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Dec 8, 2010 12:15 PM
#101
Dec 8, 2010 2:02 PM
#102
I'm raging. They censored this one because they know EVERYBODY is only watching the show for this scene, RAAAAGE! AT LEAST GIVE ME SORA NIPPLES! |
Dec 8, 2010 3:08 PM
#103
Care to explain where you're coming from with the anal sex? Because I don't see anywhere in this anime that could happen or see how it has anything to do with the discussing subject.... But considering that scenario, I'm more than certain that she'd gain more followers who are into such fetishes if that were the feature of her arc. Let's take a moment to clarify the argument so far. You stated that Sora's fanbase is derived from the "taboo" featured in her arc. I countered by saying that the fanbase comes from a broader scheme than just taboo--it comes from the wish fulfillment principle. Now I am saying that while the taboo is certainly a part of the fanbase, it isn't the only reason. If it were just "this is taboo," the fanbase wouldn't be nearly as rabid. This is where I brought up anal sex. Anal sex is still taboo, but it's a *different taboo*. If the only reason that people favor Sora is taboo, then it should be reasonable that any kind of taboo will have equal effect. Thus, It's more than taboo. It must be something about the nature of the taboo, and how it's built up. This was my point. That's the argument in a nutshell. As for the rest, I don't really want to go looking through all the episodes of Amagami to provide statistics, and I doubt you do either, so I'll leave that unaddressed. I do agree Tsukasa could be considered the main heroine, but still less so than Sora). Well, I honestly doubt that, especially when the "wincest" in question almost makes up all the hype about this anime. Taking that out and that'd be like any other cheesy romance that we have daily. Consequently, most folks will be enraged because their expectation (or W.F) of blood-related siblings doing each other, which mainly consists of their reason to bother with the anime itself, is not satisfied. And that, might lead to a certain drop (be it major or minor) in Sora's fanbase. But she would still have the largest fanbase of the girls in this anime, right? Wasn't that what we were talking about when I originally quoted you--Nao and Sora, etc.? If so, there must be factors other than the twincest. It's still a kind of wish fulfillment since they've lived together, Sora is physically weak and has lost her parents, etc. As you said, it's the "knight in shining armor" wish fulfillment, but with Sora given main heroine status. Of course we have no way of knowing whether the fanbase would in fact be just as large as it is now; this is all conjecture. But I think these few things should illustrate that it would be similar, at least (1. main characters are usually the most popular in a harem, because of the most developed sense of intimacy; 2. the knight in shining armor wish fulfillment twincest whatever you want to call it amalgamation that drives their relationship; and 3. Sora's appearance). |
Dec 8, 2010 3:22 PM
#104
Dec 8, 2010 5:16 PM
#105
Dec 8, 2010 6:45 PM
#106
Woooo that what i was waiting for :D Sadly this is last arc also. |
Dec 8, 2010 6:55 PM
#107
belatkuro said: And Sora doing that at the end and Haru crying was not expected but a good twist to the arc.. After watching that scene several times I came to the conclusion that Haru was probably crying because of how good the music is during that part. Sora doing that + excellent BGM almost brought tears of joy to my eyes as well. |
Dec 8, 2010 7:13 PM
#108
Yae-hime said: So predictable... You know what would make for a real shocker-rou ending? Having us watch the last two episodes with Haru-kun doing Sora-chan til she bursts, then feeling so disgusted by it all that he literally tears her up. What I mean to say is...send us all over the cliff by watching him smother her with the stuffed rabbit she's so fond of, then get rid of any evidence he did her in or better yet, murder/suicide combo...then and only then will this have been the most shocking anime of the Winter season. :P That's EXACTLY what's going to happen, you must be psychic or something. Now you spoiled it for everyone else...NOT. |
Dec 8, 2010 9:17 PM
#110
Dec 9, 2010 7:25 AM
#111
5 out of 5: Loved it! (your vote) Haru x Sora LOVE!! xD |
Dec 9, 2010 8:44 AM
#112
I watched all the other 9 episodes in 2 days. Just in time for the incest arc. Wow the censoring laws in Japan must be getting more prudish. I imagine in the old days they would never censor the masturbation scene. Then again I never lived in Japan in the old days. Just 2 more episodes until the end. It was a good run. Mod edit: Removed double posts. |
desolatoDec 12, 2010 5:58 AM
Dec 9, 2010 8:44 AM
#113
Wow the censoring laws in Japan must be getting more prudish. I imagine in the old days they would never censor the masturbation scene. Then again I never lived in Japan in the old days. Just 2 more episodes until the end. It was a good run. |
