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It has been already explained in the first EP that the three heroes got into this world through a game identical while Naofumi through a LN. That's why they know that shields are good for nothing (they say there isn't a single high end player using shield class), know the world, etc. That's also the reason the legend says the heroes that would be summoned are already familiar with the world and know the regions, countries, enemies, ... |
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Fede_5000 said: I do not want to spoil it for you but is not that simple how this power works. The rest of the heroes just did not have to learn how this world works. And until this wave they did not have to as the monsters were easy to defeat. Generally one matures passing through shitty situations. It does make sense. There are many set backs but they will show in a future fight. As Glass said those monsters were weaklings. In this case just consumes his mana. No, the idea is not only to empower a single character and use the pretext that they have consequences like pain or something like that, Deku is always breaking his arms, but that does not mean anything if he can heal and then continue using his skill up to 300 % times of power, supposed effort does not mean anything, what bothers me the most is that the rest of heroes have nothing to emphasize, it was enough to portray them as idiots. |
nightcrawlercyp said: In the first episode he states he played a game that was similar to the rules of this world. CorbanEsp said: It has been already explained in the first EP that the three heroes got into this world through a game identical while Naofumi through a LN. That's why they know that shields are good for nothing (they say there isn't a single high end player using shield class), know the world, etc. That's also the reason the legend says the heroes that would be summoned are already familiar with the world and know the regions, countries, enemies, ... Ah, fair do. It's been a long while since I've watched the first episode. While I was aware that the rest of the heroes all knew and understood the type of 'game' they were thrown into, I thought/remembered it as a generalisation, like they just know how to play an mmorpg/rpg and understand the mechanics found in most of the games. Sounds like I'll need to give the first episode another watch! Cheers for the answers! |
Fappa said: DirectorK said: It may be convenient writing, but it does shows just how incompetent the other heroes because they still got their head in the clouds and are still treating everything like a game, Lance Hero being the worst of the three due to his overbearing ego. Shield Hero ended up learning the hard way from the start and is the only one who actually takes this seriously. Glass points this out the moment she arrives and in those first words she speaks she's shown more respect to the Shield Hero than anyone else has this entire time. I'm well aware of that but between having plenty of time to get the hang of things and a few clear reminders over their own incompetence up until this point there is no reason for them to still behave the way they do up to this point. I know we're dealing with previous gamers but had a hard time distinguishing this from a game but I can at least expect some realistic growth of character. Sword and(to a degree) Bow Hero are starting to learn but they still have a long way to go. Lance Hero is a hopeless case at this point and he's going to end up learning the hard way like Naofumi did only it will be much harsher, provided he doesn't die first of course. Also, it should be noted that the rest have had their parties from the start, have offensive weapons, and have no need to hold back since they have all the help they need. So it should come as no surprise that they are a bit full of themselves. Naofumi on the other hand has had to everything from scratch and all by himself. But now he's starting to gain the respect he deserves. The point is, Naofumi's problems are not going to go away so soon unless that Melty's mother suddenly steps in. It's going to take time for that happen and meantime we're going to continue to be increasingly frustrated with these characters who have mistreated him this entire time, but that's the point of their characters. I mean, look at Draco Malfoy and other bullies we've had in movies, video games, and anime over the years. The more frustrated we got with them the more satisfying it was to finally see them get what they deserve. |
| "You talk too much. Think too much." "I don't care how justified you think your reasons are. I won't tolerate liars or thieves." "If you're not going to be nice to me, don't expect me to be nice to you." "I'm a soldier, not a superhero. Don't ever think of me as one." "The world doesn't revolve around you. Get that through your thick skull." "People who live by their emotions go nowhere in their lives. They only find misery. "If you don't like the way your life is than do something about it instead of sitting there feeling sorry for yourself." "You want something go get it. Period." |
