Magical Girl Raising Project (light novel)
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Zefyris said: Woodfall said: I was hoping for that Cranberry vs Ripple/Snow White matchup. It sounds like the LN elaborates a lot more on things than the anime does? If so, I wouldn't mind giving it a read. Clamberry would have won extremely easily that fight, and the result would have been Clamberry surviving, so no story to tell there. Like I said, there was no other choice nor possibility. Well I would have been fine with that too. If Cranberry can make a goof against Swim Swim and Tama, then I'm sure it would have been possible against Ripple and Snow White. Especially seeing that Cranberry probably views Snow White the same as Tama, very inferior. All in all it was interesting, I just hate how Swim Swim got off easy against her lol |
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| A transformation sequence? Nostalgic, but this late in the series? lol I never know what to expect in this damn show. Zefyris said: Her death could only be anticlimatic. If she didn't die this time, the story wouldn't be about this time, and if she died, that couldn't be after an epic fight, because she 100% win those against any of the first arc magical girls. You know, I really liked that Tama was the one to kill Cranberry, but I still call BS on that fight with La Pucelle. He chopped right through her neck. She doesn't have magical invulnerablility like Swim and Alice, that should've been the end of her. |
| Huh, that was unexpected ... so Cranberry figures out Swim's weakness, light and sound and how convenient, she can manipulate sound :P Too bad she gets too focused on her and forgets about Tama, who digs a hole into her body ... LOL that was unexpected! Unfortunately she also happens to see Swim's real identity, so she has to kill her in response. She ends up being the new "Master" huh ... interesting! With her new powers she should easily be able to kill Ripple though. Nice to see Ruler taking the time to go through stuff with Tama too lol, I guess she has a nice side to her. Ripple remembering Top Speed ... aww man :( Seems like she's going after Swim so they'll cut the remaining 3 down to 2 ... well obviously one of them will die, then what happens to Snow White? Not to mention we get a transformation sequence?! That was unexpected XD Oh and also the bit at the beginning - so Fav just kind of "accidentally" let a demon go wild at a Magical Girl examination ...? LOL, interesting XD |
qwertyMrJINX said: A transformation sequence? Nostalgic, but this late in the series? lol I never know what to expect in this damn show. Zefyris said: Her death could only be anticlimatic. If she didn't die this time, the story wouldn't be about this time, and if she died, that couldn't be after an epic fight, because she 100% win those against any of the first arc magical girls. You know, I really liked that Tama was the one to kill Cranberry, but I still call BS on that fight with La Pucelle. He chopped right through her neck. She doesn't have magical invulnerablility like Swim and Alice, that should've been the end of her. Hmm that wasn't the neck at all, that was her torso/stomach. And La pucelle's sword wasn't able to deeply cut, unfortunately. saw how she was blocking La pucelle's sword with her bare arms earlier? yeah, she's quite tanky. The amount of blood was very exaggerated too, I guess they wanted to make the viewer believe that La Pucelle actually won. Woodfall said: Zefyris said: Clamberry would have won extremely easily that fight, and the result would have been Clamberry surviving, so no story to tell there. Like I said, there was no other choice nor possibility. Well I would have been fine with that too. If Cranberry can make a goof against Swim Swim and Tama, then I'm sure it would have been possible against Ripple and Snow White. Especially seeing that Cranberry probably views Snow White the same as Tama, very inferior. All in all it was interesting, I just hate how Swim Swim got off easy against her lol Not really possible. Clamberry NEEDS to die during this battle royale (she's actually the only one that 100% needs to die for the story to start) and SW's power doesn't have the ability to kill her at all contrary to Tama's ability. |
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EvianBubble said: Huh, that was unexpected ... so Cranberry figures out Swim's weakness, light and sound and how convenient, she can manipulate sound :P Too bad she gets too focused on her and forgets about Tama, who digs a hole into her body ... LOL that was unexpected! Unfortunately she also happens to see Swim's real identity, so she has to kill her in response. She ends up being the new "Master" huh ... interesting! With her new powers she should easily be able to kill Ripple though. Nice to see Ruler taking the time to go through stuff with Tama too lol, I guess she has a nice side to her. Ripple remembering Top Speed ... aww man :( Seems like she's going after Swim so they'll cut the remaining 3 down to 2 ... well