping each other to attain their own individual as well as common goals.


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Hahahaha.


His one-trick was devastating enough though. Not once did a Seirin player stop his dribbles. Once he worked in tandem with Murasakibara, Yosen's offense was (nearly) unstoppable.

The generation of miracles being such monstrous talents such that a normal person could never hope to reach them no matter how hard they train is an important theme in the series. In real life, the ideal of innate talent is a myth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=en-GB&v=mF0v-C_A45E

In fact, elite players train harder than non-elite players. Sure there are some prerequisites to being talented, such as intelligence, ability to reflect on one's mistakes and internally correct them, visual and spatial processing speed, etc, but no one who is elite, be it Lebron, Curry or Anthony Davis, becomes it without working hard. Every real life elite player is a source of motivation if you are looking for it. The idea of born-geniuses, of people born with tennis, basketball or shinobi DNA in anime is inherently flawed, albeit it makes for compelling storytelling. So is the idea that you can get an instant power-up by screaming "I can't lose here!" :) If you want to develop your game irl, anime is not the best place to look for insights or motivation.


- "Kagami is supposed to be boring, but he has enough depth for a character in a sports anime. It's not like Rukawa or Ippo or Echizen have a lot of depth to them other than coolness, passion, cockiness, indomitable spirit, etc."

That is a poor excuse for a lackluster character. Kagami, being a main character and receiving essentially just as much screen time as Kuroko, is extremely empty in comparison to his shadow (the irony) and even the GoM. I wouldn't have a problem with Kagami being as bland as he is if he were just a mere side character, but the fact is he's not. He has a bigger role to play, yet he only has the quality of one with a smaller role; this simply does not suffice. Other characters from other anime/manga are irrelevant, and they do not excuse lack of character development, nor does the genre. If Kuroko can receive proper character development, why can't Kagami?

As for the rest of your post, you basically failed to mention anything I didn't state briefly.

- "Kagami cares only about basketball and nothing else. He barely has any furniture in his house apart from the essentials, not even a TV. He practically eats and lives basketball. He obsesses about getting stronger and meeting strong opponents excites him. He even said in season 1, "it's better if I don't win", because apparently life needs to be full of challenges and there is no point if there is no one who can beat him. He started as an impatient ball-hog who loses his temper if he doesn't touch the ball enough for his liking, but eventually he progressed (thanks to Kuroko constantly lecturing him) to someone who's cool-headed, such that even Wakamatsu and Aomine noticed the change in him."

I clearly stated in my post how Kagami was a hothead + ball hog who eventually learned to cooperate with his team, and that he is determined to win with them as their ace.

- "There's this whole rivalry and brotherhood thing with Himuro in case you forgot. For all that tough exterior, we find out that he really is a softie after all. Even Hyuga commented that he is too kind to play seriously against someone he feels a sense of kinship with. But eventually, for the sake of winning, he decided to close off his feelings for Himuro by asking Kuroko to discard his friendship ring because right then, winning for the sake of his team is more important than Himuro."

True, I never mentioned his relationship with Himuro, but particularly because it wasn't relevant to my point. It ultimately leads in to his whole determination/desire to win for his teammates as their ace thing, which I had mentioned.

- "We find that he really cares about his teammates. The way he consoled Kuroko when he was crushed by Aomine was amazingly cool. "I'll teach him (Aomine), that there is no such thing as a useless effort." I think he even inspired Kuroko to do the same for Kiyoshi later against Yosen after he was taken off. "I'll beat you (Murasakibara) on his (Kiyoshi) behalf." Kagami has an undeniable effect on his team off-the-court as well."

Yes, he cares about his teammates, wants to do his best and win for them, blah blah blah. Same old, same old.

- "When we were first introduced to Kagami, he was cocky as hell. "I'll beat the generation of miracles and become the best player in Japan." However, he soon was shown how naive he was. After facing Aomine, it seemed apparent to me that he lost quite a bit of his confidence as a player. Yes, part of that can be attributed to him being more cool-headed, but he just didn't exude that same aura of overwhelming strength as he did when he first joined Seirin. It almost seemed that the Aomine had beaten his confidence down. However, the real Kagami was unleashed against Aomine when he no longer felt he had to depend on Kuroko anymore. "

Yes, he was beaten, and it helped to shape him as the team's ace, fuel his desire to win, etc. Once again, same stuff.

