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Jan 22, 2011 10:42 AM

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not the best show ever but it makes me lol
Jan 22, 2011 11:59 AM
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Can't help but have a smrik on my face when i watch this it's pretty entertaining and since i've seen spoilers i know that Ichika is going to get a lot better
Jan 22, 2011 12:38 PM

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Cecillia has no chance against Orimura's two childhood friends Houki & Fang.

But Houki is N1 :D

This is still a great show for me ^^
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Jan 22, 2011 1:05 PM

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What is it that keeps me coming back to these kinds of harems despite such painful moments?

Oh right... the women. *homer drool* mmmh Lin.

I am such a sucker for the chinese characters. I like her single fang^^ so cute. I've seen exposed shoulders and how I must spend my afternoon playing touhou.

Ichika has his flaws in spades, but there have been a couple moments that seem like they could be building him up for some growth. I'm holding out hope. At the very least I'll probably check out the LN's if they get translated.

Houki's still awesome. I've figured out why she keeps alternating between hot and not. Her breast size is inconsistent.

Lin's in her IS is sexy as all hell. That alone will have me back next episode lol.
Jan 22, 2011 1:07 PM

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Another fun episode, time just flew by for me. This show feels much more like a harem now than a romance, with the girls showing a lot more dere all of a sudden. Though not the kind of thing I usually do, I must say I couldn't help but imagine how nice it would be to be in Ichika's shoes. Also, although I've seen some people complain, I find IS to be quite pleasing aesthetically, from mechas to characters to surroundings - everything just feels very easy on the eyes.
Jan 22, 2011 4:04 PM

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Tenchi_Ryu said:
And why does everyone keep saying he has no balls? He's stood up to Houki each time she's thrown some Tsun at him. He even told her to look at her when he's talking to her in episode 2. This guy has bigger priorities than fucking a girl. Based on whats about to come and if the anime will follow closely to the novel, he has FAR more issues to deal with then getting his dick wet. So I applaud him.
Oh wow that is the best as pro argument in cool format that I heard. You should spoiler me more about this series, I never even knew it came at as a LN first. Point being is Ichika probably should practice more to get better, he still got issued to control his IS.

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Jan 22, 2011 4:10 PM

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Ooh, I really like Rin! Her pigtails are so cute lol XD
Also, wow at Cecilia's complete personality change O_O Harem much?! I wasn't expecting them all to like him actually ... I guess I should have expected it or something :P
Anyways, really looking forward to the next battle! I hope Rin owns XD
Jan 22, 2011 4:36 PM

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So Lin (or Rin according to the subtitles), became the third in the love triangle fight over Ichika. I kind of predicted that this would happen last week, but then again, this is a sci-fi harem anime afterall. Oh well... this show is keeping my attention so it's not all that bad.
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Jan 22, 2011 4:46 PM

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systemkrash said:
So Lin (or Rin according to the subtitles), became the third in the love triangle fight over Ichika. I kind of predicted that this would happen last week, but then again, this is a sci-fi harem anime afterall. Oh well... this show is keeping my attention so it's not all that bad.

I don't think anyone is going to give you credit for predicting that the childhood friend would become a member of the harem in a harem anime. That's like predicting that the main character will get magical powers in a mahou shoujo anime. Or that the mysterious new antisocial character with a scar and an eye patch will have some level of combat strength in a shonen action. Basically you watched episode one of Gurren Lagann, and predicted that Kamina would pilot a robot.

It's not even a matter of generic with something like that. It's to the point where if it didn't happen, this might cease to be a harem. We're talking about definitive characteristics of the genre right here.
Jan 22, 2011 5:35 PM

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so every other episode there's going to be a battle?
Jan 22, 2011 6:28 PM

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I hope so. I've been on the fence about this from day one and the combat is what brings it over the edge. If they keep the combat throughout the series I'm good. If it degenerates into its' harem aspect I don't know what would happen.
Jan 22, 2011 9:50 PM

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Tenchi_Ryu said:

And why does everyone keep saying he has no balls? He's stood up to Houki each time she's thrown some Tsun at him. He even told her to look at her when he's talking to her in episode 2. This guy has bigger priorities than fucking a girl. Based on whats about to come and if the anime will follow closely to the novel, he has FAR more issues to deal with then getting his dick wet. So I applaud him.

