L-Ryoshi said: Firstly, Michael throughout the entire show has presented the human race as nothing but a part of nature. You can see in all the conversations that he has with Maria during the course of the show that he views humans doing what they do to be just another part of natures design. Not once has he shown anything like respect or appreciation for humans. To him, we're pretty much just there, to be ignored and to let roam however we please. Why else would the heavens choose to ignore the pleas of the humans regarding war and pillaging, and allow them to follow the flawed teachings of their representative church at the time? It's because they don't care for what the humans do, so long as they don't do what Maria did and upset the balance of Nature, so to speak.
How does humans to be part of nature imply that angels view themselves as higher? Michael said that humans are part of nature, that's it. He never stated that nature is below angels in any way. Not to mention that they probably consider themselves part of the nature as well, just quite different part of it, since they live in a different world than humans.
Him showing no appreciacion itself is not an argument, tho, as he didn't ever show anything that would contradict that he has any respect of them. From the looks of things, it was more like Michael just doesn't bother thinking if humans are worth respect or not, because that's not his role in all of this.
Why they let the humans do as they please and ignore the pleas? Because that's what Father told them to do, according to this show. I'd like to remind you that the whole Church of Heavens in this show is about following Father's orders and that's it. This has nothing to do with their opinion about humans, the Father's orders are absolute.
L-Ryoshi said: Secondly, I highly doubt Michael really cared much about the "quality" of the humans when he was asking around about their feelings for Maria. If said "quality" were so important in deciding who to interview, I'm pretty sure a t least half of the negative comments stated against her in that sequence wouldn't have even been brought up, considering who was making those comments (Galfa, the Comte, those mercenaries, etc.).
If you don't let all the witnessess speak, that would be a parody of a judgment, not the real one. You obviously won't value all witnessess words on equal footing, because no sane judge would do that, but you still hear all of them out.
L-Ryoshi said: Also, who's got the right to say that the damning testimony from Gilbert, a devout Christian who is purely immersed in his beliefs, would be less worthy than that from Martha, and old friend of Marias (and thus obviously biased towards her). That Michael put so much weight on the testament of an equally ancient being, before passing an overall judgement, just goes to show how little those comments from the humans meant in regards to the grand jury decision.
Gilbert, being immersed in his belief that witches are evil by default makes him just as biased as Martha would be, if not more.
Not really. Cernunnos wasn't the only one that made Michael reach that decision. Michael was clearly affected by Martha's words, he even used the same words as Martha while giving a verdict. And I think this answers the question why Martha's view was more important than Gilbert's. All Gilbert said was pretty much "Maria is an evil witch, please kill her!", while Martha's answer was actually profound and quite informative as, among all the humans Michael asked, she spent the most time with Maria.
L-Ryoshi said: It's obvious that the virgin part was skipped because by the end of Ann's life (and probably near the end of Josephs as well, considering timeline), Maria was no longer a virgin (nor a witch). I don't understand the point of your question.
If she was no longer a witch, then why did narrator state that she was? From what you say, the virgint part was skipped because narrator was talking about Maria after she lost her virginity. Yet the narrator still says she was a witch. Why wasn't the witch part skipped if Maria lost her powers? |