- "Against Yosen, despite being a extraordinarily competitive player, he decided to limit his area of play from the entire 2 point area to just the paint area, showing the kind of humility and self-awareness that even surprised Hyuga. In the same match, he came to the realisation that he shouldn't lament about his lack of ability to get into the zone and just focus on playing to the best of his current abilities. Yet another leap forward in maturity as a player."

His role as ace being developed, yet again. Same stuff.

- "It was great to see the subtle changes in Kagami as the story progresses. So much for a character with 'no depth'."

Subtle changes which all ultimately served the same purpose: To establish his role as the ace. Speaking of that, I think you are associating character development in Kagami too much with his role as the team's ace. Think outside the box more; I never stated his depth had to come solely from being the team's ace. Surely the author could have given him some sort of other personal situation to expand on him more, for instance?

- "He's symbolic of how, with the right guidance, a talent can blossom. He falls somewhat between Himuro and the other miracles. He already has the potential to be on par with the miracles, but he couldn't reach that on his own. However, with Kuroko, Alex, Midorima, Kise and Aomine all giving him support, training, advice and the right nudge along the way, and the miracles providing the seemingly insurmountable obstacle he needed to push himself further, he eventually attained their level of godly basketball. He just took a different path."

Is this supposed to be special? This isn't original.

- "Narrative wise, he does seem like a tool for Kuroko to use against the generation of miracles, to prove that their basketball is wrong, but they do have a real sense of camaraderie and he does have his goal (to become the best player in Japan) and own will to succeed, so it's more like they are mutually helping each other to attain their own individual as well as common goals. "

Yes, he wants to be the best. But doesn't everyone? This isn't important.

So, ultimately, what can we determine about Kagami as a character? He is a cocky hothead who loves basketball, is a ball hog, learns to work with his team after accepting them + facing defeat, accepts his role as their ace and wants to win with them, cares for them, shows his soft side in regards to his "brother" yet puts that aside for victory with his teammates (loops back to his whole role as ace thing), and what have you. Yeah...basically everything I mentioned in my original post. As aforementioned, subtle changes that serve the same purpose.

Kagami is indeed bland.
Apr 19, 2015 2:46 AM

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TheEnigmaticRR said:
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I feel kinda drowsy so this response isn't going to be terribly coherent, but I going to give it my best shot.

Dude, just because you can distill down a character to a few archetypal traits doesn’t make that person bland. You have also conflated a lack of depth (or complexity) with a lack of originality. How many anime characters, let alone sports anime characters are truly original. Most are just amalgamations of other archetypal traits.

He is a cocky hothead who loves basketball, is a ball hog, learns to work with his team after accepting them + facing defeat, accepts his role as their ace and wants to win with them, cares for them, shows his soft side in regards to his "brother" yet puts that aside for victory with his teammates (loops back to his whole role as ace thing), and what have you.


I can distill down any character in any anime to a single sentence too. So what?

Kagami has layers to him not just because of his peculiarities that set him apart from the typical hothead shounen MC that he initially seemed to be, but also because he undergoes important growth as a person and as a player over the series (which to me is more important than superficial quirks and habits).

You seem to dismiss my points just because they can be simplified to “he cares for his team” and “he wants to be the best”. But I’ve already demonstrated that there are deeper layers to him than that. And there’s more:

He’s a hothead but he is actually a very good cook. He was born and raised in America, so his lack of understanding of Japanese customs (failure to observe proper etiquette in the hot spring and genuine shock at the bustling lunch time rush) adds to the humorous aspects of his character. No, you can’t dismiss it as just humor. Every quirk, every reaction a character has to an event adds to the depth of his personality. The more he reacts, the more layers he reveals underneath. A typical shounen hothead is usually brash and perverted but Kagami is unusually bashful when it comes to the opposite sex, such that even Kuroko is better with girls than him. We also saw the corny side of him as he made the rather bad metaphor about writing his own script. His teammates laughed at him but that corniness was exactly what the team needed at that point. He also eats a lot, a superficial trait, but adds nuance anyway.

