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Jun 6, 2023 2:52 PM
#201
if ufotable is lazy what am i |
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Jun 6, 2023 6:00 PM
#203
Be more grateful for what you are getting |
Jun 6, 2023 8:03 PM
#204
Leon888 said: Now that I'm seeing a lot more things about demon slayer, I understand that ufotable could have added a lot of things in the anime, for example some demon backstories, like Enmu's or Gyokko's, even Daki's (remember we saw only Gyutaro's point of view, but we have never seen Daki's point of view), there are also some spin off works also dedicated to hashira Rengoku, Tomioka and Sanemi, which I bet will never be animated, it hurts me to see that Ufotable is satisfied only with copying the manga 1:1, instead of improving the work with additional information or correcting some points of the story (the only thing that has improved in the manga are the drawings, due to ufotable's animations), this laziness of ufotable honestly makes me turn up my nose, since demon slayer is their flagship anime, and what do you think? you're seriously stupid |
Jun 6, 2023 8:20 PM
#205
Leon888 said: There were words of critique, sure, but they were not close in numbers and intensity to what we could see in SSV arc anime's case. You'd expect people to be more picky about mediocre CGI used in a movie than CGI used in a TV series. Movies usually present way higher quality than TV series, due to budget, their length (feature length movies lasting for 2 hours still last more than 12 episodes, 20 minutes each)... And yet, somehow many people didn't see anything wrong with it, unlike CGI from the current season. CGI that looks either the same or better than Enmu's tentacles known from the Infinite Train arc movie adaptation.but the cgi of the mugen train had also been criticized, the cgi of Enmu on the train sucked, just as this cgi on the fish sucks, and if we want to go into detail, even the cgi of the dragons clashes with the 2d, and if we want to be picky also the characters when they make them in 3d are very ugly to see |
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Jun 6, 2023 11:35 PM
#206
thats on the mangaka, not the studio. NOT going the extra mile is not lazy. |
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Jun 7, 2023 12:10 AM
#207
Alexioos95 said: you were the only one to mention 16-year-old people, misclassifying an age group, just because 16 is antipic to you, from these assumptions you appear more immature than someone who is 16, if that's really the case. Also am I saying nonsense? Come on tell me demon slayer is a well written work.Leon888 said: the difference is that those anime do not start from a junk source material, they are well written stories Ah... So in the end , you are just a hater trying to pass of as a nitpicking fan... Yep , you truly are a kid. I guess it explain your reaction as to when we mentionned 16 years old peoples. |
Jun 7, 2023 12:13 AM
#208
PriinceYuki said: the bro, he doesn't know how to make an anime worthy of the name, all the things you are saying are useless, chainsaw man had valid reasons to be criticized, and also we are not talking about studio Mappa which ruined aot, but about ufotableLeon888 said: original scene of tengen vs gyutaro turned the world upside down ? Yes, but in a good way, did the rengoku filler turn the world upside down? Always yes, but in a positive sense, so adding extra scenes to deepen the characters (which were always written by the same author) would turn the world upside down? answer this question My argument's not about adding scenes, it's about wanting studios to uniquely adapt and add things they want to a source material. And yes we've seen time and again the whole vocal community does turn upside down, as it did with the chainsaw man. When the director took a unique direction everyone hated to the point of getting him removed. When a studio tries to do things creatively to "imprpove" upon the source material, it will either help or harm the story, when it harms people will go crazy about why they deviated from the manga, then when the studio faithfully follows the manga they'll complain for more? It's not fair for you to hate when they don't faithfully adapt a manga, but then also complain when they do faithfully adapt. It's hypocritical and spoiled. Don't just spam reply to random people without reading and understanding what they're saying first unless you want to look like a troll. |
Jun 7, 2023 12:15 AM
#209
AyatoKiris said: the author has already been criticized for many reasons, now it's ufotable studio, yes people expect the bare minimum, but there's a reason this season is criticized by everyone (and I'm not talking about the fish in cgi)Leon888 said: AyatoKiris said: FZREMAKE said: Damn you sound greedy af. Since when did being accurate to the manga became a problem? this >>> but fans always have something to complain about.. critize the author for not putting those backstories up, not the studio. It's fine if Ufotable adapts the manga as accurate as possible. Adding extra stuff like backstories that didn't happen in the manga or stretching the Tengen vs. Gyutaro fight (in a good way) is a nice to have but not a must have. They CAN but they don't have to if they don't see any problems staying true to the source material and don't think it's necessary. As long as they haven't been paid to do some specific changes, "copying the manga 1:1" is the bare minimum. It's enough for me and I don't see any issues with that. |
Jun 7, 2023 12:19 AM
#210
