ex_necross said:fanshii said:ex_necross said:
Also the people calling that little slut who exposes herself to some guy she just met and seduces him the "best girl" are really, really pathetic people.
The direct and boring 'hurr durr shes nekkid lol!!1' fanservice aside;
I fail to see what's wrong with women who are free with their sexuality?
Although the scene seem bad, mostly because of the childish fanservice. There are a lot of people, straight and not alike, men and not, who have onenight-stands and calling them 'sluts' would just be insults. It's just that they're adults and here you're forced to watch an awkward fanservice.
The problem is that the main guy was clearly uncomfortable, so she should back off, and not that she 'seduces the guy she just met'
Yes there is clearly something wrong with a woman (or man) like the "fanservice" girl in this episode.
More specifically, kids.
Even more specifically, people enjoying this otaku garbage.
Well, you know, nobody is forcing to watch, you know. ;-)
I'm always pretty amazed people STILL fall over these kind of tropes. Yes, it's ecchi, and it's done on purpose. It's also in 90% of the anime out there, so if you have a problem with it, you got a problem with the majority of anime. And almost ALL anime characters look like kids, that's one of the defining differences with Western cartoons. Also... it just doesn't make sense always fretting about how it is 'wrong'. It's not wrong, it's anime: it's nothing that is r/l. It's like with the wincest of Kill la kill; there too puritan nutcases were complaining; "how can one like it? It's immoral!" No, it's not, because the immorality comes forth of actual examples, while this is only a presentation which can be interpreted however one wants. You see two women with all the right curves, and you think it's hot. "Oh, but they're mother and child, how wrong and vile of me to think that!" "Oh wait, they say they aren't! It's back hot again!" "Oh no, they now said it was a lie: it's back to being otaku garbage!" Ad infinitum. The same with this scene. "They are kids". So: kids don't get sexual before they turn 18? But more importantly: the fact that they 'are kids' is an illusion on itself. They are just drawings, to which you give a certain meaning. You feel uncomfortable watching it, because they 'are' minors? Well, what if in the next episode they say they've been redoing the same schoolyear 3 times and are over 18: are you now suddenly comfortable? It's the same scene, though, nothing really changed except your subjective perception about it. In fact, it might quite well be that Kazumi is 18+: she only *pretends* to be a high school girl, after all. In reality, she has been in the lab for years, and hacked her way into the school, with a false identity. So, you see, all that 'uncomfortableness' is merely your own thoughts about it, nothing that is actually there as a r/l example.
You should have learned by now that with anime, it's best not to overthink things: what you see are moving pictures, nothing more, nothing less. The only way to look at it without falling into the 'ad infinitum' trap, is 'just' watching it from the standpoint of what is shown, without interpretative context. Meaning: if you only saw that scene, is there anything wrong with it, knowing the visual style of anime, and the classical tropes of anime (including nudity, ecchi, sis/bro complex, etc.) And then, one realises that, if you see women with the right curvatures seeing/making a move, it's quite hot, just like any explicit picture of that is hot. (If not, regular porn and hentai wouldn't be as popular.) People who don't make the distinction between reality and anime, that's where the true problem lays, imho. Granted, sometimes that are Otaku, but seen the many moral-vigilantes reactions, a lot are clearly not.
To the former poster: I'm not sure what you are trying to argue. Certainly, there is nothing inherently wrong with one-night-stands and sluts, if you're into that. But that doesn't mean a slut isn't a slut anymore. And bedding the first man you happen to encounter that day, is slutty behaviour, however you look at it. It's true that could apply to men as well, if they are on the receiving end of the...ermm...stick. But all this doesn't change the fact that a slut is a slut, if she/he follows the dictionary definition of a slut.
The appreciation of a slut is greatly subjective and differs from individual to individual, and also, of course, from society to society. That said, considering the situation from the context of a long-term relationship, a slut is next to worthless, that's true. In the context of a one-night-stand, it could be quite good. |