| I found this to be the weakest episode by far if I'm totally honest. Firstly, Naofumi seems to have no weakness. Him going into RAGE MODE felt entirely forced and way too early, he needed to be in real peril and channel it as a last resort kind of thing rather than just "eh this is going kinda slowly, better RAGE". The actual iron maiden appearing was hilariously awful, when he was talking about the spikes and stuff I just thought he was gonna spawn some spikes inside his little ball (which would also be ridiculous) but what the fuck was that?! And during all of this, everybody (including foot soldiers who managed to mount a FLYING AIRSHIP MADE OF TENTACLES AND HATRED) just stood there and did absolutely nothing?! Motoyasu's refusal to help Naofumi at this point.. I can't even be bothered to be frustrated at it. This is the big catastrophe they've been building to, if the characters don't take it seriously then why should I believe this is gonna be any threat y'know? Not to mention Glass and the ninja grandma too. The episode had a few good lines but outside of that, thumbs down from me. Completely deflated after that, at one point I was literally shaking my head. For a show that started off so strong I am so disappointed, but if you managed to enjoy it then fair play to you aha. |
| Good lord, this show started off as shit and hasn't got any better. In every goddamn episode those who dare to oppose Naofumi are shown to be flat one-dimensional meanies to the boohoo poor protagonist, so it's easier for us to hate them. Sometimes the king would act to his own detriment, banning Naofumi from leveling up and making obstacles for a guy that is supposed to protect his own kingdom. Sometimes, like today, the heroes in the face of the unquestionably evil undead monsters are arguing whether it's okay to help our mighty misunderstood lonewolf. This show goes out of its way to make every single character one-dimensional. |
| If you want to get cancer just watch Shield Hero. Oh, look, another one idiot joins the circus next week. OP Naofumi for the fuckin Win!!!! Anyway, the episode was ok. Nothing too exceptional. We have already see this kind of development. |
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| .[/quote] Demyx_IX said: OG_Gattsu said: Or, and hear me out on this, it's part of their character that they feel like it's all just a game. And don't take it seriously. It’s really annoying the heroes continue to be portrayed as incompetent idiots who can’t do anything right, so Edgelord Hero can save the day! It’s just poor writing and plot convenience at this point. The writer emphasised the stupidity of these dumbfucks by making them all use lightning attacks against the dimensional spirit. Then we have Spear Hero and the other two moaning about helping the Edgelord hero. “I’d rather die than save the world!” is what I got from them. I really don’t like the rage shield. Not only is it a powerup that focuses on his rage boner, it defeats the purpose of him being a tank. It’s fucking bullshit that the lower level tank is doing more DPS to the enemy, it would have been better if the heroes co-operated. Also DPS stands for damage per second. How does he do more dps when he uses all of one attack? The move is meant to be more of a finisher with high burst damage. Which isn't dps. The writer wrote them to be incompetent idiots. Edgelord hero already told the other heroes this isn’t the game last episode, but they continued to make dumb decisions. These heroes have supposed to have played similar games before and yet they don’t know the value of a tank and they’re all using lightning attacks when it’s not effective. Why the hell would you do that when the first one didn’t work? I’ll tell you why, it’s too make Edgelord Hero look good. The one attack he used with the rage shield was doing damage over time. The fact that the lower level tank is doing more damage than the three heroes combined is shitty written. I don’t know why you’re focusing on the word so literally and not the problem at hand, but I should except that much coming from a diehard fanboy. |
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| Great episode, spear hero is a scumbag. |
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| Best part of the episode was FILO giving Spear Hero a hard time. Lol |
| Jeez, we get it they think it's just a game. So what, they all had a headstart, started exploring the world and gained experience before Naofumi. Besides that if it's just a game to them why do they have such a huge rageboner against Naofumi(cuz the author decided to make them incompetent hypocritcal douchebags with small dicks). He didnt do anything between episode 3&11 that justifies him having more "skills", yeah he just absorbs stuff with his vagina shield looks at his interface and has a wide range of OP shit to choose from he's a fraud with 2 slaves. The other heroes also did way bigger quests, Naofumi just had to take care of a garden |