obviously one of them will die, then what happens to Snow White? Not to mention we get a transformation sequence?! That was unexpected XD Oh and also the bit at the beginning - so Fav just kind of "accidentally" let a demon go wild at a Magical Girl examination ...? LOL, interesting XD she actually doesn't have to. It's only forbidden to have a normal person witness your transformations, not another magical girl or anyone already involved with the land of magic. SwimSwim here once again misinterpret and twist Ruler's word of advice (which was a good one : don't let anyone see you transform is indeed a good advice for many reasons) by resolving the problem by killing. SwimSwim has been doing that for a while now. if "there 's a problem, kill it". "I can become a princess/ruler". But problem, I can't as long as Ruler is here -> solves the problem by killing her. "I want to prove I surpassed ruler". But problem, Calamity Mary who was superior to Ruler doesn't come. Solution -> Kill Winterprison instead. In a general way, SwimSwim's response to any problem and any teaching from Ruler or Nemurin is "kill/assassinate". I see a lot of peoples saying that poor swimswim isn't at fault and that she got twisted by Ruler. That's kind of wrong, as she's the one twisting Ruler's teachings. Ruler never taught her to kill someone in any of those situations. The "if you can' t win fairly, don't play fair" was never supposed to be translated as "assassinate". |
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Zefyris said: qwertyMrJINX said: A transformation sequence? Nostalgic, but this late in the series? lol I never know what to expect in this damn show. You know, I really liked that Tama was the one to kill Cranberry, but I still call BS on that fight with La Pucelle. He chopped right through her neck. She doesn't have magical invulnerablility like Swim and Alice, that should've been the end of her. Hmm that wasn't the neck at all, that was her torso/stomach. And La pucelle's sword wasn't able to deeply cut, unfortunately. saw how she was blocking La pucelle's sword with her bare arms earlier? yeah, she's quite tanky. The amount of blood was very exaggerated too, I guess they wanted to make the viewer believe that La Pucelle actually won. Woodfall said: Well I would have been fine with that too. If Cranberry can make a goof against Swim Swim and Tama, then I'm sure it would have been possible against Ripple and Snow White. Especially seeing that Cranberry probably views Snow White the same as Tama, very inferior. All in all it was interesting, I just hate how Swim Swim got off easy against her lol Not really possible. Clamberry NEEDS to die during this battle royale (she's actually the only one that 100% needs to die for the story to start) and SW's power doesn't have the ability to kill her at all contrary to Tama's ability. I'm sure her lucky rabbit foot could have done something in that situation, had the writers so desired |
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Woodfall said: Zefyris said: Hmm that wasn't the neck at all, that was her torso/stomach. And La pucelle's sword wasn't able to deeply cut, unfortunately. saw how she was blocking La pucelle's sword with her bare arms earlier? yeah, she's quite tanky. The amount of blood was very exaggerated too, I guess they wanted to make the viewer believe that La Pucelle actually won. Not really possible. Clamberry NEEDS to die during this battle royale (she's actually the only one that 100% needs to die for the story to start) and SW's power doesn't have the ability to kill her at all contrary to Tama's ability. I'm sure her lucky rabbit foot could have done something in that situation, had the writers so desired Relying on something that give random luck to solve everything is an awful deus ex machina. + the rabbit foot isn't anything that powerful, to. |
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Zefyris said: Woodfall said: I'm sure her lucky rabbit foot could have done something in that situation, had the writers so desired Relying on something that give random luck to solve everything is an awful deus ex machina. + the rabbit foot isn't anything that powerful, to. That is kinda what it's there for... to give luck to its owner when he/she is in a pinch.... So if Snow White was in a pinch, I don't think the writers would forget about their convenient plot device that they put into the LN or anime in the first place lol. And idk about you but i think a fight with Cranberry MIGHT possibly be considered a pinch for Snow White who doesn't have anything but said rabbit foot to protect her. I also don't really see where you get off saying it isn't that powerful... It may be bad writing to use something like that, but that's what it is in the show for. |
