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Annie_Law said: I've always wondered why there isn't an op Can you imagine an standard anime opening for this? For me makes no difference because I never watch OPs, and this gives the episodes an extra 1 minute and 20 seconds. |
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| Rikuo is doing well on his job, I am glad things are working for him. I wonder if he really loves Shinako or if he is already in love with Hary but didn't notice it |
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| Haru should find someone who will truly love her. While Shinako... really don't care about her. |
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puruprendo said: Holy shit, I'll already tell you that I absolutely despise this 'the show isn't for you' argument. You hate it, but it is what it is. It's just easier to drop this show and move on in your life than to complain about stuff about which flew over your head. While I agree, the anime has its own flaws, but that's not the anime's fault but your own. But sure, I'll entertain you and take some time, even if it seems like a bit of a waste. While it seems like the anime is slowing down because of Shinako's indecisiveness, it is only a baseless assumption that the author is deliberately doing this in order to pad out her manga. If it is indeed so, management, bureaucracies and directors could have noticed this and shaved it down; there is no sense of allocating precious manpower and resource into episodes which basically repeat itself. The current trend of anime adaptions nowadays are bare minimums, directors generously cut content at the sight of scenes that are unconducive to the story. So, I wholly disagree with the assumption that the episodes that we have on Shinako is just there to drag it out unless there is proof that it is so. Until then, it is only a baseless assumption and not a valid critique to the anime. puruprendo said: How it isn't the core of the anime? Literally everything every character in this show minus one does is in the service of the romance. What do we know about Shinako expect she loves Rou's dead brother? And Rou, what did he say other than everything I've, this school path included, was to fuck Shinako? Did they bother with Haru's backstory or the only thing she's doing is 5 seconds of smiles and suffering per episode where she wants to suck Rikuo's dick? Hell, even those two randos were thrown there since otherwise, it would have been too troublesome to actually develop these moronic characters. This is what I was talking about being shallow. While romance is definitely a revolving, prevalent theme, but it's not the core of the show. Yesterday's core is more or less an introspection of love, and despite being 25-ish years old, is still something prevalent in post-adolescent romantic relationships in this generation. That isn't something to scoff at because a lot has changed in 25-ish years. While sure, characters are infuriating and the story seems bullshit at times -- I myself wanted to drop this show at episode four, but I realized that this show isn't NHK (even predates it) or any other seinen romance out there. It's an old beast that requires a "new" perspective in order to enjoy it, that is, taking a step back and introspecting: how these relationships work, how it comes to be, how characters interact each other, why's Shinako being a bitch? That sort of stuff is the core of the series and not the romance itself. That is my fault, I admit, but I don't like to write long explanations to a person that's overtly negative and is on the verge of dropping the series. Kinda a waste of time in my part. puruprendo said: Here, what narrative purpose has people meeting seven times per episode on the street? You call it an exaggeration, but it has definitely happened more times than it should have. Anyway, the narrative purpose is easy: they can't write good and compelling characters or set up interesting situations so they resorted to this cheap plot device multiple times already. Is it realistic? No, but EVEN IF it were if you want to write a credible romance you should avoid as much as humanly possible because not only because it's cheap but it's also unnervingly irrealistic. I said it's an exaggeration because last week or so I skimmed the 8 episodes and counted these meetings. There are only three. Four if being generous and counting something that I don't remember now and for me, not worth recalling. The point is, your claim of seven is not very true. Sure, it's lazy but factor in the amount of time that passed when they stumble across each other, houses are walking distance from each other, and humans being predictable and do not stray away from making and sticking to routines-- I can personally buy it. I see these scenes more as like a highlight of their month or fortnight; it doesn't happen often but the way the anime is structured it seems constant. puruprendo said: The two randos? They weren't mentioned in the following episodes *at all*. The only and fucking only thing they did was to create some