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Aug 6, 2009 10:44 AM

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Perhaps, it was better for Tomoya to ignore Nagisa at the very beginning if tragedies await..

Aug 6, 2009 6:55 PM
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Tabrisrp said:
You're looking at it with the wrong angle. Ushio was going to die anyway, sooner or later, and Tomoya knew that deep in himself..


I do not believe anyone knew that. I do not believe that Tomoya did enough to see if Ushio could be saved.


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After loosing Nagisa, he could not bear to loose someone else so dear for him, and so he decided to take the only last chance ...You can't blame him, everything else failed before, he just didn't know what to do.


Well, who *is* to blame? There is enough to go around. Ushio grandparents should have NEVER left Tomoya alone. Tomoya's famiy was clearly dyfunctional but that does not excuse, it only explains.

And I am sure part my reaction is cultural. I do not pretend to understand or even agree 100% with the Japanese way of seeing thing - any more than I agree 100% with my own sexist and racism culture (Texan).

but MADE ME MAD...and still does. I hate it.

Your mileage will vary.
Aug 18, 2009 3:36 PM

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And this is why Tomoya should have married Kotomi, Tomoyo or Kyou!
Aug 29, 2009 5:47 PM

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The ending is really annoying, it ruins the mood, they should put a happy scene before the ending or do a special ending
Sep 7, 2009 6:52 PM

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WTF OH NO THEY DID NOT JUST GO THERE
EVERYONE DIED NOOOO BULLSHIT MOTHERFUCKER WOW

FIRST OF ALL, YOU DON'T GO OUT WITH YOUR DAUGHTER WHO'S BEEN SICK FOR MONTHS IN A SNOWY DAY. WOW RIDICULOUS MOTHERFUCKER

I'm ranting because I'm sad. :(
Sep 14, 2009 1:18 PM
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When Nagisa died, I kinda knew it would happen...

But THIS...! Was genuine sadness...

I haven't felt true sadness from both series yet until now!

Each Key series had at least a couple of them. Air was in episode 7, 10, and 12. Kanon was in ep 9, 22 and one more, can't remember which ep...

While I still don't consider Clannad to be best out of the bunch, I will give credit to how After Story cleaned up it's act, and got to be the Key story it was supposed to be all along!
Sep 19, 2009 6:56 PM

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The producers are the cruelest people ever.
I'd do ANYTHING to bring back Nagisa and Ushio this very moment.

COME ON! AS IF IT'S NOT ENOUGH THAT UR WIFE'S DEAD, NOW UR DAUGHTER IS TOO!

WHO CAN TAKE THAT MUCH?!

Tomoya would just commit suicide. All big dango family dead. Sadly never after. THE END.

Though i doubt Akio and Sanae would follow..
Sep 26, 2009 12:05 AM

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God shit damn fucking hell
I can't fucking stop crying, damn it
<('-'<) <( '-' )> (>'-')>
Oct 20, 2009 2:43 PM
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Noooo!!! What happened to Clannad???
Why everyone need to die? >.<
Oct 30, 2009 2:40 AM

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The only reason I didn't cry during this episode because I don't have any tears left from the past two episodes. Come on Ushio...
Nov 11, 2009 8:43 AM

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Ahhh... *sob*
P-poor Tomoya...
Dec 22, 2009 6:02 PM

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Ah shit.... I need another tissue.
Dec 26, 2009 7:55 PM

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wait ... so.. Ushio died?:(
LET JUSTICE BE DONE; THOUGH THE HEAVENS MAY FALL
Jan 8, 2010 5:43 PM

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Another great ep.

I feel a metaphorical death and reuniting coming. If it does, I WILL end up crying over it. Just about held it in since Nagisa died (wished I'd not seen the movie first now), but that would just be too much.

Will HAVE to dig up the game from somewhere.
Jan 18, 2010 3:32 AM
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I sincerely hated this goddamn episode to bits. :|
It was Tomoya's fault! Like it was very obvious Ushio could not walk and Tomoya just watched as she staggered. As it started to snow I thought, "ok, be a dad, stop listening to your dumb kid, pick her up and bring her home, it's starting to freaking snow!" So no, I didn't cry at all, I was too frustrated.
Jan 19, 2010 1:18 AM
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"Clannad ~After Story~": We here to fuck with your emotions and junk.
Man, even if it is anime... it's hard to watch. Good. But hard to watch.
Jan 27, 2010 2:10 PM

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i saw that coming from miles away -_-

but seriously...wtf kind-of f*cked up writers thought that there would be cool to kill 2 of the main characters???

imagine how Tomoya feels...His last ray of hope,Ushio...is gone,wtf will he do?

i'm seriously looking forward for a happy ending with some parallel universe bullsh*t where everyone lives happily ever after or atleast maybe some miracle happens and ushio will come back to life

either way,this damn series will be stuck in my head forever :)

PS:i also think that i can confirm that the robot is ushio now,right after she...you know *sigh*,the image changed right on the robot helping the misterious girl(nagisa)
i still don't have a clue wth is going on that world,but i have the feeling i will now by tomorrow :)
also...i don't get why they did replay the first scene from the first episode(even if tomoya's words were different)...another universe somebody?or is it just random tomoya immagination bullcr*p!?

ohwell,looking forward to the 22nd episode
Sayonara,papa!