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Woodfall said: Zefyris said: Relying on something that give random luck to solve everything is an awful deus ex machina. + the rabbit foot isn't anything that powerful, to. That is kinda what it's there for... to give luck to its owner when he/she is in a pinch.... So if Snow White was in a pinch, I don't think the writers would forget about their convenient plot device that they put into the LN or anime in the first place lol. And idk about you but i think a fight with Cranberry MIGHT possibly be considered a pinch for Snow White who doesn't have anything but said rabbit foot to protect her. I also don't really see where you get off saying it isn't that powerful... It may be bad writing to use something like that, but that's what it is in the show for. No. When you put that kind of thing, you need to avoid making that luck to impactful to save the day in the story or this is just a deus ex machina, and therefore not an interesting way to use it for the reader, like I said before. |
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Zefyris said: Woodfall said: That is kinda what it's there for... to give luck to its owner when he/she is in a pinch.... So if Snow White was in a pinch, I don't think the writers would forget about their convenient plot device that they put into the LN or anime in the first place lol. And idk about you but i think a fight with Cranberry MIGHT possibly be considered a pinch for Snow White who doesn't have anything but said rabbit foot to protect her. I also don't really see where you get off saying it isn't that powerful... It may be bad writing to use something like that, but that's what it is in the show for. No. When you put that kind of thing, you need to avoid making that luck to impactful to save the day in the story or this is just a deus ex machina, and therefore not an interesting way to use it for the reader, like I said before. You are making things up now lol. Idk what you are even trying to prove. That Tama was the only one who could defeat Cranberry? All I wanted was Cranberry to destroy Swim Swim, whether you say it was possible or inpossible doesn't matter. I'll stop discussing this now since ep 12 is out and I don't want to spoil anything on here |
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| damn that was early, more characters on the chopping block including Pon's Cranberry. Honestly since Swim's brainwashed from Ruler after revealing her age, can't really blame her. But still, on to see the last duel! |
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| Cranberry was very smart, she found out Swim Swim's weakness. But who would say that Tama would kill her just by a small touch? We got her power wrong... Swim Swim is the worst! She killed Tama!!! Fav is so evil! |
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| OMG! the slaughterfest continues! Who would have thought that the most useless Tama would be the one to kill the Overpowered Cranberry! Tama's hole ground digging is one of the most leathal ones. Too bad! But Damn! This is what I don't like! Tama getting her throat slit by Swim Swim! damn you bitch! I hope Ripple KILLS you in the most satisfying torturing way!!! I really didn't want the poor Tama to die. She's such a cutesy shy low self-esteem dog. Looks like Fav even has trouble dealing with new "Master" since Swim Swim wouldn't listen to Fav. Damn you Snow White Koyuki! Why are stopping Ripple on killing Swim Swim!?!? That the most right thing to do because she's the most collateral damage that has done to all other magical girls! Let Ripple KILL SwimSwim in order to avenge Top Speed! The preview was creepy, the chime sounds suddenly break! 5/5! |
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| So this episode showing a background interaction of the "dumb mutt" with Ruler. Shows Ruler isn't all that bad of a person, she has a nice side too. Kind of nice to know. |
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| please someone tear Swim Swim to pieces |
If you are going to disagree with me, don't bother talking to me. I will seriously hurt you! |
| Nearly all the people that Swim Swim killed didn't deserve to die dammit |
| I'm Bruneian and I like anime. And Manchester United. And fat cats. |
| Man WHAT THE FUCK Swim Swim. I'm looking forward to your death next episode you fucking hoe. |
| Just need to find out how to quote this every time so I can dodge the stupid 30-character limit. |
| I was wondering, Fav said it's down to 4 magical girl, but as far as I know, it only has three. Ripple, Swim Swim, and Snow White. is Fav counted as one too? --edited-- It down to 3 because of uneccessary kill (Tama). 1. Nemurin 2. Ruler 3. La Pucelle 4. Magicaroid 44 5. Yunaelle 6. Winterprison 7. Calamity Mary 8. Top Speed 9. Sister Nana 10. Alice 11. Minaelle 12. Cranberry 13. Tama |
AbyhapeJan 26, 2017 4:51 AM
| Cranberry shouldn't have hesitated. It sucks, that she was killed by the dumbest character. Swim Swim sure is ruthless. Ripple is ready for revenge and Fav reveals Swim's weakness, because she doesn't play by the rules. |
| You're a louse, Roger Smith. - R. Dorothy Wayneright This is my fight! No Senpai, this is our fight! - Kojou Akatsuki & Yukina Himeragi  |
