Yuri!!! on Ice Episode 10 Discussion

KashiBien said:

He meant life and love.

Elika said:
I'm still cracking up over the fact that YUURI was the playboy in the Eros story all along. Yuuri is the one that came into Victor’s life, seduced him for a night, and left him behind, smitten and forgotten, leaving Victor with only memories and photos. All that time with Yuuri being like “I can’t play this role,” and Victor’s sitting there like “uh hell yeah you can”, and now we know for certain why he was sure of that.

Helenus said:
Ok, again I have to be that one person in this thread: there were no romantic feelings involved in this episode. Not at all.

Kudos to the director to be a master of teasing. But no. Just no. This episode was the perfect example to show how they play everything 'romantic' as a joke. Just look how the whole tone changes when they bring the marriage thing up. Even in-universe they don't take it seriously. No gay-marriage, sorry. I totally doubt that there's love involved between Yuri and Victor. The ring is a token of appreciation. The narration made it clear.

DoragonessU said:
I can't believe that actually happened?!?! I'm literally in tears right now!

Can we safely say that this Yuri on Ice has finally broken past barriers that not many dared to venture?

I'm still in shock about the 'round and golden' part! Kubo and Sayo, you really didn't disappoint!

Also, the new ED is hilarious. They really don't give a damn anymore. lmao!!

sooyong said:
Did I watch a backwards video or something? Because I saw them put rings on each other's RIGHT hands, not left. Engagement/wedding rings go on the left hand.

I really think this was a trolling of sorts. I don't doubt that Victor and Yuuri are close, and I enjoyed seeing them make intimate gestures towards each other, but I thought the scene with the rings and the church bells was just too much.

Enjoy the "engagement" but I think it was just another step of fanservice and people are really taking the bait.

Mula said:
The ED reminds me of The Hangover movies hehehehe XD

OK Victuri is canon, bye Felipe!



engagement goals af :3

heyimaudrey said:
So, like.... can the "Is Yuri on Ice actually gay or just queerbait?" poll be closed now? Thanks.

Helenus said:
I saw a pic with Victor and Yuri wearing matching golden rings ...

Is it time for me to commit seppuku?

zoze said:
I tell you guys, that's a friendship ring. Fujoshi reaction are so hillarious.

It's not canon, no matter what the creator said.

Leverette0014 said:


Ck. http://masterrussian.com/russianculture/russian_wedding.htm

"Russians traditionally wear the wedding ring on the ring finger of the right hand." Try again?

Helenus said:
Ok, again I have to be that one person in this thread: there were no romantic feelings involved in this episode. Not at all.

Kudos to the director to be a master of teasing. But no. Just no. This episode was the perfect example to show how they play everything 'romantic' as a joke. Just look how the whole tone changes when they bring the marriage thing up. Even in-universe they don't take it seriously. No gay-marriage, sorry. I totally doubt that there's love involved between Yuri and Victor. The ring is a token of appreciation. The narration made it clear.

Nonetheless it was an interesting episode. I really like Otabek. And the Yuri Plisetsky fangirls are quite an accurate representation of the YOI fandom.

9/10.

P.S.: I'm convinced Chris is gay. 100%.

sooyong said:

Okay. *shrug*

You know what's really absurd? Whenever I say something that suggests that this series is open to multiple interpretations to encompass anyone's idea of love, no one listens.

As soon as I say something in direct disagreement to the popular opinion, suddenly people start responding. I'm glad to get people's attention by saying something trollish.

The fact that Viktor and Yuuri love each other is not an issue to me. I love seeing them together. What really pisses me off is that so many people are completely dismissive of the idea that this relationship carries the capacity to represent something different for someone else. Just because it's a "gay relationship" to one person doesn't mean it's representative as such to someone else.

I still think these two's love is something that encompasses more than just "omg they're dating" or "omg they're engaged." If that's what it looks like to you, that's totally fine! But why can't their bond represent a different kind of intimate relationship? Why does their relationship have to have a label?

