Steins;Gate 0 Episode 5 Discussion

May 15, 2018 6:14 AM

#151

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AX3M said:

TKB928 said:

Of course it wasn't meant to be unexpected, but I'd have to agree that it probably would have been much better to take that approach instead. All that buildup was rather meaningless when its conclusion was merely what we already knew being revealed to the cast, despite how well this episode was produced from a standalone perspective. I for one found myself focusing on minor contrivances more than what was going on, because so little actually happened since the buildup was to something that was already there. I can't say this episode was bad, but what it ended up trying to do was vapid & manipulative. It's a strong effort put into a weak purpose.

Also, you know the only reason Maho isn't well endowed is because the "token loli" jokes wouldn't work out as well if she was. It doesn't validate the sudden chest growth the rest of the female cast got either.[/prudishness]

Hmm I think people who disliked the buildup to the event and the event itself are taking it the wrong way. The buildup was meant for us to see how the characters (especially Suzuha) would react. The buildup is played on us, that means it's for us, but the "shock" effect is for our perspective towards the characters, not the event itself (seeing Kagari).

That's another way to look at it, but their reactions (and by they I mean Okabe & Suzuha since they're the only ones that know who were there) were as-expected as well. Seeing how this plays out for the rest of the cast is what I'm looking forward to the most in the next episode though.

May 16, 2018 2:00 AM

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TKB928 said:

AX3M said:

Hmm I think people who disliked the buildup to the event and the event itself are taking it the wrong way. The buildup was meant for us to see how the characters (especially Suzuha) would react. The buildup is played on us, that means it's for us, but the "shock" effect is for our perspective towards the characters, not the event itself (seeing Kagari).

That's another way to look at it, but their reactions (and by they I mean Okabe & Suzuha since they're the only ones that know who were there) were as-expected as well. Seeing how this plays out for the rest of the cast is what I'm looking forward to the most in the next episode though.

That's the point. We as the audience know it was going to happen, so we're supposed to feel tension for the characters upon meeting her.

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May 16, 2018 3:45 AM

#153

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AX3M said:

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AX3M said:

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HitSquare said:
Wow, so that's Kagari? Talk about unexpected!

Okay, no, not really. This was suuuuper predictable, I don't know why they tried to hide it from the start. This would have been much better if there was no Suzuha + Kagari flashback, THAT would have been a good plot twist, to finally see how Kagari looks like and that she's exactly like Kurisu. What a wasted opportunity.

By the way, do you need to have an unhealthy bust to feature in this show or what? It's getting out of control, the original was 'a bit' more reserved about it.

Are you serious? In no way was Kagari's introduction meant to be unexpected at all. It's been foreshadowed in the previous episodes and even ep 4 obviously strongly hinted it to be Luka's dad's guest. The Suzuha + Kagari flashbacks were actually meant as a buildup leading to her debut so that's not right either.

About the tiddies, I disagree.. Luka and Maho don't have big ones so your logic is inherently flawed.

Of course it wasn't meant to be unexpected, but I'd have to agree that it probably would have been much better to take that approach instead. All that buildup was rather meaningless when its conclusion was merely what we already knew being revealed to the cast, despite how well this episode was produced from a standalone perspective. I for one found myself focusing on minor contrivances more than what was going on, because so little actually happened since the buildup was to something that was already there. I can't say this episode was bad, but what it ended up trying to do was vapid & manipulative. It's a strong effort put into a weak purpose.

Also, you know the only reason Maho isn't well endowed is because the "token loli" jokes wouldn't work out as well if she was. It doesn't validate the sudden chest growth the rest of the female cast got either.[/prudishness]

Hmm I think people who disliked the buildup to the event and the event itself are taking it the wrong way. The buildup was meant for us to see how the characters (especially Suzuha) would react. The buildup is played on us, that means it's for us, but the "shock" effect is for our perspective towards the characters, not the event itself (seeing Kagari).

That's another way to look at it, but their reactions (and by they I mean Okabe & Suzuha since they're the only ones that know who were there) were as-expected as well. Seeing how this plays out for the rest of the cast is what I'm looking forward to the most in the next episode though.

That's the point. We as the audience know it was going to happen, so we're supposed to feel tension for the characters upon meeting her.

Well that's a shame. It would have been more tense if it wasn't already known, i.e. actually put us in their shoes instead of assuming we'd play make believe so that they wouldn't have to make sure it wasn't obvious. My empathy had long passed by the time they got to the "reveal", rendering the rest of the buildup, as I said earlier, meaningless. It's the same reason why numerous people hold disdain for spoilers, except in this case the show itself is at fault for it.

May 16, 2018 5:35 AM

#154

AX3M

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TKB928 said:

AX3M said:

TKB928 said:

AX3M said:

TKB928 said:

AX3M said:

HitSquare said:
Wow, so that's Kagari? Talk about unexpected!

Okay, no, not really. This was suuuuper predictable, I don't know why they tried to hide it from the start. This would have been much better if there was no Suzuha + Kagari flashback, THAT would have been a good plot twist, to finally see how Kagari looks like and that she's exactly like Kurisu. What a wasted opportunity.

By the way, do you need to have an unhealthy bust to feature in this show or what? It's getting out of control, the original was 'a bit' more reserved about it.

Are you serious? In no way was Kagari's introduction meant to be unexpected at all. It's been foreshadowed in the previous episodes and even ep 4 obviously strongly hinted it to be Luka's dad's guest. The Suzuha + Kagari flashbacks were actually meant as a buildup leading to her debut so that's not right either.

About the tiddies, I disagree.. Luka and Maho don't have big ones so your logic is inherently flawed.

Of course it wasn't meant to be unexpected, but I'd have to agree that it probably would have been much better to take that approach instead. All that buildup was rather meaningless when its conclusion was merely what we already knew being revealed to the cast, despite how well this episode was produced from a standalone perspective. I for one found myself focusing on minor contrivances more than what was going on, because so little actually happened since the buildup was to something that was already there. I can't say this episode was bad, but what it ended up trying to do was vapid & manipulative. It's a strong effort put into a weak purpose.

Also, you know the only reason Maho isn't well endowed is because the "token loli" jokes wouldn't work out as well if she was. It doesn't validate the sudden chest growth the rest of the female cast got either.[/prudishness]

Hmm I think people who disliked the buildup to the event and the event itself are taking it the wrong way. The buildup was meant for us to see how the characters (especially Suzuha) would react. The buildup is played on us, that means it's for us, but the "shock" effect is for our perspective towards the characters, not the event itself (seeing Kagari).

That's another way to look at it, but their reactions (and by they I mean Okabe & Suzuha since they're the only ones that know who were there) were as-expected as well. Seeing how this plays out for the rest of the cast is what I'm looking forward to the most in the next episode though.

That's the point. We as the audience know it was going to happen, so we're supposed to feel tension for the characters upon meeting her.

Well that's a shame. It would have been more tense if it wasn't already known, i.e. actually put us in their shoes instead of assuming we'd play make believe so that they wouldn't have to make sure it wasn't obvious. My empathy had long passed by the time they got to the "reveal", rendering the rest of the buildup, as I said earlier, meaningless. It's the same reason why numerous people hold disdain for spoilers, except in this case the show itself is at fault for it.

I'm not sure anymore lol. The buildup was very similar to the VN, so I didn't know why it's not working so well. Maybe it works better in the VN? Or maybe the direction is just not good enough / flashbacks(-forwards) are not well done?

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May 16, 2018 5:52 AM

#155