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Oct 8, 2009 11:15 AM

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LOL, that means Werchiel and Oosran are weirdos? I like where this is going 8-)



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Oct 8, 2009 11:48 AM

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BitchMaster said:
LOL, that means Werchiel and Oosran are weirdos? I like where this is going 8-)

No everyone else is weird for not liking him : D
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Oct 8, 2009 12:31 PM

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Speaking of weird, I expected Mentar to comment by now. I honestly was looking forward to his thoughts since this was an ending that wasn't in the VN apparently.
Oct 8, 2009 1:02 PM

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it looks like the end was incomplete so i think that it will be another season coming and i hope so!
Oct 8, 2009 2:16 PM

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noteDhero said:
Speaking of weird, I expected Mentar to comment by now. I honestly was looking forward to his thoughts since this was an ending that wasn't in the VN apparently.


So, while waiting for Sir. Mentar to arrive, lemme be your interviewer: "Yo noteDhero, what are your thoughts about the ending? Are you satisfied now that your curse actually came true? How do you feel right now? What are you eating right now?"

PS: And please don't curse me since it might actually come true. If you want to, wait til somebody made me a sandwich, 'kay? ;)



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Oct 8, 2009 3:24 PM

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I feel like I won the lottery.
Actually, I don't know that I'm satisfied, but it's an ending.
I am eating a bear claw and a caesar salad.

And finally: lol.
Oct 8, 2009 4:39 PM

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Could have been perfect, BUT THAT ENDING AAAGGHHHH.
Oct 8, 2009 7:05 PM

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g0ldfi5h said:
But for who shot Reiji?
It can be anyone. Even the grass or tree's. Elen?
Idk. Anyone.


So is Mongolia actually the land of Oz? /bad joke.

...Even though I could see those guns upgrading from apples to Guns.

noteDhero said:
Speaking of weird, I expected Mentar to comment by now. I honestly was looking forward to his thoughts since this was an ending that wasn't in the VN apparently.


He's commented over at animesuki, if you wanna take a look.
Oct 8, 2009 7:34 PM

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Thanks Orihime. I read it, it was about what I expected, but with less fervency and detail.
Oct 8, 2009 9:18 PM

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Whatever elen fans let's just face it
She died=/ Reiji died cal died.
GAY ENDING


lol so true in a way. and a shitty ending bigtime. but hey no need to be sad. its not like the Phantoms die. we all seen how many bullets can pierce trough their body and they somehow miracly survive it. so Reijin just taking a little break and everything will be good !

Cal probably just goes to hospital and be fine aswell and everyone be happy.

but gotta say the ending sucked bigtime tho. best with last episode was that Scythe died. even tho he should had died way before.

oh SM deserved to be thrown in an ocean full of sharks. But eren gave him a less painful way of dying. BOOM Headshot and that was the end of that bitch :(
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Oct 9, 2009 10:06 AM

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Oh my god... i didn't expect an ending like that :O
This anime was awesome, i didn't want it to end T_T and... like that ç_ç
Oct 10, 2009 2:56 AM

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Sorta different battle sequence... but the epilogue was boring...
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Oct 12, 2009 8:37 AM

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WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?

WHO WAS THE FUCKING IDIOT WHO SHOT REIJI IN THE BACK? YOU BACKSTABBER YOU.

Wait, so Elen died aswell? DIED FROM FLOWER POISONING, LOL? How come she didn't hear the gunshot? How come her face emotions didn't show anything after Reiji died?

Wow, just wow. Why you gotta kill the main character in last 2 minutes of the episode? Wowowowow.
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Oct 12, 2009 12:55 PM

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was the carriage driver Shiga?
Oct 12, 2009 3:00 PM

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Watched this show in one go. All in all I enjoyed it a lot! :]
But:

^This! I can think of many ways to do it better (at least from my point of view)!

Good Explanation for what was shown in the last minute of the last episode:

That makes sense. But still, Im not satisfied with it! It doesnt feel as "completed" as it should have.