Dec 9, 2010 8:48 AM
#114
RocknRollOtaku said: Wow the censoring laws in Japan must be getting more prudish. I imagine in the old days they would never censor the masturbation scene. Then again I never lived in Japan in the old days. Just 2 more episodes until the end. It was a good run. True they are getting more strict for one thing you can't even see her vagina, her dress covers it and quite well. Also, some panty shots and fully clothed scenes get censored nowdays, I often rant about this about Motto! To Love Ru. |
Dec 9, 2010 9:01 AM
#115
Yae-hime said: or maybe they find out that they aren't really siblings and we get to see a MorishimaXJunichi-like ending or or they really do suicide together and play the Gantz game.So predictable... You know what would make for a real shocker-roo ending? Having us watch the last two episodes with Haru-kun doing Sora-chan til she bursts. Then, feeling so disgusted by it all, he literally tears her up. What I mean to say is...send us all over the cliff by watching him smother her, with that stuffed rabbit she's so fond of, during sex, then, get rid of any evidence he did her in or better yet, a murder/suicide combo...then and only then, will this have been the most shocking anime series of the Winter season. :P |
Dec 9, 2010 10:22 AM
#116
Wow, Sora's quite the drama queen. That last scene was quite something. It looks like Haruka realized that it has already gone too far and Sora really can't do without him. =O Very interesting start of the arc. Not in the last place because I don't like Nao. =P Looks like the next episode is going to have Kozue in it. She's not going to accept it if Haruka and Sora get together. =( |
OnyxthegreatDec 9, 2010 11:36 AM
Dec 9, 2010 12:48 PM
#117
Very good except for one thing: Seeing Nao again! Now that was D: Get this too, in the spoiler below such delicious scene of Sora masturbating it completely pawned the one on the chair. Yes and Yes. Only bad part of the ep was Nao and the best parts were everything else. |
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Dec 9, 2010 1:05 PM
#118
YES! FINALLY! This what I expected from the show when I saw the first episode. Why did they have to waste so much of the series on the alternative routes ;_; |
Dec 9, 2010 10:50 PM
#119
Slowpoke here! Gosh. This was awesome. I don't care about incest, but tsunderes have complete control over me. Sora is... delicious, and, like other people said: Haru, you crying? Seriously? CRYING?! I honestly thought he was fapping or something, when I saw the heavy breathing. (But maybe he was getting really turned on and then thought "Oh my god what am I doing") Anyway most of this has alreayd been said, I got late to the party D: |
Dec 10, 2010 12:38 AM
#120
Mugen900 said: Yumekichi11 said: THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Very good except for one thing: Seeing Nao again! Now that was D: Get this too, in the spoiler below such delicious scene of Sora masturbating it completely pawned the one on the chair. What does Haru do when he sees that? I wonder if Haru is crying out of tears of joy or tears of shock. By the way there is still one more girl that Haru hasn't bang yet, I hope he bangs her first before he makes Sora his "FRENCH LES RESISTANCE." I am not sure around which part that one girl he did not bang will be but when I find out I will make sure to check if it is around the Sora arc. Mugen900 said: No and just no. You have to put yourself in the shoes of someone that has no relatives left supportive of him and has only a twin sister left. The feeling of all that is more than enough to blow out Nao in all this.Ya know, I don't think he has to bang Sora since she is his sisters, but since this is an anime, what's stopping the author from making Haru bang Sora? Then again, I prefer that Haru ends up with Nao. |
Dec 10, 2010 8:07 AM
#121
Finally some Sora goodness!!! Actually, for not fapping over his sister, I give some kudos to Haru. It's almost as if like he LOVES her and doesn't want to just nail her -- because yes, that was the feeling I got in all other arcs >> p.s.: Why is this bitch Nao still here?! ,,,(=A=); RAGE And yeah, I want a chibi Sora too XD |
Dec 10, 2010 10:11 AM
#122
Now it's the wincest route :) Haru watching Sora masturbating was a bit weird... Why did he cry in the end? |
Dec 10, 2010 1:52 PM
#124
akuma2002 said: Now it's the wincest route :) Haru watching Sora masturbating was a bit weird... Why did he cry in the end? Haru: Ore no imouto no onani ga konnani kawaii wake ga nai. That's why. |
Dec 10, 2010 2:57 PM
#125
