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| Hello again, and thanks for the reply. For the record, they weren't meant as jabs, I just didn't appreciate using my home country's own misfortunes (and countless other people's at that) as an example for some manga discussion myself, which I found offensive, even if surely unintentional. Anyway, let's forget about that, all good. I'll reply to your main question once you've edited the whole thing again. |
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| After seeing the conclusion i am afraid that what i said a few chapters ago seems to have proven prophetic. It really was just a time waste until Togashi could think how to proceed with everyone in his new arc and pump out a few chapters. Also it seems this is the last arc, it seems he just threw this fight there because he knew people expected it so he can check this off the list and proceed with all the other left plots during the arc. dark-chaos said: BigBoss said: But we don't really know that unless you know how to read korean. @DarkAngel035 I still dont' get his rationale I guess, to quote someone from reddit "This is getting pathetic. Chrollo never wanted to harm him, Hisoka was the one chasing him around. He wanted his fight, he got it, he fucking lost. And now what ? He wants to render Chrollo powerless to make sure he wins ? What a coward, mister "i like to fight strong people... except when they're actually strong because I suck". He's gonna slash the whole troupe, I hope Chrollo gets vengeance. Because Chrollo had no reason to fight Hisoka before, but now he sure as hell does" Hope this will all make more sense after the translation is out, this really seems like some weird fanfic still to me. as i said that how i see what happen by read Japanese spoiler it's can be wrong also if hisoke really back i think it's make more sense you can go and read that human body can still alive for hours after heart stop and there some people back to life after 2 hour this things happens even in real world so you can say hisoka fake his death and gain more power because he was about to death it's make sense and logically with hunter x hunter world and how nen works I think you will find that NO this shit does not work because even if you make your heart and organs start working again, you still won't be anything more than a vegetable since if your blood circulation stops for more than a few minutes and your brain doesn't receive oxygen threw blood for a few minutes then you end up with severe brain damage. So if someone revived after two hours and was actually able to speak etc then it was simple wrong diagnosis from those that assumed his/her heart stopped. I think Togashi needs to go read a few medical books. Also seriously his adding limps and patching wounds with his nen? That isn't very good way to solve things considering his nen isn't based on healing abilities. Such a thing only makes his wound non visible, not not existent. Is like fancy make-up. So how exactly does he go around with all those wounds and without getting patched up by the troupe girl like his fine? He should need months to recover. |
BackgroundChara said: Some people did enjoy Fairy Tail so why not? I'm expecting a proper conclusion mainly because of how long it already is, not some bulshit conclusion like this, i couldn't care less about who gonna die and who gonna survive, if anything I did expect Hisoka to survive. What makes it bad isHisoka become Kurapika V2? what kind of conclusion is that? you say that he want to reduce the number of Chrollo skill? so where did the Hisoka that fight just for the thrills go? the good ol Hisoka that prefer fighting people at his peak like he did with Gon? this development practically change him to a completely new character and render his character redundant because Kurapika already exist And not to mention the way he revived from dead is again, ridiculous. Are you seriously comparing Fairy Tail to HxH? You are expecting conclusion of how long what is? The fight? Considering just how much expectation was raised before this fight happened, again, it was extremely underwhelming. As for him being Kurapika V2, it's clearly not the choice. Of course his character will evolve, since something happened which caused his character to evolve - he lost the fight. He himself said so - "I bit more than I can swallow. This time, I faced an opponent on his own terms. Next time, the terms will be my own". This is alienating Hisoka from Kurapika completely. And to mention again that the way he was revived was under the already established rules of he universe. |
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SchwartZero said: It seems a bit out of character for him to do this. Right after surviving a near death experience... Then suddenly go on a killing spree! I guess he has a plan... Or several. I hope. Maybe. I thought he just took advantage of the fact those spiders were currently easy pray because they were without their abilities. Also i guess he wants to kill them as to limit Chrollo's ability to get powers. One said: Well I wasn't convinced of how Hisoka came back to life. But after doing some research, I have to believe the fact that it is possible, even though the chance is very little. There has to be one huge condition to it, which is that it's only possible upto a certain time after death. Random_Article said: The above also answers the other doubt in my mind about why Hisoka wasn't reborn as a puppet. Why did he have his consciousness? It's because his nen stimulated his heart beat after death.IN 1986, A two-and-a-half year-old girl named Michelle Funk fell into a stream and drowned. By the time paramedics found her, she hadn’t been breathing for more than an