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| Pff, even in Deens" F/SN , they kept the 2nd H-scene;/ |
sadfacelv said: Pff, even in Deens" F/SN , they kept the 2nd H-scene;/ They didn't AFAIR. It was still the H-alt. |
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fusionist said: Unrelated to this week's episode but it's still bothering me: Is there *any* sort of possible way to explain Archer being able to use UBW when they straight up said *in that episode* that he was out of mana? He commented on how even without mana he was too strong for Shirou. And then later he commented on how Shirou can't materialize any more blades because he is out of mana. But Archer can cast UBW and he materializes swords at some point. So I know this was already discussed to be a plot hole, but is it really this gigantic of a plot hole? Am I missing something? Because that's huge and makes no sense. My mind is desperately searching for a way to make sense of it. Get ready for the bullshit they're going to pull in those last few episodes, this is nothing. But Rin's tsundere outbursts were unpleasant (why adapt her into something so generic?) It was just as bad in the VN, but at least I could click fast to get over with it asap, while I had to cringe through the entire scene in the anime. |
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Riveon said: Guilek said: No, realta nua version of the vn. Realta nua version has dolphins? I didn't know that Nasu is just tsun for Deen and copy their ideas. Praise DEEN. Also as for the episode, just what I expected tbh. UFO kinda dicks for the huge bait at the start though, "CAN'T TELL YOU THE PLAN HERE"... insane blushing... literally the build up SCREAMED sex. Then boom dolphins GG UFO. And couldn't we have gotten the saber moments in this episode (seeing as how we basically just went over them again...) rather than in the middle of Archer vs Shirou. Good stuff: Shinji rescuing an episode again. The high jump scene was actually pretty awesome and doesn't need to be explained I think. |
fusionist said: Unrelated to this week's episode but it's still bothering me: Is there *any* sort of possible way to explain Archer being able to use UBW when they straight up said *in that episode* that he was out of mana? He commented on how even without mana he was too strong for Shirou. And then later he commented on how Shirou can't materialize any more blades because he is out of mana. But Archer can cast UBW and he materializes swords at some point. I am not sure but I think that was a mistranslation that should ment something along the lines of "he is leaking mana", I may be wrong though. |
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Riveon said: Guilek said: No, realta nua version of the vn. Realta nua version has dolphins? I didn't know that Nasu is just tsun for Deen and copy their ideas. RN predates DEENight. |
| "Servants can only enter through it's maingate." Why did Gilgamesh not kill Assassin then? |
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| im just wondering why you guys were expecting the actual h-scene they didnt even do dr gilgamesh right |
fairygood said: im just wondering why you guys were expecting the actual h-scene they didnt even do dr gilgamesh right People expected a fade to black. People are suckers. Ufotable has been a let down for EVERY. SINGLE. THING. IN. UBW. ADAPTATION. And yet we keep coming back hoping they will at least do this one thing somewhat correctly. And Ufo instead smacks us in the face with a newspaper and asks for a sandwich. |
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Hyack said: "Servants can only enter through it's maingate." Why did Gilgamesh not kill Assassin then? A) He is dead. b) he hide his presence. |
Hyack said: "Servants can only enter through it's maingate." Why did Gilgamesh not kill Assassin then? It will be made clear, hopefully. |
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fairygood said: im just wondering why you guys were expecting the actual h-scene they didnt even do dr gilgamesh right They did it right though. |
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Hyack said: "Servants can only enter through it's maingate." Why did Gilgamesh not kill Assassin then? Assassin class has presence concealment. Or he's dead. |
Hyack said: "Servants can only enter through it's maingate." If they have Independent Action they can probably take a detour. Gil's IA is the highest rank iirc. |
Grey-Zone said: fairygood said: im just wondering why you guys were expecting the actual h-scene they didnt even do dr gilgamesh right They did it right though. They didn't though. |
| so this is what the anime was building up to? wow i feel like i wasted my time i shoulda just watched fate zero and finish off this horrid franchise |
MetaSonic said: sadfacelv said: Pff, even in Deens" F/SN , they kept the 2nd H-scene;/ Inaccurate, they didn't keep the H-Scene. They kept the kiss. Well they kept the kiss, but next morning they woke up in the same room and Saber was fixing her clothes and said that she was fully charged or smth -_- They could at least do something like that;/ |
