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Oct 24, 2016 10:05 PM

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GenesisAria said:
flannan said:
So, I have actually looked up electrohypersensitivity that the "year to live" caller claimed to have.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_hypersensitivity
Basically, that's a delusion that the person is sensitive to electromagnetic fields and feels bad when they are present. Which gives weight to the idea that the caller was lying.

Edit: in the (mean) spirit of MAL, have a 50% more snarkly article: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_hypersensitivity

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Well, by the 3rd episode, they've been name-dropping Tesla a lot, so here's your reason.
Bahaha, everything is made of the same shit, fields of inertial pressure mediation; manifest in charge, discharge, counterspace, space, resistance, capacitance, permittivity(dielectric), permeability(magnetic)... Tesla knew this, and there's a lot of silly ignorants who don't get it XD. The unified field problem was solved before Einstein, because everything MUST be unified for any of physics to even work, especially electrical physics.

See you in the 3rd episode discussion, we probably should not discuss it here.

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In simple terms, EM hypersensitivity is a farce. You don't get more or less sensitive to something that always interacts with the same things in the same ways, and never failes to interact with anything.

1) Electric eels and some other fish are sensitive to electric fields, using the change in that field to navigate their murky waters.
2) Some scientists made animals sensitive to magneric fields by replacing weights in their gravity-sensing organs with iron weights sensitive to magnetic fields. I think it was done with octopi, because human gravity-sensing organs (inner ears, I think) are liquid-based.
3) A radio is a lot more sensitive to EM fields than humans will ever be.
In short, humans have a lot of potential to become more sensitive to EM fields. Implanting a radio in them seems to be the first step, but any cyborgization can make humans vulnerable to EMP attacks.
But an actual sickness that is caused by ordinary-strength EM fields is just luddite propaganda.

GenesisAria said:
Bad science in fiction is always funny, but i really don't like it when people mess with the names and fame of the many people who knew the truth, and convoluting it with modern ignorance. EM can give you cancer, but so can virtually anything else, by electrochemically causing the membrane of sells to fail their job, and lose connectivity with the rest of the body's network. The probability of people getting cancer from any specific thing is calculatable if you have insufficient information on what's happening, and it's the same fallacy they misuse on subatomic effects, yet they seem too incompetent to apply probabilities to cancer causes (cuz the whole cancer sensation is a process of beating around the bush).

Well, finding out what causes cancer is not as fun as curing it, no matter how you look at it. So the best scientists are probably too busy in the "cure" part.
Oct 24, 2016 10:12 PM
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It's improving, but it still has a ways to go.
Oct 25, 2016 12:07 AM

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The pacing in this episode is a lot better than the last one, seriousl though, why do they need to adapt 400 pages in first episode?
Well, I know many anime fans aren't patience enough to follow a proper narrative structure but still.
Hope A1 will do a good job for the rest of story.
Oct 25, 2016 12:50 PM

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flannan said:
GenesisAria said:
In simple terms, EM hypersensitivity is a farce. You don't get more or less sensitive to something that always interacts with the same things in the same ways, and never failes to interact with anything.

1) Electric eels and some other fish are sensitive to electric fields, using the change in that field to navigate their murky waters.
2) Some scientists made animals sensitive to magneric fields by replacing weights in their gravity-sensing organs with iron weights sensitive to magnetic fields. I think it was done with octopi, because human gravity-sensing organs (inner ears, I think) are liquid-based.
3) A radio is a lot more sensitive to EM fields than humans will ever be.
In short, humans have a lot of potential to become more sensitive to EM fields. Implanting a radio in them seems to be the first step, but any cyborgization can make humans vulnerable to EMP attacks.
But an actual sickness that is caused by ordinary-strength EM fields is just luddite propaganda.
1/2) Magnetic fields* many animals use magnetoreception to orient themselves respective to the earth's magnetic polarity. Ken discovered how it works in the tense of in what way they would perceive it, via more red or more blue.


