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darazu_wa said: Liinah said: Why the hell didn't Hinata warn Kousaka? And one of the three new diary owners looks like that girl from episode 4 that was raped, forgot her name. It's not a big spoiler, but she's the same person ;D Congratulations on getting that one :) Woow, is that so? She looks more mature and prettier now. <3 Thanks for telling me. ^o^ |
darazu_wa said: Liinah said: Why the hell didn't Hinata warn Kousaka? And one of the three new diary owners looks like that girl from episode 4 that was raped, forgot her name. It's not a big spoiler, but she's the same person ;D Congratulations on getting that one :) what? no she's not, 6th is dead. Unless you are talking about someone else but i dont remember anyone else that was raped. |
| Finally Yukii grew a pair. Can we assume Yuno was gonna rape Yukii if they stayed in that room?! There is no way he would be a willing participant an I would hate him even more if he was, knowing full well she is psycho. Seriously, consciously altering your own memories?! Definitely not the fun type of "crazy". I'm not sure i like the idea of "apprentice" diary owners it's a deus ex machina situation from left field (lol Deus) |
| I friggin lol'd so hard when the dude took an arrow to the knee. I was like LOOOL seriously? XD Good ep, its getting a lot more interesting now. |
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darazu_wa said: Liinah said: Why the hell didn't Hinata warn Kousaka? And one of the three new diary owners looks like that girl from episode 4 that was raped, forgot her name. It's not a big spoiler, but she's the same person ;D Congratulations on getting that one :) Sixth was the one that was raped and she's been dead since episode 5. You're probably thinking of these two. |
| still like the pacing so far, yuki's reaction to gasai when freed was better in the manga though |
Zeppelin said: darazu_wa said: Liinah said: Why the hell didn't Hinata warn Kousaka? And one of the three new diary owners looks like that girl from episode 4 that was raped, forgot her name. It's not a big spoiler, but she's the same person ;D Congratulations on getting that one :) Sixth was the one that was raped and she's been dead since episode 5. You're probably thinking of these two. Yeah the one in the first pic looks like it to me that is helping 8th. So I guess she found a new purpose? |
| What the Hell with that big headed characters....... >.> Btw this episode was good cuz' Yukiteru finally said the words "go die, bitch!" to Yuno.... 4/5 |
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| Honestly, for me, the action is kind of dying down and getting somewhat boring. What the hell is wrong with Yuno, getting all crazy like that jeez. Oh well.. Hoping for more action in the next episodes. 8th I think? Looks super fake? Lol, is she a real person or like in a costume |
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| I came here just for the arrow in the knee jokes. "Oh, so your powers of prediction are awakening already". Lol'd so hard. |
| Yuno really is frickin batshit insane. |
| Terrible episode. -Yuno understanding how to perfectly use a 12 computer security system that should have a password IF it was left intact like that. There's leeway for what Yuno can do because of the dairies, but they do not grant the impossible. -Yuno deciding to drug Yukki on a public bench instead of somewhere private. If she's smart enough to set up and control a "fortress" that even trained police officers would likely die to trying to infiltrate she's smart enough to not do something stupid like that. -EXTREMELY convenient and unlikely scenario where Kousaka pulls a dairy out of his ass -Yuno surprised about Kousaka coming in through the vent even though she has two diaries -Yukki escaping the chair because "Yuno can't predict Hinata's actions with her own dairy" when in reality she had Yukki's diary too 1/5 being generous. |
Fuuchouin said: Terrible episode. -Yuno understanding how to perfectly use a 12 computer security system that should have a password IF it was left intact like that. There's leeway for what Yuno can do because of the dairies, but they do not grant the impossible. You clearly missed the point that the whole building was of the gasai family. i wont even discuss the other points because they are as wrong as this one, except for the second point which isnt the big deal. |
Vanisher said: i wont even discuss the other points because they are as wrong as this one, except for the second point which isnt the big deal. Irrelevant; the building was abandoned. You're wrong about me being wrong. I won't be discussing any other points with you either because you suffer from fanboyism which impedes critical thinking. |
Fuuchouin said: Vanisher said: i wont even discuss the other points because they are as wrong as this one, except for the second point which isnt the big deal. Irrelevant; the building was abandoned. You're wrong about me being wrong. I won't be discussing any other points with you either because you suffer from fanboyism which impedes critical thinking. What it being abandoned has to do with anything? if it had a password she would knew it. And i have a lot things to criticize about mirai nikki, but those you say are just wrong. |