CookingPriest said: i really don't even mind it its not important this route. as long as their is at least applied h-scenes in heavens feel fairygood said: im just wondering why you guys were expecting the actual h-scene they didnt even do dr gilgamesh right People expected a fade to black. People are suckers. Ufotable has been a let down for EVERY. SINGLE. THING. IN. UBW. ADAPTATION. And yet we keep coming back hoping they will at least do this one thing somewhat correctly. And Ufo instead smacks us in the face with a newspaper and asks for a sandwich. i won't mind. |
CookingPriest said: fairygood said: im just wondering why you guys were expecting the actual h-scene they didnt even do dr gilgamesh right People expected a fade to black. People are suckers. Ufotable has been a let down for EVERY. SINGLE. THING. IN. UBW. ADAPTATION. And yet we keep coming back hoping they will at least do this one thing somewhat correctly. And Ufo instead smacks us in the face with a newspaper and asks for a sandwich. There's not even a point in listening to this guy, anymore. His complaints are so full of hyperbole that they can't be taken seriously. Every single thing? Really? You can make the argument that it's been hit or miss, but to argue that everything has been a miss is completely childish. But should we expect any different at this point? You're only interested in venting your disappointment. Who cares if it makes any actual sense - as long as you feel better by saying it. |
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Insertanamehere said: "Yes, I have an option between sex with the guy I fell in love with and am essentially in a relationship with and giving up centuries of my family's research and knowledge, the greatest inheritance handed down from my ancestors, and I'm too embarrassed about having sex so I'll give up a significant portion of my magecraft and power instead, even though I said all the 'it's my most important fight' stuff!"-Rin I mean really now You might as well disregard the existence of any sex-related solutions when it comes to the all ages approach. I mean, isn't that kinda obvious? Sure, it would be nice for them to get closer and have a little more romance. That makes a lot of sense given everything that happened. But one thing is for certain, that doesn't need to be motivated by someone's need for mana. Unfortunately, Nasu tied both things together in the novel and here as well. They still could have had a more romantic scene, so to speak, after everything was said and done. But they've already had quite a bit of non sexual development throughout the series anyway. Shintai said: Considering Nasu himself has made an effort to move away from sex scenes for years now, why the fuck are people so surprised that we didn't get one? Because it's a porn game! :P |
TrueKirei said: There's not even a point in listening to this guy, anymore. His complaints are so full of hyperbole that they can't be taken seriously. Every single thing? Really? You can make the argument that it's been hit or miss, but to argue that everything has been a miss is completely childish. But should we expect any different at this point? You're only interested in venting your disappointment. Who cares if it makes any actual sense - as long as you feel better by saying it. How can you even say that?! You know exactly that he is always "objectively right"! Like with Rin kicking Shirou in EP13. He said it happend, so it happened! You may not disagree! |
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fairygood said: CookingPriest said: i really don't even mind it its not important this route. as long as their is at least applied h-scenes in heavens feel People expected a fade to black. People are suckers. Ufotable has been a let down for EVERY. SINGLE. THING. IN. UBW. ADAPTATION. And yet we keep coming back hoping they will at least do this one thing somewhat correctly. And Ufo instead smacks us in the face with a newspaper and asks for a sandwich. i won't mind. the kiss is important for relationship. They could have fade to blacked instead of 4KIDS Channel Esque nonsense. The events in here should not have taken the whole episode anyway, or at least not the way they did. |
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| I don't know how it was in the VN but I personally thought seeing some of Rin's personal memories is better than some half-assed sex scene. |
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| Think there's any hope they will kiss in the finale? I mean, there's still 3 episode left and the last one is a double episode. |
| although I knew they were supposed to be dolphins, my first impression of them were that they looked like mutant sperm. anyway, I thought it was a good episode. |
| I need sleep. |
TrueKirei said: Who cares if it makes any actual sense - as long as you feel better by saying it. too bad it didn't FlamepriesT said: Insertanamehere said: "Yes, I have an option between sex with the guy I fell in love with and am essentially in a relationship with and giving up centuries of my family's research and knowledge, the greatest inheritance handed down from my ancestors, and I'm too embarrassed about having sex so I'll give up a significant portion of my magecraft and power instead, even though I said all the 'it's my most important fight' stuff!"-Rin I mean really now You might as well disregard the existence of any sex-related solutions when it comes to the all ages approach. I mean, isn't that kinda obvious? That's funny, because RN mentions it as an option. |
