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Viktor_Otaku said: Dragon_Slayer_X said: Yeah and after they learn that Slaine has deceived them all this time and killed Saazbaum, they are going to say "Slaine-sama so cool" No not really, they are just going to team-up against him. Also he clearly was jealous and in a 1-1 battle he couldn't kill Inaho. And in what episode did he say he was jealous again ?........... Show not tell This episode The previous season finale. Everything he did this season. |
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Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Slaine winning the war would end like this Knights get to Earth. Knights decide to keep earth to themselves and say fuck Mars Knights kill Slaine and take Lemrina or Asseylum. Or maybe Slaine killed all the rebellious knights. LOL you underestimate human greed especially that of people who already have great power. |
ANGRY2011 said: I still like how everyone is all fussed up one way or another about the Slaine/Inaho/Asseylum situation while the far bigger event to me is still the betrayal of Lemrina. |
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| The only way it could not end with Slaine's death or fall is if they indeed plan to turn it into franchise. Than he will hold power and Inaho will lead rebels or something. But there is too much foreshadowing of Slaine's tragic future in the OP. Death flags are here too. CookingPriest said: Sure, as soon as Russia stops BEING everything bad in geopolitical landsape. I won't discuss this very arguable point, but I must say that you bringing it twice in this thread is not appreciated. Nobody drags real world politics here besides you. To everyone else - I am sorry for reacting, but it was really grating (and inaccurate). |
kymano said: CookingPriest said: Yeah I found that Hilarious. Slaine: *spends 19 months being a monster* Slaine: OH SHIT PRINCESS IS AWAKENING. Slaine: Hm.....will she hate myclothes? :[ Aseylum: *talks about Inaho* Slaine: :<<<<<<<<< FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF- Slaine: Oh shit did I fuck up somewhere? ...Nevermind time to invade earth. Nope , Slaine's not angry over Inaho, if he was he would have killed him in ep 15, he is angry with himself, how the dirty scheme of Martian politics had changed him for the worse. Clearly he cannot back out now, his goal is to unite the counts under his authority and Counts need a show to be put on. Not that I'm discounting Slain's ultimate objective as his driving force for spurring the Orbital Knights into action, but can anyone deny that the way the end of the episode was directed made his (perhaps subconscious) bitterness/jealousy come to light in rushing to action and progressing his plans swiftly and aggressively? Dragon_Slayer_X said: Darklight0303 said: CRUHTEO COMES BACK! I wanna dream okay With a mask and a Red/Golden Kat. I can get behind this. |
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| Getting the counts work together is going to cause massive problems, can Inaho fix it, I mean can he find a way to defeat them? |
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| loved this episode. seeing forward for next one. I just realised how fuck'ng good the music is and how bad most situations would look without any ^^ |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| Let Earth be done through Heaven's Fall. That landing castle impact would be devastating for all life on the planet.. ehm. Other than that it was good episode,things are finally moving to final confrontation. And intrigues were heavy with this episode. |
| Slaine has fallen too far, he started walking on the path and now he must see it to the end. This episode showed his resolve. He will walk this path even if he can never be with the princess. Earth is in serious trouble now. If the Martians start working together, Earth is going to have no chance. They struggled beating them 1 vs Inaho and CO. Inaho is going to really have to rely on that eye, and at this rate it'll consume him. |
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Viktor_Otaku said: Dragon_Slayer_X said: Episode 12 Episode 19 You are not going to do the "He isn't jealous because he didn't say it" cliche are you? The real problem here is unless there is any real concrete or solid evidence here. We cannot say for certain what the hell is actually going on in Slaine's mind. You really don't have to be an expert in psychology to know what Slaine is thinking. |
Viktor_Otaku said: The real problem here is unless there is any real concrete or solid evidence here. We cannot say for certain what the hell is actually going on in Slaine's mind. Dropping the roses after Assyelum mentioned Inaho pretty much confirmed it you know. |
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Viktor_Otaku said: It could mean jealous, or Slaine's decision to firmly give up on Assyelum. I hope so. But he still betrayed Lemrina for her... |
deadoptimist said: Viktor_Otaku said: It could mean jealous, or Slaine's decision to firmly give up on Assyelum. I hope so. But he still betrayed Lemrina for her... I would't be so surprised if he tried to kill her and use Lemurina instead. But as this series go we sure get the situation when Lemurina tries to rebel against him instead. Characters of this show really don't have any long-term thinking. |
