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Mar 14, 2021 1:24 PM

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Ackerman-Levi said:
I haven't watched the entire episode yet, but I did find a clip of Levi vs Monke Round 2 on YouTube. It was ok, but extremely underwhelming in comparison to Season 3 Part 2's Levi vs Monke. The lack of Arifumi Imai (or someone of his caliber) combined with CGI Monke really let down this fight, and I really hope these two aspects are fixed for atleast the first few episodes of Season 4 Part 2 (I'm aware that the latter portions of the season will be impossible to animate without CGI)/ the movie.


it wasn't close to Imai quality true

they need to fix the trees on BD,since they won't be changing the CGI.. at the very least



https://streamable.com/d2hxws

S4P2 first episodes would have highest quality production wise but don't hold your breath

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AHHHH is how I feel. The table scene was done well!!


just wanna feel wanted by someone other than the police 😫
Mar 14, 2021 1:33 PM

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That beast titan cgi was not great ngl.. but seeing eren beat the absolute shit out of armin and Levi insult tf out of zeke carried the episode anyways so its cool
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Mar 14, 2021 1:42 PM
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That beast titan cgi was not great ngl.. but seeing eren beat the absolute shit out of armin and Levi insult tf out of zeke carried the episode anyways so its cool
The cgi was as good as in episode 7, it was not distracting at all for me so the fight scene was great
Mar 14, 2021 1:43 PM

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Louro_8 said:
Btw, anime-onlies, be careful.

I suggest you turn your profile comments off if you don't want to risk getting spoiled by some idiot.

I got a comment a few minutes ago spoiling chapter 138. Fortunately, I'm up to date with the manga. The idiot's account doesn't exist anymore. He might be lurking in the forums looking for whoever comments here to then go to his/her profile and spoil stuff.


I just got notified of a deleted comment on my account. It was probably them, who posted before realising that I'm up to date with the manga lmao. What a sad existence those trolls have.
Mar 14, 2021 1:49 PM
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Yet another amazing episode. It's a shame that it got cut by the earthquake warnings though, but hey, AOT can wait, but earthquake warnings cannot.

Eren had no filter at the start of this episode bruh.

Zeke's plan seemed to be going off so smoothly, but Levi came in and swooped all of that hype in their short-but-sweet fight scene.
Mar 14, 2021 1:55 PM

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After sailing the high seas and watching the episode with some reasonable subs online, yeah, it was a banger.

The scene with Eren, Armin and Mikasa was perfectly done. Loved the back and forth between them. Yuki Kaij is killing it as Eren this year. The dull, monotone, lifeless sounding Eren just fits his character at this point perfectly.

The Levi / Zeke fight actually gets better the more you watch it. The ApeTitan OST got me hyped AF, and the Levi/Kenny OST wasn't quite as good but still got me going. The mix of CGI and 2D was perfect until Levi chased Zeke through the forest and it just became a little choppy at times, but overall it was still far better than I'd expected it to be given there were no super-freelancers involved, and the staff were supposed worked to a nub again trying to get this out on time.

They didn't censor Zeke's mangled corpse either, so props to MAPPA for some good work there.

Obviously, there's a conversation which took place between Eren and Zeke which the audience and the rest of the Paradisians aren't privy to yet, but hopefully that gets revealed soon.

Hopefully the official release doesn't get postponed for more than a day or two.

The last two episodes have been minimum 9/10, and easily the best run of episodes since 5 through to 8.
Mar 14, 2021 1:55 PM

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Good ep, enjoyed seeing Armin get his shit rocked lmfao. Levi vs beat titan was still pretty good and did justice to the manga which is all I really care about.
Mar 14, 2021 1:55 PM
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WOW! he really thought he could escape LMFAO
cant wait for the full episode!
Sad to hear about the earthquake, hope everyone is alright
Mar 14, 2021 1:56 PM

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Very good episode, no doubt. It's a shame the they couldn't air the rest of the episode.
Mar 14, 2021 1:57 PM

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Haven't seen the ep yet. Is the streaming version affected by the earthquake as well?
Mar 14, 2021 2:01 PM

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Today I remembered when Hange-San spent the whole night telling Eren about her experiments - I miss those days.

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Mar 14, 2021 2:03 PM

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that eren vs armin scene was beautiful
Mar 14, 2021 2:06 PM

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Actar said:
Haven't seen the ep yet. Is the streaming version affected by the earthquake as well?

