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Feb 6, 2015 5:23 PM

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NO. NO. NO GOD DAMMIT THAT WAS NOT OK.
Don't forget.
Always, somewhere,
someone is fighting for you.
As long as you remember her,
you are not alone.
Feb 6, 2015 5:31 PM

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WTF LARA IS DEAD?!?! FUCK U ENDING THANKS FOR TROLLING US!
Feb 6, 2015 5:42 PM
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Well, that was confusing. So were the images in the ending a fake-out then? Are they going to pull a resurrection on us?

Because based on what I can recall from the live action series, there's never been a case of that happening where it wasn't either a horror or something else going horribly wrong.

I figured the family was going to die, but that Lara at least would live and be that answer to "Who is it you must protect?".

Seems a waste to kill her off actually.
Feb 6, 2015 6:09 PM
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I feel bad for Lara and her family.

Lara is dead! That was so sad!
Feb 6, 2015 6:15 PM

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This anime is so cliche, it's so good again.
Glad I stick to this. Really "Underdog" / underrated series!

For the second time ever I don't mind them pulling some Resurrection or Deus Ex Machina on us, since Clannad.
Feb 6, 2015 6:18 PM

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Theres no WAY shes dead for good. shes in like HALF the ED screens. I have a feeling hes going to be able to save her.
Either that, or those ED screens were just there to throw us off.
Oh man...that was just too fucking sad. THEY EVEN KILLED THE DOG. YOU NEVER KILL THE GOD DAMNED DOG.
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Feb 6, 2015 6:21 PM
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Rebelhero said:
Theres no WAY shes dead for good. shes in like HALF the ED screens. I have a feeling hes going to be able to save her.
Either that, or those ED screens were just there to throw us off.
Oh man...that was just too fucking sad. THEY EVEN KILLED THE DOG. YOU NEVER KILL THE GOD DAMNED DOG.


I could have dealt with it if they'd just shown it dead, but they had to show it whimpering and trying to respond to him. Why?
Feb 6, 2015 6:24 PM

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Aww really wish the didn't kill Lara off and her family too.
Leon is going to take up the sword again next episode.
Feb 6, 2015 6:32 PM

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB*
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Feb 6, 2015 6:37 PM

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Too bad Herman killed the Horror doctor last episode.............
Feb 6, 2015 6:41 PM

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I knew this was coming yet still wasn't prepared :(
Feb 6, 2015 7:12 PM

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I refuse to believe that Lara was included in season 2 poster only as a tragic reason to keep Leon fighting.
She has to be alive. DAMN IT I CAN'T ACCEPT HER DEATH. T T
Feb 6, 2015 7:18 PM

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If only Garo has consistently good episode just like this one. This anime show is probably one of the most inconsistent anime I have ever watched in term of quality. Please let the rest of this season be good. Anyway, I do not think Lara is dead. Maybe she is just unconscious because of her injury?
I like anime.
Feb 6, 2015 7:25 PM

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Argh! What a cruel and tragic episode. Even the dog...
Did they really have to go back for the damn rice?!

Based on last week's preview, I had a feeling something was up, but the ED picture of Lara and Leon made me think otherwise. At least, I wanted to think otherwise...

Kind of pisses me off, honestly, because I thought the whole point was that Leon finally found someone to protect. She'd be his motivation from now on, and she'd help him get out of his funk. But now that she's dead, he may just go on another revenge trip. I just wanted her to live damn it! ;_;
Feb 6, 2015 8:39 PM
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Rebelhero said:
Theres no WAY shes dead for good. shes in like HALF the ED screens. I have a feeling hes going to be able to save her.
Either that, or those ED screens were just there to throw us off.
Oh man...that was just too fucking sad. THEY EVEN KILLED THE DOG. YOU NEVER KILL THE GOD DAMNED DOG.

The poor dog's death made the whole situation ten times more devastating. And here I thought Lara would live because of the ending :<
Feb 6, 2015 8:50 PM

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Now more than ever can i say this....this show is a classic in the making,

It has been a long time since i have been this thrown off guard by an episode, every time i thought i knew where this series was going its completely destroyed my expectations in an instant and this episode was one of the hardest emotional kicks ive seen in a long long LONG time. I'm just speechless at this episode.

Also even though i threw this idea around around episode 12 in the discussions where is aid the show would either go leon as a horror as its route or leon redeeming himself, but i started to doubt the leon becoming a horror theory after recent episodes and was adoring his redemption development.....but now it looks like i was a little too right originally and we got a tragic version of both, he seemed like he really was becoming a horror near the end before lara called out to him.
JizzyHitlerFeb 6, 2015 9:01 PM

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Feb 6, 2015 9:16 PM

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damn, so much for Leon getting peace.

