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| That goat is the real culprit! :o |
| maybe they won't keep the pukuku since Maria's laugh in the anime isn't kihihihihihihi |
| The first Tea Party was funny as hell when that goat tried to stuff Maria's laughing head into Rosa's mouth. I lol'd so hard. Both of the tea parties felt so rushed like someone was pressing ctrl when reading the novel or the fastforward button. But this was the most entertaining episode for me thus far. Anyway, onwards with arguably the best arc of the series. Hopefully DEEN won't screw it up. |
z-pakSep 12, 2009 1:18 PM
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zeroryoko1974 said: Great epiosde, I was laughing almost through the whole thing. Beatrice is hilarous. So Battler wants to give Maria a little mouth lovin when she gets older lol. Best line ever  Some great Maria faces as well     Maria's faces are creepier each episode o.O This episode was better then the last one. The last one felt super slow with no development at all. I can't wait for the next ep, and I want to see the "new" opening. (Beatrice's portrait will be different). |
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| D: Ew, the dinner was so freakin repulsive. But the Rosa/Maria scene was sweet. Made me teary-eyed a little. And is it just me or does Lambdadelta look a lot like Takano? xD (I won't risk saying that they're the same person and being shot by the VN fans. I'm stilll not sure about Bernkastel/Rika. I've seen many different opinions on that and haven't played the game, so...) Damn, Battler. Haha. You want to eat Maria? The 'cow tits' line was priceless xD I like him a whole lot more now. |
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hirahira said: For anyone who is interested, here is the ???? from the game and the Tea Party And here's how the Rosa-Musou scene happened in the game You guys should check out all the Umineko videos from this user: http://www.youtube.com/user/hitomi04 aww, Bern's nipah was cute <3 |
Melo-chan said: hirahira said: For anyone who is interested, here is the ???? from the game and the Tea Party And here's how the Rosa-Musou scene happened in the game You guys should check out all the Umineko videos from this user: http://www.youtube.com/user/hitomi04 aww, Bern's nipah was cute <3 Wow!! I didn't know the game was translated to English!! Which episode was translated? Episode "Criru" was already toranslated? |
| The first 4 question arcs have been translated. Umineko Chiru should be translated by November, I think. |
hirahira said: The first 4 question arcs have been translated. Umineko Chiru should be translated by November, I think. Meanwhile, at Witch Hunt... Episode 5: End of the Golden Witch * Translation: 5% * Editing: 2% X_x |
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| Shit this episode grossed me out when Battler was naked and then pulled apart limb by limb T^T But YAY for Dread of the Grave playing~ In the end Battler was still being a perv, but funny xD "Slice up those cow tits of yours and make me a sandwich." lawl. "Maria, it's 10 years too early for you to tell someone to eat you. But make sure you tell me that 10 years from now okay?" I'm sure we all know what that meant. Seeing Rosa having to eat all that shit..I'd throw up on the spot. The VN is actually quite scary and twisted :/ From the videos I've watched anyways. Don't watch them in the dark. Seriously. |
StarPebblitSep 13, 2009 11:54 AM
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| In other news. Jessica has Kanon George has Shannon So who do they want to end up with Battler?  That's the cover of the first DVD. Foe Yay at it's greatest. |
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kaena said: hmm this is just a random question but is Episode 5 not the last game for Umineko?? are there more games coming out?? Supposedly 3 more, and that should be it. |
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| ^Unless he makes a 4.5 like Higurashi Rei :) |
garfield15 said: So who do they want to end up with Battler? That's the cover of the first DVD. Foe Yay at it's greatest. I think that should be pretty obvious. :D Can't wait for the DVD so I can get a better scan of that picture. So going to be my next profile pic. |
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| this episode is interesting. :] 5/5 |
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kaena said: hmm this is just a random question but is Episode 5 not the last game for Umineko?? are there more games coming out?? I think episode 5 is the last Umineko-game... since |
bwahahachick said: Battler's lines completely threw me off with lulz. "Maria, it's ten years too early for you to tell someone to eat you. But make sure you tell me that ten years from now, okay?" lmao forever. lol tell me about it, I had to watch it again to catch it. When it came on the screen I was so in awe I couldn't believe Battler was saying that lol Battler naked wasn't that bad either >.> |
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| This is getting weird, one minute he gave up then he is revived... Didnt he already surrender.... I was expecting more from this anime, but it looks like you wont know what is going on unless you played the VN (which i haven't) I cant even read comments because everyone is posting videos, pictures or just commenting schenes from the VN... |
| Those videos aren't spoilers. Just scenes that were in the anime. At this point in the VN, you'd still be confused. You might be less confused, but still mostly confused. Regarding the previous post. The terms Meta and Piece Battler are fan terms. It's not like the VN explains that. It doesn't. Fans came up with those terms on their own. The VN never says "Hey, there's two different Battlers. This one is Piece and this one is Meta. They aren't the same." Instead it makes it obvious that there's two different Battlers. One that frequently speaks with Beatrice and the other that doesn't meet Beatrice until the end. |
LunarEmeraldSep 15, 2009 6:01 PM
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| Doesn't this episode throw into question if there really are two different Battlers, since Meta Battler interacted with the pieces in this game world? Wasn't that something that only piece Battler should do? |