I think crunchyroll, funimation, etc have it all delayed by a day at the very least or something along those lines. The first 16ish minutes are available with fan subs though.
Mar 14, 2021 2:07 PM
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Finally seeing the "nasty" Eren table scene animated and more than anything, being expertly acted out, was one riveting watch. Mikasa breaking down after being insulted made for compelling, yet very sad viewing. My feelings of Isayama going the wrong narrative direction after reaching the sea have not changed at all though. I have made them abundantly clear in the manga discussions so I won't dwell on them here, but I still feel that I'm seeing an impostor when I see Eren.
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Mar 14, 2021 2:08 PM
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goddamn the table scene hurt to watch. it was nice to see levi beat zeke's ass again. hopefully the rest of the episode will come out soon
Mar 14, 2021 2:13 PM
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Farabeuf said:
Finally seeing the "nasty" Eren table scene animated and more than anything, being expertly acted out, was one riveting watch. Mikasa breaking down after being insulted made for compelling, yet very sad viewing. My feelings of Isayama going the wrong narrative direction after reaching the sea have not changed at all though. I have made them abundantly clear in the manga discussions so I won't dwell on them here, but I still feel that I'm seeing an impostor when I see Eren.


Impostor? Does it mean Eren is SUS? 😳😳😳
Mar 14, 2021 2:15 PM
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'I want to have a nice, calm talk'

So that was a ****king lie.

I get Lelouch vibes tho, was hoping that is not the case, but this episode made me even more certain.
Mar 14, 2021 2:28 PM

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Louro_8 said:
Btw, anime-onlies, be careful.

I suggest you turn your profile comments off if you don't want to risk getting spoiled by some idiot.

I got a comment a few minutes ago spoiling chapter 138. Fortunately, I'm up to date with the manga. The idiot's account doesn't exist anymore. He might be lurking in the forums looking for whoever comments here to then go to his/her profile and spoil stuff.


I just got notified of a deleted comment on my account. It was probably them, who posted before realising that I'm up to date with the manga lmao. What a sad existence those trolls have.

Yeah, it probably was. You posted in this thread before, so he's definitely reading this thread to target people.
What really happened at the forest back in S2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrqZ80FvQDQ
Mar 14, 2021 2:32 PM

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damn based Eren laying the smackdown to tucasa and armheen. Still think they should've got a new VA for S4 Armin, or at least direct inoue to give a deeper voice (which I'm sure she can do just fine) lmao


Levi vs monke was alright I guess, kinda flew by pretty quickly with that little buildup tbh
Mar 14, 2021 2:38 PM

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I'm still convinced Mikassa will kill Eren either through necessity or as an act of mercy. I cant seen how else they will wrap this up in 2 episodes. Its a shame the author went in this direction, instead of giving him more personality he now less less and has turned into a bit of a dick (not sure if this is intentional or not at this point)
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Mar 14, 2021 2:39 PM

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wow what a episode, im glad armin got at least one good punch in. Eren is taking it too far to make mikasa cry and armin upset like dang.
The whole scene with Levi and Zeke was satisfying to see him beat him once again, sad the whole episode didnt air tho

Mar 14, 2021 2:43 PM

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David Whitaker returns in my wholesome OST with Hiroyuki Sawano, that's all I need right there.
Don't believe the hype.
Mar 14, 2021 2:50 PM
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Jesus the animation was terrible and the character design has been getting less and less consistent. There were some good shots on the Levi part though.
Mar 14, 2021 2:52 PM
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Yeah levi just murdered his comrades lemme play a rap music real quick, the only thing worse than the fight was ost choice.
ngl I was expecting the episode to look alot worse but they managed to pull something mediocre atleast. Still compared to previous battles this was utter garbage. Look at those off-model drawing even when they use a static image of levi. The schedules fault, i know but that doesn't mean it wasnt trash
Mar 14, 2021 2:58 PM

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Tellatez said:
A lot of shots of characters being off-model.
EMA table scene was done great. Seeing Eren btfo of Armin animated was satisfying to watch. And Mikasa being exactly what Eren told her. Instead of helping her friend, she's just crying there being useless in the background.
Zeke vs Levi was great. Also, Zeke is so hilarious to watch.
Did they seriously cut the part that talks about the Historia pregnant due date cuz that's kinda important.
Floch looked good this episode. We didn't see Keith getting beat up.
Broadcast got cut due to an earthquake. The full episode is also delayed I hope it isn't postponed to next week.
sometimes this attitude by mikasa blows me like how she immediately pinned armin to the table just the same way eren knew she would consciously listen to him. Levi just clapping everyone in sight. But great episode , nothing less.


