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Nov 20, 2010 1:31 PM

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^ I'm not sure either. It should've been mentioned in anime already, cause it was in the manga even eariel. But it might've as well been omitted, just like Seishirou's identity wich should've been confirmed by Tohru in this episode.

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Don't take your assumption as a confirmed fact.
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Nov 20, 2010 2:20 PM

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Can't wait for the next episode...

And it looks like Natsuno isn't the douchebag we all thought he was, YAY.
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Can people please just stop with the spoilers already? In a great show like this you will ruin everything if someone were to read it.

And if you want to right it so bad then please just go to MANGA discussion or somewhere else.

As Jacut said, this show really know how to make you wait for the next episode with a pain in the ass.


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Nov 20, 2010 3:33 PM

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Superluccix said:
People keep saying Tatsumi is a werewolf. Why? When did this anime ever say that he was a werewolf? How come the idea of a Day-Walker isn't viable? Is it because we have never seen Tatsumi sucking blood so therefore he is a werewolf? If thats the case, well....I guess I can understand


Yes it is confirmed. I know we were all laughing as hell in the funeral scene in ep. 15, but if we payed attention, the flashy funeral guy called "JINROU" to Tatsumi, a jinrou is a werewolf.

So, this isnt a manga spoiler, this was told on the anime...

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ohh Akiraaa :( why did you go in there KNOWING there was a vamp (YES i know he knew they sleep during the day.... but to go in BY YOURSELF... ugh idiot!)

YAY Natsuno + Doc = hawt awesomeness!


I saw this in half the post here. This comment is what is stupid and not Akira.
If he had succeeded in killing that vampire guy everyone would be writing him comments of how awesome he is despite still going in the house alone.
Seriously with who the hell was he suppose to go! With those old farts that only know how to sit there and gossip about things, with his half ded mother or his scary-cat of a sister that would have tried to stop him if he told her, not to mention she wouldn't be of any help even if she was with him.
How was the poor boy suppose to know that stupid old man had the fucking day-walker as his guard. Because other than that his plan was just fine since those guys sleep during the day.
Seriously everyone is calling him in an idiot while he actually did nothing stupid. Hell he was the only one other than the doctor and that old lady who actually tried to do something. Even the supposedly big-shot Natsuno did nothing until now except getting himself killed.
That boy is the most logical person in the village, he dried to save Natsuno, he tried to tell them about the shikis and now it tried to kill one by himself telling his sister how stupid is worrying about everyday life and school at the moment is.
He just has the bad luck being in a village full of idiots and being a child.

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So it's confirmed Natsuno is a shiki, one of those bullshit cop-out "werewolf" types. How fucking stupid. Why is he so special? Besides being the main character of course. And where are his wolf ears? His fangs? His great sense of smell and super strength? And has he killed someone yet -- how is he surviving? I got the feeling shiki only live if they suck blood really soon after they rise. It would be interesting if Ozaki gives Natsuno his blood to sustain him until the fight is over.

Yes... shouldn't Natsuno have needed to drain some blood by now? I hope they don't ignore that little problem, because I am curious.


If he is a werewolf which is the most probable, why the hell would he need any blood?

Urufuzu_rein said:
''I think you should attack your own family!''.Oh Megumi,you're such a lovable bitch.


Indeed.

mystik said:

how can those stupid old villagers sit back and laugh? none of them care or try to do anything. they don't deserve to "rise".


When you are as old as them you probably don't give a shit if the world is falling apart since you are close on dying anyway.
The younger ones are the really annoying.

HOLY SHIT!!!!!


GarLogan78 said:
Superluccix said:
People keep saying Tatsumi is a werewolf. Why? When did this anime ever say that he was a werewolf? How come the idea of a Day-Walker isn't viable? Is it because we have never seen Tatsumi sucking blood so therefore he is a werewolf? If thats the case, well....I guess I can understand


I don't remember the episode, but I am pretty sure someone referred to him as a werewolf.