And at this stage, the girls are FAR from accepting the Tenchi Harem Solution, so him taking it to the next level with one girl will clearly not make the main girls, and possibly even the other 400 something happy. Just thinking of the possibility of Rin being Ichika's girlfriend had Houki and Cecilia down his throat ready to beat him. And they were just talking...imagine if they were fucking....
So don't be so hard on this 15-16 year old who's like someone said, thinking with something other than his dick.


+1 for this. Even when Ichika just flat-out drags Houki to lunch together was pretty rare in the age of spineless male leads. And remember when he demands a full explanation if he wins against Rin/Lin. If he wins, I sense Lin will have a copout somehow.

Quoth someone: Girls reads feelings and hidden meanings out loud, while men stutter as they try to understand. We probably have this hammered to our heads by clueless harem leads by now, but perhaps someone out there still hasn't gotten it; there's a grain of truth beyond every exaggeration after all.
Jan 22, 2011 11:33 PM

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Personally, I've given up on expecting people to believe in a male with concerns other than sex. I don't know why our gender has that stigma, but whatev's. If people want to believe that the only reason men make money is to attain women and they only save damsels to attain blowjobs who am I to argue. Maybe it's just some weird hormone deficiency that has me thinking odd thoughts about money being awesome for the purposes of purchasing the things I want. Madness, I know.
Jan 22, 2011 11:37 PM

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+1 for this. Even when Ichika just flat-out drags Houki to lunch together was pretty rare in the age of spineless male leads. And remember when he demands a full explanation if he wins against Rin/Lin. If he wins, I sense Lin will have a copout somehow.


His dragging Houki to lunch was in episode two, early in episode two. I give him credit for that action too but by the time ep.03 rolls around, he's lost whatever he had at that point.

In this episode, when Rin visits his room to suggest that Houki get the heck out, he responds with, "Don't put the question to me." Houki actually attacked Rin with a weapon while he was standing around being wimpy. After Rin left, Houki let him know how impressively he was behaving. "Ichika… get kicked by a horse and die!" is a pretty good way to put it.

A eunuch in a harem is useless.
Jan 22, 2011 11:57 PM

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Foton said:
+1 for this. Even when Ichika just flat-out drags Houki to lunch together was pretty rare in the age of spineless male leads. And remember when he demands a full explanation if he wins against Rin/Lin. If he wins, I sense Lin will have a copout somehow.


His dragging Houki to lunch was in episode two, early in episode two. I give him credit for that action too but by the time ep.03 rolls around, he's lost whatever he had at that point.

In this episode, when Rin visits his room to suggest that Houki get the heck out, he responds with, "Don't put the question to me." Houki actually attacked Rin with a weapon while he was standing around being wimpy. After Rin left, Houki let him know how impressively he was behaving. "Ichika… get kicked by a horse and die!" is a pretty good way to put it.

A eunuch in a harem is useless.

Yes, not interfering in the fight between the two women makes him useless. It's so terrible that he just let them duke it out like they were people capable of making decisions instead of using his studly powers of manlyness to put a stop to their foolish female outbursts. For shame.
Jan 23, 2011 12:14 AM

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Ichika isn't useless because he doesn't stop a fight. He's useless for not seeing the awesome that is Cecilia Alcott.

I do wonder though... Laura looks badass, wonder if she'll take over my anime crush when she comes up.
Jan 23, 2011 12:25 AM

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I think right now he's still just confused by her sudden shift in behavior. She's being all affectionate and he's looking at her like "WTF? Don't we hate eachother or something?", but cuz he's casual he just goes with the flow. Easier than fighting her again to get her to tell him why she isn't mad (I have a feeling a lot of casual disputes that could just be talked out will get settled in the ring because it's more dramatic that way).
Jan 23, 2011 12:32 AM

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Jan 23, 2011 2:03 AM

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^ I knew that after 1st episode. It's a trap.
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Jan 23, 2011 3:04 AM
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most generic protagonist in harem doesn't have those, because its not important.
Jan 23, 2011 3:07 AM

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Gangler said:
I think right now he's still just confused by her sudden shift in behavior. She's being all affectionate and he's looking at her like "WTF? Don't we hate eachother or something?", but cuz he's casual he just goes with the flow. Easier than fighting her again to get her to tell him why she isn't mad (I have a feeling a lot of casual disputes that could just be talked out will get settled in the ring because it's more dramatic that way).


