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Jul 3, 2021 1:13 PM

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Same reason arte is a good anime.

Good world building, and good character writing/development, with clear direction. Very good art and music that makes it very immersive. Hell the first seasons even mirror each other as they try and deal witha POS brat as a tutor.

Rudeus is a POS, that's his nature. But he is a very well written and realistic character. This is very rare in anime. These days 9/10 Protagonists work in a single dimension, and require heavy manipulation of the viewer through unbelievable circumstance to fake forced development or garner sympathy from the viewer.

This show doesn't give a fuck what the viewer thinks of Rudeus, its there to tell a story, not to get you to suck MC's cock.
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Jul 5, 2021 11:10 PM
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Every person has bad parts and every person also has good partsm Whether he's bad or not is entirely subjective! He's not a terrible character though, objectively(in terms of literary writing) speaking. He's got great development and progression.



As a person though, again that's subjective. His bad parts are how he sniffed his maid panties, how he sniffed Eris' sweaty underweae, how he fantasized about child Sylphy when he's 30+ on the inside and how he acted like he was sentimental on his 10th birthday in front of everybody but really wasn't. But how about his good parts? The way he protected Eris on the Dark Continent althroughout, how he was even prepared to commit Genocide and wipe that city off the map. Here are light novel spoilers but he was also ready to swallow his pride and lick his opponent's foot just to beg them not to kill his family.



Yeah, to simplify, I like him because he's a family man. Thats the main reason hrough and through. Other than that I like his humility that can be justified because of his past life when he was a NEET. Due to that though, he always overestimates his opponents and underestimates himself which can be a weakness because of the hesitation it breeds and a strength because of it allows him to analyze more throughly.



He has some fair amount of good and bad sides but that doesn't mean you can declare that all he is, is bad. However you're free to like or dislike him, you're also free to hate or love him. Because, all in all, that's what makes a good character right? The capacity to both be hated and be loved.



Edit: Okay, I missed the question. The question was actually why we like the story not the character. But to not make the text above useless, I'll say that Rudeus is one of the main reasons why I like the story itself. Other than that, I like it because of the other characters. Mainly: Sylphy, Eris, Roxy, Orsted, Luke, Paul, Ghislaine, Princess Ariel, Aisha, Norn, Cliff, Zanoba, Elinalise, Ruijerd, Jino, Niña and the Grandma Claire Latrea. I read the novel months ago but the characters are still vivid in my memory. That's why I really like it. Another reason I like it are the different character relationships, interactions and connections.



So to say this light novel is really Character-Driven is why I'm for it. It also got decent world-building(large world-building) though.
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Jul 11, 2021 9:33 AM
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So Rudeas


Let's start with I enjoy the show, so it's not hating on it.

Regardless he's scum because he does what you pointed out. Many shows have fan service and kids doing just what you pointed out: and for the most part not many people have an issue. Not like it's rare in anime to see a couple kids kissing or a grouping.... Or more. The issue most have is rudy is not a kid, he is a fully functional adult (well I guess not fully functional in more than one way.... 😂) But he's acting out as a horny teenager when he should know better.

Again to me it's part of his character growth and it's not real people so I'm not going to be pissed or angry and just enjoy the ride. But to say you don't understand why people would be uncomfortable? It's a grown man feeling up a teen girl and young teen girl. I fully get people being uncomfortable with it.(not that I agree)
But yes he's scum because of his age, not because he's a horny teen, he's not he's a horny adult in a teens/pre teens body. After the future acts as he becomes and adult it becomes less uncomfortable. But ya...


Not saying that you're wrong, I can't either fully understand your point..

What do you mean by fully functional adult? *

Physical age
Social age
Psych

Sorry to bother you.