sort of chaos (aka cheap jealousy). Ohh, but they had nice dialogues, I won't deny that. But what did these nice dialogues do at the end of the day? Absolutely nothing. Did they develop the characters? How did they give depth to Haru? And Rikuo? Yes, as I said, absolutely nothing was given from them if not added cheapness. See above for the shallowness and introspection comment. Episode four and five made me very sceptical to the overall direction of the anime. While they seem episodic in nature and the characters doesn't seem to affect the story that much, and only to serve as melodrama--some fuel to the fire, these episodes aren't entirely out of substance. These episodes, more or less, support my idea of the introspection of post-adolescent romantic relationships by presenting familiar situations. Those episodes do not exactly push the story at that time because they focus more on the side characters, even it seems like they were more suited to OVAs, but they provided some insight to Rikuo and Haru. Like Rikuo being kind, and Haru having a choice. puruprendo said: First of all, what are these 'finer features' and 'most of what it has to offer'? You didn't mention them anywhere, if not at a superficial 'these characters are so good, trust me!'. Secondly, what the fuck? It's realistic because you say so and because I 'supposedly haven't experienced impossible crap'? This is the reason why I avoided trying to flesh out my responses because it's clear that you completely missed everything Yesterday put out. It's discouraging because I don't want to pull out 2 month's worth of thoughts and two hours and thirty minutes of my time in an attempt to explain to someone who's gonna drop it anyway. But again, I'll entertain you. The reason why people think it's realistic because these things happen. Believe it or not. There are "manic pixie girls" who are stubborn and stalkerish like Haru who wouldn't let go if there are still chances -- even more-so today: they are generally called e-girls now. There are people who can't get over their infatuation, despite being years. There are high school exes that pop in because its convenient and there are high school crushes that confess and disappear, knowing that they would never meet again. These things aren't impossible. While I haven't experienced it all at once, I experienced some of them at a part of my life. If not, other people like my friends have experienced it one way or the other. Yesterday's praised for its realism because of that; because the situations that the anime presents are plausible and not far off from the truth. Just because it doesn't happen to you, doesn't make it "impossible crap". 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ToraiS said: You hate it, but it is what it is. It's just easier to drop this show and move on in your life than to complain about stuff about which flew over your head. While I agree, the anime has its own flaws, but that's not the anime's fault but your own. But sure, I'll entertain you and take some time, even if it seems like a bit of a waste. The problem isn't the argument itself, but the fact that you used it right away when I provided flaws and what I believe valid criticism. Before going into the 'the show isn't for you' route, you *should* refute them. Otherwise, it's simply a cheap and shallow counterpoint. Also, I really hope you'll define this 'stuff which flew over my head'. ToraiS said: While it seems like the anime is slowing down because of Shinako's indecisiveness, it is only a baseless assumption that the author is deliberately doing this in order to pad out her manga. If it is indeed so, management, bureaucracies and directors could have noticed this and shaved it down; there is no sense of allocating precious manpower and resource into episodes which basically repeat itself. The current trend of anime adaptions nowadays are bare minimums, directors generously cut content at the sight of scenes that are unconducive to the story. So, I wholly disagree with the assumption that the episodes that we have on Shinako is just there to drag it out unless there is proof that it is so. Until then, it is only a baseless assumption and not a valid critique to the anime. So, basically, unless the authors themselves confirm that they suck at writing what I said isn't a valid critique at all? Is that the 'proof' you're waiting for? That's hilarious. What is a valid critique then? According to your reasoning, nothing is a valid critique at all since "the author might have done it on purpose". I'm more of a 'death of the author' guy and, honestly, your position very much defeats the purpose of a discussion. Anyway, is it an assumption? Yes. Is it baseless? Absolutely not. I've already expressed multiple times my arguments, if anything please respond to them. ToraiS said: This is what I was talking about being shallow. While romance is definitely a revolving, prevalent theme, but it's not the core of the show. Yesterday's core is more or less an introspection of love, and despite being 25-ish years old, is still something prevalent in post-adolescent