Well let's be honest though. Any guy with a bit of common sense would've taken the hint. It sure would be confusing why someone would charge their princess-I-am-superior-than-you attitude after a simple battle, but the fact that she now has an interest should be obvious.

Oh well, Ichika has harem-hero syndrome, guess we can't blame him.
Jan 23, 2011 3:52 AM

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Well I will agree that he should have stopped that fight. But I can understand why he didn't. As you see, Houki was real quick to hitting some girl she barely even knew over who would room up with Ichika. Just think if he said he actually did wanna room with Rin...hell I'd stay out of the arguement too, cause both of them are violent at this point, Houki more so than Rin. They're both Tsundere, do you really think they would stop just because he said so? They'd probably look at him and get more pissed he's stopping them.

Like someone said, the most probable reason for his indecisiveness is his confusion of what the hell is going on around him. First, men are generally looked down upon, so its probably new to him of getting the picture some 400 girls likes you, especially the so called best of the best who you are supposedly inferior to. And another issue is the girls are clearly coming on WAY to strong at this point.

Ichika hasn't seen Houki in 6 years, and last time we were talking, you were my playground best buddy. When did I become the boyfriend? The fact that he feels the most comfortable around her and wants to room with her proves he isn't expecting any feelings from her, and he thinks its just one of the buds. Cecilia needs time to, just yesterday she treated him like a dog, a sperm donor at the most, now he's the biggest thing since sliced bread? Like someone said, aren't we enemies? Rin has been doing better than the others, though her main flaw was that she should have been up front with what she wants. Ichika was clearly listening and remember what she said, but he was only 13-14, I'm sure marriage didn't come to mind.

Just to end, yes Ichika is somewhat dense, but it makes sense considering he's only 15 and not use to romantic situations. But its the girls fault to. Boys are not like girls, we don't read between the lines like you do, its blunt and hear it as we heard it. If they want him, they need to come out with how they really feel, so then He'll have no excuse.
Jan 23, 2011 4:02 AM

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Well said my man, well said.

Jan 23, 2011 6:16 AM

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Tenchi_Ryu officially wins this thread.

Here's to hoping there'd be more explosions next ep. Looking forward to that first-ever 3D danmaku attack like in ep.1 prologue.
Jan 23, 2011 6:25 AM

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a question to someone who read the LN , is something serious/epic gonna happen here? or just harem/school life with random friendly mecha battles?

like a war or something?

deaths?

anything at all?


(just answer yes or no)
Jan 23, 2011 6:42 AM

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What a cliffhanger episode(again)...

@Tenchi_Ryu: you've just won the internet xD
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Jan 23, 2011 6:55 AM
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like what tenchi ryu said, dont blame ichika for being dense, he is just a kid that nvr expect himself to be center of harem

p.s. lol this series is very enjoyable as long as u dont expect too much of it (well... most anime nowadays r like that)
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Jan 23, 2011 9:30 AM

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Wow...it's only the first episode Rin's been in and I already fucking hate her. She's so annoying and tries to butt into shit. I don't care if she's the 'second childhood friend' or whatever. She's irritating as all hell and needs to gtfo :I

Jan 23, 2011 9:50 AM

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Tenchi_Ryu said:
First, men are generally looked down upon, so its probably new to him of getting the picture some 400 girls likes you, especially the so called best of the best who you are supposedly inferior to. And another issue is the girls are clearly coming on WAY to strong at this point.


That so? It's news to me cuz I used to think there's a reason why the adjective "chauvinistic" is generally associated with men & why the meme "make me sandwich" is also generally adored by them (there are other explanations regarding that cause too but I won't make a wall of text because of it) so seeing someone playing the victime for once is kinda refreshing~

But in this particular scenario where women are supposedly superior, I think that stream of victimizing yourself can be applied here...

Ichika was clearly listening and remember what she said, but he was only 13-14, I'm sure marriage didn't come to mind.


When he doesn't understand something, does it hurt to google it or ask another female regarding said issue? Guess his gonads must've hurt like hell then~

it makes sense considering he's only 15 and not use to romantic situations.