It was the previous episode for God sakes. Some other guy clearly referred to Tatsumi as a werewolf. So the show mentioned werewolves but nothing about daywalkers. Sp what is the logical thing to think when you see Natsuno walking in the day?
And anyway daywalkers don't even exist in traditional vampire legends. They where created lately by comics and Hollywood and until now Shiki was pretty loyal to the classic image of a vampire.
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Monad said:



Seriously with who the hell was he suppose to go! With those old farts that only know how to sit there and gossip about things, with his half dead mother or his scary-cat of a sister that would have tried to stop him if he told her, not to mention she wouldn't be of any help even if she was with him.


The old ladies were extremely stupid, Someone should kill them already, i bet they wouldn't laugh if they saw a shiki attacking them =_=

About Kaori, allow me to disagree. All posts about her are the same. Everyone says she would hesitate, she would be a defenseless girl and would run away,etc. How can people know that? we never saw her being alone and attacked by a shiki, so, its too soon to make conclusions.

If they keep following the manga, until the end of this anime, i bet most of you will change your opinion about her

Monad said:
He just has the bad luck being in a village full of idiots and being a child.


Man, that´s totally true.


Monad said:
If he is a werewolf which is the most probable, why the hell would he need any blood?


hum...because...

attention, dont read if you´re not interested to know.




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Nov 20, 2010 7:06 PM

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Spoilers were there because it's the internet world... and because some people ask for it.
I've gone as far as spoiling myself with the manga... so... I don't have any question xD

and it was still nice, seeing this episode. It's exactly the part where the manga chapters were lost, so I can't wait to see the 17th to see how Akira's doing xDD
Nov 20, 2010 7:29 PM

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Hopefully someone saves Akira.
Nov 20, 2010 10:24 PM

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Is Takumi a werewolf or something?
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Nov 20, 2010 10:36 PM

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JUST TO REITERATE TO THOSE THAT MIGHT HAVE MISSED IT: RE "WEREWOLF" AND WHETHER IT WAS A SPOILER OR NOT:

It was mentioned in the last episode (referred to Tatsumi as a "jinrou", which means "werewolf") and we had a whole discussion about it near the end of the last discussion post (ep 15).

Mekiah said:
Monad said:
If he is a werewolf which is the most probable, why the hell would he need any blood?
I'm quite certain that the anime hasn't had a scene with Tatsumi drinking blood at all.

You are incorrect. Tatsumi was the person that turned the Doctor's wife into a shiki.

Why wouldn't a werewolf need blood? This is crazy Shiki universe, where a werewolf is a subset of the undead/shiki ("vampires"). Who knows what the fuck kind of logic they use.
Nov 21, 2010 12:33 AM

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stickymochi said:
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Hopefully someone saves Akira.


I hope so too. I mean, it was partly his fault for being in that situation now, but it would just be too sad if he dies...

Sunako seemed like a really lonely person to me after knowing her past.
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Mekiah said:
yamakasi said:

You are incorrect. Tatsumi was the person that turned the Doctor's wife into a shiki.

Why wouldn't a werewolf need blood? This is crazy Shiki universe, where a werewolf is a subset of the undead/shiki ("vampires"). Who knows what the fuck kind of logic they use.

Pardon my blunder in that case.

But if that's the case then...
Monad said:

If he is a werewolf which is the most probable, why the hell would he need any blood?

Well, they could be doing either or with this: He's literally a werewolf and drinks blood, or he's not literally a werewolf, but a buffed up vampire and was decided to be called a werewolf. In either case, it's anime, do you really need to be bound by logic?


Actually there's no scene with Natsumi drinking blood : he brings friends ( vampires with him ) : like the day he asked Tohru !! : The job was done by Megumi.
+ His eyes were normal like natsuno

Actually the reference to Natsumi as being a werewolf was made twice : once in the funeral and once about 4 episode earlier.

An anime shouldn't be bound by logic but should be bound by its own logic!! if not you will see pokemons running in the next episode o_0
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Mekiah said:
Monad said:
If he is a werewolf which is the most probable, why the hell would he need any blood?
I'm quite certain that the anime hasn't had a scene with Tatsumi drinking blood at all.

