Shingeki no Kyojin: The Final Season Episode 5 Discussion

keragamming said:
Based off the discussion going on you would think they rating for this episode is bad, but when looking at it you realize the majority loved this episode.

Goes to show you how the vocal minority can shout louder than the majority to make it seems like everyone didn't like this episode.

yaegerist-15 said:
the funny thing is, people complained back then about 2volt being unsuitable for levi vs beast titan fight lol

TomTomestos said:


The manga readers did, just like this episode. Anime-onlies didn't care that much. Even then, that episode is still rated 10 on IMDB so it shows that the content itself is superior compared to the directing (which was phenomenal on both episodes 54 and 64 by the way, just not perfect)

Omertaskaya said:
How was the pacing ? Cutting ? And are there any original scene ?

DomineLkira said:
The OST at the end could have been better. Someone edited the last scene and replaced it with a fan made remix of the S4 trailer and it sounds so much better.
But what we got was good tho. I guess that is what happens when you read the manga first. You read it and develop some huge expectations and get disappointed when it doesn't play out exactly as you thought it would.

https://streamable.com/4jagln

Here is that edit I was talking about.

armchair3 said:
https://www.reddit.com/r/titanfolk/comments/kugyrh/lack_of_ost_was_disappointing_so_i_added_the/
Watch this, and tell me, how is todays ending ost any good

TomTomestos said:


-the scene between kiyomi and willy takes place a bit eariler, right after the OP
-the scene with willy and magath in the carriage is not in this episode, but I think it will be in the sixth one (i hope at least)
-the pit where pieck and porco fall doesn't have the toy anymore
-maybe some dialogue were removed but i don't know 100% since I don't know japanese at all, but while i was reading the panels while watching the episode at the same time it felt like some lines were removed, although not crucial ones
-right before eren's transforming, marley soldiers are trying to break the door from the basement (anime original)


other than that, this was by far the most faithful episode to the manga

Alpha_Druid said:

Omg this fits absolutely perfectly. Sad they didn't use it in the actual episode.

keragamming said:


Oh god, I'm glad they avoided using that, in an alternate world where that was used, they would be bitching that "They are using the final season trailer ost way too much! lazy Mappa, redundant Mappa, no creativity etc"

They have already been bitching about it, so lose, lose situation for Mappa either way.

I_Am_Freeballing said:
You'll get the new OST used somewhere else y'all. It's not like they trashed it. We don't know what they planned it for so stop using your headcanon music choices to blame the one used in the show!

chiearlymorning said:
Sound director looooooves using 2volt!

i guess this episode really won't break the internet. Whole episode had amazing build up music, amazing suspense, and then.. throwaway hype track.

one of the most unmemorable scenes ever.

SethBigBoss said:


We don't care if the new ost is going to be used somewhere else, that scene is one of the most impactful in the manga and the anime didn't do it justice, that's all

TomTomestos said:
While 2Volt wasn't necessarily the most fitting one for the last scene, it still was far from bad. Didn't Levi vs Beast Titan get the same OST too? And even then the anime onlies still loved it to death. Other than that, VERY GREAT EPISODE, the directing, the tension, the OST overall ( I loved the new theme that had Attack on Titan(the OST)'s melody. But if I had to praise a part about it the most, then it' s the voice acting, especially Reiner, his breakdown was way better portrayed than I ever imagined

chiearlymorning said:

[b]see, if they haven't spammed this ost track on TALKING scenes like episode 3, maybe people wouldn't get so bored of it. This moment was the perfect chance to use this track, but they blew it. It's hard to grasp that this is the same sound director that worked on such eargasm masterpieces like season 2 episode 6 "warrior" or episode 12 "scream". It is what it is I guess.

skipper56100 said:
That is incredible how manichean people are on this thread. I barely see any comments with somewhat some positives and negatives on the episode. Majority are only : "IT SUCKS, MAPPA IS SHIT" or "AMAZING ! MAPPA GOAT".

Alpha_Druid said:


That ost didn't work for that scene nor did it work for this scene. It's a mediocre ost. Should never be used for such epic moments, but oh well.

You're being disingenuous by implying that people didn't care about the ost because they loved the scene. People certainly did care about the ost. However, the scene was saved by the epic build up; Erwin's legendary speech, the final charge and Levi being a titan-slaying hype machine avenging his fallen comrades. Then there was the great animation which we all knew and loved which effectively showed the disparity between Levi and Zeke. This emotional rollercoaster is what held the scene together despite not having a remarkable ost. The same however, absolutely cannot be said for this episode.

TomTomestos said:



The same could be said in this episode. The buildup of it, which consists in Willy's speech, which ends by him declaring the war, the pure tension in the dialogue between Reiner and Eren, which results in Eren transforming into the Attack Titan, while the soldiers are trying to break the door from the basement (great addition by the way) makes this scene way more than great overall, and also the pure badassness of Eren destroying the building and eating Willy just works very well. I don't know when you began reading the manga, but if you did after Season 3 Part 2, it makes sense why you think S3E17 is a masterpiece (or close to it) while S4E5 is very far from it.

armchair3 said:
I honestly do not like the ending scene. As a manga reader, I'm suggesting to anime-online to see the fananimations for chapter 100.
7/10

tirthasg said:
Horrible animation mess. 5/10 at best. Animated panels of the manga on YouTube are so much better than whatever the MAPPA staff decided to throw at this episode.

DrkSeid69 said:
Oh my god... AOT fanbase's toxicity is way too much. They literally complain everything.

void_05 said:
Someone please give Reiner’s VA an award :o