Also
I'm not really good with English sorry for any mistakes.
Jul 11, 2021 5:43 PM

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just because someone is a bad person doesn't mean they're a bad character
Jul 18, 2021 4:46 AM
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I finished the anime anticipating it getting better as I went on since so many people spoke so highly of it. I couldn't get past Rudy's perversion. I hoped that he would understand that the way he speaks and acts around women would have harder consequences and yes, he does get hit for it, but it's like his actions are rewarded in the end. I feel like if they replaced the MC and toned down the ecchi aspects of it, I'd enjoy it more. Not that there's anything wrong with ecchi, it just felt uncomfortable especially with Rudy being a whole pedophile interacting with children. I really enjoyed the animation and the world that was created but the characters all fell flat.
Aug 2, 2021 3:03 PM

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The unfiltered way they talk is refreshing. They feel free from the constraints of what is appropriate and civil. I for maybe the first time in many years see anime in a more realistic and relatable light. I never thought I wanted such a thing, or expected such a thing from anime. Yet in this series I am able to appreciate how close it resembles real life.

I mean the way Paul talks and acts is realistic. Roxy acts in a way that contradicts her cool persona. And many other things, which are like a brand new expiriance to me.
Aug 6, 2021 3:58 PM

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A video that has a shit ton of spoilers but is a great video and sums up a lot of what I love about the series in general.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9qp6l9Dm60
Aug 6, 2021 6:31 PM

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I love all aspects of Mushoku Tensei like story, plot, characters writing, world building and more. For me this is a masterpiece.
Aug 7, 2021 3:01 AM
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Forget the anime....read manga or better....the "LN"
Aug 7, 2021 5:52 AM
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Honestly I think it’s the point that you can’t stand him.
He’s meant to be a perverted, awkward man with little understanding of human emotion, because the only emotion he ever knew between other people was always pain. He doesn’t know how to cope with people completely, and doesn’t know how to handle when people genuinely care for him because no one had ever done that before. With him being the way that he is and in a world that he’s in now, he has the ability to grow and learn into a new person not only in body but in spirit as well.
When he’s in those moments with the God character, he still sees himself as his previous life with how he projects himself. He still thinks that he’s a shitty person from his previous life and while he grasps that his body is different and the fact he has powers, I don’t think he’s grasped as a character that that isn’t him anymore, that he’s not some depressed disgusting hermit anymore, and that he’s Rudeus Greyrat, and he does have the ability to be a great person.
That is why he’s a great character, because the amount of growth he can obtain is literally unlimited.
Aug 8, 2021 12:47 AM
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I can't really disagree if you say you dislike the anime, but unlike many other stories, Thai anime covers like a 1/5 of the story, it gets AMAZING, the development in Rudeas in incredible, and I can say the web novel was my favorite thing I've ever read
Aug 9, 2021 1:21 PM

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You need to understand that this story is about growing as a person, don't you see that Rudeus went from a neet otaku 34 year old ugly bastard otaku that used to masturbate to lolis all time to someone that tries to have sex with a minor and also assaults them each two minutes? Huge character development.
 



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Aug 11, 2021 3:30 PM

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The thing about this anime that I love is that if you go past the plot of just fantasy and isekai you can see there is a much deeper plot. You have to understand that each characters was intended to be written like that. For example, Rudeus. On the outside he is really annoying and controversial but you kind of have to understand he was intended to written as such a loser and this is kind of his journey into being a good person. This is what I took from this series and I might be wrong, but Rudeus is not that bad of a character.
Aug 12, 2021 5:35 PM
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I started this anime expecting something truly controversial with a despicable main character because it's what people on the internet made me think it was by their comments. Turns out y'all are just snowflakes who take absurdly seriously a work of fiction that is, for my surprise, really good.
Aug 12, 2021 5:35 PM
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I started this anime expecting something truly controversial with a despicable main character because it's what people on the internet made me think it was by their comments. Turns out y'all are just snowflakes who take absurdly seriously a work of fiction that is, for my surprise, really good.
Aug 12, 2021 5:35 PM
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I started this anime expecting something truly controversial with a despicable main character because it's what people on the internet made me think it was by their comments. Turns out y'all are just snowflakes who take absurdly seriously a work of fiction that is, for my surprise, really good.
Aug 19, 2021 12:30 PM