"Just how a mirror reflects you,people will also reflect your heart."
~Athena Glory,Aria

"Whatever happens,happens"
~Spike Spiegel's thoughts on dying(Cowboy Bebop)
Feb 10, 2010 10:54 AM
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Tomoya really has gone through A LOT. I hope he can find happiness. :|
Mar 19, 2010 7:21 PM

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HOLY FUCK
The creators of this are cruel, cruel people. If this doesn't end happily I am actually going to cry. I mean I teared up when Nagisa died, but I'm going to openly weep if the final episode continues this train wreck.
Apr 14, 2010 4:43 PM

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Moonfrost said:
WTF OH NO THEY DID NOT JUST GO THERE
EVERYONE DIED NOOOO BULLSHIT MOTHERFUCKER WOW

FIRST OF ALL, YOU DON'T GO OUT WITH YOUR DAUGHTER WHO'S BEEN SICK FOR MONTHS IN A SNOWY DAY. WOW RIDICULOUS MOTHERFUCKER

I'm ranting because I'm sad. :(


This.
Stupid motherfucker. ( Tomoya )
Apr 29, 2010 8:56 AM

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this is the most depressing episode in both seasons....what the hell :(,i can't belive i cried for a second time...this anime really knows how to make men cry ;'(


so...Ushio dies...what more can i say actually :(

5/5 but really...god damn i hate this episode lol :(
Sayonara,papa!


"Just how a mirror reflects you,people will also reflect your heart."
~Athena Glory,Aria

"Whatever happens,happens"
~Spike Spiegel's thoughts on dying(Cowboy Bebop)
May 2, 2010 12:22 PM

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You have got to be fucking tripping me.
May 8, 2010 4:17 PM
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NO!
THIS DOESN'T NEED TO BE HAPPENING!!!
This is like the worst case possible for a family in development. This drama is just too much.

I dislike how fast everything is going. She's only a child her sickness shouldn't be this bad already. 1 whole episode which took years for Nagisa!
May 14, 2010 4:25 AM

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aw c'mon! Nonononononononononono!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ushio dont die!!!!!!!!!!!
Jun 3, 2010 12:19 PM

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The End of the World is a good title I guess.
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Jul 11, 2010 8:39 PM
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T^T another one of these episodes
Jul 13, 2010 6:05 PM

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I cannot believe this.
Why, just why. =(
I dont know whether to give this episode a "loved it" rating, dont get me wrong it was really powerful but just so so sad.
Aug 6, 2010 1:32 PM

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really?!!? talk about overkill. If this ends with all this sadness i'm gonna be pissed off.

god... what an emotional roller coaster... it's too much.
Aug 15, 2010 8:44 AM

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Well...I don't know what to say...the first season made me cry..I'm man enough to admit...but second season was like it intended to keep me sad all the times... I cried quitte alot at this season...and same at the part with Ushio diying ...I cried...What did Tomoya do to deserve such a harsh punishment? I simpley cannot understand why does he have to suffer so much...Nagisa died...now Ushio too...Is too heartbreaking...
I still hope some miracle will happen in the end and we will have a happy ending...
I WANT a happy ending for Tomoya T_T
Aug 27, 2010 9:55 PM
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Yoshino is a true bro. (blue haired bros forever Yoshino and Okazaki)

What the hell with Ushio? Is this for real? They can't do that....there gonna give us miracle just like Akio and baby Nagisa back in the day.

Though he really should'nt have taken her but I feel like she knew she wasn't going to get better. Had that whole Make a Wish Foundation feel. Damn man....
Sep 6, 2010 1:30 PM

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cyruz said:
I never imagined that they would go for an ending like this. T_____T
I hope that maybe Ushio will be saved somehow. Before this episode I was kinda hoping for Nagisa's return but I guess that won't happen. Oh Clannad.


...T______T
Oct 22, 2010 6:54 PM

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Well for me this ep wasn't bad made, the thing is that in the firts season the stories they counted made me cry but I also cried for happiness, in this season is all sadness, I can't really believe Nagisa is dead and now they kill Ushio?!
Jan 12, 2011 12:24 AM

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Tomoyo has got to be the character who has suffered the most pain out of all anime characters. I cried so much...
Jan 22, 2011 1:19 PM

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Ushio? Ushio..USHIO!!!!
.... Nooo I dont want this.. T_T
Feb 18, 2011 6:38 PM

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I can't take much more. Tomoya...OMG!! He had an awful life growing up, he lost his wife...and now his daughter. I'm surprised that he hasn't tried to take his own life. I think I probably would have if I were in his shoes.

Tomoya doesn't deserve this.