15 years old kids already hump each other like bunnies but maybe, just maybe, he might belong to the virgin class like most, if not all, 15 years old anime males. Man, if all men behave like that IRL, we wouldn't have to worry about overpopulation~

Boys are not like girls, we don't read between the lines like you do, its blunt and hear it as we heard it. If they want him, they need to come out with how they really feel, so then He'll have no excuse.


Yes, and that's why the ones who can read between the lines will get all the love while the rest will... well, have fun with inflatable dolls... Kidding aside, guess this guy is, like always, either mentally retarded and can't notice obvious things (because even the dumbest IRL kid can at least jump for Cecilia) or that he simply doesn't swing the way we want him to. Let's just put it at that, 'kay?



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Tenchi_Ryu said:
First, men are generally looked down upon, so its probably new to him of getting the picture some 400 girls likes you, especially the so called best of the best who you are supposedly inferior to. And another issue is the girls are clearly coming on WAY to strong at this point.


That so? It's news to me cuz I used to think there's a reason why the adjective "chauvinistic" is generally associated with men & why the meme "make me sandwich" is also generally adored by them (there are other explanations regarding that cause too but I won't make a wall of text because of it) so seeing someone playing the victime for once is kinda refreshing~

But in this particular scenario where women are supposedly superior, I think that stream of victimizing yourself can be applied here...


If you think most women just think men are the most fantastic things on earth or wherever the hell your going with that you clearly aren't paying attention. Yes, chauvinism does exist, but as a whole men are seen as buffoons. Helpless idiots who can't make do without a woman to cook and clean and tell them all the important things in life they don't understand. Jim balushi in his role in according to jim pretty much epitomizes what women think men are. Indeed, what many men think men are.

Not to mention that within this society where females are the dominant gender the principle is applicable regardless of our own society.

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Ichika was clearly listening and remember what she said, but he was only 13-14, I'm sure marriage didn't come to mind.


When he doesn't understand something, does it hurt to google it or ask another female regarding said issue? Guess his gonads must've hurt like hell then~

Dude, he only got his first indication that she didn't mean what she sounded like she meant today. The first thing he did is ask her what the real meaning was. Hardly seems like it's his fault she didn't answer the question, as he was pretty clearly open to communication.

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it makes sense considering he's only 15 and not use to romantic situations.


15 years old kids already hump each other like bunnies but maybe, just maybe, he might belong to the virgin class like most, if not all, 15 years old anime males. Man, if all men behave like that IRL, we wouldn't have to worry about overpopulation~

Yeah, I don't know what highschool you went to, but we didn't hump like rabits when I was fifteen. There were a handful of "cool kids" who got by on their good looks, or money, or athleticism or whatnot. The rest of us were just standard awkward teens. The reason the term awkward teen exists is because the teenage years are awkward as all hell.

Either way, whether we were fucking or not, no one (at least on the male end) was thinking about marriage. Once again, don't know where you went to highschool, but where I live fifteen year olds aren't even legally allowed to marry. It's not a concern. If anything a woman who's pushing for a ring at that age is a sign that she's batshit insane.

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Boys are not like girls, we don't read between the lines like you do, its blunt and hear it as we heard it. If they want him, they need to come out with how they really feel, so then He'll have no excuse.


Yes, and that's why the ones who can read between the lines will get all the love while the rest will... well, have fun with inflatable dolls... Kidding aside, guess this guy is, like always, either mentally retarded and can't notice obvious things (because even the dumbest IRL kid can at least jump for Cecilia) or that he simply doesn't swing the way we want him to. Let's just put it at that, 'kay?

I'll give you that. The notion that men are incapable of understanding basic social protocol is one of the negative stereotypes that hounds our gender. That being said, Cecilia would catch you all kinds of off guard. What no one ever takes into account is that even is a woman likes a man, and even if she's hinting, that doesn't necessarily mean the man's gonna go off and jump her bones just because she's available. Like I said, it's the image that we're incapable without women and think of nothing but fucking. He's established that he pretty strongly dislikes her. He's quite comfortable as a single man. So why the heck should he move in on Cecelia just because she's sending signals.