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Mar 14, 2021 3:17 PM

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Quick question, why did Levi say "their bodies didn't freeze up though, was that a lie?". Can anyone explain the lie?
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Mar 14, 2021 3:17 PM

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So only a little more than 1/2 of the episode actually aired because of an earthquake, which I have never seen before.

What we got was crazy though. Eren decided to burn his bridges with Mikasa & Armin and gave conflicting answers about whether he is on Zeke’s side. I don’t believe that Eren always hated Mikasa, but could that explain why he attacked her that one time when he was a titan?

Levi vs Zeke round 2 was crazy. The forest really was a huge advantage with Zeke losing just as quickly as last time. I hope the rest of the episode comes soon.
Mar 14, 2021 3:20 PM

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I'm still convinced Mikassa will kill Edren either through necessity or as an act of mercy. I cant seen how else they will wrap this up in 2 episodes. Its a shame the author went in this direction, instead of giving him more personality he now less less and has turned into a bit of a dick (not sure if this is intentional or not at this point)
The series aint ending this season, there’ll be 23 chapters of 40 pages each to adapt.



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deg said:
table scene got a lot of off model drawings
and the fight between Armin and Eren is not sakuga worthy
the Levi vs Beast Titan fight is animated good enough but not so much of a wow factor
no Imai lol people are expecting him on this episode

that breaking news though The Rumbling started i mean an Earthquake started lol but good thing the quake is just magnitude 4.6

Did you really expect a simple 10 seconds scene of Eren pounding Armin to be a sakuga worthy moment ? LOL And about Imai, whoever was expecting him to be part of this episode was setting themself up for dissapointment.
Mar 14, 2021 3:23 PM

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Levi vs. Beast titan exceeded my expectations. We know how crazy Levi scenes looked in previous seasons and I think MAPPA did those scenes of Levi slicing titans justice. I won't talk about CGI. CGI is CGI whether we like it or hate it. It looked off but not horrible, but the Beast Titan model looked fine to me.

The highlights of this episode though were:
Zeke's "Not again!" LMAO
and Levi's "Short time no see" Had to rewatch those scenes a couple of times.
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Mar 14, 2021 3:26 PM

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Looks like the Rumbling started early xd
Mar 14, 2021 3:27 PM

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Crashmatt said:
I'm still convinced Mikassa will kill Edren either through necessity or as an act of mercy. I cant seen how else they will wrap this up in 2 episodes. Its a shame the author went in this direction, instead of giving him more personality he now less less and has turned into a bit of a dick (not sure if this is intentional or not at this point)


It's not actually ending in 2 episodes, this part is only adapting till Ch.116 while the manga finishes at Ch.139 leaving 23 chapters which is enough for an entire 12-14 episodes
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Fuji-O said:
deg said:
table scene got a lot of off model drawings
and the fight between Armin and Eren is not sakuga worthy
the Levi vs Beast Titan fight is animated good enough but not so much of a wow factor
no Imai lol people are expecting him on this episode

that breaking news though The Rumbling started i mean an Earthquake started lol but good thing the quake is just magnitude 4.6

Did you really expect a simple 10 seconds scene of Eren pounding Armin to be a sakuga worthy moment ? LOL And about Imai, whoever was expecting him to be part of this episode was setting themself up for dissapointment.


10 seconds is a lot you know, there are less than 10 seconds sakuga like here is a recent example https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/148203

err look around the subforum people are wishing and expecting Imai to appear lol
Mar 14, 2021 3:31 PM
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deg said:
Fuji-O said:

Did you really expect a simple 10 seconds scene of Eren pounding Armin to be a sakuga worthy moment ? LOL And about Imai, whoever was expecting him to be part of this episode was setting themself up for dissapointment.