And even though we've had one Japanese native in this forum express her opinion, and another Japanese friend of mind expressed the same view, and even though I've even thoroughly explained the complexity of Japanese sexuality and same-sex bonds, no one wants to even consider that maybe this anime that comes from a different country carries with it a culture that's different from our own.

I get how YOI is "making history" by depicting this close relationship and not labelling as BL. And I like that. However, I think it's disappointing that this series had the potential to be recognized for what it is--which is that it's open to multiple interpretations of love--but less popular opinions about Victuuri are still being declared as narrow-minded, homophobic, delusional, etc.

talewind said:


The thing is, people always play the "why can't this just be a special intimate bond between ~true friends~ uwu" card when the possibility of a queer relationship in fiction comes up, let alone the canonical fact of one. For one thing, it carries the implication that same-sex relationships and emotionally intimate friendships are mutually exclusive, and for another, more often than not it's an attempt to erase and invalidate same-sex relationships when they're already severely lacking in popular media. We saw it happen with Korra and Asami after the series finale of The Legend of Korra, and now we're seeing it happen again with Yuri!!! on Ice. But the thing is, emotionally intimate friendships and same-sex relationships aren't and shouldn't be mutually exclusive. It's generally considered a good thing when two people are friends and have some level of closeness before they become a couple. You can appreciate the emotional depth of Victor and Yuuri's relationship while also appreciating the existence of a same-sex couple in a relatively mainstream anime, a medium that's not well-known for featuring same-sex relationships that exist for more than audience titillation.

SleepyPumpkin said:


Bro, don't you get? It's all part of the training, bro! They have to get engaged with gold rings so it will make the cosmic forces align and allow Yuuri to win gold medal, bro! How can you not see it's totally no homo, bro?

....... (lol couldn't carry on any longer with this xD)

But seriously, I wanna see what some people will come up with! This episode was so gloriously magnificent. Trully the best in the series so far!

My heart is gonna burst/10

Ko-me said:


they just say it a "good luck charm" and stuff. really nothing interesting there.
who come to the wedding? who will be the bast man? I thought it be Yuri best friend that notice his ring first or it can be Yurio.

I"m so happy for Yuri and Vic engagement. Victor already confirm they going to get married.
and really, deny it now is just stupid and painful XD I don't see how it help the series.

TheExplorer said:
So did Victor fall in love with Yuri at the party?

(Btw, Yuri as a stripper with Chris... my soul was not prepared)

seika_e said:
why am i the only one stuck on the victor and yurio scene...i never understood their relationship

kono_baka said:



Wow, talewind! This is very well said! I just opened an account specially to reply to this comment, I am very impressed with how you worded it. This is exactly my feelings, and I couldn't express it in a better way. I am getting really frustrated when, at this point, people still deny Viktor and Yuuri's relationship. And this is not about respecting opinion. I mean, come on! There is a couple in a romantic love, and they don't need people's "opinion" to validate their relationship! I won't go in any further to proove why this isn't a simple "pure friendship relationship" because people who refuse to see it will never see it.

And I love asking that question, so here it goes, please think about it: what if Yuuri is a woman and Viktor is a man. And EVERYTHING ELSE that happened in this anime stays the same. Just Yuuri's gender is different. What if. Imagine this. And picture this with the ring exchange scene. Would people still say that this is only a "friend relationship" between the two of them? NO!!! Why not??? Because hetero romance is just okay and is so easily acceptable and self-validated. So now. Yuuri is a guy. What has changed? The simple fact that they are both guys seems to change everything for some people. Geez.

Helenus said:


I am relieved to see I am not the only one who noticed this. All the BL comments seem to exaggerate Victor and Yuri's relationship and feelings so much. Even after this episode I still view them as friends; there is no chemistry between them just like you said. Oh, and I am so happy you like Otabek. He is the first Kazakh anime character, I still cannot believe he already got such a decent amount of screen time.