CookingPriest said: Yeah, this series is just not mature enough for us. the kiss is important for relationship. They could have fade to blacked instead of 4KIDS Channel Esque nonsense. The events in here should not have taken the whole episode anyway, or at least not the way they did. You should give F/Z a try. You might enjoy it. No childish high school setting, most characters aren't virgin, people have actual guns (who needs swords anyway?), everybody smokes, etc. Great stuff! |
FlamepriesT said: CookingPriest said: Yeah, this series is just not mature enough for us. the kiss is important for relationship. They could have fade to blacked instead of 4KIDS Channel Esque nonsense. The events in here should not have taken the whole episode anyway, or at least not the way they did. You should give F/Z a try. You might enjoy it. No childish high school setting, most characters aren't virgin, people have actual guns (who needs swords anyway?), everybody smokes, etc. Great stuff! Funny you should bring it up, because F/Z did have a cut-away sex scene. |
ProphecyPriest said: mira-nyan said: Best Girl will always be best :P Lala, stop. You remind me that there would never be Shielder route in every adaptation of F/sn anime T_T Mwahahahhahahahhahahahahahahhahahhahahahhahahahahhahaah |
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Insertanamehere said: Did it? I don't even remember that. Care to say when that happened in spoiler tags before we go back to the topic at hand? :PFlamepriesT said: Yeah, this series is just not mature enough for us. You should give F/Z a try. You might enjoy it. No childish high school setting, most characters aren't virgin, people have actual guns (who needs swords anyway?), everybody smokes, etc. Great stuff! Funny you should bring it up, because F/Z did have a cut-away sex scene. |
FlamepriesT said: Insertanamehere said: Did it? I don't even remember that. Care to say when that happened in spoiler tags before we go back to the topic at hand? :PFunny you should bring it up, because F/Z did have a cut-away sex scene. |
Insertanamehere said: FlamepriesT said: Did it? I don't even remember that. Care to say when that happened in spoiler tags before we go back to the topic at hand? :P We totally will in HF because "tr00 mature zer0 seagull" |
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CookingPriest said: I expect a lot of Rin's leg shots, Rin blushing and raging, as well as a lot of explosions and fireworks while animators fall asleep and forget to move the camera or do any sort of choreography. Insertanamehere said: Read Realta Nua h-alt version of the scene. Again. Explanation should be there. Or are you telling me that the ONLY times Ufo will stick to VN canon is when they should NOT? The high jumps scene was pretty clear as it was, I don't know what episode you watched. |
| Wtf was with the green dolphins. Very slow pace not much happened and another bad episode Rin's Tsunderness was annoying as well. I haven't read the visual novel so tbh I don't know why the fuck they need UBW so much as the only thing that it seems to do in the anime is waste mana, can someone tell me cause I fell it should be explained by now. I was expecting the transfer thing to be about sex tbh considering it's a porn game adaptation, i was at least expecting a kiss to happening but not even that. Boring episode. |
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Insertanamehere said: FlamepriesT said: Did it? I don't even remember that. Care to say when that happened in spoiler tags before we go back to the topic at hand? :P Is....is this legit? Wow, Kerry a playah. Don't listen to him, Shirou! |
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Royalirishman said: can someone tell me cause I fell it should be explained by now. Insertanamehere said: Swords inside UBW do not need to be projected and can just be summoned and controlled from within, and are stronger than regular protections, and it's caster is also stronger within it. |
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Royalirishman said: Wtf was with the green dolphins. Very slow pace not much happened and another bad episode Rin's Tsunderness was annoying as well. I haven't read the visual novel so tbh I don't know why the fuck they need UBW so much as the only thing that it seems to do in the anime is waste mana, can someone tell me cause I fell it should be explained by now. I was expecting the transfer thing to be about sex tbh considering it's a porn game adaptation, i was at least expecting a kiss to happening but not even that. Boring episode. Because if somehow Shirou can bring Gil into UBW he can counter Gate of Babylon. Gil, as we saw during his fight with Berserker, can summon dozens of weapons at one time form multiple angles. In UBW Shirou should be able to counter it as we saw Archer summon his weapons the last few episodes. And Archer said that it's up to Shirou now knowing that UBW is a good counter to GoB. Now the only question is how to get close enough to Gil.... |
