Guilty Crown Episode 10 Discussion

AmberFebruary said:

yep, this show is so bad, noitamina totally failed with this one, UN-GO's much worth the effort

Firestalker5 said:
Wow.... The hate for Shu is impressive!

I just can't hate a character [fully]. Shu may run away, but I would have probably done the same thing when I was his age and put in that situation.

You just can't tell what you would do when in that situation...

Bloodfox1222 said:


How can you feel bad to him? Its not like he is in a hard situation. He just needs to man up and then it should be a peice of cake to beat the bad guys.

onedaysnotice said:
I really think....this show hit a whole new low....

1/5

I was cringing this entire episode. I srsly cannot fathom Shu's pussiness and his mental outbursts, nor come to any logical motives that the blindfolded guy/scarface has for wiping out an entire city of innocent people. Recreate Lost Christmas?... give me a break....

If they don't give a good reason by next ep, I'm dropping this.

At least there was a silver lining to this episode...by the way it is progressing, it looks like Shu's gonna have to assume Gai's leadership very soon, as Gai either dies in the aeroplane, or will die soon from his apparent sickness. At least, we know that Shu's gonna have to grow a pair, even if he is forced to, sooner or later.



My sentiments exactly. I srsly spent a minute looking for where I put ep 9, because I srsly thought I missed an episode. Terrible directing, terrible characters. This is even more frustrating than Ninja Gaiden on mentor+, and doesn't even come close to being rewarding.

DraconisMarch said:
Because if Shu had nuts, the show would've been over 4 episodes ago. GHQ would be fucked in no time.

GodlyKyon said:


The directors switch every episode I believe. Not a very good idea -_- and the one who did ep 1&9 was the last one.

Firestalker5 said:


Let me start by saying... no none of those. I didn't watch the episode, I haven't watched since the 5th episode. I was commenting on the fact that everyone was complaining about him having no balls and running away. The situation I was mentioning is the one he's been in since the beginning. It's pretty crazy the way his life has changed, not sure I could handle it any better.

I personally think that running away from something is not a weakness... When you're running away because it's an impossible situation it's called retreating. Retreating is a valid strategy in any battle, staying to die and getting nothing to show for it is just stupidity personified.

Retreat from a situation and thinking about options is a great way to deal with things. If you're overwhelmed and frustrated, or just completely stressed out by everything around you, sometimes a change is the perfect medication. Retreating [running away] to a place that makes you feel calmer or more relaxed, or just getting away from the frustrations and stress, is the best way to think calmly about things.

Shu will think about everything regardless whether he wants to or not. Humans are like that, put into crazy and strange situations they will think about it and dwell on them even after they leave them. Staying in a situation that is stressful is only going to make it harder and harder to focus on things that need to be focused on. You start thinking and thinking and eventually you won't be able to function like you should. It's hard to think about a situation when you're smack-dab in the middle of it. Getting away and viewing the situation from the outside is the best way to see the situation from all angles and making a better decision about where it is you need to be.

Suffering because you killed someone is not a valid reason to stay in the situation. He will always be suffering for that, but being surriounded by it will only make him suffer more and eventually [if he's like me and many other people] he's collapse under is own guilty and become completely useless. At least with a change of pace and retreating, Shu can eventually figure out how to deal with the guilt and be able to come back a changed person, a better person in the long run. He might even be able to decide to stay and fight.

Retreating is actually a cliche of story-telling... the Main Character runs into a rut and "runs away" only to figure out what he really needs and wants. He comes back stronger, more resolute, and a different person all together. I can name quite a few series that use this technique to make the character grow.

Onii said:
Shoe ran too early, now his sole is torn.

onedaysnotice said:


Now I understand why GC is a clusterf*ck of ideas... Because of that, they have no consensus in direction, and because of that, they cannot properly follow up on an episode (point in case the transition from ep 9 to 10). [EDIT: I just realised you said the director for ep 9 was also the director for 10....Well that is...rather suprising...Did he get complacent after ep 1, or was ep 1 just a fluke? :S HOW could he NOT have seen that the transition between the episodes was so terrible??] This entire notion of having multiple directors, while I can somewhat see what they're trying to achieve, is stupid. Just stupid. It would've been better to put the money they used on all the excess directors on the story department as a whole....

DraconisMarch said:
Because if Shu had nuts, the show would've been over 4 episodes ago. GHQ would be fucked in no time.

Naxrrhid said:
This was by far one if not the worst episode of this series...., it was so painful to watch!!!! omfg can Shu be any more of a total fail, just how much of a pussy can you be??? are the writers of this series just trolling us with a pathetic weak annoying irritating MC for spite???? for the life of me i cant understand why i haven't dropped it yet..., im just hoping like a fool every week, that it becomes better, but....., damn!!!!!