BitchMaster said: notathome said: Also, coherent and cogent are two different things. I'm well aware of that fact, TY for stating the obvious though. The reason I used "coherent" DOES apply to a certain case that I personally came across. The difference is the context. You're right that taboos in general fall under wish fulfillment (as almost everything can), but I don't think just "wincest" is enough to get Sora such a rabid fanbase. As I said before, anal sex is also a taboo, but I highly doubt you'd get as many fans rooting for her if that were the feature characteristic of her arc. Care to explain where you're coming from with the anal sex? Because I don't see anywhere in this anime that could happen or see how it has anything to do with the discussing subject.... But considering that scenario, I'm more than certain that she'd gain more followers who are into such fetishes if that were the feature of her arc. Taboo and W.F. are related, not congruent. Yes; however, that relativism applies specifically in this case because a taboo is involved. They might not be entirely congruent but the taboo is a better explanation regarding the analyze of the rabid fanbase's behavior toward this particular "wincest" anime IMO No, wish fulfillment has nothing to do with the unexpected. It's hard to talk about apples when you think I'm talking about oranges, so I'll state clearly here that wish fulfillment is the satisfaction of a desire or need, either vicariously or through dreams. And in this specific context that revolves around this anime, that "satisfaction of a desire or need, either vicariously or through dreams" stems from the taboo itself. And maybe the looks factor too. Favoritism comes into play under such occurence. The idea that it's just the taboo is wrong, because, well, it's not. The taboo is part of it, but the bigger issue here is wish fulfillment, into which the taboo falls. I don't doubt that Sora would still have the largest fanbase if it were suddenly revealed that they weren't brother and sister--do you? Well, I honestly doubt that, especially when the "wincest" in question almost makes up all the hype about this anime. Taking that out and that'd be like any other cheesy romance that we have daily. Consequently, most folks will be enraged because their expectation (or W.F) of blood-related siblings doing each other, which mainly consists of their reason to bother with the anime itself, is not satisfied. And that, might lead to a certain drop (be it major or minor) in Sora's fanbase. I don't understand where you get the 1/2 statistic or anything else in the paragraph this quotation comes from. It's an assumption from my part since I'm too lazy to look up for specific info. What I mean is that your claim regarding childhood partners are the MAIN cause for their popularity might not be absolute as there are other factors going for those type of characters that deviate popularity from focusing entirely on that particular feature of "knowing each other since childhood". It may be 1/3 or 3/4 or 2/3, etc... Who knows, but at least it shows that the reason those girls are popular is NOT because of the single fact that they know the MC since birth. Repeating myself here: knowing each other since childhood is one part of the much broader scheme here, which is general intimacy. Deeply intimate partners are preferred to newly developing relationships as far as I know in any media source, even in non-anime romantic comedies (rooting for the best friend, etc.). The same can be said to newly developped romance, unlesss you can provide me specific sources with reliable data. Otherwise, it'd be a matter of personal interpretation as personally, from what I've seen in recent anime, the childhood friend has a better tendency to lose to the newly introduced heroine. And I infer from those cases that this hype about "knowing each other while growing up" is getting trite. However, it MUST be included due to the fact that most japanese kids don't get to know many people outside their district so that "childhood partner" is a good device for self-reflection. And self-reflection is one thing, but whether they will prefer a new girlfriend or stay with the old one is another story. I think Morishima Haruka gets the most screen time of all. She gets the most "side screen time" in every arc. I don't wanna bother to go through those torturous eps just to find sauce to back up my arguments. From my memory, class rep is always around in every characters' arc too but I do remember Morishima better because her screen time is at least amusing compared to that of class rep's.... Also, the original opening theme didn't feature Tsukasa at the center. That wasn't done until much later. One might argue that since it's nearing the most anticipating arc, might very well promote the main heroine~ Like i said in my previous post i think Sora gets more attention then she deserves. And the fact is that she receives allot of positive commends while Kirino receives allot of negative commends. Which i think is unjustified. Sure some of this is because of my personal dislike towards Sora and sure Kirino does deserve some negative commends. But fact is that Sora's personality and behavior is far worse then that of Kirino. As i mentioned Sora is pessimistic and spoiled. I have not seen her do a single thing herself and whenever she needs something