Even if he did move in on that, it wouldn't be on the first day. The response to "Oh, are you hurt?" isn't "Hey, let's head to a movie" or some other line used to initiate a relationship. It's day one, seems a bit much to be criticizing him for not fucking the attractive woman who started sending him signals just this morning, who he just short of hates, when he's expressed no desire to pursue a relationship with anyone, let alone a desperate move like that.
Jan 23, 2011 11:18 AM

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Jan 23, 2011 11:39 AM
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As the weeks pass, I'm getting more and more disappointed by this show. I don't mind watching a harem, but there's absolutely nothing unique about this one that sets it apart from the rest.
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As the weeks pass, I'm getting more and more disappointed by this show. I don't mind watching a harem, but there's absolutely nothing unique about this one that sets it apart from the rest.


I agree this show really getting weak and default. I really had hopes for this anime to be more then what it currently is.
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If you think most women just think men are the most fantastic things on earth or wherever the hell your going with that you clearly aren't paying attention. Yes, chauvinism does exist, but as a whole men are seen as buffoons. Helpless idiots who can't make do without a woman to cook and clean and tell them all the important things in life they don't understand. Jim balushi in his role in according to jim pretty much epitomizes what women think men are. Indeed, what many men think men are.

Not to mention that within this society where females are the dominant gender the principle is applicable regardless of our own society.


I never said "what women think about men", I said "what I used to think", please notice the difference. Also, the-guy-whom-I-quoted's argument about men being "generally looked down upon" is NOT TRUE as in most societies, men are far from being "looked down" on and thus I insisted that he should not put our MC in a pitiable position to conveniently justify his cluelessness and just simply admit that the MC is scripted to be dumb for this genre's sake.

And yes, I shall repeat that what he said can only be applied in this anime since according to the plot, the male/female order has been reversed but not applicable otherwise in IRL modern societies. This is FACT & if you hold your own, then please let it at that or conduct some research about it. Lecturing & explaining aren't my forte as I'm not a teacher

Dude, he only got his first indication that she didn't mean what she sounded like she meant today. The first thing he did is ask her what the real meaning was. Hardly seems like it's his fault she didn't answer the question, as he was pretty clearly open to communication.


One day has passed since then? When he asked her and she didn't answer while maintaining a hostile attitude, any sane person would be able to deduct that she's upset about something and in most cases, said sane person would do what I suggested.

Yeah, I don't know what highschool you went to, but we didn't hump like rabits when I was fifteen.


It's not a question about what highschool I went to & in fact, such conduct was strictly forbidden on campus ground and violation would lead to expulsion in my case. I merely based it on data concerning teen pregnancy by country and from what I've seen, I don't think my statement was in any way inaccurate. When we talk about a general issue and want it to be objective, we should base it on "random samples" or by the "mass", not by "your case" or "my case". Sure, your case might be different but is it the same for the whole world? Nope.

Either way, whether we were fucking or not, no one (at least on the male end) was thinking about marriage.


Please re-read the-guy-whom-I-quoted's argument & mine regarding that then compare it to yours. But to save your time, I guess I should explain it here: He was talking about Ichika being 15 & not used to romantic situations and my reply was 15 years old kids are used to romantic situations more that he thought, neither of us was relating it to "marriage". However, in case that was an add-on from your part then I appreciate your share of POV

He's established that he pretty strongly dislikes her. He's quite comfortable as a single man. So why the heck should he move in on Cecelia just because she's sending signals.


He doesn't seem to hold any ill feelings toward her IIRC, more like he think "My GDO, this gaijin girl is weird in the papaya" and I don't have any answer to your question nor do I remember ever addressing such concern in my post. What I said that at the least, assume he's not retarded, he should be able to notice that she seems to like him or that her attitude was drastically changed, but not "Awww yea, Imma jump her". Then again, maybe just as I said, his impression of her the entire time is something along the line of a "weird gaijin girl" so that might explain his indifference toward her 180 change of attitude.

Even if he did move in on that, it wouldn't be on the first day. The response to "Oh, are you hurt?" isn't "Hey, let's head to a movie" or some other line used to initiate a relationship. It's day one, seems a bit much to be criticizing him for not fucking the attractive woman who started sending him signals just this morning, who he just short of hates, when he's expressed no desire to pursue a relationship with anyone, let alone a desperate move like that.