Vanisher said: What it being abandoned has to do with anything? if it had a password she would knew it. False. There's no chance a 14 year old would know the password to large-scale intricate security system; it's not something a father tells his child, and if she was able to guess it then it's unrealistic because no competent security team would have a password related TO the family that runs the hotel; that's as bad as opening the doors for hackers. Important passwords are typically long hashes of several numbers, letters, and symbols. This is to prevent brute force attacks, and even high school level system administrators know this. Vanisher said: And i have a lot things to criticize about mirai nikki, but those you say are just wrong. Statement without evidence. Your words are meaningless unless you can prove them. |
Fuuchouin said: Vanisher said: What it being abandoned has to do with anything? if it had a password she would knew it. False. There's no chance a 14 year old would know the password to large-scale intricate security system; it's not something a father tells his child, and if she was able to guess it then it's unrealistic because no competent security team would have a password related TO the family that runs the hotel; that's as bad as opening the doors for hackers. Important passwords are typically long hashes of several numbers, letters, and symbols. This is to prevent brute force attacks, and even high school level system administrators know this. Vanisher said: And i have a lot things to criticize about mirai nikki, but those you say are just wrong. Statement without evidence. Your words are meaningless unless you can prove them. There are a lot of possibilities regarding the password, first of all you know nothing about gasai family so you can't know for sure that "it's not something a father tells his child", you are impliying that it was a normal family when it was probably not. She could had heard the password or it could be something related to their parent that isn't known to the public. In fact why would the security sistem need a password if it already need that control panel key that she gave kousaka? the whole room probably also need a key. I dont need to prove to you that im not a fanboy that can't criticize mirai nikki. |
Vanisher said: first of all you know nothing about gasai family so you can't know for sure that "it's not something a father tells his child" Assumption without evidence. You don't assume fathers tell important security related business secrets to girls barely starting middle school, and since you're asserting this burden of proof is on you. Vanisher said: She could had heard the password or it could be something related to their parent that isn't known to the public. I'm starting to laugh. You're asserting that Yuno, assuming that her parents are dead, and being anywhere from 1-14 at the time would've on the off chance heard the correct password in the background, and memorized this information for an unknown amount of time without ever knowing what it was or why she would want/need it. Stop trying. Vanisher said: In fact why would the security sistem need a password if it already need that control panel key that she gave kousaka? the whole room probably also need a key. /facepalm Physical security, which all server rooms have, has nothing to do with network security. You're embarrassing yourself now. I'm sorry that you liked this show, and your feelings are hurt, but it's bad writing because it's full of gaping plot holes and continuity errors. |
FuuchouinJan 19, 2012 3:18 AM
Fuuchouin said: Vanisher said: first of all you know nothing about gasai family so you can't know for sure that "it's not something a father tells his child" Assumption without evidence. You don't assume fathers tell important security related business secrets to girls barely starting middle school, and since you're asserting this burden of proof is on you. Vanisher said: She could had heard the password or it could be something related to their parent that isn't known to the public. I'm starting to laugh. You're asserting that Yuno, assuming that her parents are dead, and being anywhere from 1-14 at the time would've on the off chance heard the correct password in the background, and memorized this information for an unknown amount of time without ever knowing what it was or why she would want/need it. Stop trying. Vanisher said: In fact why would the security sistem need a password if it already need that control panel key that she gave kousaka? the whole room probably also need a key. /facepalm Physical security, which all server rooms have, has nothing to do with network security. You're embarrassing yourself now. I'm sorry that you liked this show, and your feelings are hurt, but it's bad writing because it's full of gaping plot holes and continuity errors. You are also assuming they are a normal family, wait, im not assuming shit, i know it's not a normal family , you are also ignoring my point about it being something related about his parent that she knew or the password could be written somewhere, the possibilities exists. Care to explain what do you mean by network security and why should it have a password if it needs a control key panel to activate any of it functions ? Dunno why you are apologizing, you are know making the assumption that my feelings are wrong when they don't, i know this is bad written and have lot of plotholes. Yet you are wrong. |