romantic relationships in this generation. That isn't something to scoff at because a lot has changed in 25-ish years. While sure, characters are infuriating and the story seems bullshit at times -- I myself wanted to drop this show at episode four, but I realized that this show isn't NHK (even predates it) or any other seinen romance out there. It's an old beast that requires a "new" perspective in order to enjoy it, that is, taking a step back and introspecting: how these relationships work, how it comes to be, how characters interact each other, why's Shinako being a bitch? That sort of stuff is the core of the series and not the romance itself. I'll admit it, I was tempted to childish scream 'I want proof of your vision being the correct unless the author confirms it isn't a valid counterargument!'. Jokes aside, I think I'm missing something. I don't think 'Yesterday's core is the romance' and 'Yesterday's core is the introspection of love' are very different statements. If anything, mine is more precise. I'll repeat: more or less everything every character does in this show is centered around the romance, the love. I don't get why my vision is 'shallow', seriously. I'd like clarification. ToraiS said: I said it's an exaggeration because last week or so I skimmed the 8 episodes and counted these meetings. There are only three. Four if being generous and counting something that I don't remember now and for me, not worth recalling. The point is, your claim of seven is not very true. Sure, it's lazy but factor in the amount of time that passed when they stumble across each other, houses are walking distance from each other, and humans being predictable and do not stray away from making and sticking to routines-- I can personally buy it. I see these scenes more as like a highlight of their month or fortnight; it doesn't happen often but the way the anime is structured it seems constant. I also skimmed through them and these are the results: Episode 1, minute 9: Rikuo and Haru at the park Episode 2, minute 7: Rikuo and Shinako at the park Later at minute 9: Haru and Rou appear too Episode 3, minute 19: Haru and Rikuo Episode 4, minute 11: Haru and Rou (you can not count this if you prefer, but imo it felt like a very forced meeting) Episode 5, minute 7: Haru/Minato and Rikuo/Shinako Episode 6, minute 11: Shinako and Haru AND THEN Chika at Rikuo's at minute 12 Later at minute 18: Chika and Shinako Episode 8, minute 11: Shinako and Haru What can we notice? Not only the huge amount of convenient meetings (seven per episode was clearly hyperbole, but my point stands) but that some even happened shortly from each other. Now, there's an important thing you ignored: Is it realistic? No, but EVEN IF it were if you want to write a credible romance you should avoid as much as humanly possible because it's cheap Again, even if it was justifiable narratively, it doesn't make it less cheap as hell. Not actually developing the characters or having interesting interactions but resorting to these random meetings, that's lazy writing. ToraiS said: That is my fault, I admit, but I don't like to write long explanations to a person that's overtly negative and is on the verge of dropping the series. Kinda a waste of time in my part. This point particularly bothers me, but I'll get to it later. ToraiS said: See above for the shallowness and introspection comment. Episode four and five made me very sceptical to the overall direction of the anime. While they seem episodic in nature and the characters doesn't seem to affect the story that much, and only to serve as melodrama--some fuel to the fire, these episodes aren't entirely out of substance. These episodes, more or less, support my idea of the introspection of post-adolescent romantic relationships by presenting familiar situations. Those episodes do not exactly push the story at that time because they focus more on the side characters, even it seems like they were more suited to OVAs, but they provided some insight to Rikuo and Haru. Like Rikuo being kind, and Haru having a choice. So, they are absolutely crap. Exactly my point. They came, added some cheap jealousy, didn't affect the story AT ALL, and finally forgotten for the rest of their lives. What are you talking about? We already knew Rikuo was kind and that Haru had a choice, this 'insight' was abysmal. ToraiS said: This is the reason why I avoided trying to flesh out my responses because it's clear that you completely missed everything Yesterday put out. It's discouraging because I don't want to pull out 2 month's worth of thoughts and two hours and thirty minutes of my time in an attempt to explain to someone who's gonna drop it anyway. Personally, once you've written a post you're ought to explain it, defend it, and correct it. Either that or explicitly stating that you don't intend to progress the discussion. I'm fine with both. Your replies, however, are half-assed: you answer to somethings but ignore critical arguments. It's unpleasant. You don't think this is worth your time? Good, simple write 'I'm sick of this discussion' and that's