DoubleDango said:
Is Takumi a werewolf or something?
Well, not to sound rude or anything, but if you paid any attention to what happened last episode it was clearly stated that Tatsumi is a werewolf.


Not to sound rude or anything, but if you paid any attention to what I just wrote: I clearly stated 'Takumi' and not 'Tatsumi'.
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Nov 21, 2010 4:00 AM

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Valandis said:
Megumi <3


D:


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DoubleDango said:
Is Takumi a werewolf or something?


Who´s Takumi?!

dustinthewind said:
Actually there's no scene with Natsumi drinking blood : he brings friends ( vampires with him ) : like the day he asked Tohru !! : The job was done by Megumi.
+ His eyes were normal like natsuno


Who´s Natsumi?!

And well guys, Tatsumi usually has his eyes normal, but he also has "shiki mode on" eyes. So the logical thing to deduce here is that Tatsumi also drinks blood, but since he is special, he might stand the hunger for much more time. Also, who do you think that bit Toshio´s wife?!



oh and a p.s- the preview of next episode seems like AWESOME! to those who want to know the scenes showed in the preview click on the spoiler:
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Orulyon said:
Also, who do you think that bit Toshio´s wife?!


In the manga it was really clear that Tatsumi bit his wife. You saw him leaning over her and afterwards fleeing away with Toshio witnessing everything. It's a shame they left that out of the anime.
Nov 21, 2010 7:11 AM
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No one even mentioned bouncing boobies? >.<
Nov 21, 2010 7:12 AM
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Orulyon said:
DoubleDango said:
Is Takumi a werewolf or something?


Who´s Takumi?!

dustinthewind said:
Actually there's no scene with Natsumi drinking blood : he brings friends ( vampires with him ) : like the day he asked Tohru !! : The job was done by Megumi.
+ His eyes were normal like natsuno


Who´s Natsumi?!

And well guys, Tatsumi usually has his eyes normal, but he also has "shiki mode on" eyes. So the logical thing to deduce here is that Tatsumi also drinks blood, but since he is special, he might stand the hunger for much more time. Also, who do you think that bit Toshio´s wife?!



My bad! this is a killing proof ! The logical thing is what you said : he stands hanger! since he never had a face of a thirsty guy like other shiki!
I guess a werewolf in this anime is not your typical anime werewolf! it's a vampire with an A+ grade!
Nov 21, 2010 7:50 AM

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Natsuno is one of the walking during the day ;D nice

in this episode, you will die horribly... *laughs just as shion*
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Nov 21, 2010 11:47 AM

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Just keeps getting better. more here http://wp.me/p12uiW-1Km
Nov 21, 2010 5:06 PM

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Lol shit I meant Yuuki Natsuno lol, was watching Initial D and yeah...
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i love Megumi, shes freaking awesome lol but WOW, it just keep getting better and better =]
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Orulyon said:
I wonder why i dont feel any pity for Sunako. I mean, sure it is hard for a vampire kid to become orphan but that doesn't give her the right to kill an entire village just to "make a family".


I feel exactly the same. I might seem cold-hearted, but I'm not weeping over her sob story at all. All she has done is whine about how her life was ruined, but what about the lives SHE has ruined? She's just a brat. I dislike her greatly.


Im disappointed with Akira. He should have gone prepared with some amulet stuff inside his pocket, but he tried to play the hero. Although, i admit that he had good intentions and was willing to do something. He was brave, but not fast enough. Tatsumi always appears at the right time, damn.


Oh I don't know if he managed to buy his amulet in the end? Because he mentioned about getting one. And..




I keep disliking Megumi. She´s a good villain, she really can piss me off. Anyway, love her stylish clothes, lol.


I hate her.

did i mention that Natsuno is a sexy HOT werewolf?kya ~~~


I love Nats.


thank heaven they didn't showed the monk, he depresses me

Overall great ep!