hour. Her heart was stopped. In other words, she was dead. Somewhat inexplicably, the paramedics continued to work on her, and so did doctors in the emergency room. Then, three hours after she died, Michelle Funk took a breath and her heart fluttered back into action. And my last question was that why was Hisoka seeking vengeance right after being revived? HxH_Wiki said: But there's a plothole in this theory as well. If Hisoka is indeed conscious and not being controlled by the will of his Nen, why is he still seeking vengeance?Sometimes death can reinforce an ability's strength. If someone dies holding a deep grudge, their Nen will remain and seek out the object of hatred Not vengeance just improving his chances as i see it(along with having fun because his a murderous bastard that enjoys killing people). For example now that he killed those two their nen will disappear and Chrollo won't be able to use the tactic he used to win against him this time. |
MonadJun 21, 2016 2:44 AM
| Wow. I bother to read on only to get to a prophetic chapter of disappointment. One of the more ridiculous ways I've seen of bringing a character back to life. So much nope. |
| "Let Justice Be Done!" My Theme Fight again, fight again for justice! |
| Machi is fucking ugly when she's pissed... Kurapika x Hisoka team up please! Not really happy about Shalnark and Kortopi dying off screened though. |
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Solunus said: It's also lame how he took out two spiders instantly. yeah it's kinda lame , i mean all spiders members are strong , and he took them in same time the other guy didn't feel any nen lol Ot : what a turn of event , why he is attacking spiders? i could only think of revenge for what their boss did to him. |
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| I have to bump this topic because I'm curious, Do you guys think Hisoka and Chrollo will fight again? If so, Who will win? (I think it's obvious should they meet again Hisoka will win but I want to hear your logic) I also noticed people complaining about Shalnark and Kortopi dying without a fight. I know they had some nen missing but maybe it was Togashi's way of showing us how much stronger Hisoka has gotten after his revival. Or at least how strong his assassination skills are against the spiders. If they didn't put up a decent fight it's probably cause there wasn't one. They were completely overpowered. But that's my opinion ! |
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| @kramXD the only idiot here is you , first of all why are using caps lock. let me guess  secondly don't use words that make no sense , what's hatsu , do u think everyone here is from jap. and nope we are not gonna drop it. |
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| @AllenVonStein Hatsu is their specific Nen ability as for the the insta double kill you have to remember that ALL of Hisoka's Nen was supercharged by his death, he maybe could of probably recreate limbs with gum and texture surprise before but he definitely couldn't bind a spider with just his Bungee Gum before (we saw the limitations of it during the dodgeball match) so Hisoka with super charged Nen and actually only fighting on advantages terms for him make ridiculously strong now and a serious threat to the troupe probably more dangerous then Kurapika but that's for another discussion and that's all before he's getting the drop on two intelligence based spiders (they have their own system based on their nen abilities i,e the enhancers do the fighting and are most easily replaced and so on) WITHOUT their hatsu (nen abilities) |
StefanHereSep 14, 2016 10:59 AM
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| I'll hold my judgment as all of this small arcs(?), served only as small pieces for a big puzzle called Dark Continet Arc, we'll have a better view after all the pieces came together. Some unexplained things, asspulls, plot armors you name it might come into a better light later. As for now? Yeah the title of this chapter had already explained it better. |
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| I knew it ever since: Hisoka should have fought Meruem. |
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| I'm disappointed in this chapter because I feel like a few tweaks were all it really needed in order to be, maybe not a great chapter, but at least a decent one transitioning back to the Dark Continent stuff. Unlike a number of comments here, I am willing to buy into the Nen after death move of Hisoka's... to a certain degree. The idea that he could use Bungee Gum to forcibly expand and contract, thus performing CPR on himself, would be a viable tactic for revival in this situation since he died of suffocation; and it is consistent with the properties of the ability as we know it. The problem for me lies less with the tactic itself and more with the timing of everything. This technique would be a lot more reasonable in my mind if it happened moments or minutes after death. But the fact that it has been much longer (since rescue crews have arrived, the results are being reported on the news, and the Troupe has moved Hisoka elsewhere) just means that Hisoka should have woken up to find himself a vegetable. Additionally, it seems weird that it would have taken this long for it to activate since it does not feel like you should be able to control the timing of Nen after death; and, in the case of Pitou previously, it took effect very shortly after dying. All in all, this set up just reeks of contrivance. I would have been much happier to see Hisoka die, Chrollo briefly confirm it and leave (since he was responsible for a massive explosion and the death of quite a few audience members, a hasty exit would make sense), Hisoka's Nen could then activate and revive him, Hisoka could seek of Machi separately, and then everything else could have played out as is. Oh well. On a positive note though, I am happy to see that the Troupe and Hisoka will be playing a role in this arc. It will be interesting to see all of these factions fight it out. |