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I just finished it and I loved it. that animation is movie grade its so good. Also i liked all of the characters. i cant wait for season 2
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Aug 21, 2021 9:15 PM
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This anime is what isekai should have been and the reason why you don't like it is because you haven't seen the complete character development and his regrets of his current and previous life yet (all shown in the light novel) The character development and Rudeus's slow progression between his previous and current life along with how he begins to become attatched to the people around him and how this world begins to develope is why many people love this series and what caused this series when it was still a webnovel to cause the modern isekai genre
Aug 23, 2021 10:51 PM
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Because Its one of the best isekai and its astheatically beautiful and unique
Aug 23, 2021 10:51 PM
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Because Its one of the best isekai and its astheatically beautiful and unique
Aug 23, 2021 11:21 PM

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Because this is the best isekai ever written and created besides Re:zero. Both are unique and not generic unlike other isekai
Aug 29, 2021 6:55 AM

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Welp... I can't blame you. As someone who reads 21 volumes of the novels, I can say Rudeus is a bad character... JUST IN THE BEGINNING!

Rudeus will continue to get development over time, until he grows up. In the end, he will be a wise father, and not always horny, although he is still horny, but not as bad as he used to be.

But that's still a long time... maybe it will appear in season 3 or season 4, if this anime releases 12 episodes per season.
Aug 29, 2021 10:42 AM

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I will never understand this retarded argument "MC IS BAD, THEREFORE OTHER CHARACTERS NEED TO BE GOOD"

Let's say even if he was a bad MC, why the fuck would others have to be good characters????? Where is the Anime/Manga/LN rules saying that??????

Who the fuck set that in stone?????


I seem to be missing out so please guide me, thank you.

Your grasp of a good/bad character seems to be so fucking flat that trying to explain to you would just be a waste of time, you would need to gather more information beforehand before anyone can even explain the concept of this, it's not a hard concept, you are simply so far away from grasping something other humans usually easily can.
Sep 4, 2021 11:02 AM
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I want to know, just for the data, what do you think the end of the series will be?
Sep 4, 2021 11:48 AM
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blank said:
I spoiled myself a bit to verify my suspicions, and here's what I got (no major spoilers):


Mate are you sure that we readed the same novel?
blank said:
I spoiled myself a bit to verify my suspicions, and here's what I got (no major spoilers):


Are you sure we are talking about the same novel?

Men his dad dies, he looses a hand, looks at her wife dead without a arm and people throwing stones at her, his family stays away from him, he never sees her daughter anymore, his other wife dies in a horrible way, his sister, best friend and apprentice are chopped into squares and left in his house, literally looses everything
Sep 5, 2021 10:41 AM

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I don't think Rudeus is a bad character. A very well written character. Many people don't like the anime much because they are uncomfortable with the ecchi parts. In my opinion, the story was quite enjoyable.
Sep 8, 2021 4:08 AM
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StrayChannel95 said:
blank said:
I spoiled myself a bit to verify my suspicions, and here's what I got (no major spoilers):


Mate are you sure that we readed the same novel?
blank said:
I spoiled myself a bit to verify my suspicions, and here's what I got (no major spoilers):


Are you sure we are talking about the same novel?

Men his dad dies, he looses a hand, looks at her wife dead without a arm and people throwing stones at her, his family stays away from him, he never sees her daughter anymore, his other wife dies in a horrible way, his sister, best friend and apprentice are chopped into squares and left in his house, literally looses everything


damn! thats sound to me mc is been pathatic... I read the manga till 72 I like it so far but after reading the spoilers I'm gonna drop it soon...
Sep 8, 2021 4:42 PM

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The way the MC was really perverted did put me off quite a bit in the early episodes tbh, but it seems like that aspect's mostly disappeared by the last few episodes. If the second season stays more like the later part of this season and less like the start, I think it should be fine.
Sep 10, 2021 8:56 PM
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Kcjpunk_01 said:
StrayChannel95 said:


Mate are you sure that we readed the same novel?


Are you sure we are talking about the same novel?

Men his dad dies, he looses a hand, looks at her wife dead without a arm and people throwing stones at her, his family stays away from him, he never sees her daughter anymore, his other wife dies in a horrible way, his sister, best friend and apprentice are chopped into squares and left in his house, literally looses everything


damn! thats sound to me mc is been pathatic... I read the manga till 72 I like it so far but after reading the spoilers I'm gonna drop it soon...