You can’t dismiss his continuing maturation as a player just because it all boils down to caring for his team and wanting to win. That’s as silly as stating basketball anime is boring because it’s either one team scoring or the other team scoring. That’s obviously a ridiculously simplistic way of looking at Knb, so why did you do it for Kagami? In a sports anime, going from hero balling to learning to adjust your playing style to suit the team is extremely important character development. That’s because KnB is primarily about basketball and less about off-court drama.

We do not become a different person when we change. What makes us 'us' isn’t just the current us, but the amalgamation of all versions of us throughout our life. All our past mistakes, our previous identities, our past ideologies that we no longer hold aren't just discarded as we mature. They are part of how we become the way we are. They are integrated in us, their effects are retained in us. Our past mistakes inform our future choices.

That’s why character development is itself lending depth to a character.

And maturation as a basketball player is absolutely pertinent in a basketball anime. Kagami is not going to have character arcs that lead him to insights such as: the world is cruel, the shinobi world is a never ending cycle of hate, humans are the actual parasites, etc. You can’t dismiss his maturation just because his desire to win for the team is unchanging. Even something as simple as learning to use his left hand in the air adds depth to Kagami’s role as an ace. Learning different strategies, knowing more of his weaknesses, adopting a different mindset, understanding when to go all out and when to hold back = more complexity than a single-minded ace who wants to win for his team. He’s still an ace yes, but he’s learning to play the role of the ace differently as the series progresses. Kagami is meant to be a player who is completely obsessed with basketball, so it's not a surprise that the author made his character development mostly basketball related.

Kagami is a complex in a way that is relevant to a sports anime. He isn’t exactly bland as you think he is. None of his traits are completely original because completely original traits do not exist. You may find him unlikable and boring because none of his traits or quirks interest you. That's your opinion. But saying he has no depth is as off the mark as saying his character development doesn't matter.
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TheEnigmaticRR said:
ibearclaw said:
Not really, you're just looking too far into it. Would it make you feel better if I said the characters can't see it? That it is exactly the same as the lightning eyes, in that it's just showing which Akashi is being displayed. Because while his pattern of speech is a bit more "noble" (I don't know what to call it) his VA does a great job of keeping the tone the same.


How about this to put its silliness in to perspective: A person is, naturally, feeling happy. All of a sudden, and mind you there is emphasis to be placed on "all of a sudden", the person becomes depressed and thus his hair turns dark blue, or black, or whatever color you'd like to associate with depression. Not implying orange has anything to do with being Akashi's new eye color (for his left eye), but surely that's ridiculous? As Steven said, eye color can change, but so can hair color. No, it is not exactly the same as the lightning eyes. The lightning eyes are more so an "effect" that demonstrate the characters' level of play during the matches. Akashi's eye is an actual physical feature of his, as mentioned.


Red /yellow/purple eyes as well as blue/purple/green hair aren't natural in humans anyway, if you want to be pedantic.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304788404579520172296723850

Heterochromia, a condition in which a person's eyes are two different colors, can be an inherited condition or caused by trauma, which could shake loose some of the melanocytes, making the eye appear lighter or darker.


Yes, trauma can cause eye color changes. As for the speed, well, immediate color changes are known to happen in the animal kingdom anyway.

http://mentalfloss.com/article/51225/7-animals-are-better-color-changers-chameleons

In both humans and non-human animals, color changes boil down to a matter of changes in gene expression leading to chemicals released to provoke pigment changes in skin/eye color. In reaction to an external stimuli (physical trauma, fight or flight instinct), a gene that is normally suppressed may now expressed or the other way around, leading to different chemicals (than normal) being released.
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Me day after watching this episode.


...mentally preparing for the next one
Apr 19, 2015 5:06 AM

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Dai-chan...I didn't want to see him like that again. T_T
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Another poor episode by I.G., I have been waiting for Murasakibara vs Akashi since the flashback started, and it didn't meet my expectation. Oh well.