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| Glass is here, and she is taller than I expected lol. LN always gave me the impression she was smaller... Loved the Soul Eater design, it was sick, but no match for OP Glass at this point. Next episode will be very dire indeed. (Filo was using a really teasing voice there to pick on Spear's, never seen her at that kind of player, the dude was stuck between a rock and a hard place! Supersky said: Farabeuf said: That's literally my reason for watching this, but for some reason I cannot fathom, we keep on being denied this pleasure. If the creators behind this solve that situation with the cliché "Shounen power of friendship and understanding of each other" I will be majorly miffed. Malty needs to down, and go down hard. I will give a spoiler to answer your question and say it isn't with "the power of friendship" type of bs, but it's actually very satisfying to see. We'll probably get that around the end of the season @ episode 20-22, given how they're adapting the chapters. Dude, that will happen much sooner than than, UNLESS they want to end S1 after Cal Mira arc, if so, then they have to slow the pace, otherwise they will fall in vol6 territory and you cant really do it, without vol 7. Next episode should finish of vol3, so 13-17/18 for vol4, and 19-25 for vol5? That would be too much of a strech, but better than forcing vol 6 & 7 here... JiangHaoyi1979 said: Oh so Glass the wave boss finally shows up and acknowledges Naofumi as the hero, what took her so long???? Notice that she killed the Soul Eater like it was trash, like it wasnt on her side... it wasnt said she is the final boss, dont assume so, if you do, I will say, watch the next episode and see why you are mistaken. |
PlaycoolMar 20, 2019 3:51 PM
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| For a second I was worried this was the finale but I'm glad I checked the episode count. Filo was completely adorable in every scene (as usual), and her being there so someone could finally call Motoyasu a sore loser was amazing Also glad Naofumi got to show up those other heroes with that Iron Maiden move. It was so cool~ |
vecha1 said: Draconalis said: Correct me if I'm wrong... but I'm pretty sure that's how she got reintroduced in the web novel. I can't remember if it was the same in the light novel, but I don't remember it being different. I haven't read the web/light novels , only manga , and if I recall correctly , they introduce her far later down the line (I might be wrong though , so take this with a pinch of salt). Her reintroduction that you're thinking about (martial master) definitely happens again, but she appears in both the web novel and Light novel during the 3rd wave. "“Hiyaaa!” The battle cry that had been splitting through the scene was coming from the old lady I’ d given medicine too back when I was traveling through here. Yusagi, Aneko. The Rising of the Shield Hero Volume 03 (Kindle Locations 1306-1307). One Peace Books. Kindle Edition. " Oooooh... I like that little addition to the posted area... an auto citation. |
Demyx_IX said: Or, and hear me out on this, it's part of their character that they feel like it's all just a game. And don't take it seriously. Also DPS stands for damage per second. How does he do more dps when he uses all of one attack? The move is meant to be more of a finisher with high burst damage. Which isn't dps. Yeah, obviously they are written to be flawed characters. Nothing wrong with that. Problem is, why? What is their arc supposed to be? It's also a huge coincidence that all three of them have the same arrogant mentality, while the MC happens to be the only one with any sense. At this point their purpose has been to dog-pile along with the royal conspirators to make it look like Naofumi is systematically being persecuted, as well as to be so incompetent that Naofumi looks intelligent in comparison, even though he hasn't done anything particularly clever so far. |
| The shield hero is OP af compared with the others, his weapon actually does legendary and magical shit. Fighting against a bird looking monster on a boat, like in the Devil May Cry game. |
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Shotttooo00_0000 said: Ok this is not what was promised in the first few episodes, so many of the things i feared happened in this episode. The first few episodes didn't promise anything. They set the scene and the rest of the story is unfolding in that scene. Shotttooo00_0000 said: They are all higher leveled than our boi...... AND HOW ARE THEY STILL FUCKING IDIOTS DOING LITERALLY NOTHING. It's partially because they started with everything given to them, while the shield hero had to actively learn the old fashion way. The other heroes still don't even know how to read in this world. Shotttooo00_0000 said: How are they supposed to be the competition in the story for our protaganist-kun at all, Naofumi did everything today. Like I said this is not the story that was promised in the beginning. They aren't... that was never their role in this story. Their role is to fuck things up, be an obstacle, provide information when the time comes, then reach their redemption arcs. Shotttooo00_0000 said: How better would it have been if the other numbskulls were actually heroes and actively gave Naofumi a long gap to fill to be the hero everyone respects. I don't want Naofumi to be the best hero this world has ever seen, I want