But overall a very entertaining series: 9/10


noteDhero said:

SM's name of Helmut von Giuseppe is pretty dumb. I'm not familiar with every German or Italian surname, but "von Giuseppe"? Is that even possible? Maybe it's yet another fake name, but I doubt it.

"Helmut" is common as a german first name. But "von Giuseppe" sounds pretty fantastic... although I wouldnt bet my life on it. ;)
Oct 12, 2009 3:07 PM

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I know "Helmut" is a common German name, and "von" is a German preposition, but Giuseppe is (in my experience) a very common Italian name. Hence why putting them together as "von Giuseppe" as a German surname is bizarre.
Oct 12, 2009 3:16 PM

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How would Reiji fucking die from a gun with a silencer that shot him ONE time.

Sycthe master freaking shot him several times and he even fell into the ocean,and he still survived.

But NOO, He just have to die because of freaking one bullet in the end.
What happened to his "Natural born survival instincts"? He didn't freaking sense the danger behind him? PATHETIC.

It's all conspiracy. Reiji is alive.
Oct 12, 2009 3:38 PM

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noteDhero said:
I know "Helmut" is a common German name, and "von" is a German preposition, but Giuseppe is (in my experience) a very common Italian name. Hence why putting them together as "von Giuseppe" as a German surname is bizarre.

I have a theory:
In Sweden people have surnames like "Svenson" because the person in question was the son of a man called "Sven". So maybe the surname "von Guiseppe" is a hint that the father of SM was Italian and called Guiseppe.
Oct 12, 2009 3:40 PM

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I think you're thinking too hard. This is a show that has totally messed up foreign cultures. It's just a dumb thing they did. Not to mention that if it were his father, he would have taken the Italian last name completely and not done some strange Gertalian.
Oct 12, 2009 3:47 PM

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@noteDhero
Well, we are talking about anime. Messing up cultures, names, history, physics, sexuality etc. seems to be a very important stylistic device for japanese artists. :P
Oct 12, 2009 3:52 PM

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I've just been pretty good at avoiding those kinds of shows for a while now. Especially in a year that I've gotten Eden of the East, this stands to be one of the biggest misuse in recent memory.
Oct 12, 2009 9:41 PM

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Mongolia pamplet picture i found in episode 4. The nightshade flower is in it too.
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Oct 13, 2009 9:38 PM
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I actually didn't hear the bullet, nor watch the episode to the end, since I usually don't watch the OP/ED's... now I regret reading the discussion forums. Either way, dead or not, they're both satisfied so I guess its fine. What would they have done afterwards anyway? Became farmers?
Oct 14, 2009 9:01 AM

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Become Phillips screwdrivers.

Or...

Become one with each other..... Kyaaaaaaa....a?



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Or die. ...wait, they did
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Oct 14, 2009 10:54 AM

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Great anime, great last episode, but the very last moments frustrated me...

Get shot from behind when everything is supposed to be done? Oh...I hate when that happens...
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Oct 16, 2009 12:29 PM

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Im irritated. I just kinda wished my computer shut down and blew up right at that instant.... Why did Reji have to die? As if killing Cal wasnt enough???

Im just gonna go ahead and live in denial. IDK about you ppls but after rejis apt blew up im pretttty sure he went and killed everyone in inferno and lived happily ever after with Cal and Elen.
Oct 18, 2009 2:39 AM

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kerobear said:
Mongolia pamplet picture i found in episode 4. The nightshade flower is in it too.


Nice find! But those aren't nightshade flowers. These are purple nightshade flowers:

Oct 18, 2009 5:25 AM

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I don't think that the species of the flower really matter. They might've made up a poisonous flower out of the air...

Also, I know two flowers that are poisonous, which exist in Mongolia:
Delphinium and Rhododendron, though the prior usually (only usually) possess long stems and makes you vomit when you consume them, the latter is only lethal for horses. As a side note, the petals of delphinium are very poisonous.