or wants something done the first thing she does is start whining to Haru. And when he does what she asks she doesn't even thank him or gives a negative reply. Kirino is spoiled as well but she isn't pessimistic and unlike Sora does things herself and doesn't go to her brother every time she needs something. She only asks for help from time to time and her brother even helps her when she doesn't ask, and she even thanks him for it from time to time. And fact is she did achieve allot be herself without the help of others. Sure Sora has a weak body but this doesn't mean she can sit on her bed all day and do nothing, there allot of people out there with a weak body that do everything they can to achieve things them self. She might have a weak body but i wont feel sorry for her all she does is lying on her bed all day well she could actually do something. If she was in a wheel chair and could no do certain things because of it or the only thing she could not go out of her bed do to a medical condition then i might feel sorry for her but that isn't the case. There is also a big difference in the brothers Kyousuke isn't such a pushover as Haru and actually does stand up to his little sister and others. While Haru is just a easy pushover who can't say no. As said Sora gets allot more attention because of her incestuous relationship with her brother. Something Kirino doesn't have. Incest is taboo and therefore shocking which is the reason Sora gets more attention then Kirino. But if the roles where reversed Kirino would get more attention. And i am almost positive that Kirino would be more popular then Sora if both of them where involved in a incestuous relationship. It's true that Ore no Imouto ga Konnani Kawaii Wake ga Nai has a different audience but this doesn't change the fact about the personality of the characters. About Morishima it's true that she gets more screen time them most of the characters in Amagami SS. But she is one of those characters that is there to bring comic relief and she is often there during the moments when comic relief is needed. Her air headed personality is perfect for this and she often appears to break up the serious mode with something funny. |
AversaDec 10, 2010 6:53 PM
Dec 10, 2010 5:36 PM
#126
Aversa said: BitchMaster said: notathome said: Also, coherent and cogent are two different things. I'm well aware of that fact, TY for stating the obvious though. The reason I used "coherent" DOES apply to a certain case that I personally came across. The difference is the context. You're right that taboos in general fall under wish fulfillment (as almost everything can), but I don't think just "wincest" is enough to get Sora such a rabid fanbase. As I said before, anal sex is also a taboo, but I highly doubt you'd get as many fans rooting for her if that were the feature characteristic of her arc. Care to explain where you're coming from with the anal sex? Because I don't see anywhere in this anime that could happen or see how it has anything to do with the discussing subject.... But considering that scenario, I'm more than certain that she'd gain more followers who are into such fetishes if that were the feature of her arc. Taboo and W.F. are related, not congruent. Yes; however, that relativism applies specifically in this case because a taboo is involved. They might not be entirely congruent but the taboo is a better explanation regarding the analyze of the rabid fanbase's behavior toward this particular "wincest" anime IMO No, wish fulfillment has nothing to do with the unexpected. It's hard to talk about apples when you think I'm talking about oranges, so I'll state clearly here that wish fulfillment is the satisfaction of a desire or need, either vicariously or through dreams. And in this specific context that revolves around this anime, that "satisfaction of a desire or need, either vicariously or through dreams" stems from the taboo itself. And maybe the looks factor too. Favoritism comes into play under such occurence. The idea that it's just the taboo is wrong, because, well, it's not. The taboo is part of it, but the bigger issue here is wish fulfillment, into which the taboo falls. I don't doubt that Sora would still have the largest fanbase if it were suddenly revealed that they weren't brother and sister--do you? Well, I honestly doubt that, especially when the "wincest" in question almost makes up all the hype about this anime. Taking that out and that'd be like any other cheesy romance that we have daily. Consequently, most folks will be enraged because their expectation (or W.F) of blood-related siblings doing each other, which mainly consists of their reason to bother with the anime itself, is not satisfied. And that, might lead to a certain drop (be it major or minor) in Sora's fanbase. I don't understand where you get the 1/2 statistic or anything else in the paragraph this quotation comes from. It's an assumption from my part since I'm too lazy to look up for specific info. What I