to see the shield hero be someone equal to all the other heroes, because if the shield hero becomes the best hero this world has ever seen the next time heroes are summoned everyone is going to hate the other three instead(They haven't told us why all the previous shield heroes were hated, so I presume it's personal preference) What you wanted of the story aside, they don't hate the shield hero for superficial reasons like, "The other three were the strongest" There is a long political and religious history to this world that establishes why the shield hero is hated. The anime will explain it (or start scratching the surface at least) in the next arc. Shotttooo00_0000 said: Also they literally spelled out the stupidity of the other three fuck boys by making them do the same exact attack to that dimensional spirit thingy(which did nothing), all three of them used lightning(lightning is lightning, no matter the method of attack lightning is lightning). Ok at least Motoyasu could have done something else because he attacked last of the three, but no our boi Naofumi is the only one with a functioning brain to try something else like wind(which pissed the spirit off). Our chicken loli is more useful than literally the rest of the cast. I guess you still don't understand that each of the other heroes played a game in their world that was almost identical to the world they are in now. That's why they are doing what they think will work... in their games, it did. Each of them "knew" the soul eater had a weakness to lightning, so they used lightning attacks. That's the whole thing with them, they still think this world is a game and they haven't reconciled with the fact that it's not. That's even hinted at when each of them were trying what worked in their game to get the soul eater to come out, and none of it worked. Shotttooo00_0000 said: Also what does that iron maiden thing Naofumi used to kill the dimensional thingy have to do anything with a shield, Is the shield hero handicapped or not, Why does he even need Raphtalia at this point if he did it himself.(I know they are family but today she was his cheerleader, especially Malty being there) It's a double-edged skill. He risks losing control and becoming a berserk maniac when he uses that shield. It's called the "cursed series" for a reason. He only resorts to using that shield when he's desperate. I'm not trying to change your mind about the show. Your taste is your taste, but you asked how, and I'm letting you know how. I know the answers to the unasked questions which why I'm enjoying the show, but at one time I didn't and learning the answers as I read was one of the reasons I really enjoyed this novels. |
| Wellp, nice episode after a lot of "meh" ones, so i'm satisfied |
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Playcool said: Glass is here, and she is taller than I expected lol. LN always gave me the impression she was smaller... Loved the Soul Eater design, it was sick, but no match for OP Glass at this point. Next episode will be very dire indeed. (Filo was using a really teasing voice there to pick on Spear's, never seen her at that kind of player, the dude was stuck between a rock and a hard place! Supersky said: I will give a spoiler to answer your question and say it isn't with "the power of friendship" type of bs, but it's actually very satisfying to see. We'll probably get that around the end of the season @ episode 20-22, given how they're adapting the chapters. Dude, that will happen much sooner than than, UNLESS they want to end S1 after Cal Mira arc, if so, then they have to slow the pace, otherwise they will fall in vol6 territory and you cant really do it, without vol 7. Next episode should finish of vol3, so 13-17/18 for vol4, and 19-25 for vol5? That would be too much of a strech, but better than forcing vol 6 & 7 here... JiangHaoyi1979 said: Oh so Glass the wave boss finally shows up and acknowledges Naofumi as the hero, what took her so long???? Notice that she killed the Soul Eater like it was trash, like it wasnt on her side... it wasnt said she is the final boss, dont assume so, if you do, I will say, watch the next episode and see why you are mistaken. sorry, I didn't know which episode to put it in. I'm usually bad with guessing stuff like that. I think they're gonna end the series adapting 6 volumes, and if we get a second season will up the budget and time making it as well |
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| That fighting granny deserves so much more credit than the other 3 heroes combined.. what even was all that? They just stood there... and honestly, are lightning skills the only skill attributes they can use? Raphtalia tries to get them to help Naofumi, but gets shouted at instead. Don't get me wrong, I really liked this episode, but the other 3 hero's are starting to work on my nerves. So useless... and I am not even gonna start on Malty. Really loved the action and fight. Was nice to see an actual Iron Maiden, surprising for Naofumi to have such a skill. Seems Naofumi is understanding more of his Rage Shield and is starting to control it little by little with help from Raphtalia. Glass appeared and I am really curious what she can do, she already is far more interesting than the other 3 hero's! |