But as I said, I don't think the species are important.
Oct 18, 2009 5:06 PM

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The whole second half of this series was far too predictable for me. From the moment the OP changed and they returned to Japan it all went downhill. The cliche ending simply cemented it for me. The Super-Awesome-Drones are actually worthless? Check. Main villain finally bites the big one, and at the hands of his apprentice no less? Check. One of the two main characters dies in the final peaceful scene? Check. Overused plot devices, the lot of 'em.

And from where I stand, Elen was alive at the end. The writers thought we were too stupid to get it from the sound effect alone that Reiji received a fatal wound, so they decided to show the casing just to make sure we got the picture. Erg. Lame.

For what it's worth, I really enjoyed the first half.
Oct 18, 2009 7:42 PM

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I thought Elen was still alive till I checked the ending again. So everyone died in the end. It's not that surprising though a little sad. Remember the title has requiem for the phantom in it. Phantom was still enjoyable and different for the most part.
Oct 18, 2009 8:18 PM
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Greatly disappointed with the ending. I loathe that type of ending....it was going so well too.
Oct 18, 2009 8:23 PM

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akai-kitsune said:
I don't think that the species of the flower really matter. They might've made up a poisonous flower out of the air...

Also, I know two flowers that are poisonous, which exist in Mongolia:
Delphinium and Rhododendron, though the prior usually (only usually) possess long stems and makes you vomit when you consume them, the latter is only lethal for horses. As a side note, the petals of delphinium are very poisonous.

But as I said, I don't think the species are important.


For the 100th time (okay, I am Exaggerating XD) These are the flowers Elen was looking at:



Geraniums. A very common flower in Mongolia according to my parent's gardener.

Moreover, it's just common knowledge that 1 single, lone, flower petal can kill that quickly. I don't care how tough Elen appears, she would have been sicker than a dog and not smiling. The most I can give to the “one flower petal” theory is maybe she was hallucinating after she ingested it XD
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LadyOrihime said:
akai-kitsune said:
I don't think that the species of the flower really matter. They might've made up a poisonous flower out of the air...

Also, I know two flowers that are poisonous, which exist in Mongolia:
Delphinium and Rhododendron, though the prior usually (only usually) possess long stems and makes you vomit when you consume them, the latter is only lethal for horses. As a side note, the petals of delphinium are very poisonous.

But as I said, I don't think the species are important.


For the 100th time (okay, I am Exaggerating XD) These are the flowers Elen was looking at:



Geraniums. A very common flower in Mongolia according to my parent's gardener.

Moreover, it's just common knowledge that 1 single, lone, flower petal can kill that quickly. I don't care how tough Elen appears, she would have been sicker than a dog and not smiling. The most I can give to the “one flower petal” theory is maybe she was hallucinating after she ingested it XD



Why wasting your time typing too much when you could send the non-believers your handmade geranium sushis that I taught you as proofs? I am sure that they will believe you when they've reach their life's last second and start seeing Scythe Master in the nude dancing tango...



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Oct 19, 2009 7:46 AM

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LadyOrihime said:
akai-kitsune said:
I don't think that the species of the flower really matter. They might've made up a poisonous flower out of the air...

Also, I know two flowers that are poisonous, which exist in Mongolia:
Delphinium and Rhododendron, though the prior usually (only usually) possess long stems and makes you vomit when you consume them, the latter is only lethal for horses. As a side note, the petals of delphinium are very poisonous.

But as I said, I don't think the species are important.


For the 100th time (okay, I am Exaggerating XD) These are the flowers Elen was looking at:



Geraniums. A very common flower in Mongolia according to my parent's gardener.

Moreover, it's just common knowledge that 1 single, lone, flower petal can kill that quickly. I don't care how tough Elen appears, she would have been sicker than a dog and not smiling. The most I can give to the “one flower petal” theory is maybe she was hallucinating after she ingested it XD

lol I only read the first two pages and some of the last page of the thread so sorry about that. I don't think that Elen ate a petal and then died anyways.XD
I was only giving possibilities for those who said that.
Oct 19, 2009 5:25 PM

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Elen just looked weird, so I figured she was dead . Eyes wide open and semi-smiling doesn't seem normal to me.
Oct 23, 2009 1:46 AM

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In my opinion, this is exactly how the show should end.