it. Don't go ahead and reply to what is more convenient to you and don't provide sufficient explanations. ToraiS said: But again, I'll entertain you. The reason why people think it's realistic because these things happen. Believe it or not. There are "manic pixie girls" who are stubborn and stalkerish like Haru who wouldn't let go if there are still chances -- even more-so today: they are generally called e-girls now. There are people who can't get over their infatuation, despite being years. There are high school exes that pop in because its convenient and there are high school crushes that confess and disappear, knowing that they would never meet again. These things aren't impossible. While I haven't experienced it all at once, I experienced some of them at a part of my life. If not, other people like my friends have experienced it one way or the other. Yesterday's praised for its realism because of that; because the situations that the anime presents are plausible and not far off from the truth. Just because it doesn't happen to you, doesn't make it "impossible crap". It's a shame, because those relatable situations are the biggest selling points of this show. You ignore the real argument. The problem isn't the individual situations or even characters (expect Shinako) by themselves, but how they (don't) interact. Going by your reasoning, everything is virtually realistic because they could have some realistic situations, ignoring the cause-and-effect relations. |
puruprendo said: The problem isn't the argument itself, but the fact that you used it right away when I provided flaws and what I believe valid criticism. Before going into the 'the show isn't for you' route, you *should* refute them. Otherwise, it's simply a cheap and shallow counterpoint. Also, I really hope you'll define this 'stuff which flew over my head'. I should refute them but doing so is tiresome because I need to spell out most of the messages from 9 episodes of anime, and that is 210 minutes worth of screen time spanning 63+ days. Not only do I need to recall material from the anime, but material from my past selves as well. That is an inordinate amount of effort to debate a subjective topic with a person that has a preconceived bias. So, it's not worth it in my part to attempt explain and as such, I won't reply to this thread of messages anymore. puruprendo said: So, basically, unless the authors themselves confirm that they suck at writing what I said isn't a valid critique at all? Is that the 'proof' you're waiting for? That's hilarious. What is a valid critique then? According to your reasoning, nothing is a valid critique at all since "the author might have done it on purpose". I'm more of a 'death of the author' guy and, honestly, your position very much defeats the purpose of a discussion. Anyway, is it an assumption? Yes. Is it baseless? Absolutely not. I've already expressed multiple times my arguments, if anything please respond to them. No. You assumed that Shinako's character which is going in circles for quite a few episodes now is proof that the author is trying to extend her manga. I refuted the "extending her manga" bit, because there are checks and balances that absolutely would not allow that to happen; publishers, editors, directors, etc. If it does pass through that filters, it's purposeful or the writing cannot be patched up by directing choices. You know, you keep introducing these red herrings but berating me for attacking them. puruprendo said: I'll admit it, I was tempted to childish scream 'I want proof of your vision being the correct unless the author confirms it isn't a valid counterargument!'. Joke all you want but that's a strawman. People can still interpret something out of "bad writing". They aren't mutually exclusive. puruprendo said: Jokes aside, I think I'm missing something. I don't think 'Yesterday's core is the romance' and 'Yesterday's core is the introspection of love' are very different statements. The only thing common between them is you're watching a romance because if it were true, we'd be saying the same things now. You underestimate how perception and viewing things in the right lense is needed, if not required, to enjoying a show. That is my running theme for the past like what, two replies? I'm not saying that this anime is the best thing ever since baby Jesus was born. It has it own flaws, it has its fair share of questionable writing, but critiquing it because you're short-sighted is disingenuous at best. puruprendo said: What can we notice? Not only the huge amount of convenient meetings (seven per episode was clearly hyperbole, but my point stands) but that some even happened shortly from each other. Now, there's an important thing you ignored: Is it realistic? No, but EVEN IF it were if you want to write a credible romance you should avoid as much as humanly possible because it's cheap Again, even if it was justifiable narratively, it doesn't make it less cheap as hell. Not actually developing the characters or having interesting interactions but resorting to these random meetings, that's lazy writing. Funny