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| That Iron maiden skill looks so good! This ep was pretty good as well. Frick the other heros except the sword hero maybe they useless tbh! I wonder who glass is next |
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CeddyyBearr said: That fighting granny deserves so much more credit than the other 3 heroes combined.. what even was all that? They just stood there... and honestly, are lightning skills the only skill attributes they can use? Raphtalia tries to get them to help Naofumi, but gets shouted at instead. Don't get me wrong, I really liked this episode, but the other 3 hero's are starting to work on my nerves. So useless... and I am not even gonna start on Malty. Really loved the action and fight. Was nice to see an actual Iron Maiden, surprising for Naofumi to have such a skill. Seems Naofumi is understanding more of his Rage Shield and is starting to control it little by little with help from Raphtalia. Glass appeared and I am really curious what she can do, she already is far more interesting than the other 3 hero's! The other 3 heroes are stubborn and are convinced that Melromarc's universe runs on the mechanics of games they played in their respective Japans. As a result, they think they know everything which ends up biting them in their asses. In contrast, Naofumi's lack of knowledge at the beginning turned out to be an advantage. He built up his skills from the ground up to get to where he is now. For instance, he learned spells from reading magic grimoires which also require him to know how to read the universe's text. The other heroes "learned" spells from crystal balls. |
| Another cool episode! Lots of action. The iron maiden was quite badass. Motoyasu’s weakness seems to be cute little girls confirmed now. Interesting. Also looking forward to see Glass fight shes quite hot for an enemy lol |
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| SO glad that Naofumi showed who is boss. Kong fu baba ftw... |
| was like hell no you do not give him guts armor lol thankfully it was just a arm it was alright highlight was the old baba hidden villager of power and the mvp i don't know how they're gonna redeem these incompetent heroes still using skills from lv20 letting their MT do all the fighting when their just standing around being derp's only reason are boi here looks so strong is because everyone else can't fight for shit. |
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Shotttooo00_0000 said: They are all higher leveled than our boi...... AND HOW ARE THEY STILL FUCKING IDIOTS DOING LITERALLY NOTHING. There was saying from the other that "when the lvl of the hero is very high but the equipment is very poor upgrade, cheep items and skilled is very low and useless then the hero will become barrenness (useless) rather the hero which the lvl is very low but in terms of equipment is totally upgraded and the skill is upgrade then their will be a big chance to fight the big boss and the hero will be survived". |
PersiaJuliet23Mar 20, 2019 6:05 PM
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Alternate_Wraph said: Don't know why people are making a fuss about the Kung-Fu Granny being introduced early. she was clearly introduced already in Episode 6. I had simply brushed off her being listed as level ??? as the animators being too lazy to come up with a level for such an unimportant NPC. They didn't even grant her a name! It's because some people read the manga and don't know that's when he got reintroduced in the source material. |
nightcrawlercyp said: NothinComplexPls said: The hatred in this episode was from the killed dragon. That is why it also affected FiroShieldbro's anger phase was damped down a lot. The hatred inside him felt almost non-existent. Its the only disappointing thing for me this episode. Other than that, it wasn't bad. Hopefully, the fight next episode is good. You didn't get what I meant, sway. |
| Finally i get me some animated glass |
| Damn, i love how unexpected are those waves are. This wave just shows again how incompetent the heroes are, the 1st wave they were just lucky because it was easy, now this one shows that they clearly don't have any skill neither knowledge, they are just like robots, fight until it seems that it's dead. Naofumi clearly showed everyone why and how he is the best xD Especially when the boss of the wave says that there is only one hero! holy s**! xD Spear and bow heroes are so dumb, like ok you don't like him but wtf? You are being attacked by a stronger enemy and if you don't defeat it together you die? Or you don't get it? They are so dumb, the sword hero is the only one that's decent. I love how the b** complains, yet can't do shit xD Naofumi got berserk again but gladly thanks to Raphtalia he managed to control it, and apparently, this is just the beginning for his skills/abilities. What a way to kill that monster! Next episode!!! |