Viktor_Otaku said: When the direction is basically telling you that it is this way, it kinda seems delusional to still insist there are other ways to perceive it.KamiAlice said: Dropping the roses after Assyelum mentioned Inaho pretty much confirmed it you know. It could mean jealous, or Slaine's decision to firmly give up on Assyelum. Just because you see the glass as half full does not mean that other can't see it as half-empty. |
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Viktor_Otaku said: deadoptimist said: I hope so. But he still betrayed Lemrina for her... I suppose that he still have lingering feelings for Assyelum, but it seems that he finally had steeled himself. That would be good to see. And logial too - he is not the boy he was when he fell for her. He could see how childish Asseylum is. But I sadly can't see it happening in A.Z. They put a lot of weight on the love triangle. And Slaine is really cold towards Lemrina - he can't even hold his facial expression and says that he fights for the other princess even after the girl has agreed to marry him. That's twisted. |
| Sorry for possibly starting a flame war, but tell me again why Slaine isn't unanimously considered the best character in this show? Without him the plot would be nothing. He's the most polarizing character that I can remember in recent history, and his haters are the most passionate people I have ever seen on the internet. I just can't see any other character that can stand up to him in this show. In4 people call him a yandere immoral murderer, as if morality determines a character's worth. |
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kymano said: Dragon_Slayer_X said: Yeah and after they learn that Slaine has deceived them all this time and killed Saazbaum, they are going to say "Slaine-sama so cool" No not really, they are just going to team-up against him. Also he clearly was jealous and in a 1-1 battle he couldn't kill Inaho. Then why didnt he do it if he was jealous, Clearly Eldi told him everything about Inaho and Asseylum and he still didnt kill Inaho.Inaho was right there damaged and out of luck, or better yet he could've killed Inko and leave Inaho to be shredded by the raining bullet but he didnt. Also he single-handedly took out the Terran space HQ base which is more powerful than the Delucacion, so that means he could have took out the Delucacion but he didnt . Like the saying goes "the show must go on" Slaine has already challenged the Counts to accept his offer of Unity under his authority and the Counts are expecting a good show. Slaine is just angry at the what he had to do to get through to the Counts. LOL What? He killed a defenseless base exactly because Inaho was not there to stop him |
| was hoping she would said Inahos name when she woke up because FUCK YOU SLAIN. |
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Symqn said: was hoping she would said Inahos name when she woke up because FUCK YOU SLAIN. I Am okay with him having to hammer out who he is while she remembers bits of stuff about Inaho in far easier way. |
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CookingPriest said: Symqn said: was hoping she would said Inahos name when she woke up because FUCK YOU SLAIN. I Am okay with him having to hammer out who he is while she remembers bits of stuff about Inaho in far easier way. And on her own. So no one had to prompt her. Shows what memory is stronger. |
Savethebestforu said: Sorry for possibly starting a flame war, but tell me again why Slaine isn't unanimously considered the best character in this show? Without him the plot would be nothing. He's the most polarizing character that I can remember in recent history, and his haters are the most passionate people I have ever seen on the internet. I just can't see any other character that can stand up to him in this show. In4 people call him a yandere immoral murderer, as if morality determines a character's worth. imo he is the most interesting Character and not as flat as Inaho. But the guy with the alcohol problem is my fav, because.. alcohol. He seems to be the only logical person in the whole anime. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
kymano said: Darklight0303 said: LOL What? He killed a defenseless base exactly because Inaho was not there to stop him Inaho's mecha was severly damaged during then and Delucacion had orders to return back to Earth,either way Inaho could not chase Slaine.Also that base was NOT defenseless they are a HQ which means they are armed and have soldiers with Mechas but still Slaine took them out. Against a machine that can predict the future, the base was as good as defenseless. |
Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: LOL What? He killed a defenseless base exactly because Inaho was not there to stop him "defenseless" as in bristled with guns and cannons and mechs plut scanners right ? Because all of that really can help against future sight and supernatural speed. |