I think he's gonna end up a roaming knight, you know kenshin style.
to to try and repay for all the lives he took during his rampage, and also in memory of Laura.
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Feb 6, 2015 10:48 PM
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Why Lara... seriously I could have cared less if only it wasn't her. She made leon change so much to only put him in another melancholy. The episode was good over all, didn't cry, but was enough to give me the feels.
Feb 6, 2015 11:31 PM
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Wowow. What an episode.
A touching reunion with Alfonso and Leon.
Lara was such a dear, it's so sad that she had to die. <3
But hopefully this will get Leon back on his feet as a makai knight.
I'm really loving his character development. I mean he was so cool before,
yet now he is even better. The animation is improving as well.
Such a great series so far, can't wait for the next episode!
Feb 6, 2015 11:33 PM
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I know the seeds mean everything to you, but why did you have to run back jii-san??? T_T And of course this all had to happen in the same episode where Leon talks to Alfonso and has finally found something he wants to protect. Just too tragic. But we all knew Leon had to go back, and this had to happen as his trigger. Still, this episode hurt.
Feb 6, 2015 11:54 PM
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Wow, Leon sure does never get a break. I knew it was coming, but Lara and her family being killed really made me sad. I don't think I've been this sad over a death since Clannad.
Feb 7, 2015 12:21 AM

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Gotta say, I did not see that coming. Kudos to the writer/writers, quite a pair of balls.

That said, the torment Leon is being put through is inhuman. How long till he goes super angry and starts blowing shit up?
Feb 7, 2015 2:31 AM
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No, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
Feb 7, 2015 4:39 AM

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That grandpa is sure a stupid one. Caring most for his seeds than his family. And i thought that he was wise enough.
Fuck this, LARA died because of him ! AND THE DOG TOO ! (What ? He would have died anyway because of his injuries ? THAT'S NOT TRUE !)

I also cried for you Leon.
RIP LARA.
Feb 7, 2015 5:01 AM

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Ohh cmon... no, just no. Why...
If this is the downfall of Léon then I support him to become the villain, even if he is defeated at the end, don't care.
Feb 7, 2015 5:21 AM

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it's too bad Lara---- well

i mean she could be the person Leon wants to protect, right?

dem feels-- orz
Feb 7, 2015 5:40 AM

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Leon x Emma confirmed =P
Feb 7, 2015 6:29 AM

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Silver4000 said:
Ohh cmon... no, just no. Why...
If this is the downfall of Léon then I support him to become the villain, even if he is defeated at the end, don't care.
yeah im not sure how i feel about his potential downfall as a villain, i think that poster and ED was complete misdirection cause while we see leon in that white suit he was protecting lara which is no longer possible. But god damn i so dont want to see him become a bad guy now after all this my heart cant fucking take it.

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Feb 7, 2015 6:46 AM

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Expecting for the writers to surprise me and the reason they kept Rara body's "intact" (unlike her family that there were only shadows left) would serve a good purpose other than making more dramatic and painful that scene.
Otherwise, I think Leon would make a nice antihero fighting everyone else.
Feb 7, 2015 7:07 AM
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Yeah, we can't be sure Lara's out of the game for sure. I'd say the light fadingfrom her eyes should be a good indicator of her death but this is anime and by anime rules resurrection isn't anything strange. Especially as it was mentioned with her body still intact.

But imo, the meaning of her not having disappeared like her family did may go both ways. Seeing as no body = no death is another frequent plot device, us (and Leon) getting to see her die before our eyes may be a sign her death is truly permanent.


We do know for certain Leon's going back to fighting and judging by the gleam in his eyes in the preview, he's going to give his best to get back to his old form and to become much stronger than he was before. ...which if Lara stays dead (or Idk, frozen or something - with chances to get resurrected?) I can't see ending well.

Anyway, Leon going the horror route would be interesting to see if well executed.
Feb 7, 2015 9:47 AM
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^You're in, what we call, denial phase. She's dead. No matter how much feels we give and watery eyes we get, the outcome wouldn't change nor there would be a twist. Why did she have to die T____T
Feb 7, 2015 9:52 AM

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If Mendoza can be alive, I don't see why Lara can't, but, we'll have to wait until the next episode to see if she's really dead or just passed out.
Also, the BGM during the Horror battle had a similar sound like the one from Evangelion.
Feb 7, 2015 10:02 AM

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Holy shit. I came to check the thread and over 80 comments? Good episode I guess..
Feb 7, 2015 10:34 AM
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DAMN WTF WHY DO PEOPLE NEVER LISTEN. The dog was sad enough already D: Why did they have to destroy the fucking happy end like that. I don't want to see Leon as knight again. He fucking sucked during the first half of the anime. This ending would have been so much better for him. But NO - they have to fucking kill it.

I mean I didn't expect Leon to stay there anyway but neither did I expect Lara and her family to die. That just sucks. Man now Leon becomes a knight again -.- And I even have to bear with it for another 7 episodes. Why couldn't they just continue with Alfonso...