| YES TAMA, YOU GOT CRANBERRY!!! Made a little scratch but that lead to a huge hole in her body like damn nice job Tama lol. I was super pleased when I thought Swim-Swim was defeated too (because she was untransformed), but then she turned out not to be dead and killed Tama because her identity was revealed??? WTF I was not expecting that o.o I was kinda indifferent towards Tama in the beginning, but after seeing her backstory I really felt for her :( GO RIPPLE YOU CAN BEAT SWIM-SWIM!!! Although it looks like light and sound only untransform her, then you have to kill her. Will Ripple be able to kill a small child? Wonder why we've only gotten transformation sequences for Snow White and Ripple. I think it would have been really cool to see all the other transformation sequences. |
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| Damn what impressive development, with some good portion of further drama, I now really do wonder what the last episode will have to offer! |
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| Rip Tama, right when she finally did something brave, she died. Idk if Ripple can win against Swim Swim, especially if the fight takes place at a dam. |
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| Are you kidding me… whats with this anime… Urgh… whatever… one more episode left, lets just get this torture out of the way. |
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| Can we get an F in the chat for Tama and Cranberry? |
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| Cranberry can only sit down after being blown apart by Tama. Finally, her madness has ended. Good riddance. although the death of Tama is very sad.. Swim does not know that she does not have to kill Tama. :=_=;: Ripple seems to be able to talk with Top Speed spirit, before she went to the afterlife. this final showdown is really not necessary. Ripple is like a soldier still trying to make war when peace is already achieved.. and Swim is not really a threat to civilians. |
Liddo-kunApr 21, 2021 7:56 AM
Hiii-chan said: Really incredible for me, how you can kill your own teammate and in that same day do homework >_< Not to mention that she daily kills people as a child and goes to school the next day x_x Best girl Swim is just being a responsible little girl. Killing people is not an excuse not to do homework! ;) |
| That transformation sequence was unexpected. Swim Swim is a psycho. |
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| PUPPY NOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| i feel so bad for the dog girl she died for some stupid bullshit ruler said off screen, swim swim is such a bitch at first i liked her, but now all her decisions seem to be made by some new ruler quote she decided to pull out of her ass |
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| Man, I'm a year late here (I say a year, but this anime's nearly 10 years old by now; I watched this episode for the first time exactly a year ago), but... Yeah, I think this is my favorite episode of the anime. As a novel-reader, I really appreciate the depth they added to best-girl Tama in the anime. Having her actually like Ruler is honestly a more interesting characterization than her total fear of Ruler in the novel, IMO. And, of-course, this is also the episode that adapts the resolution of the Cranberry battle and the delicious irony of the one who loves strong opponents being killed by the weakest girl in the cast, which is another plus! But having since read the novel, my main gripe with this episode (and with the anime as a whole, TBH) was only amplified more. The novel puts way more emphasis on magical girls keeping their identities secret from regular humans, and as early as the second chapter (which is the equivalent to episode 4 of the anime), we find-out that Ruler imposed a personal restriction on her followers showing each-other their true forms, due to her own complex about her human form. But here, the first we hear of Ruler's restriction is when Swim Swim brings it up after killing Tama. Don't get me wrong, I still think the anime is the best way to experience the series's first arc (even if basically every other novel-reader I've talked to disagrees), but... For all the extra scenes they added from Asari Endou's one-shot stories, and all the new scenes they added (such-as the backstory for the Angels and the extended backstories for Tama, Ripple, Hardgore Alice, Ruler and Calamity Mary), I am baffled that they cut Ruler originally bringing up that her followers aren't allowed to show each-other their human selves. It's, like, one sentence in the original book. Was it really that hard to squeeze it into the runtime? Oh, well, I'm sure Tama's sudden death was a lot less of a blow to people who didn't have her as their favorite character, LMAO. (And, yes, even having caught-up with the novels, she's still my favorite, lol.) I guess I'm just biased, since I honestly saw myself in her at times (mostly thanks to the new stuff the anime added for her, so I really can't stay mad at Lerche for too long. XD) |
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