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| Didn't think Naofumi could just activate his rage mode at will or whatever. Well he's getting a better handle on it anyway. Other heroes are still mostly total twats. Sword hero is still half decent. Naofumi is always talking mad shit to them whenever they're together. Nice that Naofumi was able to get the final blow with some really weird shield combo metal af attack. With the cg was a little better tho. The ending was really random. Btw wtf kinda name is Glass anyway. |
Reuterli said: "Last time Rage Mode did basically nothing and I still don't know what it's actually good for, but let me poker and use it again even though I'm already perfectly able to parry the enemy's attacks" Paired with the other heroes being all edgy and initially refusing to help for no apparent reason. Mindboggling garbage. You should try paying attention. He used the Rage Shield because it would have taken too long to kill the Soul Eater otherwise. Like yeah, they were able to dodge it's attacks and their attacks WERE doing damage, but they were really only slowly chipping away at it's health. An extended fight would put the village Naofumi was defending in more danger, that's why he took the risk and used the Rage Shield. The show ain't perfect, but if you're going to criticize it, at least have your criticism make sense. |
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OG_Gattsu said: The writer wrote them to be incompetent idiots. Edgelord hero already told the other heroes this isn’t the game last episode, but they continued to make dumb decisions. Are you really the type of person that would change your entire outlook on life if someone that you're not overly fond of, told you something that goes against everything you've thought? No? Didn't think so. OG_Gattsu said: Uh. The only time they used a lightning type attack was when they first start fighting it. So I have no idea what you're complaining about. Also, in the first episode all of them say that only losers play the shield class in the games that were in their worlds. Which means that there is either very few of them being played over all, or they're seen in the same negative light in those games, as they are seen in the world they get summoned to. These heroes have supposed to have played similar games before and yet they don’t know the value of a tank and they’re all using lightning attacks when it’s not effective. Why the hell would you do that when the first one didn’t work? I’ll tell you why, it’s too make Edgelord Hero look good. OG_Gattsu said: The one attack he used with the rage shield was doing damage over time. The fact that the lower level tank is doing more damage than the three heroes combined is shitty written. I don’t know why you’re focusing on the word so literally and not the problem at hand, but I should except that much coming from a diehard fanboy. You obviously haven't seen comments about the show I've made recently. There's definitely problems with the show, but at least with this episode, the complaints you've made are bad. SSL443 said: Demyx_IX said: Or, and hear me out on this, it's part of their character that they feel like it's all just a game. And don't take it seriously. Also DPS stands for damage per second. How does he do more dps when he uses all of one attack? The move is meant to be more of a finisher with high burst damage. Which isn't dps. Yeah, obviously they are written to be flawed characters. Nothing wrong with that. Problem is, why? What is their arc supposed to be? It's also a huge coincidence that all three of them have the same arrogant mentality, while the MC happens to be the only one with any sense. At this point their purpose has been to dog-pile along with the royal conspirators to make it look like Naofumi is systematically being persecuted, as well as to be so incompetent that Naofumi looks intelligent in comparison, even though he hasn't done anything particularly clever so far. I believe that it's due to a lack of maturity (two of them are under 18 and Motoyasu is based off an easy going, harem protagonist), and because of the experience from the games that they're from, they feel like that they get to be the actual protagonist of the game they used to play. |
Demyx_IXMar 20, 2019 9:11 PM
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justasadguy said: FINALLY! A nice episode :D, I have been waiting since episode 3 to see a good one again... But this makes me mad even more because it proves that this show has potential, but wasted a lot of time in fillers (eg. Motoyatsu race ) Let's hope it grows again :), because it has all the potential to do it Those weren't fillers. |
Farabeuf said: Tennouji said: And here I am, waiting for that bitch being on a situation where her life is on the line then beg for Naofumi's help so she can finally shut the fuck up. That's literally my reason for watching this, but for some reason I cannot fathom, we keep on being denied this pleasure. If the creators behind this solve that situation with the cliché "Shounen power of friendship and understanding of each other" I will be majorly miffed. Malty needs to down, and go down hard. Trust me, you'll be so happy with the outcome. But I reckon it'll happen at the last episode... so more waiting to come. |
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