As said earlier, I don't expect him to jump her, but at least notice that she strangely cares about him more than before, in contrast to her usual haughty tone. An example to illustrate what I meant & expected....

Gaijin girl: "Awwww U hurt?"

Mentally impaired MC thought to self: "Hmmmm... Isn't this weird gaijin girl being more considerate than usual?"

... and what I got...

Nothing!!! Even after she got all riled up when kung-fu girl showed up. C'mon! Isn't that strange?!! But no, it's all about Houki this, Houki that, panda girl this, ramen girl that....

In the end, maybe, just maybe, I can put my mind at ease by using your argument about him not wanting to lead any relationship & magically ignore it or the producers just forgot to include what he thinks.... 'kay, let's see how long I can fool myself...



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He's not worked up about anything because he's casual. Not every character has to react with an overexagerated "Whaaaat! Behavior has shifted! There's a mystery afoot!"

Like the original guy said, he's got other concerns besides wetting his dick. He doesn't react to the change in behavior, or the frequent come-on's because they don't register as significant.

The only point when he seems to indicate that something is even relevant to him is with Fang with the promise. Yes I'm sure he could ask a female friend, or do a google search, but it hardly makes him a fool for thinking he could just talk to his friend like they were both people capable of such a basic level of communication. He's obviously pissed because she's holding him to some promise he's made, but refuses to explain what it is she wants from him. It's just not nice or fair, and he expected more from what he felt was a close friend.

Teen pregnencies are common for the same reason elderly STD's are common. They don't practice safe sex. It doesn't change the fact that the average fifteen year old is pretty new to the romance game, and hasn't necessarily acquainted himself with the more nuanced aspects of courtship. Not that it's even relevant in this instance as he's not, you know, courting anyone... Nor has he expressed any desire to be in the market so to say.

Which of course brings me back to how we're all supposed to assume that women are just the most important thing in a man's life. It's not like he's worried about studying, or friendship or any such nonsense when there's vag to be plundered.

Men being looked down upon was probably an overstatement, but that's not to say there aren't certain stigma against the male gender. Not as bad as the women have it of course, but last I checked it wasn't a competition.

It would help if we could see his thoughts though. That being said, we haven't heard them at all. It's not like he's silent on just this one issue. It's just not done from a first person narrative perspective.
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Agreed, and the Men being looked down upon was not a reference towards real life society, it was focused on this story. When he actually stood up to face Cecilia, the entire class laughed in his face BECAUSE he was a guy, and that it was considered foolish for a man to even think he could stack up towards women.

That mentality no way in hell relates to real life which is so damn ironic because whether they no it or not, Women have so much control in this world all because of what the have. P*ssy rules the world is not just some stupid joke.

And like you said, seeing through his thoughts really would help, but some little hints can give us a little insight. The fact he for the most part has NO nervousness about rooming with Houki proved he isn't expecting anything romantic to happen, this is someone like a sister to him through his eyes.

At this point it could even be argued if IS is even really that important to him. He didn't really choose to be here, and he certainly didn't choose to be a IS pilot. The only reason he chooses to continue is because he knows that with his name comes a family honor, that he's representing his sister. He wants to keep her honor, he even states this during the Cecilia battle.

There's one thing when the lead is so dense he doesn't know about girls liking him, but its a COMPLETELY different thing when the main hero could give 2 shits about having a romantic relationship.
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There's too many tsunderes in this anime.
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IS is serious business now huh.
Jan 23, 2011 6:05 PM

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This thread is full of Win.

I enjoyed the ep very much I just hope he actually learns something about being a better IS pilot.
Jan 23, 2011 7:09 PM

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ShotaOnion said:
There's too many tsunderes in this anime.
You can never have too many.

Besides. right now we only have three. You're a lightweight:P

On a more serious note though, they really have done a good job of creating a good level of variance for where each is on the tsundere scale. Each has a largely different ratio of Tsun to dere.

Truth be told, Fang and blondie might not even be tsunderes. Blondie's pretty blatantly coming on to him, and doesn't seem to have any shame or embarrassment about it at all. Fang has also been pretty open, and probably would have come right out and said it if she hadn't been side tracked by the sudden revelation that her crush that she perceived as mutual was living with another woman and completely unaware of the romance she'd thought to present in their relationship. That's just plain surprising stuff right there.