FZREMAKE said: literally it's a lazy and confused writing, just look at Nezuko who is the biggest plot hole in all demon slayer ... and also there is a reason why battle shonen are so criticized, but you can also find exceptions, HxH or Full metal alcehmist for exampleLeon888 said: You could say that about almost every other shonen anime. Upper 4 literally became a clone after his neck was cut. Idk man if he had actually shown his true form in the beginning you guys would have called it lazy writing and be hella confused.FZREMAKE said: Leon888 said: Tbh yes this is a comparatively weaker arc but that has nothing to do with the studio. Pacing is fine as well. These complains always happen when we watch a action packed episode weekly. Binge watching will change the opinion of many. This happened with the previous season as well and also the new bleach season had a similar problem at first.FZREMAKE said: sorry didn't you see all the fans complaining about this season just because it's badly written? I still have to understand why the 4 upper attacked the demon slayers, with meme emotions, if he had a more powerful form with which to kill them immediately, i.e. 4 episodes of useless clashesAbzy1239 said: Yeah I agree. If an anime deviates from the manga then anime fans are displeased and now we have this case. I mean the only understandable cases are when the ending or stuff in the manga are completely incomprehensible. That's when an "anime only" change is OK. I don't see the need for it here though.FZREMAKE said: Damn you sound greedy af. Since when did being accurate to the manga became a problem? he hasn't see Tokyo ghoul or promised Neverland and ufotable has not copied but did the manga justice that every writer wants And why wouldn't upper 4 use his clones when he literally has the power to do so. What is the point of going all out so early. I mean why would he show off his real form so quickly when he might have a chance with his weaker yet multiple clones. Besides isn't it much effective that way. He might be able to wear out his enemies or maybe trick them more. What would be the point of his power if he isn't able to efficiently use it in battle. Going all out from the start when he has such a tricky power would be such a waste in my opinion. |
Jun 7, 2023 12:21 AM
#211
samthestan said: Leon888 said: samthestan said: Lazy??? You need glasses. if you want extra content, go read doujins and fanfics Nah bruh I can see the screen just fine RobertsahDHDA said: It makes more millions than any other anime, ImaoDemon Slayer is NOT their flagship anime lmfao.... |
Jun 7, 2023 12:26 AM
#212
Mienus said: Bro, are you telling me that Berserk or vinland saga are not the pinnacle of manga? if so then better not even comment because I would only waste timeLeon888 said: But, if they showed them, you wouldn't have anything to say about it, would you? I'm not really sure what you're referring to here. then those people who like the demon slayer manga should read other manga not only demon slayer, like Vinland saga, Berserk or even Monster Why are any of these manga relevant? Are you insisting that people only like Demon Slayer because they haven't read any of those other manga? Because the same logic can just as easily be applied to them. People only think Monster, or Berserk, or Vinland Saga are good because they haven't read stuff like Summit of the Gods, or Red Colored Elegy, or Sangokushi. It's not really a good argument, but like I said, the "quality" of Demon Slayer, or any of these stories for that matter, is completely irrelevant to my point. |
Jun 7, 2023 12:32 AM
#213
Rokenix said: another confirmation that you don't understand anything, did they suffer to give us demon killers? do you know how ufotable works? if you don't know why are you talking? Madonna the delay of people who speak without knowing, moreover, yours will also be an opinion, but a shitty opinion that is not worth taking into consideration, keep watching demon slayer, that is the only thing you are good atLeon888 said: Rokenix said: considering the working conditions and what it takes to get shows out on time/at all. you should be grateful we even get to watch this masterpiece. saying they should "just do this" or that they're lazy is Insulting. being an animator especially at the level ufotable is at takes years of dedication, late nights, missed opportunity, time away from. family, etc. I doubt you've even worked hard at anything for longer than a year based on your greediness which is oozing out of this post. literally shut up. calling it a masterpiece was my own opinion... not sure if you're aware what that word means, maybe google it or go back to English class. this conversation was about ufotable being "lazy" I commented that there is an immense amount of work that needs to be done for these shows to even come out. which you obviously do not understand, a large proportion of animators or overworked and underpaid yet they still have deadlines they need to meet. THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT LAZY. all you're doing is going on a tyrant replying to people you don't agree with. literal child behavior, it's a cartoon show made by people on the other side of the world at the end of the day. no matter what you say or complain about, the studio will never read it and doesn't care about your opinion, and neither do most other people. Get off the app and maybe go for a walk or something dude. |
Jun 7, 2023 12:34 AM
#214
_FireDragon333 said: I should be thankful why are they animating demon slayer ? A work bordering on mediocrity? Don't make me laugh, I would appreciate if they animate, Berserk, Vagabond or even tower of god, certainly not for demon slayerBe more grateful for what you are getting |
Jun 7, 2023 12:41 AM
#215
Adnash said: i think more that that is also because the mugen train arc was better than this in season 3 so people tend to defend it more just see aot with mappa, people defended it harshly even though it was undeniable that the cgi it suckedLeon888 said: There were words of critique, sure, but they were not close in numbers and intensity to what we could see in SSV arc anime's case. You'd expect people to be more picky about mediocre CGI used in a movie than CGI used in a TV series. Movies usually present way higher quality than TV series, due to budget, their length (feature length movies lasting for 2 hours still last more than 12 episodes, 20 minutes each)... And yet, somehow many people didn't see anything wrong with it, unlike CGI from the current season. CGI that looks either the same or better than Enmu's tentacles known from the Infinite Train arc movie adaptation.but the cgi of the mugen train had also been criticized, the cgi of Enmu on the train sucked, just as this cgi on the fish sucks, and if we want to go into detail, even the cgi of the dragons clashes with the 2d, and if we want to be picky also the characters when they make them in 3d are very ugly to see |