-That happens in another timeline so it's ok, but believe me, this shit will get on fire when that happens
Sep 10, 2021 9:42 PM

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TBH I don’t know why I like this but still really enjoyed it & looking forward to the next seasons.
Sep 15, 2021 7:21 PM
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StrayChannel95 said:
blank said:
I spoiled myself a bit to verify my suspicions, and here's what I got (no major spoilers):


Mate are you sure that we readed the same novel?
blank said:
I spoiled myself a bit to verify my suspicions, and here's what I got (no major spoilers):


Are you sure we are talking about the same novel?



Actually, I think you might've read a different novel. Some of those things happened in the original web novel, but were changed in the light novel publication. What exactly changed? I don't know, but I recall the author removing some of that.

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Umm, just wait is what I can say. The character development is top level I'm still reading the novel 12 volumes of official translation of the light novel and now I'm reading web novel. The plot goes complex. New characters introduced, things explained, and everything is perfect as of now. It isn't just some kinky or cliche type isekai but totally different. The new world is like totally different from the world he came and uhmm tonikaku, just read it. Light novel it is. My fav isekai and even in my top 5.
Sep 19, 2021 1:40 AM
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Han-S-C said:
StrayChannel95 said:


Mate are you sure that we readed the same novel?


Are you sure we are talking about the same novel?



Actually, I think you might've read a different novel. Some of those things happened in the original web novel, but were changed in the light novel publication. What exactly changed? I don't know, but I recall the author removing some of that.

actually, the light novel is officially translated for only 12 volumes. 13th comes this 23rd. And total no of volumes are 25. So there's this chapter in web novel "Turning Point 4". This happens in that chapter. And a lot of things are revealed. It's just awesome. I've never read almost anything with such interest other than my studies
Sep 19, 2021 2:00 AM

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Mushoku tensei feels like an anime with a wasted potential all due to that simp MC.
He is both a badly written character and bad in personality. His whole life sucked, yet he never tried to change it. He got a whole new opportunity to finally start anew just to be the same, or maybe a worse person than what he used to be. I think in isekai they should just be thrown away into a different world rather than being born to a mother with all your memories still left. Morally saying, him being born with such desires was disgusting. His father is way worse off than rudeus, It was supposed to be like father like son, but again it turned out disgusting.
Other characters like that old man doing stuff in a tower the first thing in the morning with a maid and wasnt even ashamed when rudeus came out was yet again DISGUSTING.
So not only rudeusn but almost every other characters personality is disgusting and thats what makes them bad characters.
The only good thing about the show was the world building. The world building looks promising and those green haired tribe had me intrigued.

Oh and I almost forgot to mention how every single girl in this show is mistreated but they find it ok. Roxy is a great character but I would quite teaching after killing my students if they were to do the same thing as rudeus or that fat ugly rich kid. It goes way beyond your normal ecchines. I hated him stealing clothes, making weird statues and peeping all the time, and the worst part is that roxy doesnt seem to do anything about it.
The maid is not left out as well and I forgot the names of the green haired girl (who is the most decent character) and the red haired small girl. They are kids yet the adults want them to share a bed, How weird.
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Sep 21, 2021 6:00 PM
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Bad person, not a bad character
Sep 27, 2021 10:43 AM
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People that try to look purpose in life in anime are just sad, or that judge some fantasy character as a real human being. It is just some cartoon that was made by japaneses, if you are ofended by what some fantasy character did in an anime cry about it on twitter to try to cancel it lel.
Oct 6, 2021 10:56 AM
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Ok so first- the story about Paul attacking the maid was told by her, of course everyone immediately wants to feel that outrage high but to me it just sounded like he woke her up for a fuck and I’m pretty sure she dtf. We know this because Paul specifically says to Rudeus to never force someone. I know everyone would love to bitch about his raping ways but how about actually watching and listening instead of just going right to sniffing some grade a outrage?

This is a male wish fulfillment anime. I see girls fucking dying and raving about BL, reverse harems and Otome and it’s the exact same fucking thing. Yet the second a male character sleeps around he’s scum… it’s double standards guys. I was born female, though I identify as nb, but that’s not the point I’m just throwing that in there FYI.