10 seconds is a lot you know, there are less than 10 seconds sakuga

err look around the subforum people are wishing and expecting Imai to appear lol

But it was just few punches and one knee strike in the manga. What sakuga do you want ? It's not God of HIgh school or a battle shonen. And I know that people are expecting Imai to appear but that's preety stupid given that there is no proof of that whatsoever.
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Fuji-O said:
deg said:


10 seconds is a lot you know, there are less than 10 seconds sakuga

err look around the subforum people are wishing and expecting Imai to appear lol

But it was just few punches and one knee strike in the manga. What sakuga do you want ? It's not God of HIgh school or any shonen. And I know that people are expecting Imai to appear but that's preety stupid given that there is no proof of that whatsoever.


lol im not expecting God of High School sakuga just decent enough sakuga would be cool like i said its not sakuga worthy thats all
Mar 14, 2021 3:35 PM
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Yeah levi just murdered his comrades lemme play a rap music real quick, the only thing worse than the fight was ost choice.
ngl I was expecting the episode to look alot worse but they managed to pull something mediocre atleast. Still compared to previous battles this was utter garbage. Look at those off-model drawing even when they use a static image of levi. The schedules fault, i know but that doesn't mean it wasnt trash


And you are right. I fully understand that it's because of the schedule that we are getting not the best animation possible. For me until now the season is perfect and fights like episode 7 are ok, as long as the plot and the storyline is not butchered. Today they did something similar to what they did on episode 3, with reiners backstory. They cut importsnt dialogue between EMA, again they lwft out why ackermans are so strong and they left out some dialog from levi. The facial expressions during the table scene compared to the manga are non existent. Like Mikasa was hurt and you couldn't feel it. Because they had to put 1.5 chapters in this episode and there was no time for a breather, no build up. It felt better in the manga. And i assumed since we had 6 episodes heavy with dialog, they would had time to give us a decent animation of the forest scene. Boruto which is weekly, was able to put a good episode last week. AOT cannot give us a single episode, heck, a 4 min sequence of good quality. Ofc it's kondashas fault, but not being able to put 1 good episode when you had 6 dialog heavy ones, it's kinda meh. And the OST was TRASH, that rap OST has bo place in war frama series such as AOT. Table scene was good, but emotional, it was not. In the manga you can see all the facial expressions. SPECIALLY when eren tells mikasa how he "feels". They didn't even show his face when he said that.....it was solid, but no the groundbreaking episode that i hoped for. Not because of the fight, but because of the table scene. It felt emotionally blank. Compare that scene with Miaksa talking to eren on s2 finale. W/e lets just hope they give us a better a ime if they produce season 2.
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my new favorite episode of the season i think

been waiting so long for the table scene to be animated, and mappa did not disappoint there

my boy levi being badass i love him but the animation was eh

beast titan cg was whack but i won’t hate on it too much

i think the last time we heard the ost used for zeke vs levi was during the kenny vs levi fight?
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deg said:
Fuji-O said:

But it was just few punches and one knee strike in the manga. What sakuga do you want ? It's not God of HIgh school or any shonen. And I know that people are expecting Imai to appear but that's preety stupid given that there is no proof of that whatsoever.


lol im not expecting God of High School sakuga just decent enough sakuga would be cool like i said its not sakuga worthy thats all

I am just saying that AoT isn't the type of series that has sakuga moments in a fistfight scene like some battle shonens, especially given the fact that this scene is so short and simple choreographically. I would rather expect Levi vs Zeke to have sakuga moments than Eren vs Armin.
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!
This had to be one of the greatest reveals in storytelling history! My mind is blown from what Eren said at the table. And that news broadcast all of a sudden? I thought the war broke out for real, PRICELESS!!


Guys some help please: Levi immediately knew it was because of the spine fluid in the wine. Who told him that and when?
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lol im not expecting God of High School sakuga just decent enough sakuga would be cool like i said its not sakuga worthy thats all

I am just saying that AoT isn't the type of series that has sakuga moments in a fistfight scene like some battle shonens, especially given the fact that this scene is so short and simple choreographically. I would rather expect Levi vs Zeke to have sakuga moments than Eren vs Armin.


err why not both? and there was fist fights sorta on previous seasons if i remember right like that Levi OVA afaik

heck the Eren beatdown of Mikasas kidnappers was good enough sakuga
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!
Guys some help please: Levi immediately knew it was because of the spine fluid in the wine. Who told him that and when?