how you berate this anime is unrealistic, but you want it to obey conventional writing. I sometimes stumble across an acquaintance and thinking "Oh, this is gonna be the part where gonna have an interesting, meaningful conversation!", but it always end with mundane small talk and nothing happening. Hm, that sounds eerily familiar. Again, your expectations skew your perception which is unconducive to what the show is saying. puruprendo said: So, they are absolutely crap. Exactly my point. They came, added some cheap jealousy, didn't affect the story AT ALL, and finally forgotten for the rest of their lives. What are you talking about? We already knew Rikuo was kind and that Haru had a choice, this 'insight' was abysmal. This is proof that the romance core we're talking about isn't the same thing. 5 and 6 were ample opportunities to support my theories about it being an introspection more than anything. While not wrong, the average viewer could attempt to dissect what happened and consider it useless because it doesn't move the story. I agree but the core of the show isn't romantic progress but, again, how relationships interact and function; an introspection. puruprendo said: Personally, once you've written a post you're ought to explain it, defend it, and correct it. Either that or explicitly stating that you don't intend to progress the discussion. I'm fine with both. Your replies, however, are half-assed: you answer to somethings but ignore critical arguments. It's unpleasant. You don't think this is worth your time? Good, simple write 'I'm sick of this discussion' and that's it. Don't go ahead and reply to what is more convenient to you and don't provide sufficient explanations. I'm obliged to do that, but this is a subjective discussion. I do not intend to "win" a subjective discussion because more often than not, there is no winning. It's a waste of time for you and for me. ToraiS said: But again, I'll entertain you. The reason why people think it's realistic because these things happen. Believe it or not. There are "manic pixie girls" who are stubborn and stalkerish like Haru who wouldn't let go if there are still chances -- even more-so today: they are generally called e-girls now. There are people who can't get over their infatuation, despite being years. There are high school exes that pop in because its convenient and there are high school crushes that confess and disappear, knowing that they would never meet again. These things aren't impossible. While I haven't experienced it all at once, I experienced some of them at a part of my life. If not, other people like my friends have experienced it one way or the other. Yesterday's praised for its realism because of that; because the situations that the anime presents are plausible and not far off from the truth. Just because it doesn't happen to you, doesn't make it "impossible crap". It's a shame, because those relatable situations are the biggest selling points of this show. puruprendo said: You ignore the real argument. The problem isn't the individual situations or even characters (expect Shinako) by themselves, but how they (don't) interact. Going by your reasoning, everything is virtually realistic because they could have some realistic situations, ignoring the cause-and-effect relations. Red herring. Was replying to this: puruprendo said: what the fuck? It's realistic because you say so and because I 'supposedly haven't experienced impossible crap'? So I'll end my replies with a closing note: Do me a favor and drop the series, please. There's no sense on continuing something what you don't like. 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ToraiS said: I should refute them but doing so is tiresome because I need to spell out most of the messages from 9 episodes of anime, and that is 210 minutes worth of screen time spanning 63+ days. Not only do I need to recall material from the anime, but material from my past selves as well. That is an inordinate amount of effort to debate a subjective topic with a person that has a preconceived bias. So, it's not worth it in my part to attempt explain and as such, I won't reply to this thread of messages anymore. Don't you realise the contradiction? You've been telling for a while 'this is a waste of time' or 'this isn't the right place' (this is literally... the episode's discussion thread, couldn't think of a better place), but still continue to discuss without, admittedly, actually refuting anything. You should have stopped right at this paragraph and as I said, I would have been fine with it. ToraiS said: No. You assumed that Shinako's character which is going in circles for quite a few episodes now is proof that the author is trying to extend her manga. I refuted the "extending her manga" bit, because there are checks and balances that absolutely would not allow that to happen; publishers, editors, directors, etc. If it does pass through that filters, it's purposeful or the writing cannot be patched up by directing choices. You know, you keep introducing these red herrings but berating me for attacking them. It isn't