He's a depressive. All he thinks about is killing himself. He's a disappointment as the series progresses, because he was so into investigating the deaths before and he seemed like a likeable and intelligent character. Then he decided he won't kill, not even shikis, but he was perfectly alright with killing himself. I don't understand his train of thoughts. Didn't he weigh the possibility of becoming a shiki by surrendering to Sunako and that he might end up killing others, hence contradicting his stance of not killing people? It's just fucked up.
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Avalie said:

Oh I don't know if Akira managed to buy his amulet in the end? Because he mentioned about getting one.


Well,



thank heaven they didn't showed the monk, he depresses me


Avalie said:
He's a depressive. All he thinks about is killing himself. He's a disappointment as the series progresses, because he was so into investigating the deaths before and he seemed like a likeable and intelligent character. Then he decided he won't kill, not even shikis, but he was perfectly alright with killing himself. I don't understand his train of thoughts. Didn't he weigh the possibility of becoming a shiki by surrendering to Sunako and that he might end up killing others, hence contradicting his stance of not killing people? It's just fucked up.


wow, you just took the words out of my mouth. I apologize to the monk fans, no offense intended, but this are precisely my feelings.

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Nov 22, 2010 10:50 PM

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Natsuno is special. Like Tatsumi. Awesome cake. :D
Nov 23, 2010 3:23 AM

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ScarletMuse said:
Natsuno is special. Like Tatsumi. Awesome cake. :D


I do hope that they explain why the hell Natsuno became special.
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canephalanx said:
ScarletMuse said:
Natsuno is special. Like Tatsumi. Awesome cake. :D


I do hope that they explain why the hell Natsuno became special.


Because he is one of the main characters,and because he is so cool <3

Natsuno just had to be special.If not he wholdn't be a challenege for Tatsumi and the anime whould get boring.


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Akira...

he was so brave...

I know Tatsumi is a baddie, but he's really bad :(

Akirrraaaaaaaa~~~~

I had tears in my eyes. This anime is just SO GOOD.

So Natsuno really is a Shiki? Or he isn't?
Nov 24, 2010 5:20 AM

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Akira...

he was so brave...

I know Tatsumi is a baddie, but he's really bad :(

Akirrraaaaaaaa~~~~

I had tears in my eyes. This anime is just SO GOOD.

So Natsuno really is a Shiki? Or he isn't?


I feel sorry Akira to T~T
He is my second fav character after Natsuno ofc x)

And yes,Natsuno is a Shiki :)


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My god, could this episode have been any better?
They had an adorable Sunako, lovable Megumi being her lovely self, epic Natsuno sitting on a tree and a pulse-pounding ending where I think he will be saved by.

Dumb brats blaming everything on Megumi because she is the hottest Shiki.
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What a disappointment. I was hoping he got one before going to Ikumi's house. And yes, I do have a hunch of who that someone might be. hehe :D

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Dumb brats blaming everything on Megumi because she is the hottest Shiki.


Lolz dumb otakus putting Megumi on an altar just because she has big boobs.
Nov 25, 2010 10:59 AM

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Bura said:

In the manga it was really clear that Tatsumi bit his wife. You saw him leaning over her and afterwards fleeing away with Toshio witnessing everything. It's a shame they left that out of the anime.


I think anime staffs omitted that scene with the intention of keeping consistency of story and Tatsumi's action.
If Tatsumi had bit and killed Toshio's wife, he could have detected Toshio's plan that makes his wife be shiki. Tatsumi should have known whether her funeral takes place or not.
it was kind of unnatural that it didn't goes so in the Manga.

in this anime, on some parts, seems staffs're trying to adapt and revise those kind of incoherences. like, strange old woman was staring Akira running to that house in this episode, and also in next episode 17, they changed story much.
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Avalie said:
HawthorneKitty said:

Dumb brats blaming everything on Megumi because she is the hottest Shiki.


Lolz dumb otakus putting Megumi on an altar just because she has big boobs.