3) Wrong. EM is EM. Low wavelength high frequency EM is highs capacitance, and high wavelength is low capacitance, so yes it takes more work to detect... However a radio antenna is the same as a camera sensor etc. Just like the principle of the speaker vs the microphone - both function the same in principle, and are technically interchangeable, even if each one was designed to be better at their job, but all it is is a different sensor/transmitter design for different frequencies. Light is light, and all of the EM spectrum is light. A radio antenna is designed to be best at receiving radio frequencies, and the system inside only process the relevant frequencies into sound, according to it's tuning.


GenesisAria said:
Bad science in fiction is always funny, but i really don't like it when people mess with the names and fame of the many people who knew the truth, and convoluting it with modern ignorance. EM can give you cancer, but so can virtually anything else, by electrochemically causing the membrane of sells to fail their job, and lose connectivity with the rest of the body's network. The probability of people getting cancer from any specific thing is calculatable if you have insufficient information on what's happening, and it's the same fallacy they misuse on subatomic effects, yet they seem too incompetent to apply probabilities to cancer causes (cuz the whole cancer sensation is a process of beating around the bush).

Well, finding out what causes cancer is not as fun as curing it, no matter how you look at it. So the best scientists are probably too busy in the "cure" part.
Uh, the biggest problem is the resistance against electrical understandings, the mainstream is so caught up in business science (an aftermath of WW2 and cold war) that they focus on sensationalism and that which gets funding and so on... They're caught up in particle psychosis and can't progress, they've not progressed for decades. Cancer study is an abomination, when more realistic and less drug-reliant or machine-reliant methods of prevention and fighting are already known. Eating habits and other such are not patentable.
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Oct 28, 2016 1:20 AM

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That teeth-pulling spectacle was so SAW-ish. Jigsaw turned into some goth-punk Hatsune Miku clone keychain.

I'm not a fan of Miyuu but I don't understand idiots who have time to embarrass her on air. For me, fortune-telling is just something that's done for fun. I've had my fortune told and honestly, none of their predictions came true but it's fun. Some people have too much time on their hands to bash an amateur fortune-teller on stream.

Oh and those tarot cards were hideous. I've seen much better ones manufactured and sold on Amazon
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Oct 29, 2016 7:57 AM

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If the first episode was tough, this is no exception. The narrative is so intricate because of steps forward and backward, which in turn, are interwoven with events that affect all the characters; at a glance it may seem like a meaningless cauldron, but believe it is not so. Complicating the situation is not even know who the good guys and who the bad guys. For now I want to trust in a plot that looks quite sophisticated in intent that wants to pursue, citing some pretty dramatic reasons. Designs that are good but not exceptional at times, with blur in images here and there. It is beautiful the end-card.

Nov 4, 2016 3:20 AM

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Starting to like the series so far, as long as you can follow it you'll be good (pay attention especially the dates )
Pacing might be fast and messy but the show's got a potential to be great (or shit)

4/5 for this episode
Jan 6, 2017 5:34 PM

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Quite a different pacing in this second episode I must say, looking forward to see what's next.
Jan 6, 2017 8:34 PM

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This episode felt like a lot was happening at once!
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Jan 29, 2017 1:41 AM

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Poor chi-chan, did she died? or kidnapped?
Jan 30, 2017 11:42 AM

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I am not very sure why I keep watching, but now I really want to see what happened with the famous teacher
Feb 24, 2017 7:11 PM

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Well some things make sense now the mystery is definitely keeping me watching this.
Jun 3, 2017 8:44 AM

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Not bad, this was an interesting episode. I'm liking the OST a lot. Good animation and directing, I kind of like the crazy style this uses to tell its story.
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Sep 26, 2017 8:38 PM
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....this show is confusing.
Oct 5, 2020 10:53 AM
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Alright, this pace is more like it, still rapid, but more digestable.

Yooo, Ryoukan cursed Yuuta, that would explain why he encountered the professor's corpse, but knowing that the assigned 'devil' didn't kill the man, it only makes things much more intriguing...
Jul 30, 2021 7:58 PM
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pretty decent episode overall.

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