| How do we know that takes place in the meta world? It looked like the game world to me, since Rosa had not yet died, and the visual cues for the meta world (black and white) weren't there. |
noteDhero said: How do we know that takes place in the meta world? It looked like the game world to me, since Rosa had not yet died, and the visual cues for the meta world (black and white) weren't there. The setting doesn't really determine if it's Meta or not. In episode 5, Beatrice didn't show herself until everyone died and that was in the Meta World. Shannon was alive when we clearly saw her dead. At the end of the Rosa goat scene in the VN, the text "When the seagulls cry, there are no survivors" appears, further implying that Maria and Rosa were killed. |
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MarthX said: The setting doesn't really determine if it's Meta or not. In episode 5, Beatrice didn't show herself until everyone died and that was in the Meta World. Shannon was alive when we clearly saw her dead. At the end of the Rosa goat scene in the VN, the text "When the seagulls cry, there are no survivors" appears, further implying that Maria and Rosa were killed. It would have been nice to have been shown that Rosa had died. I just assumed that it was the Beatrice on that game board in the dress. As someone unfamiliar with the VN, I had no reason to know that Rosa had already died. kaena said: dude Maria's HEAD was talking do you think that takes place in teh real world??? besides, battler had already been killed by the goats which means the one in the cannibal food scene is meta battler, which means its the meta world Kanon was talking and interacting with Genji and the servants earlier in the game, so that's not a good reason. Magic is supposed to exist, so I wrote it off as another of those dumb moments. Since I was given no clear cues that we were in the Meta world, I thought we were still on the game board. The director skipped over the moments that would have allowed the viewer to know we were at the tea party. |
kaena said: yes they shouldve made it more obvious that it shifted to teh meta world. ive talked to many ppl who just dont take it as a given that they were still on teh game board. the Kanon talking to Genji and the otehrs earlier was not Kanon. it was a servant of Beatrice. it is basically the same as one of the goats with a Kanon face. So why wouldn't I think it was something along the same lines here since I already saw Maria die, and Rosa unharmed. The point is that it's a major plot hole. I probably should haver remembered Psych's post before saying it again. HypnoInsanity said: It would probably cause plot holes if they actually showed them being killed. It was heavily implied, but it says "missing" in the VN, same for the first game ending. It's a bigger plothole to not address the death of the most suspicious character in the series. |
| What's the point you're trying to make? Basically, nothing happened in the same manner as the first arc, and since there were no cues to the viewer, not even Rosa's death, how were the uninformed to know that Rosa had died and we were in the meta world? It's a non-existent transition which is very bad considering the show is dependent on them so much. I'm saying that since I saw a fake Kanon during the game, I figured the same thing was happening with Maria. At that point, what did I have to go off of that we were in the Meta world? Nothing. There were no indications that a transition had been made. |
| This is what they state about Rosa's and Maria's fate at the end of EP2 in the TIPS. It might be helpful. |
| The VN doesn't show Rosa or Maria dying either. I see a lot of VN readers mistake that it does. It doesn't. They're surrounded and supposedly attacked then the screen cuts to "When the seagulls cry, there are no survivors" It doesn't show them being eaten like it did for Kinzo and Battler. The VN doesn't show Genji dying either. It doesn't even show him being attacked. After he introduces Beatrice to the Banquet, you never hear from him again for the rest of the Episode. I have no doubt that the Tea Party took place in the Meta World. Even though there's no solid proof that it did. |
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Is guesswork possible or impossible in Umineko no Naku Koro ni? The genre of this work is probably a serial murder mystery. However, that does not guarantee that reasoning and guesswork are possible. Those who enjoy stupid puzzles that are made to be solved can leave now. Umineko no Naku Koro ni is the worst kind of tale, created without any intention of letting all of you solve it. However, to all of the worst kinds of people, who hear that and just want to challenge it more, welcome. I am myself sending out this tale to make these worst kinds of people surrender. No matter what kinds of strange events occur, all of you will try to explain it with humans and tricks, and deny all mysteries, as the worst kind of human supremacists. Please, try to explain each one of the many baffling cases with humans and tricks as best you can. I want to see how far I can penetrate everyone's human supremacy. The culprit is a witch. All alibis and tricks are magic. This is not a mystery, but fantasy! I want to see you surrender and say that while crying bitter tears. I do not expect a line of reasoning leading to the truth to appear. I want to find out just how many people can deny the witch until the very end and maintain a 'human culprit theory'. In short, this is a tale of a battle between humans and witches. Serial Murder Illusions, "Umineko no Naku koro ni" This is a sound novel without choices, where you search for the truth yourself. Is guesswork possible, or impossible? Will you surrender to the witch, or stand up and face her? How you enjoy it is up to you. |
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| So pretentious. |
noteDhero said: So pretentious. Yeah, Beatrice is kind of a Large Ham. Pretty sure the TIPS in the novel say Genji was eaten as well... but no scene indeed. |
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