My favorite part of the episode,
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This episode was a liitle depressing especially when the ED song started to play. I really feel bad for Kuroko.
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TheEnigmaticRR said:
ibearclaw said:
Not really, you're just looking too far into it. Would it make you feel better if I said the characters can't see it? That it is exactly the same as the lightning eyes, in that it's just showing which Akashi is being displayed. Because while his pattern of speech is a bit more "noble" (I don't know what to call it) his VA does a great job of keeping the tone the same.


How about this to put its silliness in to perspective: A person is, naturally, feeling happy. All of a sudden, and mind you there is emphasis to be placed on "all of a sudden", the person becomes depressed and thus his hair turns dark blue, or black, or whatever color you'd like to associate with depression. Not implying orange has anything to do with being Akashi's new eye color (for his left eye), but surely that's ridiculous? As Steven said, eye color can change, but so can hair color. No, it is not exactly the same as the lightning eyes. The lightning eyes are more so an "effect" that demonstrate the characters' level of play during the matches. Akashi's eye is an actual physical feature of his, as mentioned.


Ending spoiler
Lightning bolts are coming out of their eyes, you can't say that isn't happening, we see it and then it goes away. Right now the Emperor is in control, so that's why we see the orange eye, in the event something causes the original Akashi to reemerge it'd go back. Either way you are looking too far into it. Out of every complaint I've read about this show and there have been a lot of them, and many stupid and some valid, this is by far the most ridiculous.
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should let the generation of miracles people play against each other. That would be worth while practice.


If only the coach wasn't stupid...
Apr 19, 2015 7:09 AM

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Really liked this episode. Hell, been enjoying this past arc a lot as well. Heh, so I guess Murasakibara had a hand in changing Akashi's personality then.
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Damn, I misread what Akashi's dad said and chuckled a little.

What he said: "Keep doing both how you have been."
What I initially thought he said: "You both keep doing how you have been."

I thought "both" was referring to the 2 Akashis.

I love the Death Note-ish faces in this episode.





Also, Akashi's quote about how the "victor is acknowledged and the loser disavowed" reminded me of both Shishio Makoto's oft-repeated mantra "the strong survive and the weak die” and Winston Churchill's "history is written by the victors" famous quote.

A bit of a spoiler since it is from the next episode, but it's something we all know anyway. It encapsulates so succinctly what kind of a team the GoMs are.



Someone had to do it.



I suppose I'm really bored.

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I'm looking forward to the OST release.
Apr 19, 2015 12:29 PM

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damn what an episode the GoM are just falling apart and that ost is amazing
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Pretty good episode but I'm hoping we get more of an explanation on Akashi's other personality and how it came to be.
Apr 19, 2015 2:25 PM

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This is what I'm talking about. Good shit right here.
5/5
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Kuroko crying </3

Everything changing


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had fun watching it , but feels so short like always
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The rainbow effect is strong this episode.

Poor Aomine...

Lol of-course Akashi activates his OP powers, he couldn't take the loss after-all.
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Pretty good episode but I'm hoping we get more of an explanation on Akashi's other personality and how it came to be.

Read the manga.
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Good episode but I hope that we will continue soon with the main story :)
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I'm looking forward to the OST release.


yeah:) me to!^^

I really like the Teiko arc. Finally getting to know how they developed into beasts...

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Although the first half of the episode was a little slow, the end game with Akashi vs Murasakibara sure made up for it! I think they did a pretty good job of animating Akashi's two personalities. The way he spoke really gave me chills~! Nice! :D
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now that the feel is really came
somehow, I just love the end card rather than the episode.
thought Akashi's VA really did a great job, I mean, as expected of Kamiya-san :D

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Akashi's VA really did a great job, I mean, as expected of Kamiya-san :D
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this episode fucked me up so bad....................................
and there's more to come??? OH GOD
Apr 21, 2015 3:39 AM

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Mmkay one more episode in this arc. I hope it'll be satisfying.

Kuroko no Basuke is starting to get boring tbh
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Kind of a slow episode this week, I hope the next one which is my favourite part in this arc will have an awesome adaption and they won't rush it too much. Akashi's transformation was the best part of this episode.
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Akashi's existence is the biggest mistake in sports series history
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Klad said:
Akashi's existence is the biggest mistake in sports series history
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Torrible said:



I'm done.