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Insertanamehere said: FlamepriesT said: Did it? I don't even remember that. Care to say when that happened in spoiler tags before we go back to the topic at hand? :P That would have been good for the romance if they did it right, yeah. I couldn't care less about the mana transfer stuff though. But Shirou and Rin are pretty close, so I don't think anything is necessarily missing. It's pretty clear that they're in a relationship, even if it's an awkward one. To be honest, having sex right there without an excuse probably would have been a slightly unnatural development. Not that sex would have been necessary to show a little more bonding anyway, but then again their romance in F/SN doesn't really demand more than what we already have imo. Kinda subjective. |
| I can't believe there are people who really expected to see a sex scene in the TV series. |
CrimsonBlack said: I can't believe there are people who really expected to see a sex scene in the TV series. |
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FlamepriesT said: Insertanamehere said: That would have been good for the romance if they did it right, yeah. I couldn't care less about the mana transfer stuff though. But Shirou and Rin are pretty close, so I don't think anything is necessarily missing. It's pretty clear that they're in a relationship, even if it's an awkward one. To be honest, having sex right there without an excuse probably would have been a slightly unnatural development. Not that sex would have been necessary to show a little more bonding anyway, but then again their romance in F/SN doesn't really demand more than what we already have imo. Kinda subjective. Mfw my biggest problem with the scene isn't even romance but people keep talking about it. |
bobzanny said: Because if somehow Shirou can bring Gil into UBW he can counter Gate of Babylon. Gil, as we saw during his fight with Berserker, can summon dozens of weapons at one time form multiple angles. In UBW Shirou should be able to counter it as we saw Archer summon his weapons the last few episodes. And Archer said that it's up to Shirou now knowing that UBW is a good counter to GoB. Now the only question is how to get close enough to Gil.... Archer projects weapons in UBW just like he does outside of it (I'm checking the episodes right now, but I should be right). We have no idea about how UBW works, except if we use knowledge from the VN. |
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| man that OST was great.... that's all i have to say for this ep. everything there could have been done in half the time or less. also: Shintai said: Considering Nasu himself has made an effort to move away from sex scenes for years now, why the fuck are people so surprised that we didn't get one? |
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Insertanamehere said: Insertanamehere said: Swords inside UBW do not need to be projected and can just be summoned and controlled from within, and are stronger than regular protections, and it's caster is also stronger within it. Anime onlies were bound to ask that question if we consider how UBW was portrayed in this anime when Archer used it back in the church. |
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Lollo36 said: bobzanny said: Because if somehow Shirou can bring Gil into UBW he can counter Gate of Babylon. Gil, as we saw during his fight with Berserker, can summon dozens of weapons at one time form multiple angles. In UBW Shirou should be able to counter it as we saw Archer summon his weapons the last few episodes. And Archer said that it's up to Shirou now knowing that UBW is a good counter to GoB. Now the only question is how to get close enough to Gil.... Archer projects weapons in UBW just like he does outside of it (I'm checking the episodes right now, but I should be right). We have no idea about how UBW works, except if we use knowledge from the VN. But UBW serves a good purpose of limiting Gil from the outside world and I thought, I could be wrong, that the weapons basically came from UBW so summoning weapons while inside UBW would take less time. |
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| In fairness, the only reason I wanted the sex scene was to see the resulting ANN review. mira-nyan said: Insertanamehere said: Is....is this legit? Wow, Kerry a playah. Don't listen to him, Shirou! I don't know if it says they did the dirty there but they definitely have at other times. |
bobzanny said: Lollo36 said: Archer projects weapons in UBW just like he does outside of it (I'm checking the episodes right now, but I should be right). We have no idea about how UBW works, except if we use knowledge from the VN. But UBW serves a good purpose of limiting Gil from the outside world and I thought, I could be wrong, that the weapons basically came from UBW so summoning weapons while inside UBW would take less time. The bolded part is from the VN, there's no difference between the projecting/summoning time in the anime, and there's no hint about it in the dialogue. The part about restricting Gil to UBW isn't even mentioned in the episode, even though they spend at least 5 minutes formulating strategies. |
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