Now they just need to kill Ximena and/or Leons father to annihilate any possibility of this anime having enjoyable final episodes (they were close to it anyway. I was surprised she survived the previous episode)

edit: On a sidenote where was Ema all this time? Her appearances were few already but she appeared even less than in the beginning and that's a shame.
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Feb 7, 2015 10:35 AM

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Wow, things got real, real fast! I was expecting some deaths and whatnot, but that ending was totally unexpected!! D:

Anyway, it was good to see some plot in this episode. Alfonso and Leon's reunion was really nicely done! Can't wait to see what happens from here on out, because it seems like both boys have really hit a brick wall!!
Feb 7, 2015 10:41 AM

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I really think Lara just fainted and didn't die.
- Her head didn't fall back when we sow them from the side and Leon wasn't holding her head up.
- Also in the "next episode" think when Leon carries her it's once again not show as her being completely limb.
- The final picture of the ending is Leon wearing his new outfit and protecting Lara...but if Laras death triggered his new gear and resolve then that picture doesn't make as much sense ( unless Lara becomes the Symbol of things to protect )
- Lara is on the poster for the 2nd season. :P

I mean I sow the family dieing a mile away. Leon is the MC and he needed incentive to not sit on his ass. But killing only the family and having Lara travel around with him would have made more then enough sense.
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Feb 7, 2015 11:56 AM

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I was expecting an episode with Leon, but I didn't ask for one where's in the end Lara dies.... :(
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Feb 7, 2015 12:48 PM

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Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!
The ending troll us. I was expecting the family to die but why did they kill Lara too?
Leon just got reason to life, something to protect but NOOOOOOOOOOOO they just had to screw up everything!
                                                     
Feb 7, 2015 12:53 PM

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Soul-Master said:
Gotta say, I did not see that coming. Kudos to the writer/writers, quite a pair of balls.

That said, the torment Leon is being put through is inhuman. How long till he goes super angry and starts blowing shit up?


^This.
Feb 7, 2015 1:39 PM

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FUCKING WHYYYY MAN

If this makes Leon a stronger knight than I might be okay with this by the end, but if he does truly fall...I'm with Jizzy, I don't think I can handle that.

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Leon x Emma confirmed =P
Was thinking the same thing.
Feb 7, 2015 2:13 PM

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I knew her family would die from the start but why did she had to die too :(
and what Leon is gonna do pickup the sword and go get some revenge ?
( shed some tears )
Feb 7, 2015 2:15 PM

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I knew her family would die from the start but why did she had to die too :(
and what Leon is gonna do pickup the sword and go get some revenge ?
( shed some tears )
Feb 7, 2015 2:22 PM

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Killing Lara made absolutely no sense.

Yeah I kinda agree with you. He already failed in the past because he was just looking for revenge and now that he had changed himself to protect Lara, she dies...So what now? Another revenge?
Feb 7, 2015 3:19 PM
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Tfw everyone forgotten about the poor dog.T_T
Feb 7, 2015 4:12 PM
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Revillo_Phoenix said:
I really think Lara just fainted and didn't die.
- The final picture of the ending is Leon wearing his new outfit and protecting Lara...but if Laras death triggered his new gear and resolve then that picture doesn't make as much sense ( unless Lara becomes the Symbol of things to protect )
- Lara is on the poster for the 2nd season. :P


If we're using ED/promo material as an argument then don't forget the OP, where you can see her silhouette... fading away.
Feb 7, 2015 5:05 PM

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Fisico said:
Revillo_Phoenix said:
I really think Lara just fainted and didn't die.
- The final picture of the ending is Leon wearing his new outfit and protecting Lara...but if Laras death triggered his new gear and resolve then that picture doesn't make as much sense ( unless Lara becomes the Symbol of things to protect )
- Lara is on the poster for the 2nd season. :P


If we're using ED/promo material as an argument then don't forget the OP, where you can see her silhouette... fading away.

Now that I re-watched the OP I think you are right.
Feb 7, 2015 6:57 PM

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Way to kill a potential love interest.
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Feb 7, 2015 7:19 PM

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mbdsquad said:
^You're in, what we call, denial phase. She's dead. No matter how much feels we give and watery eyes we get, the outcome wouldn't change nor there would be a twist. Why did she have to die T____T



^You're in, what we call, acceptance phase.



Really hope director pulls some uber badass resurrection spell.
Feb 7, 2015 7:28 PM

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ainky said:
Fisico said:


If we're using ED/promo material as an argument then don't forget the OP, where you can see her silhouette... fading away.

Now that I re-watched the OP I think you are right.

I guess I didn't notice that either before. But I think second season poster is the strongest indicator.
One more possible answer I can come up with is that she does die but the revive her some way. It might be a problematic way that makes more plot for the future or whatever. But I don't think that the "she is just dead and Leon is completely fine and mentally and emotionally stable now" would work at all and the "Revenge 2.0" would be kinda boring ( and his new withe gear and stuff wouldn't reflect that either ).
Let's just say I'm not yet convinced.
Feb 7, 2015 8:04 PM

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Wow lots of post again! (But I'm not happy with this)
Haters always gonna hate.
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