1/10

AidanAK47 said:
Yeah. Killing someone would really mess you up. Not sure if it would equal hallucinations but....wait a tick. Didn't he kill a large number of soliders in the second episode? I mean I know he reflected their attack but he still killed them. Oh...I see. It's because they were not Japanese wasn't it?

Shu is a frigging racist.

AidanAK47 said:
Yeah. Killing someone would really mess you up. Not sure if it would equal hallucinations but....wait a tick. Didn't he kill a large number of soliders in the second episode? I mean I know he reflected their attack but he still killed them. Oh...I see. It's because they were not Japanese wasn't it?

Shu is a frigging racist.

thekiller99 said:


I totally agree the series would've been a bomb. I don't think it's realistic for a character who is kinda anti-social(explained in the first episode) to be a cocky kind of guy after acquiring some power.

What a great episode! I really feel like this episode is the turning point of the series.
I reckon Gai is going to die which will be an opportunity for Shu to step up(like tengen toppa). I can really understand why shu would be scared because anyone would after killing someone. The people who keep saying he has no balls can't really judge him because they weren't put in the same shoes and experience the killing.
Its great that inori is discovering her emotions which reinforces the theory that should might be some kind of clone.
I also hated the part where shu took advantage of Hare which made me hate him for the first time and also destroying Inori's gift without even running after her and apologising. That was a lack of common sense and not very gentlemen.

AidanAK47 said:
Yeah. Killing someone would really mess you up. Not sure if it would equal hallucinations but....wait a tick. Didn't he kill a large number of soliders in the second episode? I mean I know he reflected their attack but he still killed them. Oh...I see. It's because they were not Japanese wasn't it?

Shu is a frigging racist.

Articman said:


There is a rumor that the creaters of Guilty Crown, actually intend to make Shu into the Shinji Ikari of our generation. God, I hope not.

The Shu of this episode, was far worse, then Shu was at the begining of the series. In episode 1, he had enough guts to take funell to Gai. To run towards danger, to protect Inori. In the many missions that Shu took part of, he never once ran away screaming. Yet, when he does in episode 10, Gai, Inori and the rest of Furneral Parlour, thinks it's just cowardice on Shu's part. As does many of the viewers, Shu Haters.

Shu is really screwed up, right now and only Hare seems to be aware of it.

Drazard said:
I have a feeling Shu will pull a void out of himself if he could...

Anyway, epic episode, still some questions about the "woman" Gai was referring to.

GodlyKyon said:


It'll be the most depressing weapon ever.

MyFriendSam said:
Okay, can someone please explain to me how exactly Inori came to have feelings for Shu? What interactions have they had so far that warrant such feelings? So shu doesn't come home for a day or two and suddenly she really cares about him? This episode rushed through far too many plot developments. If they really wanted Shu to seem like he was going through a rough time, why not devote an entire episode solely to him? He lacks serious character development as it is, and it might make his character more appealing. 6/10

GodlyKyon said:


It'll be the most depressing weapon ever.

OrangeHollow said:
Why Gai didn't shoot Shu! What a great opportunity to make this series actually good is wasted.

thekiller99 said:


Lol this is the kind of idiocy that we don't need in a discussion. Please use 2 halves of your brain before you post something that's rhetorical.

thekiller99 said:


Lol this is the kind of idiocy that we don't need in a discussion. Please use 2 halves of your brain before you post something that's rhetorical.

thekiller99 said:
Please use 2 halves of your brain

thekiller99 said:
2 halves of your brain

DraconisMarch said:
It'll be something that helps him run faster. The other way, that is.

Or it'll just stamp the word "pussy" on his forehead.

thekiller99 said:


Lol this is the kind of idiocy that we don't need in a discussion. Please use 2 halves of your brain before you post something that's rhetorical.

Naxrrhid said:


This was beyond the perfect answer to his void!!!!! i laughed so hard!!!!! thanks for tht.



Whats wrong with wanting the reason this anime is failing to be killed painfully so we can laugh and finally feel good about this anime???? killing pussies in anime? you sir have my vote! Gai should've wasted that ***.

fireman3521 said:
IMO, what makes Shu a bad character is how poorly his character development is shown. Seriously, they ruined shu's character so much in that Episode. His reactions were not believable or justified, especially when he sees Inori.

Anyway, it was a big Letdown for me on Shu's character.
However, the second half gave me hope that it could still saved. Especially now that the episodic content seems to be over and the story is progressing.

octal9 said:
if any normal human went through what shu went through the might definitely have post traumatic stress syndrome - ever hear of it??? look it up!

Karhu said:

It's more about the execution than human psychology. Quality - ever heard of it?

octal9 said:

i was actually fairly unimpressed (it was so-so) with this show for the first four episodes, but since then i think this show has definitely shown quality (yes, i've heard of it!) - good plot, great characters, and amazing animation - people in general seem way too hung up on wanting every anime character (especially males) to be some kind of hero/he-man type - many of us anime/manga fans actually enjoy real characters who react like real people!!!

good plot

great characters

amazing animation