He knows already that Zeke spinal fluid can turn Eldians into pure titans when Zeke screams. Zeke screams and all of his subordinates glow turn into titans. And just before Zeke runs away he asks if there is any wine left. Not big of a stretch to deduce from this that the wine had Zeke's fluid in it.
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Fuji-O said:
deg said:


lol im not expecting God of High School sakuga just decent enough sakuga would be cool like i said its not sakuga worthy thats all

I am just saying that AoT isn't the type of series that has sakuga moments in a fistfight scene like some battle shonens, especially given the fact that this scene is so short and simple choreographically. I would rather expect Levi vs Zeke to have sakuga moments than Eren vs Armin.


Every moment in the anime has to be a high frame overanimated sakuga scene to be considered good. Don't you know that by now already? Fuck the poor bastards animating it and fuck the tone of the story. Fuck whether sakuga causes the scene to feel awkward to the story and distorts the tone. I need Muh Sakugaaa.
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Fuji-O said:

I am just saying that AoT isn't the type of series that has sakuga moments in a fistfight scene like some battle shonens, especially given the fact that this scene is so short and simple choreographically. I would rather expect Levi vs Zeke to have sakuga moments than Eren vs Armin.


Every moment in the anime has to be a high frame overanimated sakuga scene to be considered good. Don't you know that by now already? Fuck the poor bastards animating it and fuck the tone of the story. Fuck whether sakuga causes the scene to feel awkward to the story and distorts the tone. I need Muh Sakugaaa.


exactly sakuga is important on a visual story medium like anime look at previous seasons for example

if you want to focus on the story then better rate the manga higher like i did
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thanks mappa, very good episode

To all of you anime onlies who are scared of the ending: I still dont know why they chose to label this as the last season but it's not over in 2 episodes

edit: seems like these accounts still auto-post spoilers on your profile
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Oh for fuck's sake the table talk. They made it so good that I hate it. Damn...
Also, Zeke finally revealed his own plans, everyone except Lei drank that damn wine. You're gonna have to wait for a bit, Erwin.

2D titans! I guess the stress has lifted from the staff. Damn, this scene had great fucking animation. Levi did have to kill all of his "subordinate" titans. Damn, even Zeke is very pissed and annoyed. Two angry guys facing off here. Zeke got fucked again, this time looking like tree skin.

Damn then, that is the episode for now.
I hope people are fine. I'm not sure how bad a 4.6 magnitude earthquake is so I don't know how bad the situation is. But everyone knows that Japan is prone to a lot of eathquakes.
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deg said:
bipac said:


Every moment in the anime has to be a high frame overanimated sakuga scene to be considered good. Don't you know that by now already? Fuck the poor bastards animating it and fuck the tone of the story. Fuck whether sakuga causes the scene to feel awkward to the story and distorts the tone. I need Muh Sakugaaa.


exactly sakuga is important on a visual story medium like anime look at previous seasons for example

if you want to focus on the story then better rate the manga higher like i did


I read the manga too dude. Most important is the story and its tone. If you can tell the story well without the need for sakuga, I see no problem with it. In fact, most of the scenes where people are ree'ing for sakuga, especially dialogue scenes would actually become more awkward with unecessary sakuga. Action scenes like fights or battles, sure knock yourselves out with sakuga. Dialogue scenes, the tone and the story is more important rather than wanking off to some excess frames. Not everything needs to be overanimated sakuga to be good. I would actually rather prefer to see the character expressions in these kind of symbolic scenes rather than animate for animation's sake.
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Was a good 2/3 of episode.
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!
This had to be one of the greatest reveals in storytelling history! My mind is blown from what Eren said at the table. And that news broadcast all of a sudden? I thought the war broke out for real, PRICELESS!!


Guys some help please: Levi immediately knew it was because of the spine fluid in the wine. Who told him that and when?


He aldready knew what spine fluid was. But thought that when people got injeckted with it, then they freeze, something that was a lie Zeke told. So he added 2 and 2 together and deduced that it had to be in the wine.
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Having finally watched what's available of the episode, I'm very disappointed that they cut out these specific lines. Should've just gotten rid of the cold intro and adapted the whole thing.



Other than that they did a great job. It really is unfortunate how Zeke vs Levi didn't get the sasuga treatment it deserved, but the direction, storyboarding and ost usage were on point. Still prefer the manga version but the team did a good job. Hopefully part 2 will be free of these production issues holding back this season's full potential.
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