Vanisher said: You are also assuming they are a normal family, wait, im not assuming shit You are. You're assuming that she knows the password through a variety of extremely unlikely methods. Vanisher said: you are also ignoring my point about it being something related about his parent that she knew or the password could be written somewhere, the possibilities exists. I could be Barrack Obama; the president of the United States. That doesn't make it true. Vanisher said: Care to explain what do you mean by network security and why should it have a password if it needs a control key panel to activate any of it functions ? While having a physical key secures the system from physical intruders when important systems are put on networks they must also be secured so that they can't be accessed inappropriately that way either. Even if it's just an intranet (not online) it still needs to be secured with appropriate permissions and passwords. Vanisher said: i know this is bad written and have lot of plotholes. True. Vanisher said: Yet you are wrong. Statement without evidence. Invalid. The fact that logically she wouldn't know the password doesn't even touch that, if she did, she wouldn't have the technological prowess to properly operate an intricate enterprise level security system designed for trained technical employees. Oh, and none of this even touches on the other huuuuuge plot holes in this episode. |
FuuchouinJan 19, 2012 3:43 AM
Fuuchouin said: Vanisher said: You are also assuming they are a normal family, wait, im not assuming shit You are. You're assuming that she knows the password through a variety of extremely unlikely methods. Vanisher said: you are also ignoring my point about it being something related about his parent that she knew or the password could be written somewhere, the possibilities exists. I could be Barrack Obama; the president of the United States. That doesn't make it true. Vanisher said: Care to explain what do you mean by network security and why should it have a password if it needs a control key panel to activate any of it functions ? While having a physical key secures the system from physical intruders when important systems are put on networks they must also be secured so that they can't be accessed inappropriately that way either. Even if it's just an intranet (not online) it still needs to be secured with appropriate permissions and passwords. Vanisher said: i know this is bad written and have lot of plotholes. True. Vanisher said: Yet you are wrong. Statement without evidence. Invalid. The fact that logically she wouldn't know the password doesn't even touch that, if she did, she wouldn't have the technological prowess to properly operate an intricate enterprise level security system designed for trained technical employees. You started you argument saying that it was imposible for Yuno to know the password, yet the possibility exist and its way more likely than you being obama, i dont find that unrealistic for an old man to have their password noted somewhere hidden (like in a safe), but since they are dead yuno could get to where it is. I wont argue back about the network security because i don't know that much, but since it was an abandoned hotel maybe it was old and wasn't consider as such an important system. |
Vanisher said: i dont find that unrealistic for an old man to have their password noted somewhere hidden (like in a safe), but since they are dead yuno could get to where it is. Hotel owners don't run security. The security team does. On the offhand chance that he even decided the password he wouldn't care enough to keep it in a safe; that would be unrealistic. Hotel owners pay people to do this for them. This job is called a System Administrator, and all large businesses and organizations generally have them including the schools you've attended. A security team feasible for running a giant hotel would consist of a System Administrator and several other employees. As I've stated earlier an enterprise level security system would likely have a randomly generated password consisting of a long string of letters, numbers, and symbols. All of the above is standard practice. If Yuno did get the password through one of your methods (overhearing it, stealing it, being told it) it would be extremely unlikely (bordering impossible, but not), and it would still be just a possibility. |
| I don't think this is the first day we know Yuno can do all sort of amazing thing with the power of her twisted love lol |
| Yukki. Good job! Despite people dissing this episode, I enjoyed it. |
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| I don't know what to except anymore, crazy stuff. |