Jun 7, 2023 1:04 AM
#216
Leon888 said: Here it's a matter of taste, to be fair. If you take a look at critical opinions about Mugen Train movie from the past (I repeat: critical opinions, so not mindless ranting done by haters), you might see similar arguments as many people are giving nowadays while talking about literally every season of Demon Slayer anime. I agree that Mugen Train movie was better in general than what we have seen up until now from the third season, but it doesn't matter here. What we are talking about is how some people are decreasing their standards only to increase them in the moment they find as convenient for them. All of this instead of just looking fairly at the series, with decent dose of critique and appreciation.i think more that that is also because the mugen train arc was better than this in season 3 so people tend to defend it more just see aot with mappa, people defended it harshly even though it was undeniable that the cgi it sucked About Attack on Titan, you've mentioned MAPPA, but their CGI was not half bad. It was better than in most seasonal animes, and represented quality better than Wit Studio's CGI from Seasons 1-3. ;p |
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Jun 7, 2023 1:59 AM
#217
Leon888 said: The episode you're referring to is part of the Tv edition of the mugen train arc. No one even cared about that since most fans had already seen the film beforehand. Obviously if you choose to rewatch the same arc in a Tv format, you're going in for extra content and not just a 1:1 adaptation. StaleNut said: strange, no one had complained about the filler episode based on Rengoku, from these assumptions the only one without a brain here is just youAnimation studios literally can't win with ya'll braindead fans I swear. Whenever they change or add stuff from the source material, they receive backlash, and whenever they adapt the manga 1:1, they still receive backlash. This community is honestly pathetic. |
Jun 7, 2023 3:23 AM
#218
Gonna be real with you, my dude. I think we got too many demon backstories as is. Feels tedious every time we get backstory of demons who are either completely unsympathetic even with their backstory and/or who are about to die anyway. Having more of that would make the show unbearable to sit through imo |
Jun 7, 2023 3:41 AM
#219
Leon888 said: Thanks you proved my point for me. Hate ≠ criticismPriinceYuki said: the bro, he doesn't know how to make an anime worthy of the name, all the things you are saying are useless, chainsaw man had valid reasons to be criticized, and also we are not talking about studio Mappa which ruined aot, but about ufotableMy argument's not about adding scenes, it's about wanting studios to uniquely adapt and add things they want to a source material. And yes we've seen time and again the whole vocal community does turn upside down, as it did with the chainsaw man. When the director took a unique direction everyone hated to the point of getting him removed. When a studio tries to do things creatively to "imprpove" upon the source material, it will either help or harm the story, when it harms people will go crazy about why they deviated from the manga, then when the studio faithfully follows the manga they'll complain for more? It's not fair for you to hate when they don't faithfully adapt a manga, but then also complain when they do faithfully adapt. It's hypocritical and spoiled. Don't just spam reply to random people without reading and understanding what they're saying first unless you want to look like a troll. |
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Jun 7, 2023 4:44 AM
#220
Leon888 said: Yes your reasoning is not convincing at all.FZREMAKE said: literally it's a lazy and confused writing, just look at Nezuko who is the biggest plot hole in all demon slayer ... and also there is a reason why battle shonen are so criticized, but you can also find exceptions, HxH or Full metal alcehmist for exampleLeon888 said: FZREMAKE said: that he could have killed immediately and finished, but no, better to show 4 episodes of useless fights that lead nowhere, since killing the 4 emotions was uselessLeon888 said: Tbh yes this is a comparatively weaker arc but that has nothing to do with the studio. Pacing is fine as well. These complains always happen when we watch a action packed episode weekly. Binge watching will change the opinion of many. This happened with the previous season as well and also the new bleach season had a similar problem at first.FZREMAKE said: sorry didn't you see all the fans complaining about this season just because it's badly written? I still have to understand why the 4 upper attacked the demon slayers, with meme emotions, if he had a more powerful form with which to kill them immediately, i.e. 4 episodes of useless clashesAbzy1239 said: Yeah I agree. If an anime deviates from the manga then anime fans are displeased and now we have this case. I mean the only understandable cases are when the ending or stuff in the manga are completely incomprehensible. That's when an "anime only" change is OK. I don't see the need for it here though.FZREMAKE said: Damn you sound greedy af. Since when did being accurate to the manga became a problem? he hasn't see Tokyo ghoul or promised Neverland and ufotable has not copied but did the manga justice that every writer wants And why wouldn't upper 4 use his clones when he literally has the power to do so. What is the point of going all out so early. I mean why would he show off his real form so quickly when he might have a chance with his weaker yet multiple clones. Besides isn't it much effective that way. He might be able to wear out his enemies or maybe trick them more. What would be the point of his power if he isn't able to efficiently use it in battle. Going all out from the start when he has such a tricky power would be such a waste in my opinion. |
Jun 7, 2023 5:47 AM
#221