Btw I'll not join the heterocromia discussion, I'll just say that I dislike Akashi's orange/yellow eye, his red eyes are much more intense. As I dislike his new haircut, that poor cool hair, gone ;;
Ruka desu.
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Klad said:
Akashi's existence is the biggest mistake in sports series history

agreed with this as well the above comment
he really did look more intimidating before.
Apr 22, 2015 2:13 AM

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Klad said:
Akashi's existence is the biggest mistake in sports series history

agreed with this as well the above comment
he really did look more intimidating before.
Apr 22, 2015 3:26 AM

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God Akashi :D
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Klad said:
Akashi's existence is the biggest mistake in sports series history


I agree that Akashi's existence is similar to Aizen in Bleach or Madara in Naruto. The writer portrays his character a bit too much.

But, that's what I love about him... :D
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kazetora said:
Klad said:
Akashi's existence is the biggest mistake in sports series history

I agree that Akashi's existence is similar to Aizen in Bleach or Madara in Naruto. The writer portrays his character a bit too much.

By that, do you mean the writer made the character too powerful?

Akashi is not very well characterized story-wise when it comes down to it.
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StevenHu said:
kazetora said:

I agree that Akashi's existence is similar to Aizen in Bleach or Madara in Naruto. The writer portrays his character a bit too much.

By that, do you mean the writer made the character too powerful?


In my point of view, he is. There are some points where the way his character told a bit too exaggerated. Character that I mean here is not the depth of his personality, of course. But more to his existence as the hailed final boss.

And due to that reason too, I think your opinion below can be true. Because they focused too much on describing how menacing Akashi is, some other aspect can be felt as unbalanced.

StevenHu said:
Akashi is not very well characterized story-wise when it comes down to it.


Frankly, I don't how to put my sentences correctly, but I'm sure you're getting the point.

Though, despite all of that, I still enjoy his character and love it to some extents.
Apr 23, 2015 10:25 PM

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man this whole arc feels rushed. while the aomine scene was done well, all the other characters' tranformation felt weak since we didn't spent much time with them to grow any sort of attachment.
all other archers pale in comparison.
Apr 24, 2015 3:13 PM

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Akashi gives "Ball is Life" a whole new scary meaning.
Apr 28, 2015 12:56 PM

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DAMNNN AKASHIIIIIIIII *_*
Apr 30, 2015 7:21 AM

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The other Akashi has heterochromia and is a bit colder person. Cool ^.-
May 5, 2015 4:09 PM

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Oh nooo I'm gonna miss the happy Teiko, especially Aomine. T-T

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OH-MY-GOD xDDDDDDDDDDDD
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Loved that music when Akashi awaken his eye powers(sharingan activated). Is like some super op villain makes an entrance or God descents.

Anyway it seems his whole personality problem is a result of his strict environment. His life has too much pressure and that made him snap.

Klad said:
Akashi's existence is the biggest mistake in sports series history


He creates the most fun though really. Maybe if the show was some serious shit it would be unforgivable but in a pretty boy super power basketball show like this he is just so much entertainment being all godly and shit.
May 24, 2015 8:04 AM

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Akashi flipped.. he just looks like a psychopath now. XD
Awww.. so sad Kuroko don't cry.
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Without the coach, the Generation of Miracles has evolved to what they are today.
"I've... already forgotten even how to receive your passes." No, Aomine. (T_T)

Damn, Murasakibara unlocked Akashi's Emperor Eye.
No more team play? Poor Kuroko.
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Another nice episode. I find it a bit annoying how repetitive this arc is. I mean, we kinda already knew almost everything that's happening here.... Interesting to watch the new content though, and the evolution of the Generation was really interesting as well *.*
Looking forward to the ending of Teiko arc and to how Ogiwara gives up on basketball because of Kuroko.
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Akashi needs to be marched to the nearest hospital for intense psychiatric treatment.
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so this is how the Teiko team fell.. tsk tsk.. it truly is tragic.
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that bastard chairman of teiko did everything he push the new coach(the coach is a good guy) ..and then the coach started treating everyone special which started a chain of falling out,,,, oh god poor kuroko the pain he went through all by himself and i really feel for him so much :3

i hate the stupid chairman of taiko school :3
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