Lulz dumb otakus thinking we do it just because of boobs.
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If I can remember, to be like Tatsumi you need to kill a certain number of people (I really can't remember if that was it)

But Natsuno walking away without his hood on top from Dr. Toshio seems weird and his eye isn't from the Shiki's

Just confirmed from the spoiler of MAL
Now this explains everything..
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....darn Akira. :/
Nov 28, 2010 3:58 AM

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Scary Tatsumi is scary.
And I felt sorry for Sunako. She was looking for her family for 80-100 years. ;_;
Nov 29, 2010 2:03 PM

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I gotta say that the kid was brave looks like he has no chance of getting out

its funny how some take it seriously when it comes to sucking peoples blood

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This anime is seriously getting really intense.
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Poor Akira. I'm hoping Natsuno comes in to save the day.

Though IMO, being a Shiki > being a human. Only problem is the uncertainty of rising and the rather agonizing death. I would've considered the gamble if it were me.

Oh and the other guy was a werewolf. Completely expected it.
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Oosran said:
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I don't want all the Shikis to die. O.o
I mean, sure, they can kill Megumi and Tatsumi and Masao and Nao and Lady GaGa, but can't they at least spare Sunako, Tohru and Natsuno? ;w;
I don't want all the Shikis to die either. o.O
They could go ahead and kill Tatsumi, Masao, Nao, Tohru, etc., etc., but spare Sunako, Natsuno and Megumi, mkay? ( ´・‿-)~ Yes, I said spare Megumi.

I agree except on the Megumi part, I want her to die a terrible violent death with her guts all over the floor.


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Too bad it ended
Dec 26, 2010 12:20 PM

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So Natsuno is a shiki, and he will fight against Kirishiki. I wonder what's their plan.
"We will kill all shiki...including me."
awww, i disliked it, but it's quite logical, however i think that if he would stay alive he could find way how to eat to not kill people as he told it to Tohru few episodes earlier.
Jan 4, 2011 7:19 AM
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One question:

Why does Megumi hate Kaori so much?
Jan 5, 2011 11:27 AM

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Kid....why'd you have to go alone??
Now you leave your sister behind to figure things out by herself!!
Jan 6, 2011 9:43 AM
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Damn you Akira! You had the responsibility to make things right! Well, I guess I'm being to tough. He had no way of knowing there were shiki like Tatsumi who can walk around during the day... Poor guy, I don't want him to die for good nor to become a shiki. And Kaori's gonna be desperate now as she'll be all one her own. And she never had the resolve her brother did so...

Natsuno is like Tatsumi? I mean, he can come out during the day... Amazing^^ I loved his little conversation with the doctor. What bothers me is that they haven't attacked Ozaki while they totally could have since both his house and the clinic are "open to shiki". This is strange since everyone else who tried to oppose them is being targeted but also means that he can be attacked anytime.
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Akira you shounen idiot! Sigh, they think they can do it. But they can't. Dammit Natsuno save him! SOMEONE save him!

Natsuno ;_;

And stupid villagers. They're still in the village despite the death toll. Really. Isn't that just plain weird and stupid?
Jan 8, 2011 10:01 AM

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I started to like Megumi lol,she's a nice villain :p,and her fashion sense is good too xD
If akira will die who will fight the shiki now?only Ozaki will remain and i bet that akira's sister won't do ****

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Once again, Tatsumi is portrayed as an absolute monster. Leaving the watch in front of Akira was an act of nightmarish cruelty.

Hopefuly, Natsuno or Toshio deals with him in an appropriate manner, although a Shiki "victory" in the village seems an almost foregone conclusion.
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DAMN YOU TATSUMI
Poor Akira D: He really was willing to do something other than just sit on his ass, and that's his reward?

...Megumi needs to die a very painful death.
Tohru remains my favourite Shiki :P Ozaki put a smile on my face just by appearing for one minute. And Natsuno...doesn't he seem to be the special kind of shiki, just like Tatsumi? I mean, walks around in daylight and stuff...
Also, Sunako's shrieks inside the coffin were terrifying x__X
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WHAAAAAAAAT, a werewolf?
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