| People again complaining about asspulls and this time i agree... like wtf... and hisoka's motives behind killing the spiders are unclear (i dont care if he can do in a instant or not). The phantom troupe are the only good group of cast in hunter x hunter and if they are gone... this series will get lackluster for me. Because zodiacs are such bland people and most cast is just average... i dont remember a single name from zodiacs. While i member all warlords, admirals, yonkos names from one piece. |
| What manga are you guys reading? Hisoka's motives are clear as day. It's to upset and break Chrollo mentally. Plus he likes to fight strong characters, every spider has always been on his "fun"-list. |
| Why are people so upset about the deaths of remorseless murderers such as the Spiders?! Kurapika will eventually kill 5 of them and Hisoka also coming after them makes this more convenient. Also Chrollo used other Shalnak and Kortopi's abilities which gave him a very unfair advantage. Its proper that Hisoka gets revenge by killing them. I think its good that some are starting to die as I would like to see all of them dead by the time HXH ends (which is admittedly far off but its a start) |
Isterio said: I wanna be civil about this, I´ve started reading HxH recently I´m not caught up, but I read the chapters alongside the other Jump releases on Thursday. No offense to the dedicated fans, but how does this differ to the "bullshit" every popular Battle Shounen pullls?I just don´t know how HxH fans want to defend it as a Seinen with no plot armor after this and the Gon incident. Hi can you tell me what the plot armor means? ?and what happened with Gon incident? ? |
naens said: Isterio said: Nobody says it's a seinen. And "no plot armor" is the most stupid thing to say about a series. The quality of plot / writing / characters doesn't depend on that. The author can push the plot the way he wants and it sometimes looks like "plot armor". But it's not the right way to judge whether a series is good or not. Because everything, every plot twist or plot progression can be seen as "plot armor".I just don´t know how HxH fans are wanna defend it as a Seinen with no plot armor after this and the Gon incident. Can you tell me what the plot armor means? ? |
| Everything makes sense. At first this whole fight felt like it didn't really fit in the middle of everything else this arc, but it's a great setup for things to come. I love how Shalnark and Kortopi are killed off this quickly and to see their bodies like that is really effective. |
| Hisoka pulled out the biggest Jesus I have seen in manga, wow. Shalnark was one of my favorite Ryodan members, sad to see him die instantly. |
| the commentator and the spectators were braindead. these 2 monsters were literally slaughtering most of them and all they did was stand around and watch like idiots. xD anyway, i was dissapointed with the outcome of this fight, since i wanted hisoka to win. not just because i like him more, but also because the way chrollo fought was really cheap. now i really hope he gets his revenge. |
| Omg.. this chapter was pure fire. So Hisoka not only came back from the head, he decided to retaliate against the spiders. Two down, 10 to go.. WOW |
| Amazing chapter, Hisoka lost the battle but revive, and in 2 pages eliminated 2 spiders, amazing jsut!!! |
| Six (6)years later and after an initial mixed reception, this fight is the best in HxH and one of the greatest in Manga history |
| F0XFIRE said: OP 4 most butthurt bitch on MAL. |
| holy shit! hisoka is unstoppable he already killed 2 of them like it was nothing and to be honest shalnark didn't had his needles and i never seen koltopi on the offense, so the rest of the troupe aren't going to be that easy spiders are going to dark continent as well, kurapika is going to be happy |
| Oh my goodness this might be one of the greatest chapters in all of HxH. Incredible. Hisoka coming back to life is CRAZY. I wonder who would've won if Hisoka didn't fight in Chrollo's ideal conditions. Hisoka declaring to kill all the spiders is insane!!! I'm happy he didn't kill waifu Machi tho, he seems to have a soft spot for her. I can't believed he immediately killed Kortopi and Shalnark just like that. The man is a beast. Bruh the Troupe are going on the expedition to the Dark Continent as well, this is going to be ridiculous. So many big-name characters on the voyage. And did Chrollo not steal Shalnark's ability? Maybe he can borrow them too. Not sure. Either way I guess he's lost it permanently now! Same with Kortopi's ability. |
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| At the time of the release people really hated this chapter dang... Hisoka is a demon, rip shalnark and kortopi, I kinda liked shalnark.. |
Just1BroFeb 4, 2023 5:12 PM
Hisoka on a hunt right now, idk if machi is alive or dead. Cause I really liked her but but any way Hisoka won't be dying he is a major antagonist after all. I can't wait for a chrollo vs Hisoka rematch. |
BauaMaregaJul 9, 2023 3:24 AM
| Lol it's gonna come a time in that Hiso would be so inorganic like 100% rubber body 😁 |
Berry-VodkaAug 5, 2023 7:44 PM
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| Total 7 chapters and this. Damn utter disappointment indeed. Not just his revive was ass pull. His character took complete 180. Literal waste of such good character. |
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