Zwei and Ein, as much as we love them, have killed far too many people for inferno. They left inferno, their fate is sealed.

It's only a matter of time before inferno find them. They're lucky to survive this long.

I think Ein is mentally damaged after she shot SM. After shooting SM, she lost her only excuse/escape for all her killings. The guilt piles up and probably have broke her completely. Her energy is ridiculously low during the final few minutes of the show.

9/10 for this amazing show ^_^
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Oct 23, 2009 8:48 AM
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I was going to rate the anime 9 and then it made me so sad to see them die. I guess it was inevitable ... but still too sad now :(
Oct 23, 2009 6:04 PM

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nu said:
I was going to rate the anime 9 and then it made me so sad to see them die. I guess it was inevitable ... but still too sad now :(


Huh? Why are you sad? It was a happy ending, isn't it? With Reiji convinced that he helped Ein til the end and died as a happy man while Ein go hump her harem, which consisted of the 4 remaining bishies, as shown through the symbol of the flower ( 1 petal fell=Reiji, 4 other petals= 4 other bishies, including Raymond). Everybody was happy, just re-watch the ep to see Ein's "just as planned" smile when she saw Reiji got shot and you will know what I mean....;)



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Oct 23, 2009 8:26 PM

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Well the ending was okay, a lil sad that he dies. Why the gay f*ck McGuire does not die??
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LadyOrihime said:
akai-kitsune said:
I don't think that the species of the flower really matter. They might've made up a poisonous flower out of the air...

Also, I know two flowers that are poisonous, which exist in Mongolia:
Delphinium and Rhododendron, though the prior usually (only usually) possess long stems and makes you vomit when you consume them, the latter is only lethal for horses. As a side note, the petals of delphinium are very poisonous.

But as I said, I don't think the species are important.


For the 100th time (okay, I am Exaggerating XD) These are the flowers Elen was looking at:



Geraniums. A very common flower in Mongolia according to my parent's gardener.

Moreover, it's just common knowledge that 1 single, lone, flower petal can kill that quickly. I don't care how tough Elen appears, she would have been sicker than a dog and not smiling. The most I can give to the “one flower petal” theory is maybe she was hallucinating after she ingested it XD

Nice find:P
T_T but either way, i don't think the flower killed elen.=[ Im still not convinced that she ate it touched it and got poisoned or whatever -.-.
She couldve shot herself or something.><! or the assasin killed her also.
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Oct 24, 2009 9:38 PM

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Good show! I've been waiting for Scythe master to get blasted in the face for a looong time. I haven't hated a character this much in a while. I mean he's just such a despicable villain.
Oct 25, 2009 9:10 AM
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Just watched last episode...The end is just awesome but not because this over is like we watched, but because it's not schematic like many of movies we watch every day.
Oct 27, 2009 2:29 PM

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I am dissapointed. I was ready for Reiji and/or Elen getting killed at the end, but not in such a stupid and random way... They didn't deserve to live, for all those lives they took, but they deserved at least a good ending and a choice of their deaths. Well Elen supposedly is still alive, but Reiji died in such stupid manner that i can't just forgive it... i mean - it's to friggin random, if you look at it this way - Inferno somehow tracked them down all the way to mongolian's middle of nowhere plains and send an assassin riding on a carriage pretending to be a mongolian native(?) to kill Reiji alone and leave Elen alone... it just doesn't make any sense to me. :/

^ My thoughts exactly. :s
Oct 28, 2009 6:06 PM

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I knew they'll die in the end but not like that. :/
Oh btw have they ever kissed ? LoL.
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That just made me depressed. F*ck you beetrain.
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Oct 30, 2009 7:29 AM
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reiji got smoked behind by the carriage assasin and ein turns around to find him dead and finds nothing to live for eats the poisonous flower and kills herself the end
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Lelouch killed Reiji.
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Lelouch killed Reiji.

I lol'd
That's clearly the best interpretation so far.
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