We might only actually have one tsundere, a mildly shy girl, and a genuinely strong, possibly intelligent woman who knows what she wants and is actively engaged in an attempt to attain that. That would be pretty cool.
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@BitchMaster

+1 Well said and argued. Harem animes are just a fantasy and caters only to otakus (loves only 2-D women) who tries to relate themselves to harem leads (thinking to themselves that as long as you have nice and pure thoughts you will get all the chicks, but we all know women find bad boys more interesting). It is a lost cause to do a character study on harem leads since they are but a fantasy, meaning their logic don't apply to normal people.

edit: took out the whole quoted segment, it was just too much.
desolatoJan 24, 2011 7:20 AM
Jan 23, 2011 8:55 PM

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Give me a break, he fights like a pro last episode and now he can't even fly properly. Thats just stupid.
Jan 23, 2011 11:13 PM

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Blame adrenaline for that. I can play Ace Combat just fine kicking asses left right and center, but come to landing part? Woohoo~ (not that I suck either, just illustrating)

Gangler said:

We might only actually have one tsundere, a mildly shy girl, and a genuinely strong, possibly intelligent woman who knows what she wants and is actively engaged in an attempt to attain that. That would be pretty cool.


Very nice indeed, although I sense that Houki is too embarrassed to admit her feelings in public and as she turns dere when no one is watching, but has zero courage in romance (yet); status quo is god after all. I find it quite realistic, and as long as she doesn't devolve into bipolar bitchness that gets physical (I'm looking at you, Louise), I'm cool. Rin is ok too, assertive but not pushy (not yet) and witty to boot, while Cecilia's defrosting ice queen thing is a little too abrupt. One would have to wonder why; is it because she tasted her first (near) loss and is now humbled?

Anyhow, it has been established that, since he came to the academy thanks entirely to a fluke (or not), we can infer that the MC's thoughts are probably like:

1. Woah, I didn't know I can operate ISes, is that a big deal? What ARE ISes anyway? o_O
2. Why is everyone in this school a girl, and why is everyone giving me funny looks? And why are my old friends acting weird around me? O_O
3. Ok, let's just try to get along now, just like ordinary kids in a school, except that we're riding mutlibillion dollar machines? Please? >_<;
FotonJan 23, 2011 11:26 PM
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ShotaOnion said:
There's too many tsunderes in this anime.


We kind only have one and that is the terribad Houki.

Lin Yin is not a tsundere, and if she is, she sure is lacking in the tsun part. She slapped Ichika for being a git who can't take a hint, and while slapping him probably was uncalled for, it's tame compared to how most tsunderes treat their love interest.

Cecilia is just ojou (princess). Once she fell for Ichika, she stopped hating on him and in ep 3 hasn't done anything to quality her as tsundere.

Where are my kuuderes? :(
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ichika that bastard! he has the powers of mech weapon and 3 girls all over him in a all girls school... it's any guys dream or fantasy haha

too bad he sucks at noticing them all so far
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I didn't think this show could get more cheesy than the first 2 episodes. I guess I was wrong.

They could at least try to make the dialog interesting for a while instead of repeating the same things for 20 minutes.
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First, I will not apologize if you feel that the removal of your 'epic' may or may not have been unjustified, as this was just a mere necessity. Now let us all engage once again in a wonderful discussion about this fine episode.
Jan 25, 2011 8:50 AM

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Ralem said:
Veronin said:




That was what I was about to point out!

It seems that girls aren't the only one giving fanservice.

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desolato said:
Now let us all engage once again in a wonderful discussion about this fine episode.


Do you have an opinion of your own? We can restart from there :)
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Foton said:
desolato said:
Now let us all engage once again in a wonderful discussion about this fine episode.

Do you have an opinion of your own? We can restart from there :)

I'm currently not watching this show, nor planning to, so for now I'm only keeping an eye on the discussion at hand, if you don't mind. And eh, I guess that last thing I said míght have been a tad sarcastic.. Anyhow, the show doesn't really seem for me, I'm not that into mecha, only reason I would even 'consider' watching this, is because of the seiyuu. There you have it. And no, that didn't contribute anything to this thread, so next time you better refrain from asking such things :p
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