mean is that your claim regarding childhood partners are the MAIN cause for their popularity might not be absolute as there are other factors going for those type of characters that deviate popularity from focusing entirely on that particular feature of "knowing each other since childhood". It may be 1/3 or 3/4 or 2/3, etc... Who knows, but at least it shows that the reason those girls are popular is NOT because of the single fact that they know the MC since birth. Repeating myself here: knowing each other since childhood is one part of the much broader scheme here, which is general intimacy. Deeply intimate partners are preferred to newly developing relationships as far as I know in any media source, even in non-anime romantic comedies (rooting for the best friend, etc.). The same can be said to newly developped romance, unlesss you can provide me specific sources with reliable data. Otherwise, it'd be a matter of personal interpretation as personally, from what I've seen in recent anime, the childhood friend has a better tendency to lose to the newly introduced heroine. And I infer from those cases that this hype about "knowing each other while growing up" is getting trite. However, it MUST be included due to the fact that most japanese kids don't get to know many people outside their district so that "childhood partner" is a good device for self-reflection. And self-reflection is one thing, but whether they will prefer a new girlfriend or stay with the old one is another story. I think Morishima Haruka gets the most screen time of all. She gets the most "side screen time" in every arc. I don't wanna bother to go through those torturous eps just to find sauce to back up my arguments. From my memory, class rep is always around in every characters' arc too but I do remember Morishima better because her screen time is at least amusing compared to that of class rep's.... Also, the original opening theme didn't feature Tsukasa at the center. That wasn't done until much later. One might argue that since it's nearing the most anticipating arc, might very well promote the main heroine~ Like i said in my previous post i think Sora gets more attention then she deserves. And the fact is that she receives allot of positive commends while Kirino receives allot of negative commends. Which i think is unjustified. Sure some of this is because of my personal dislike towards Sora and sure Kirino does deserve some negative commends. But fact is that Sora's personality and behavior is far worse then that of Kirino. As i mentioned Sora is pessimistic and spoiled. I have not seen her do a single thing herself and whenever she needs something or wants something done the first thing she does is start whining to Haru. And when he does what she asks she doesn't even thank him or gives a negative reply. Kirino is spoiled as well but she isn't pessimistic and unlike Sora does things herself and doesn't go to her brother every time she needs something. She only asks for help from time to time and her brother even helps her when she doesn't ask, and she even thanks him for it from time to time. And fact is she did achieve allot be herself without the help of others. Sure Sora has a weak body but this doesn't mean she can sit on her bed all day and do nothing, there allot of people out there with a weak body that do everything they can to achieve things them self. She might have a weak body bud i wont feel sorry for her all she does is lying on her bed all day well she could actually do something. If she was in a wheel chair and could no do certain things because of it or the only thing she could not go out of her bed do to a medical condition then i might feel sorry for her but that isn't the case. There is also a big difference in the brothers Kyousuke isn't such a pushover as Haru and actually does stand up to his little sister and others. While Haru is just a easy pushover who can't say no. As said Sora gets allot more attention because of her incestuous relationship with her brother. Something Kirino doesn't have. Incest is taboo and therefore shocking which is the reason Sora gets more attention then Kirino. But if the roles where reversed Kirino would get more attention. And i am almost positive that Kirino would be more popular then Sora if both of them where involved in a incestuous relationship. It's true that Ore no Imouto ga Konnani Kawaii Wake ga Nai has a different audience but this doesn't change the fact about the personality of the characters. About Morishima it's true that she gets more screen time them most of the characters in Amagami SS. But she is one of those characters that is there to bring comic relief and she is often there during the moments when comic relief is needed. Her air headed personality is perfect for this and she often appears to break up the serious mode with something funny. Do you have a point to go with your wall of text or are you just posting for shits and giggles ? Also, lern2spelling. Mod edit: While I'm partial to users as the one you quoted above, I also don't approve of you quoting huge walls of text, taking up forum space unnecessarily, without anything useful to add as well. If you want to call someone out that bad, report him/her. |