Leon888 said: having more insights is a great thing but demon slayer doesn't exactly do that. the only thing it does is just show u the same lame backstories for everyone. ''oh no look xyz has lost his mother,father,fanily, etc and it is so sad!!. he is your righteous and kind soul but everyone treats him like trash...and now either he becomes one of the hero or villain''. ds writing is so bland, predictable, boring and plain that it feels like a chore to go through.jeffery_dahmer said: so having more insights into the characters would make demon slayer unwatchable?Leon888 said: Now that I'm seeing a lot more things about demon slayer, I understand that ufotable could have added a lot of things in the anime, for example some demon backstories, like Enmu's or Gyokko's, even Daki's (remember we saw only Gyutaro's point of view, but we have never seen Daki's point of view), there are also some spin off works also dedicated to hashira Rengoku, Tomioka and Sanemi, which I bet will never be animated, it hurts me to see that Ufotable is satisfied only with copying the manga 1:1, instead of improving the work with additional information or correcting some points of the story (the only thing that has improved in the manga are the drawings, due to ufotable's animations), this laziness of ufotable honestly makes me turn up my nose, since demon slayer is their flagship anime, and what do you think? |
Jun 7, 2023 10:16 AM
#222
Leon888 said: Bro, are you telling me that Berserk or vinland saga are not the pinnacle of manga? It's funny how I can now start replying to you by just quoting myself Mienus said: like I said, the "quality" of Demon Slayer, or any of these stories for that matter, is completely irrelevant to my point. Leon888 said: if so then better not even comment because I would only waste time My brother in Christ, 50% of the messages in this thread are just you, you're already wasting your time. |
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Jun 7, 2023 11:59 AM
#223
imo they did a pretty good job, cant ask for more. |
Jun 7, 2023 12:11 PM
#224
Tbh I agree u. But i am thankful they are not changing or cutting story. Plus i was not a fan of rengoku filler episode they did, so yeah don't want useless episodes like that. But adaptation of those spinoff would be nice. |
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Jun 7, 2023 12:23 PM
#225
Leon888 said: 1. true to the facts or the original or 2.remaining loyal and steadfast so adding backstory's or parts that arent in the manga or in a manga thats by a different author that isnt canon or "correcting" the story would not be true to the original or remaining loyal every manga fan just wants a faithful adaptation and you guys are complaining when your getting a super faithful one truth999 said: you should go look up in the dictionary what the word faithful means, lolso you don't want a faithful adaptation lol |
Jun 7, 2023 1:50 PM
#226
Leon888 said: I mean he obviously didn't care about the question cause it was you acting like people care about your attention even tho 99% if the comments were people telling you that your opinion is wrong lmao. Hunico1234 said: brother can't answer the questions, because i put him on the spot, lolLeon888 said: Hunico1234 said: what would be the problem if I reply to the comments under my post? or does it annoy you that you're not the only one who is receiving my attention?Leon888 said: Hunico1234 said: the only one I see crying here is you, I see that you don't need much to make your tears come out πLeon888 said: Neeexxxi said: why should i prove it? if they are not able to do better, it is certainly not my faultBruh if it has backstories then people complain about the fact that a fight takes multiple episodes and now complain about not enought backstories, guys stop being cringe. If you think you can do it better then prove it Bro really crying over Demon Slayer ππ€‘ You spend whole hour crying and replying to everyone messages π€‘ you really butt hurt huh πππ it’s okay tho just make sure you put on your little orange helmet before replying back π€ Did you put on the helmet? I see what you mean with imperfection of the original work but you seem to forget how adapting a manga works cause it's not Ufotable being lazy and not adding stuff but they can't just change the like you called it "garbage" cause they need the approval of the of the author to do so if she gave green light to change the story sure but if she doesn't then ufotable can't do anything about it. I read the manga and I admit that it wasn't perfect and that we pulled a lot of asspulls in the last arc *cough*tamayo's drug*cough* but I wouldn't degrade it the way you do it. The author did the best she could to give us what she have today and while it's not comparable to something like Berserk and Vinland Saga it's definitely not that bad. (And yeah I could have kept my comment for me but tbh your rage replies killed me so I wanted to see lmao) |
Jun 7, 2023 11:54 PM
#228
Ufotable is lazy? Wth? |
Jun 8, 2023 6:08 PM
#229
Adnash said: makes me laugh that all map defenders stick to Wit's cgi to say that Mappa's cgi is beautiful, it's not that if Wit's cgi is ugly, then Mappa's cgi automatically becomes beautiful, eh, besides Wit uses it only in a couple of scenes at least, Map in every episode of all season, imagine constantly seeing ugly cgi in every single episode, it is abhorrentLeon888 said: Here it's a matter of taste, to be fair. If you take a look at critical opinions about Mugen Train movie from the past (I repeat: critical opinions, so not mindless ranting done by haters), you might see similar arguments as many people are giving nowadays while talking about literally every season of Demon Slayer anime. I agree that Mugen Train movie was better in general than what we have seen up until now from the third season, but it doesn't matter here. What we are talking about is how some people are decreasing their standards only to increase them in the moment they find as convenient for them. All of this instead of just looking fairly at the series, with decent dose of critique and appreciation.i think more that that is also because the mugen train arc was better than this in season 3 so people tend to defend it more just see aot with mappa, people defended it harshly even though it was undeniable that the cgi it sucked About Attack on Titan, you've mentioned MAPPA, but their CGI was not half bad. It was better than in most seasonal animes, and represented quality better than Wit Studio's CGI from Seasons 1-3. ;p |