a 'red herring' in the slightest. But first: your premises don't make sense. Why would the editors stop a mangaka from extending his manga if it is selling? They aren't some holy QualityTM checkers for the readers' sake. They want to sell. Second, why would the anime's staff go ahead and 'fix the manga's mistakes'? I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's quite a hopefully stupid assumption. The number of bad anime that adapts the manga, LN, or whatever 1:1 is huge. Also, your 'there is no sense of allocating precious manpower and resource into episodes which basically repeat itself' is a very ridiculous claim. Let alone the existence of the hundreds of ecchi/fantasy/harem/romance/whatever animes that have the sole difference of their heroines' hair color, very similar episodes actually are better since they can re-use animations, locations, backgrounds or whatnot and is generally easier. Now that I've disproved your basis, no, mine isn't a 'red herring'. I didn't change the focus of your argument, in fact, I directly addressed your conclusion: "yours is a baseless assumption unless there's proof". Which is stupid, what sort of proof could possibly exist? How many people would admit that they can't write, they are lazy and what their fans have been supporting or buying is garbage? ToraiS said: Joke all you want but that's a strawman. People can still interpret something out of "bad writing". They aren't mutually exclusive. And again with baseless accusations. How is it a strawman? That's what you said, "yours isn't a valid critique, I want proof". What bothers me is that supposedly my posts aren't 'valid critiques at all', you've been saying it for a while now. That's a ridiculous claim that in my opinion very much defeats the purpose of a discussion. You didn't explicitly state it, but it's absolutely reasonable comparison. If you think you need 'proof of the authors that they're actually extending their manga to slow down things as much as possible', you'd also think that you need 'proof of the authors that they're actually writing bad characters/bad story/bad animations'. That's a natural conclusion. ToraiS said: The only thing common between them is you're watching a romance because if it were true, we'd be saying the same things now. You underestimate how perception and viewing things in the right lense is needed, if not required, to enjoying a show. That is my running theme for the past like what, two replies? I'm not saying that this anime is the best thing ever since baby Jesus was born. It has it own flaws, it has its fair share of questionable writing, but critiquing it because you're short-sighted is disingenuous at best. Why am I 'short-sighted'? What is the 'right lense'? I'll say it again, these are the bits where you should add arguments, explanations, and some sort of depth. Otherwise, they are simply buzzwords thrown around without any sense. ToraiS said: Funny how you berate this anime is unrealistic, but you want it to obey conventional writing. I sometimes stumble across an acquaintance and thinking "Oh, this is gonna be the part where gonna have an interesting, meaningful conversation!", but it always end with mundane small talk and nothing happening. Hm, that sounds eerily familiar. Again, your expectations skew your perception which is unconducive to what the show is saying. I.. truly don't understand what you're trying to say here. If by "conventional writing" you mean well-written interactions, then sure. Ohh, your example is very amusing. My point: "Yesterday resorts to lazy writing instead of actually developing its characters or having interesting interactions" Your counterpoint: "Well, in real life not all interactions are interesting!" And this is, ladies and gentlemen, what a real strawman looks like. You've chosen to purposefully ignore my writing criticism and instead focus on a proposition I didn't say: "a good romance anime must have interesting interactions to be realistic". That I don't agree with. What I was saying instead was "Yesterday resorts to cheapness instead of actually, for example, developing its characters or interesting interactions that actually move the plot". ToraiS said: This is proof that the romance core we're talking about isn't the same thing. 5 and 6 were ample opportunities to support my theories about it being an introspection more than anything. While not wrong, the average viewer could attempt to dissect what happened and consider it useless because it doesn't move the story. I agree but the core of the show isn't romantic progress but, again, how relationships interact and function; an introspection. Well, I think that's a reasonable interpretation. I don't agree with it, but it's certainly reasonable and even not that much different from mine. However, I still don't like how you defined it as 'shallow' when it makes sense and I have provided support. ToraiS said: I'm obliged to do that, but this is a subjective discussion. I do not intend to "win" a subjective discussion because more often than not, there is no winning. It's a waste of time for you and