desolatoDec 12, 2010 5:34 AM
Dec 10, 2010 6:26 PM
#127
Actually, Aversa does have a point there. So many people hate Kirino, yet they are okay with Sora o_O Anyways, as for me, I love Kirino, cuz she's so awesome and we're alike fangirling-wise, and Sora is just okay for me + hot. But yeah, when you combine it with the incest XDD She's awesome too ;d Well, since I don't have a problem with any of them two, I don't have anything else to say about this OwO.. p.s.: Aversa, who the hell told you there's no incest in OreImo?? Sure, the anime is presented from Shounen POV... But as far as I know, in the novel is a lot more different and it's seinen-ish. |
Dec 10, 2010 7:09 PM
#128
Nao-stani said: So many people hate Kirino, yet they are okay with Sora o_O I don't see a problem with this, I'm one of those people. At first I liked Kirino, but after 10 episodes of 99% tsun and 1% dere I feel like bitch-slapping her just to shut her up. As for Sora, I loved her since the moment I saw her, I didn't even know about the wincest at the time. Must be the twin-tails that got to me ^_^ |
Dec 10, 2010 7:09 PM
#129
Aversa said: Well said about the comparativeness! I agree with then except that Sora has a unique appeal with her eyes and hair that perhaps only one in Chrome Shell Regios did and that has been some time.BitchMaster said: notathome said: Also, coherent and cogent are two different things. I'm well aware of that fact, TY for stating the obvious though. The reason I used "coherent" DOES apply to a certain case that I personally came across. The difference is the context. You're right that taboos in general fall under wish fulfillment (as almost everything can), but I don't think just "wincest" is enough to get Sora such a rabid fanbase. As I said before, anal sex is also a taboo, but I highly doubt you'd get as many fans rooting for her if that were the feature characteristic of her arc. Care to explain where you're coming from with the anal sex? Because I don't see anywhere in this anime that could happen or see how it has anything to do with the discussing subject.... But considering that scenario, I'm more than certain that she'd gain more followers who are into such fetishes if that were the feature of her arc. Taboo and W.F. are related, not congruent. Yes; however, that relativism applies specifically in this case because a taboo is involved. They might not be entirely congruent but the taboo is a better explanation regarding the analyze of the rabid fanbase's behavior toward this particular "wincest" anime IMO No, wish fulfillment has nothing to do with the unexpected. It's hard to talk about apples when you think I'm talking about oranges, so I'll state clearly here that wish fulfillment is the satisfaction of a desire or need, either vicariously or through dreams. And in this specific context that revolves around this anime, that "satisfaction of a desire or need, either vicariously or through dreams" stems from the taboo itself. And maybe the looks factor too. Favoritism comes into play under such occurence. The idea that it's just the taboo is wrong, because, well, it's not. The taboo is part of it, but the bigger issue here is wish fulfillment, into which the taboo falls. I don't doubt that Sora would still have the largest fanbase if it were suddenly revealed that they weren't brother and sister--do you? Well, I honestly doubt that, especially when the "wincest" in question almost makes up all the hype about this anime. Taking that out and that'd be like any other cheesy romance that we have daily. Consequently, most folks will be enraged because their expectation (or W.F) of blood-related siblings doing each other, which mainly consists of their reason to bother with the anime itself, is not satisfied. And that, might lead to a certain drop (be it major or minor) in Sora's fanbase. I don't understand where you get the 1/2 statistic or anything else in the paragraph this quotation comes from. It's an assumption from my part since I'm too lazy to look up for specific info. What I mean is that your claim regarding childhood partners are the MAIN cause for their popularity might not be absolute as there are other factors going for those type of characters that deviate popularity from focusing entirely on that particular feature of "knowing each other since childhood". It may be 1/3 or 3/4 or 2/3, etc... Who knows, but at least it shows that the reason those girls are popular is NOT because of the single fact that they know the MC since birth. Repeating myself here: knowing each other since childhood is one part of the much broader scheme here, which is general intimacy. Deeply intimate partners are preferred to newly developing relationships as far as I know in any media source, even in non-anime