Jun 8, 2023 6:11 PM
#230
StaleNut said: so let me get this straight, if you watch a movie in television format it's right that they add extra scenes, if instead it concerns a manga in anime format, no? lolLeon888 said: The episode you're referring to is part of the Tv edition of the mugen train arc. No one even cared about that since most fans had already seen the film beforehand. Obviously if you choose to rewatch the same arc in a Tv format, you're going in for extra content and not just a 1:1 adaptation. StaleNut said: Animation studios literally can't win with ya'll braindead fans I swear. Whenever they change or add stuff from the source material, they receive backlash, and whenever they adapt the manga 1:1, they still receive backlash. This community is honestly pathetic. |
Jun 8, 2023 6:12 PM
#231
J3_Omega said: but because they are always the same stories to empathize, and not even so well written, at least that of Gyokko or Enmu, were more interesting in my opinion.Gonna be real with you, my dude. I think we got too many demon backstories as is. Feels tedious every time we get backstory of demons who are either completely unsympathetic even with their backstory and/or who are about to die anyway. Having more of that would make the show unbearable to sit through imo |
Jun 8, 2023 6:16 PM
#232
PriinceYuki said: like you, you proved you know nothing about how anime is made, lolLeon888 said: Thanks you proved my point for me. Hate ≠ criticismPriinceYuki said: My argument's not about adding scenes, it's about wanting studios to uniquely adapt and add things they want to a source material. And yes we've seen time and again the whole vocal community does turn upside down, as it did with the chainsaw man. When the director took a unique direction everyone hated to the point of getting him removed. When a studio tries to do things creatively to "imprpove" upon the source material, it will either help or harm the story, when it harms people will go crazy about why they deviated from the manga, then when the studio faithfully follows the manga they'll complain for more? It's not fair for you to hate when they don't faithfully adapt a manga, but then also complain when they do faithfully adapt. It's hypocritical and spoiled. Don't just spam reply to random people without reading and understanding what they're saying first unless you want to look like a troll. |
Jun 8, 2023 6:17 PM
#233
FZREMAKE said: just because you like demon slayer, doesn't mean it's a good work πLeon888 said: Yes your reasoning is not convincing at all.FZREMAKE said: Leon888 said: You could say that about almost every other shonen anime. Upper 4 literally became a clone after his neck was cut. Idk man if he had actually shown his true form in the beginning you guys would have called it lazy writing and be hella confused.FZREMAKE said: that he could have killed immediately and finished, but no, better to show 4 episodes of useless fights that lead nowhere, since killing the 4 emotions was uselessLeon888 said: Tbh yes this is a comparatively weaker arc but that has nothing to do with the studio. Pacing is fine as well. These complains always happen when we watch a action packed episode weekly. Binge watching will change the opinion of many. This happened with the previous season as well and also the new bleach season had a similar problem at first.FZREMAKE said: sorry didn't you see all the fans complaining about this season just because it's badly written? I still have to understand why the 4 upper attacked the demon slayers, with meme emotions, if he had a more powerful form with which to kill them immediately, i.e. 4 episodes of useless clashesAbzy1239 said: Yeah I agree. If an anime deviates from the manga then anime fans are displeased and now we have this case. I mean the only understandable cases are when the ending or stuff in the manga are completely incomprehensible. That's when an "anime only" change is OK. I don't see the need for it here though.FZREMAKE said: Damn you sound greedy af. Since when did being accurate to the manga became a problem? he hasn't see Tokyo ghoul or promised Neverland and ufotable has not copied but did the manga justice that every writer wants And why wouldn't upper 4 use his clones when he literally has the power to do so. What is the point of going all out so early. I mean why would he show off his real form so quickly when he might have a chance with his weaker yet multiple clones. Besides isn't it much effective that way. He might be able to wear out his enemies or maybe trick them more. What would be the point of his power if he isn't able to efficiently use it in battle. Going all out from the start when he has such a tricky power would be such a waste in my opinion. |
Jun 8, 2023 6:19 PM
#234
jeffery_dahmer said: lol, I know, but unfortunately Ufotable is animating this mediocre manga, at least they try to do something more, and not the classic homework that anyone can do, it's incredible how not even ufotable manages to lift such an ugly bowLeon888 said: having more insights is a great thing but demon slayer doesn't exactly do that. the only thing it does is just show u the same lame backstories for everyone. ''oh no look xyz has lost his mother,father,fanily, etc and it is so sad!!. he is your righteous and kind soul but everyone treats him like trash...and now either he becomes one of the hero or villain''. ds writing is so bland, predictable, boring and plain that it feels like a chore to go through.jeffery_dahmer said: Leon888 said: bro just how much backstories do u want lmao? literally all backstories in ds are cringe af. adding more of them would render the shit unwatchable.Now that I'm seeing a lot more things about demon slayer, I understand that ufotable could have added a lot of things in the anime, for example some demon backstories, like Enmu's or Gyokko's, even Daki's (remember we saw only Gyutaro's point of view, but we have never seen Daki's point of view), there are also some spin off works also dedicated to hashira Rengoku, Tomioka and Sanemi, which I bet will never be animated, it hurts me to see that Ufotable is satisfied only with copying the manga 1:1, instead of improving the work with additional information or correcting some points of the story (the only thing that has improved in the manga are the drawings, due to ufotable's animations), this laziness of ufotable honestly makes me turn up my nose, since demon slayer is their flagship anime, and what do you think? |