Savethebestforu said: Sorry for possibly starting a flame war, but tell me again why Slaine isn't unanimously considered the best character in this show? Without him the plot would be nothing. He's the most polarizing character that I can remember in recent history, and his haters are the most passionate people I have ever seen on the internet. I just can't see any other character that can stand up to him in this show. In4 people call him a yandere immoral murderer, as if morality determines a character's worth. Cause some people may only like a character with whom they always agree. They need to associate themselves with him and like being him to think him a good character. And they evaluate characters the same way they would evaluate a friend or maybe even employee - their favourite character should be morally flawless, don't make mistakes, be on the right side. It also usually goes with thinking themselves always right ("Why does he do this thing? It's stupid, I would never...") In my opinion it is most characteristic for young males. That's my honest impression. |
| Slaine pretty much went full villain in this episode.....I didn't wan't him to go down this route but like he said at the end, there's no going back now...I'd like it for neither he or Inaho to die but sadly we all know that this won't happen :( Slaine's pretty much fucked now....His only bet now is to somehow get redemption before he dies The reunion between Seylum, Slaine and Ritto was sweet and made me reminisce of how things were between them before all the shit happened. Sucks that she doesn't have her full memory but at least she remembers things.....I hope that they don't have her be kept in the dark too long. I'd prefer if she found out in the next episode I don't feel bad for the Fake Princess at all....I kinda want her to get all angry and go psycho as well so that someone will kill her off....It'd be ironic if she is the one that kills Slaine lol...Either way I hate her a lot (The fanservice tho lol) Glad to see that my prediction of Slaine giving the Vers Cunt's mech to his sidekick was spot on. I'm looking forward to seeing the modifications he makes to it :D The part with the Vers guy that Inaho saved was interesting and I did not expect him to actually concede and don't question anything lol. But still my gut is telling me that he's still gonna go against Vers, just covertly. Big battle next episode and I am PUMPED to see it....Slaine got the Orbital Knights to get their shit together and pretty much obey his every command and respect him (Which impressed the heck out of me). Now that they're also using smart strategies, tactics and are really bringing on the heat with this overwhelming fleet, things should be VERY interesting from here |
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Savethebestforu said: Sorry for possibly starting a flame war, but tell me again why Slaine isn't unanimously considered the best character in this show? Without him the plot would be nothing. He's the most polarizing character that I can remember in recent history, and his haters are the most passionate people I have ever seen on the internet. I just can't see any other character that can stand up to him in this show. In4 people call him a yandere immoral murderer, as if morality determines a character's worth. Isn't this a given though, without the deuteragonist or antagonist there wouldn't be a point to having a protagonist. It isn't that he's disliked from a narrative pov, his actions/motives are the ones that are disliked. Even Darklight agreed that it was smart for him to keep Asseylum in the dark about what's going on, those actions are still going to bite him in the ass later. |
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Viktor_Otaku said: I mean just look at how the end of the episode was directed. Not just the flowers, but at Slaine's expressions and tone while he so aggressively moves forward with his plans to wipe out the Terrans. Does he not seem at least a little flustered? Like I said it could be a subconscious feeling of bitterness, but the direction is telling us that it is there.AlexTheRiot said: When the direction is basically telling you that it is this way, it kinda seems delusional to still insist there are other ways to perceive it. Right, unless there is a scientific research that states that "dropping flowers = jealously" then I prefer to maintain a neutral pov. |
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Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Because all of that really can help against future sight and supernatural speed. Uhmhmm, and I suppose a super computer brain teenager doing it with a mechanical eye seems plausible to you right ? We're not discussing what is plausible. We are discussing power balance. Slaine used a shotgun to destroy a feather on the ground. That is how unbalanced that so called fight was. he was never in danger. That's what makes it not a fight. |
Tohka_Yatogami said: Really???Asseylum is finally back and remembers Slaine. |
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kymano said: Darklight0303 said: Against a machine that can predict the future, the base was as good as defenseless. Then what chances where there for Inaho? Clearly he had trouble depicting if Slaine was using predictions or not and almost got caught in Slaine's trap. Inaho is skillful way of planning out battles but Slaine is sneaky and will always slip his way through to victory. Inaho has managed to discover ways to deal with mechs on the fly. He needs data and to observe the mech in action. That's all he requires to come up with couter tactics. |
Symqn said: was hoping she would said Inahos name when she woke up because FUCK YOU SLAIN. Jaja, that would be amusing. |
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