romantic comedies (rooting for the best friend, etc.). The same can be said to newly developped romance, unlesss you can provide me specific sources with reliable data. Otherwise, it'd be a matter of personal interpretation as personally, from what I've seen in recent anime, the childhood friend has a better tendency to lose to the newly introduced heroine. And I infer from those cases that this hype about "knowing each other while growing up" is getting trite. However, it MUST be included due to the fact that most japanese kids don't get to know many people outside their district so that "childhood partner" is a good device for self-reflection. And self-reflection is one thing, but whether they will prefer a new girlfriend or stay with the old one is another story. I think Morishima Haruka gets the most screen time of all. She gets the most "side screen time" in every arc. I don't wanna bother to go through those torturous eps just to find sauce to back up my arguments. From my memory, class rep is always around in every characters' arc too but I do remember Morishima better because her screen time is at least amusing compared to that of class rep's.... Also, the original opening theme didn't feature Tsukasa at the center. That wasn't done until much later. One might argue that since it's nearing the most anticipating arc, might very well promote the main heroine~ Like i said in my previous post i think Sora gets more attention then she deserves. And the fact is that she receives allot of positive commends while Kirino receives allot of negative commends. Which i think is unjustified. Sure some of this is because of my personal dislike towards Sora and sure Kirino does deserve some negative commends. But fact is that Sora's personality and behavior is far worse then that of Kirino. As i mentioned Sora is pessimistic and spoiled. I have not seen her do a single thing herself and whenever she needs something or wants something done the first thing she does is start whining to Haru. And when he does what she asks she doesn't even thank him or gives a negative reply. Kirino is spoiled as well but she isn't pessimistic and unlike Sora does things herself and doesn't go to her brother every time she needs something. She only asks for help from time to time and her brother even helps her when she doesn't ask, and she even thanks him for it from time to time. And fact is she did achieve allot be herself without the help of others. Sure Sora has a weak body but this doesn't mean she can sit on her bed all day and do nothing, there allot of people out there with a weak body that do everything they can to achieve things them self. She might have a weak body bud i wont feel sorry for her all she does is lying on her bed all day well she could actually do something. If she was in a wheel chair and could no do certain things because of it or the only thing she could not go out of her bed do to a medical condition then i might feel sorry for her but that isn't the case. There is also a big difference in the brothers Kyousuke isn't such a pushover as Haru and actually does stand up to his little sister and others. While Haru is just a easy pushover who can't say no. As said Sora gets allot more attention because of her incestuous relationship with her brother. Something Kirino doesn't have. Incest is taboo and therefore shocking which is the reason Sora gets more attention then Kirino. But if the roles where reversed Kirino would get more attention. And i am almost positive that Kirino would be more popular then Sora if both of them where involved in a incestuous relationship. It's true that Ore no Imouto ga Konnani Kawaii Wake ga Nai has a different audience but this doesn't change the fact about the personality of the characters. About Morishima it's true that she gets more screen time them most of the characters in Amagami SS. But she is one of those characters that is there to bring comic relief and she is often there during the moments when comic relief is needed. Her air headed personality is perfect for this and she often appears to break up the serious mode with something funny. |
Dec 11, 2010 10:24 PM
#130
-Quasar said: Interesting, still the power of Wincest will win. No use fighting against it Haru. :3 Twincest. Fixed. |
Dec 12, 2010 1:32 AM
#131
Genix said: T/Wincest. You know it's true.-Quasar said: Interesting, still the power of Wincest will win. No use fighting against it Haru. :3 Twincest. Fixed. |
Dec 12, 2010 5:52 AM
#132
Mod break: I'm gone for one week, and this happens? One taboo and all these hormones go flying?.. First, heavily cleaned this thread of picture replies, chatty replies, and replies that just went too far. Refrain from personally calling out other users, whether you're commenting on their posts containing possible spoilers or just personally have a problem with them, don't take it out over here, but report said user. Also, take note of everything you quote, just because you quoted something that seems 'useful', it does not mean your post is. |