Jun 8, 2023 6:24 PM
#235
Mienus said: you're right about that, but coming to my defense of demon slayer not acknowledging that even a child could write a better story beats them allLeon888 said: Bro, are you telling me that Berserk or vinland saga are not the pinnacle of manga? It's funny how I can now start replying to you by just quoting myself Mienus said: like I said, the "quality" of Demon Slayer, or any of these stories for that matter, is completely irrelevant to my point. Leon888 said: if so then better not even comment because I would only waste time My brother in Christ, 50% of the messages in this thread are just you, you're already wasting your time. |
Jun 8, 2023 6:25 PM
#236
organikguy said: this season sucks, how can you say they did a great job?imo they did a pretty good job, cant ask for more. |
Jun 8, 2023 6:29 PM
#237
truth999 said: lol "or in a manga thats by a different author that isnt canon", did you know that the information i reported was all written by the same author of demon slayer ? and you come to tell me that they are not canonical? but why do you talk if you don't know things? I guess I can't expect much from someone who doesn't even know how a faithful adaptation worksLeon888 said: 1. true to the facts or the original or 2.remaining loyal and steadfast so adding backstory's or parts that arent in the manga or in a manga thats by a different author that isnt canon or "correcting" the story would not be true to the original or remaining loyal every manga fan just wants a faithful adaptation and you guys are complaining when your getting a super faithful one truth999 said: so you don't want a faithful adaptation lol |
Jun 8, 2023 6:32 PM
#238
Tangsan20 said: nah, i usually reply to most of the comments in my threads, i don't care if i agree or against my perspective.Leon888 said: I mean he obviously didn't care about the question cause it was you acting like people care about your attention even tho 99% if the comments were people telling you that your opinion is wrong lmao. Hunico1234 said: Leon888 said: Hunico1234 said: what would be the problem if I reply to the comments under my post? or does it annoy you that you're not the only one who is receiving my attention?Leon888 said: Hunico1234 said: the only one I see crying here is you, I see that you don't need much to make your tears come out πLeon888 said: Neeexxxi said: why should i prove it? if they are not able to do better, it is certainly not my faultBruh if it has backstories then people complain about the fact that a fight takes multiple episodes and now complain about not enought backstories, guys stop being cringe. If you think you can do it better then prove it Bro really crying over Demon Slayer ππ€‘ You spend whole hour crying and replying to everyone messages π€‘ you really butt hurt huh πππ it’s okay tho just make sure you put on your little orange helmet before replying back π€ Did you put on the helmet? I see what you mean with imperfection of the original work but you seem to forget how adapting a manga works cause it's not Ufotable being lazy and not adding stuff but they can't just change the like you called it "garbage" cause they need the approval of the of the author to do so if she gave green light to change the story sure but if she doesn't then ufotable can't do anything about it. I read the manga and I admit that it wasn't perfect and that we pulled a lot of asspulls in the last arc *cough*tamayo's drug*cough* but I wouldn't degrade it the way you do it. The author did the best she could to give us what she have today and while it's not comparable to something like Berserk and Vinland Saga it's definitely not that bad. (And yeah I could have kept my comment for me but tbh your rage replies killed me so I wanted to see lmao) Also if you have read the demon slayer manga, you should know how much it sucks, the author should have tried harder, or at least have enough knowledge to write a good story, simply her work is carried out by ufotable animation, he also had some good ideas, but obscenely implemented |
Jun 8, 2023 10:12 PM
#239
Leon888 said: But you were calling with mentioning MAPPA and their CGI in a thread dedicated to Demon Slayer Season 3, kekw. If you mention something, then be prepared for folks to reply.makes me laugh that all map defenders stick to Wit's cgi to say that Mappa's cgi is beautiful, it's not that if Wit's cgi is ugly, then Mappa's cgi automatically becomes beautiful, eh, besides Wit uses it only in a couple of scenes at least, Map in every episode of all season, imagine constantly seeing ugly cgi in every single episode, it is abhorrent On a side note, no one used a fallacy of hasty generalization you mentioned in your post. No idea why you brought it in this thread as well. If a bird can defeat a worm, it doesn't mean a bird can automatically defeat any other species, lol. |
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Jun 9, 2023 2:30 AM
#240