Paul very obviously isn’t abusive or a rapist, the only thing anyone has to complain about is that he cheated on his wife and yet again we’re basically told that it only happens once and that he wasn’t the instigator. And there’s this thing called it’s none of your fucking business what goes on in other people relationships, if someone wants to forgive and move into a polygamous relationship with their maid, well it’s a free fucking world inside fantasy land.

Im just so sick of people shooting up and getting high on fucking outrage. If your not into that shit go watch something else, there’s plenty of vanilla, feel good anime out there. You have enough info on this anime online to know exactly what kinda content you should be expecting so don’t bitch at me. And for fucks sake don’t let the culture shock give you an aneurysm. This anime is nothing on the deviancy scale it’s teetering over the edge of try hard tbh.

Rudeus as a character is bland on purpose, it’s why the female mc in shoujo is always the most boring thing you’ll ever meet, so the audience can project. That’s literally the whole point.
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It's dope good show 👍🏻
Oct 8, 2021 12:56 AM
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SatouMatsuzaka said:
Bad person, not a bad character


He's also a bad character. A lot of the dialogues are by him and many of them are hypocritical and self serving. This is a power fantasy and the author is doing the usual thing, make the MC OP, try to make him looks smart while arranging things in the back ground to make things go the character's way, purposely set the word so that he can enjoy the harem with no drawback. Incidentally every woman in the series are so tolerant and forgiving to being sexually manipulated, assaulted, and abused.

It's disgusting and immature.
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its rather a retarded mindset when all you say he's trash without compensating a good or at least viable reason. Rudeus is an amazing character as he represent change while also maintaining his "past self" in the sense of the trauma of bullying however he uses his past as a catalyst to become a better him of the now. his mindset is nuanced as as well due to the fact that he's both a man a child which helps create contradictory actions which is much needed as a mc.
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its rather a retarded mindset when all you say he's trash without compensating a good or at least viable reason. Rudeus is an amazing character as he represent change while also maintaining his "past self" in the sense of the trauma of bullying however he uses his past as a catalyst to become a better him of the now. his mindset is nuanced as as well due to the fact that he's both a man a child which helps create contradictory actions which is much needed as a mc.
Oct 9, 2021 7:37 AM

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Just the world itself it’s worth it for me. You can see how the creator put all of his imagination and passion into it. The different cultures and races, the skills and magic system, the species… everything shows great richness and detail.
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My stance, based solely on the first season, is that this is an incredibly overrated show with an unlikeable MC. Story wise it's pretty ok, but generic. My guess is that the hype and the high rating accounts for future events in the later parts of the novel. Season 1 by itself does not deserve even an 8/10, more like a 7.

I don't have much expectations for season 2 but we'll see if my opinion changes.
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His whole life sucked, yet he never tried to change it.

He gave up because of the lack of chances. Same thing with the main demographic of the show. Normies like you don't get it. Go back and watch Fate-shit.
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Throni said:
FZREMAKE said:
His whole life sucked, yet he never tried to change it.

He gave up because of the lack of chances. Same thing with the main demographic of the show. Normies like you don't get it. Go back and watch Fate-shit.


Atleast fate better than mushoku tensei.
I dont hate mushoku tensei as a whole but you are morally corrupted to think that lack of chance caused this. Life doesnt give you chances, you have to make.
And what else a chance he needs, he got reborn into a new world with all his knowledge and memories. This is a golden opportunity to reflect on his past and improve his present (which he does) but whats the point if morally he is going to remain the same.
If you enjoyed the time you wasted, then its not a waste of time.

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my wife liked this anime because of Rudeus character

for me I liked the world setup the most but also Rudeus character is fun to watch
Oct 24, 2021 8:48 PM
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very good everything, too many horny scenes with children.
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Well if you have been in to anime long enough like ppl like me, you are probably about the same age has the protagonist at this point. And honestly I resonate with most decisions if not all that Rodeus does.

It just hits the spot, once you graduate from the basic shonen formula tittles series where justice always prevail if unreasonable.

Ps: Please understand that liking a certain show does not make you a good/bad person, as long you are able to distinguish reality from fiction you are a good human being.
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For the same reason people like any other isekai.
Oct 30, 2021 6:27 PM
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Because you touch yourself at night, OP.
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