for me. Read my first paragraph. If it is really a waste of your time, you shouldn't have bothered to begin with. ToraiS said: Red herring. Was replying to this: puruprendo said: what the fuck? It's realistic because you say so and because I 'supposedly haven't experienced impossible crap'? How is it a red herring? You're saying it's realistic, I'm arguing it isn't. That's the point. And I've responded to that in my reply, if you don't think so explain why. ToraiS said: So I'll end my replies with a closing note: Do me a favor and drop the series, please. There's no sense on continuing something what you don't like. Not trying to be condescending here but I believe it's better to spend your time doing something else that you love rather than somethng you hate. I've literally stated in my very first post in this thread that I had dropped it and wouldn't waste any more time on it. I'm continuing to discuss because, as I said, I believe that I'm obliged to explain, defend, or correct what I've told. |
| Everyone is talking about romance this and that but isn't Rikuo's character progression amazing??? He went from a loafer with a part-time job in a convenience store, to fully pursuing his dream and actually getting a full-time job in what he loves doing. Not only that, he stopped being an asshole to Haru, probably because while he doesn't have romantic feelings for her, he does seem to care about her. He tried to let her now that she should distance himself from him in the least damaging way possible but of course this sort of rejection is always really painful no matter how it is said. Also, it's really unfair from Shinako's part to ask him to be more pushy when he already confessed himself to her and got rejected. Bitch, DO SOMETHING, why u got to w8 for others??? |
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| The way the animated Haru’s expression at the end was one of the best scenes I have watched in anime, though it was depressing to watch. 5/5 |
| Surprisingly not awful episode. It looks like the calm before the storm. Haru was pissed off at the end lol. |
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| beautifully directed ;-; I could almost feel Haru's heart sink when Rikuo basically told her to fuck off and it panned into her stunned eyes. beautiful, beautiful stuff. |
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| Ah shit here we go again that Rikuo's problematic with Haru. I feel pity, but, what could i do? This is drama, so, yeah, thats it. A bit exaggeration with what Shinako and Haru think and act until now. But, shit was real. And thats definitely on Rikuo's hand to choose the right shit over that twos. Hmm in the end, should they finished their problem there? It must be, and i wished that Shinako officially moved on from her memories. Because, its awkward, girl, really. Ah, the ED never missed its chance to make me crying. Its no surprised when the last episode Rikuo and Haru got together. Thats it. |
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| Poor Haru I feel bad for her, she just wants to be loved :( |
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| So Rikuo finally became decisive about his job and by the looks of the last scene also in his relation with Haru. Haru took getting friendzoned like a champ there, but I'm glad Rikuo tried to distance himself from her if he really wants pursuit Shinako. On the other hand Shinako also needs to make some decisions instead of running away. |
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| finally i feel like the story is moving! i hope it was worth to watch until here. wanna see what's going to happen between rikuo and haru. not givin a fck about shinako. |
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| Rikuo, you'd better have condom with yourself, just in case, lol.. Better, if a pack.. I mean, with some moments of atmosphere you're sharing - it really can go there with some minor push, really.. Like accidentally spilling something on crotch, or just one glance, one accidental touch, anything really.. Though, I guess, you're so head over heals for Shinako, you'd just gladly impregnate that woman.. I personally don't care too much about Rikuo x Shinako, so kinda watch it with the feeling "alright", I guess.. Also Rikuo's friend is just definition of normie, I guess.. With his ideas and views.. Eh character for me personally.. Well, Haru is just dedicated good girl, waiting for Rikuo, trying to be cheerful with him and stuff.. I like Haru - but who knows, what Rikuo really thinks of Haru.. Guess, for now he's not that interested, only slight moments of care appearing in him.. Well, it'll be how it'll be.. Haru is still young, can have this waiting relationship, really, for some time, I guess.. Still time to do whatever she'll want later.. |
| I'm really glad they didn't do it. Otherwise it'd be a stupid things done in the heat of moment. And I always feel bad when Haru always been waiting for Rikuo, like waiting for him to finish job, waiting for him to come home. |
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