Dec 12, 2010 8:09 AM
#133
Dec 12, 2010 3:49 PM
#134
Will this show seize to provide me with awkward sexual situations? Ahh but Haru's reaction to Sora's masturbation. It seemed so real and human. better than jerking off at your sister thats jerking off at you... |
Dec 12, 2010 4:17 PM
#135
I'm kinda disappointed at the recent incest trend we have in anime, and seeing everyone cheering for this makes me lose faith in the human race a bit. ^ω^ I think Haruka's reaction at the end was natural if he loved Sora as a sister only. Also, I thought Sora finally accepted Nao as a friend when she asked her brother to call for Nao's help last episode, or does character development not count in this anime if the main character is not involved? I hope Haruka sticks with Nao, or moves to a different classmate. Sora should just onani for eternity for all I care. And to all Kirino haters, she's way better/cuter than Sora in my opinion. All in all, it was a good episode. 5/5 |
Drake-sanDec 12, 2010 4:20 PM
Dec 13, 2010 4:58 AM
#136
Drake-san said: I'm kinda disappointed at the recent incest trend we have in anime, and seeing everyone cheering for this makes me lose faith in the human race a bit. ^ω^ You understand that our existence is result of incestuous relationships? Both Bible and science says so, incenstuous relationships exists since the very begining of humanity, so you are loosing the faith in humanity because you are watching something that humanity do since ever? |
Dec 13, 2010 7:06 AM
#137
the note! the note! another proof of the theory i had on akira arc , that would explain haru attitude. |
Dec 19, 2010 8:45 PM
#138
Dec 22, 2010 9:02 AM
#139
Jan 1, 2011 5:52 AM
#140
BitchMaster said: Before teh good Christians flock in here, I gotta say this is a vewy vewy shameful episode that even Jewdas would not approve!!! Just heard this from some anime news too.. most shameful series.. I'm halfway in the series no reason to drop this.. |
Jan 5, 2011 12:13 PM
#141
I am confused, so Sora and Haru are not related?? They said they were orphans. |
Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone |
Jan 6, 2011 12:17 AM
#142
Confucius said: I am confused, so Sora and Haru are not related?? They said they were orphans. How does being orphans indicate they're not related? Get your facts straight. They lost the parents whose union gave birth to both of them. It's not that hard to figure out... |
Jan 6, 2011 10:34 PM
#143
I am totally speechless at Haruka...how many more women does he want to have sex with? (even with his sister!!!) What a womanizer!!! It would be better for him to go apply for porn job. (Does he contract AIDS already?) |
jimmy2027Jan 6, 2011 11:26 PM
Jan 6, 2011 11:58 PM
#144
Well... I had dropped the series around ep 4, then picked it back up to give it another chance. I ended up dropping it again at ep 10. At that point I said to myself "Wow, this series... is terrible, but I'll have to make it through 2 more episodes so I can say that I watched it." There is absolutely no character development (Yes, I do understand that each route was a different reality, but seriously... ) throughout this series, which is what really bugged me from the start. After the first masturbation scene I decided that this series must be either: a) a half-hentai fan-service, or b) an anime created from an H-game, the latter of which is correct. Haru, by the end, still remains driven by his own sexual impulses, almost like a kid with severe ADHD at a strip club. It was almost funny to watch him try to have sex with everyone, and I'll admit, I laughed when the second-to-last girl denied him. The final scene was "meh." I was pretty unimpressed, and then I got to the drowning scene... So, it was basically like the artists decided "Hey, well this series has no complexity whatsoever, so let's throw in this scene as a 'twist.'" A sadist moment occurred for a second where I actually wanted them both to drown and have the series end right there. The only part that I enjoyed was the OP and ending songs, which were very good considering the content of the series. 2/10, and I am prepared to be judged... |
Jan 12, 2011 10:14 PM
#145
Jan 28, 2011 11:10 PM
#146
Feb 28, 2011 12:23 PM
#148
Gahh Nao's presence annoys me :< But great to see the Sora arc finally, Sora masturbating *w*, Haru probably cried cuz' of the shock and guilt within him. |
Apr 2, 2011 8:41 AM
#149
nao's presence is needed to set a plotline...but i do feel bad for her, as shes gonna be heartbroken and the last scene..wtf..lol but i guess im not surprised considering the series thus far.. on to 11! great series.. |
Apr 17, 2011 9:04 PM
#150
What an episode. We've finally gotten into the Sora arc and I won't say I'm dissapointed yet. For some reason, it's the really messed up anime that seem to leave the biggest impact on me. And this anime hasn't fallen anywhere near short. Looking forward to the next! |
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