Leon888 said: Just because you don't like demon slayer doesn't mean it's a bad work πFZREMAKE said: just because you like demon slayer, doesn't mean it's a good work πLeon888 said: FZREMAKE said: literally it's a lazy and confused writing, just look at Nezuko who is the biggest plot hole in all demon slayer ... and also there is a reason why battle shonen are so criticized, but you can also find exceptions, HxH or Full metal alcehmist for exampleLeon888 said: You could say that about almost every other shonen anime. Upper 4 literally became a clone after his neck was cut. Idk man if he had actually shown his true form in the beginning you guys would have called it lazy writing and be hella confused.FZREMAKE said: that he could have killed immediately and finished, but no, better to show 4 episodes of useless fights that lead nowhere, since killing the 4 emotions was uselessLeon888 said: Tbh yes this is a comparatively weaker arc but that has nothing to do with the studio. Pacing is fine as well. These complains always happen when we watch a action packed episode weekly. Binge watching will change the opinion of many. This happened with the previous season as well and also the new bleach season had a similar problem at first.FZREMAKE said: sorry didn't you see all the fans complaining about this season just because it's badly written? I still have to understand why the 4 upper attacked the demon slayers, with meme emotions, if he had a more powerful form with which to kill them immediately, i.e. 4 episodes of useless clashesAbzy1239 said: Yeah I agree. If an anime deviates from the manga then anime fans are displeased and now we have this case. I mean the only understandable cases are when the ending or stuff in the manga are completely incomprehensible. That's when an "anime only" change is OK. I don't see the need for it here though.FZREMAKE said: Damn you sound greedy af. Since when did being accurate to the manga became a problem? he hasn't see Tokyo ghoul or promised Neverland and ufotable has not copied but did the manga justice that every writer wants And why wouldn't upper 4 use his clones when he literally has the power to do so. What is the point of going all out so early. I mean why would he show off his real form so quickly when he might have a chance with his weaker yet multiple clones. Besides isn't it much effective that way. He might be able to wear out his enemies or maybe trick them more. What would be the point of his power if he isn't able to efficiently use it in battle. Going all out from the start when he has such a tricky power would be such a waste in my opinion. |
Jun 9, 2023 5:33 AM
#241
it's not up to them to change or add something to the story you dumbass |
Jun 9, 2023 5:35 AM
#242
Leon888 said: you're right about that, but coming to my defense of demon slayer not acknowledging that even a child could write a better story beats them all what about this do you not understand? maybe i'm not explaining this in the right way. Mienus said: like I said, the "quality" of Demon Slayer, or any of these stories for that matter, is completely irrelevant to my point. |
People who put MAL stats in their sigs are losers lol |
Jun 9, 2023 7:01 AM
#243
Leon888 said: Yeah...it's common sense. Why else would you rewatch the same content in different formats if not for the extra scenes? Why sit through many episodes with 0 differences if you can just watch the movie version? I'm not saying it is a bad thing to add more depth to a series by adding stuff that isn't in the manga, however in a lot of cases these extra scenes are completely unnecessary and receive a ton of backlash by fans of the source material, hence my initial reply to the OP.StaleNut said: so let me get this straight, if you watch a movie in television format it's right that they add extra scenes, if instead it concerns a manga in anime format, no? lolLeon888 said: StaleNut said: strange, no one had complained about the filler episode based on Rengoku, from these assumptions the only one without a brain here is just youAnimation studios literally can't win with ya'll braindead fans I swear. Whenever they change or add stuff from the source material, they receive backlash, and whenever they adapt the manga 1:1, they still receive backlash. This community is honestly pathetic. |
Jun 9, 2023 1:42 PM
#244
FZREMAKE said: yet everyone will practically tell you that it sucks, and that it only lives for the ufotable animation, how do we put it like this ? hahaLeon888 said: Just because you don't like demon slayer doesn't mean it's a bad work πFZREMAKE said: Leon888 said: Yes your reasoning is not convincing at all.FZREMAKE said: literally it's a lazy and confused writing, just look at Nezuko who is the biggest plot hole in all demon slayer ... and also there is a reason why battle shonen are so criticized, but you can also find exceptions, HxH or Full metal alcehmist for exampleLeon888 said: You could say that about almost every other shonen anime. Upper 4 literally became a clone after his neck was cut. Idk man if he had actually shown his true form in the beginning you guys would have called it lazy writing and be hella confused.FZREMAKE said: that he could have killed immediately and finished, but no, better to show 4 episodes of useless fights that lead nowhere, since killing the 4 emotions was uselessLeon888 said: Tbh yes this is a comparatively weaker arc but that has nothing to do with the studio. Pacing is fine as well. These complains always happen when we watch a action packed episode weekly. Binge watching will change the opinion of many. This happened with the previous season as well and also the new bleach season had a similar problem at first.FZREMAKE said: sorry didn't you see all the fans complaining about this season just because it's badly written? I still have to understand why the 4 upper attacked the demon slayers, with meme emotions, if he had a more powerful form with which to kill them immediately, i.e. 4 episodes of useless clashesAbzy1239 said: Yeah I agree. If an anime deviates from the manga then anime fans are displeased and now we have this case. I mean the only understandable cases are when the ending or stuff in the manga are completely incomprehensible. That's when an "anime only" change is OK. I don't see the need for it here though.FZREMAKE said: Damn you sound greedy af. Since when did being accurate to the manga became a problem? he hasn't see Tokyo ghoul or promised Neverland and ufotable has not copied but did the manga justice that every writer wants And why wouldn't upper 4 use his clones when he literally has the power to do so. What is the point of going all out so early. I mean why would he show off his real form so quickly when he might have a chance with his weaker yet multiple clones. Besides isn't it much effective that way. He might be able to wear out his enemies or maybe trick them more. What would be the point of his power if he isn't able to efficiently use it in battle. Going all out from the start when he has such a tricky power would be such a waste in my opinion. |