*crying hysterically again*
Feb 28, 2011 8:49 AM

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soo sad of an episode, but i didnt cry for some reason, barely got wet eyes when ushio died, no idea why.

tomoya's life is just not fair.
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Mar 2, 2011 8:10 AM

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I groped my hair when Ushio died. It's sad :(

But if I were Tomoya, I will never risk Ushio's life on a trip when there are many chances

to go but yeah, I understand why he granted her daughter's wish.

Much same with Ushio, she maybe is just a child but I think she understood what's her situation

and wanted to have her one last happy memory with her father.

I really don't know where will this story go.
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Mar 27, 2011 11:47 AM
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Hmm, well it's interesting watching an anime that can be so cruel to its viewers :P
But still D':
Apr 19, 2011 7:47 PM
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This ending really did remind me of Air Tv.
But, OMFrigginGosh <=*(
It had me bawling.
Tomoya did not deserve this! Just when he finally changes and starts moving on, living his life for his daughter, and understanding that she is who he is meant to live for, bam. He loses her.
The minute she collapsed, I felt my heart break.
I just wanted to hug Tomoya unconditionalliy, right then and there.
And then there was the girl in the other world...
Like how many sad things must happen in one episode??

But there was that orb that went inside of him just a couple of episodes back,so hopefully there may be hope of a happy ending.

Apr 19, 2011 10:25 PM

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What? Why? Seriously why? I get that the town is connected to Nagisa/Ushio and that the desolated world in the other dimension is a metaphor for Ushio's vitality or something along those lines, but don't make it all happen again. It's no longer sad or powerful, it's just becoming way too depressing...
Apr 21, 2011 7:07 PM

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Are you fucking kidding me? First your wife and now your daughter?

I kill myself if that happend to me, serously...
Apr 26, 2011 2:21 AM

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Jrittmayer said:
And this is why Tomoya should have married Kotomi, Tomoyo or Kyou!
Or Ryou.

Honestly, I had no qualms about the dub this episode. Still touching and everything.
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May 11, 2011 3:18 PM

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Suprisingly i didn't cry! but it's super sad that Ushio died! why?! it's not fair!!! Poor Tomoya... his life jus keeps getting ruined! stupid Ushio why'd she say the had 2 go then?! if they didn't maybe she would still be alive!!! maybe it would have been better if Fuko stole her that time... hehe jk... still sad epi... nothing funny about it... i wonder whats gonna happen next!
Jun 3, 2011 10:38 AM

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Argh! No way, not Ushio too?

I wont believe she's dead just yet, next epsode will give me hope...

Right?

Right?
Jun 9, 2011 5:39 AM
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This was incredibly sad and I felt really bad for Tomoya, to the point of tearing up a bit. What kept me from bawling was how ridiculous that last scene with Ushio was. Why did she want to keep walking so bad? Any reason at all she wanted to take another trip to that place? The only reason I may think of is that she wanted to die at a place that made her happy. But seriously, that's not something a 5 year-old would think. I'm still hoping she isn't dead and I hope some explanation is given about what happened now.

About the parallel world... I still have a lot to think about it. For now it seems to be mirroring Ushio's vitality. As for the reason to such connection, that's still unclear.
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What kept me from bawling was how ridiculous that last scene with Ushio was. Why did she want to keep walking so bad? Any reason at all she wanted to take another trip to that place? The only reason I may think of is that she wanted to die at a place that made her happy. But seriously, that's not something a 5 year-old would think.
Actually it may be a little unrealistic for a little child but let's put it like this, shall we? Ushio had realized that she would die soon. The previous trip with her father was the happiest event in her entire life. Therefore she insisted to go on the trip while she could walk. The reason she insisted to walk by herself may have come from her strong will. She always insisted to do things by herself saying like "I can do it myself". It may have come from the fact that her parents hadn't been with her for a long time and she had to behave like adults. She just wanted to walk/live without any help as far as she can to the very last moment. Anyway, from the viewpoint of reality, it's within a permissible range compared to ... (spoiler)
Jul 11, 2011 5:50 PM

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kikoushi said:
One of the worst directed episodes of Clannad, i didn't like this episode at all, it was supposed to be all tear-jerking and saddening etc... but instead i found it utterly ridiculous. Now i hope Tomoya dies in the last episode and i will remember this season with disappointment...


lol, this.

Good job killing your own daughter Tomoya, I hope the trip was worth it.
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kikoushi said:
One of the worst directed episodes of Clannad, i didn't like this episode at all, it was supposed to be all tear-jerking and saddening etc... but instead i found it utterly ridiculous. Now i hope Tomoya dies in the last episode and i will remember this season with disappointment...


lol, this.

Good job killing your own daughter Tomoya, I hope the trip was worth it.
tomoya's already dead though, he died at the end of this episode alogn with ushio :/
Jul 11, 2011 6:26 PM

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ItsSoPringles said:
tomoya's already dead though, he died at the end of this episode alogn with ushio :/


You mean he's dead inside?
Jul 11, 2011 6:40 PM
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HydraA said:
ItsSoPringles said:
tomoya's already dead though, he died at the end of this episode alogn with ushio :/


You mean he's dead inside?
no i mean hes legitmently dead,

the next episodes the finale in the illusionary world, then theres 2 ova's after that,
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