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| The characters in this show are so fucking stupid, okay he threatens to send the police a message, why didn't he just call the police (or anyone for that matter) to help them get out of there. Also, wow brilliant plan Kousaka climb into a vent, a four year old could've thought of that a lot faster than these guys (I mean I thought Akise was supposed to be smart, he's been awfully dumb lately) and Yuno's logic, I mean so many things wrong. I will stick around though to see why Yuno is such a headcase. |
EOTWJan 20, 2012 11:50 AM
| Kousaka used to be awesome, then he took an arrow to the knee. Nice ep :) |
| "Go to hell." HAHAHAHA LMFAO LINE OF THE ENTIRE YEAR I hate Yuno but she's so fun to watch at the same time. Also that new diary out of nowhere was such an easy way out, I rolled my eyes. |
itsvero said: And oh my god, Yuno's voice actor is really good. Yeah, everytime she says "Yukkii" it's as if she's having an orgasm. |
| When Yukki slapped Yuno and then went and told her to go to hell and I was Yuno is just so crazy, so she had to chain up Yukki there to protect him from other diary owners huh and to get her happy end. Damn that was heartbreaking to watch Yukki do that to her tho. Poor Yuno, she just didn't understand that ofc Yukki would hate her after doing that lol. Its gunna take a lot of work to mend this relationship, wonder how she's gunna do it or if it will happen. Still love Yuno cmon go fo it. |
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| *Turns around slowly* "Go to hell." Best part. |
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Chainosaurus_rex said: The chaining and attempted murder of Yukki's friends aside, the other things have very valid reasons for happening and one could say excuses. I hope you aren't massively ignoring the fact Fourth tried to kill Yukki and Yuno, hence why Yuno freaked out and started attacking the cops.i have only two criticisms of this amazing episode, 1. what idiot sets a trap involving poison gas in a room with an air vent leading to the room that they are in? 2. why didn't Yukki STAB YUNO! she killed her own parents along with someone else long enough ago for their bodies to completely decompose, tried to kill three other people with gas, drugged him and tied him to a chair for at least a week, shot someone with a crossbow and IS A SYKO! not to mention the fact that yukki has already SHOT A POLICE OFFICER, so he shouldn't have any problems killing her! my god i truly hate her character great anime though |
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| I kind of like the anime, but I think this is sooo unrealistic. I know, I know, it's anime and it's supernatural and shit.. but seriously.. a trap involving posin gas in a room with an air vent? That dude that was turning into number 8 randomly? They didn't tie Yuno? Also: that girl who made Yuki free with the key lying on the ground. Wasn't Yuni's cell phone abou to change into: "Yukki was set free"?. She could have seen that. |
| WHAT A FUCKING PHYSCO BITCH!!!! O_______e |
| I use to be a future diary apprentice, then I got a bolt in the thigh. Lulexiaa said: WHAT A FUCKING PHYSCO BITCH!!!! O_______e That's Yuno. Isn't she just great? |
| And so this arc ends. That scene with Yukiteru abandoning Yuno was just as effective as it was in the manga. I do wonder, though, that didn't they realize problems when they changed the concrete room trap into a gas room trap, but the room had a connecting vent in it? Sure, it lets the protagonist's friends resolve the conflict, but if hypothetically they failed, then the gas would reach Yuno in her room too. Oh well, plot holes be damned, let's move on to the next arc with Mar-kun and Ai-chan, that one's interesting too. |
| Kousaka took an arrow to the should NOT KNEE hahaha. I am happy seeing Yuno getting rejected, she's way too crazy! |
| "Justice Never Dies!" - Kenji Endou, 20th century Boys |
| Why did they change those thing? I swear it was concrete in the manga, and gas won't work because the room has AIR VENTS...... Yuno is still crazy never the less, I don't like that part too much. Well, not a good main heroine if you literally try to isolate the main character from any other humans from getting in contact with him and killing them AND chain him up and doing crazy ass shit. |
| "Justice Never Dies!" - Kenji Endou, 20th century Boys |
| Finally the bitch Yuno got what she deserved. Yukiteru finally did something good. "Go to hell" yes that's where Yuno belongs. |
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Fuuchouin said: Terrible episode. -Yukki escaping the chair because "Yuno can't predict Hinata's actions with her own dairy" when in reality she had Yukki's diary too *Facepalm*. Yuno Gave To Yukki His Diary While She Was Talking With Kousaka So OF COURSE, Yuno Didn't Expect Hinata Will Do Something. Re-Watch It Again. |
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| Kousaka was amusing. 8th is as ridiculous looking as in the manga. oh and Yuno is still creepy as hell. in lol worthy news I saw a character on SWTOR the other day named Gasai'Yuno. glad my name was Yukiteru. |
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