Jun 9, 2023 1:43 PM
#245
Mienus said: that comment was not referring to you, I was speaking in generalLeon888 said: you're right about that, but coming to my defense of demon slayer not acknowledging that even a child could write a better story beats them all what about this do you not understand? maybe i'm not explaining this in the right way. Mienus said: like I said, the "quality" of Demon Slayer, or any of these stories for that matter, is completely irrelevant to my point. |
Jun 9, 2023 3:41 PM
#246
Leon888 said: I agree that the manga wasn't the greatest to begin with and the anime is being carried by the animation but I still wouldn't call it bad it lacks some creativity and logical writing from time to time but it's still a decent work I mean if we really wanna talk about actual garbage let's go to the isekai section anime there you can find a lot of garbage lmaoTangsan20 said: nah, i usually reply to most of the comments in my threads, i don't care if i agree or against my perspective.Leon888 said: Hunico1234 said: brother can't answer the questions, because i put him on the spot, lolLeon888 said: Hunico1234 said: what would be the problem if I reply to the comments under my post? or does it annoy you that you're not the only one who is receiving my attention?Leon888 said: Hunico1234 said: the only one I see crying here is you, I see that you don't need much to make your tears come out πLeon888 said: Neeexxxi said: why should i prove it? if they are not able to do better, it is certainly not my faultBruh if it has backstories then people complain about the fact that a fight takes multiple episodes and now complain about not enought backstories, guys stop being cringe. If you think you can do it better then prove it Bro really crying over Demon Slayer ππ€‘ You spend whole hour crying and replying to everyone messages π€‘ you really butt hurt huh πππ it’s okay tho just make sure you put on your little orange helmet before replying back π€ Did you put on the helmet? I see what you mean with imperfection of the original work but you seem to forget how adapting a manga works cause it's not Ufotable being lazy and not adding stuff but they can't just change the like you called it "garbage" cause they need the approval of the of the author to do so if she gave green light to change the story sure but if she doesn't then ufotable can't do anything about it. I read the manga and I admit that it wasn't perfect and that we pulled a lot of asspulls in the last arc *cough*tamayo's drug*cough* but I wouldn't degrade it the way you do it. The author did the best she could to give us what she have today and while it's not comparable to something like Berserk and Vinland Saga it's definitely not that bad. (And yeah I could have kept my comment for me but tbh your rage replies killed me so I wanted to see lmao) Also if you have read the demon slayer manga, you should know how much it sucks, the author should have tried harder, or at least have enough knowledge to write a good story, simply her work is carried out by ufotable animation, he also had some good ideas, but obscenely implemented |
Jun 9, 2023 8:09 PM
#247
Gaah, I was sooo upset there wasn't a backstory included for Enmu!!! </3 Like, they included backstories for basically all of the demons, but Enmu, even getting a major film and popularity over the op character design, got zilch. The showcasing of the character felt far flat, despite the hype - due to this. T.T Honestly, the backstories for the demons are such an important part of Demon Slayer - otherwise it's just slash and kill... "ok? a demon died... ok... " *feels nothing* That said, I don't feel ufotable is lazy in this aspect at all. Adding additional material beyond 1:1 is a questionable request to make of the studio without the mangaka. Daki's story was well covered via gyutaro, I guess it could have been cool to have some flashing back from her end; but I feel she was covered very well in the prelude to the fight. There are some qualms I have with the flow and weight of scenes etc. this season. this is probably an oversight on UFO tables adapting side. it's a difficult aspect of film, and might come down simply to the episode time restrictions. but some of the scenes should be held for a little longer rather than jumping, to give them better weighting. albeit, there may be some scenes where they stretch too much as well. it's a difficult production skill even for seasoned studios. |
Jun 9, 2023 11:19 PM
#248
Vyaiskaya said: It was added later on in the Second Fanbook. You can read it here: https://kimetsu-no-yaiba.fandom.com/wiki/Enmu#History Warning! His story is pretty disturbing (as one could expect... we are talking about Enmu after all, lol).Gaah, I was sooo upset there wasn't a backstory included for Enmu!!! </3 Enmu and Gyokko share similar situation when it comes to backstories. They were both written by Gotouge and added to the Second Fanbook, but hadn't appeared originally in the manga. Sadly, they weren't implemented anyhow to the anime adaptations of arcs during which said characters appeared. Too bad, given we are talking about two powerful demons: Lower Moon 1 with amplified power, and Upper Moon 5. |
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Jun 10, 2023 2:54 AM
#249
Jun 10, 2023 12:02 PM
#250
Lol let's honest you never watch studio pierrot's work that's why getting all greedy and non sense I am grateful to ufotable they're honest with the source and author's work they didn't tried to add anything extra in characters or literally destroyed the work otherwise another disaster like naruto I've to see with those damn fillers(btw I love naruto but prefer manga the original work of the author sorry it's just I don't like sp and how they're so biased with characters as if they're making their own fanfictions) |
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