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Whenever I watch a new episode of 11eyes, I always feel the need to vent. I don't know. Maybe it's because they keep killing everyone I like in the series, and it's killing the whole anime in turn. Seriously. First Takahisa. Now Yukiko. Eep. I was kind of teary-eyed when I saw the tears slip down Yukiko's face when she died. Like, yeah.
They only gave us a glimpse of how Takahisa died, too, ohmygosh. What could possibly be more dreadful than that? It went by so quickly I didn't even have time to react. Fail.
I was pretty freaked by the razor blade in the tea. I mean, I know that Yuka is insane (and that's an understatement), but a razorblade? Misuzu doesn't even do anything to her, but, well, get too close to her beloved Kakeru.
I was surprised to know that she owns the world; no wonder it's so crazy back there. Huh. I don't understand how anyone so weak and helpless manage a world as big as theirs. Though I liked it when she threw the fragment; I think it helped build up the anticipation for the next episode.
But I still don't like her, overall.
Liselotte reminds me of Emeraude from Magic Knights Rayearth. Y'know, her romance with Zagato and everything like that?
garfield15 said: I guess I"m the only one who isn't "that" freaked out by the razorblades in the tea considering I see that type of bullying in a lot of Japanese shows like "LIFE" and when they slipped a needle in the riceballs in "Higurashi"
If Mizuzu had put the razorblade in Yuka's tea most of the people would have yelled hooray XD
In my opinion it's a bit sad that they made the Yuka character so hateable and not a bit understandable.
But I liked her when she throw the fragment into the big crystal, the black knights are done for.
At least I hope there will be revenge for Saiko and Yukiko.
As a Misuzu fan, allow me to disagree. If Misuzu put the razor on yuka´s tea, she would severely disappoint me. I dont like charas who try to kill others by dirty ways. Its like stabb someone on the back without giving the chance for the other to defend. So, even if Superbia is a bitch and killed the charas that everyone loved,(Damn Superbia) at least she fights them face to face.
What Yuka did was wrong, and still Misuzu had the appropriate behaviour and didnt tell Kakeru. she just left the room. Misuzu know the meaning of the word Respect.
And, as for me, i loved Yuka in the beggining of the show. i thought she was a really sweet girl, but i cant keep loving a chara that became totally insane and doesnt care about other people than Kakeru. The thing is, if she was like Lisolette, who had a motive to do wrong things, because someone killed her lover, but Yuka? Yuka had Kakeru, had friends who always protected her, and she becomes like that?
Hilaire said: Whenever I watch a new episode of 11eyes, I always feel the need to vent. I don't know.
Me too! i think i never posted so many times on a thread, looool.
Hilaire said: Liselotte reminds me of Emeraude from Magic Knights Rayearth. Y'know, her romance with Zagato and everything like that?
Zagato was HAWT and sweetXD Verard is ugly and not sweet. But yes, i do agree, Lisollette makes me remind emeraude and also hinoto from X anime.
(Hinoto with floating white hair like her, and wow, she also had split personality, a bad one and a good one, what a rip off!XD )
What Yuka did was wrong, and still Misuzu had the appropriate behaviour and didnt tell Kakeru. she just left the room. Misuzu know the meaning of the word Respect.
And, as for me, i loved Yuka in the beggining of the show. i thought she was a really sweet girl, but i cant keep loving a chara that became totally insane and doesnt care about other people than Kakeru. The thing is, if she was like Lisolette, who had a motive to do wrong things, because someone killed her lover, but Yuka? Yuka had Kakeru, had friends who always protected her, and she becomes like that?
Yes you're right
In the beginning I also liked her.
But then It was not really understandable why she acts like this, it would be ok if she dislikes Misuzu, but she even don't care about the other members.
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Zilpzalp said: Also, I was very sad when I saw them kissing :( hoped that Yuka would somehow die and he'd fall in love with Misuzu. She's mature, nice, and [I'll quote somebody here] knows what the word respect means. And how she acted when she saw the razor blade showed the difference in level of the two girls in a very good way.
I think he already loves Misuzu, but Yuka keeps pulling him away from her whenever they're together. He even admits himself that, though he still cares about Yuka, he doesn't seem to be in love with her anymore. And given Yuka's behavior, I can't say I blame him.
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I think if Kakeru had a chance, it wouldnt had been hard for him to fall in love with Misuzu. I know he only sees her as his senpai and a kind of best friend, but still, if Misuzu confesses to him (and stays alive), im sure he will fall in love with her very quickly. He treasures Misuzu very much and from that feeling a deep love can born. I think he feels something more than friendship for her too, a very special bond, but since he likes Yuka (yes, he likes her T.T) he doesnt realise that.
well, its a matter of time. If Yuka tries to hurt Misuzu in front of him, i bet his love for Yuka dies in that moment XD
I think people are analyzing this too deeply, I mean.. 11eyes? Come on, not worth analyzing this much.
tl;dr If Yuka dies, everyone can be happy and we can have a KakeruXMisuzu ending.
(Read: If Yuka dies, everything is good again)
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garfield15 said: I guess I"m the only one who isn't "that" freaked out by the razorblades in the tea considering I see that type of bullying in a lot of Japanese shows like "LIFE" and when they slipped a needle in the riceballs in "Higurashi"
If Misuzu had put the razorblade in Yuka's tea most of the people would have yelled hooray XD
Except seeing the type of person Misuzu is, it won't happen unless they completely switched personalities. Even if Misuzu were to turn into some yandere, I'd be all /facepalm over her like Yuka except less so because Misuzu still had her role as the fighter and the person who taught Kakeru to fight, just a bit more insane. In Yuka's case, the only thing she had going for her now is because she's a yandere. Without that, she would just be another cliched generic deus ex machina, which I would still end up disliking.
- I think Kakeru is already in love with Misuzu, but doesn't really realize it, because for so long, Yuka was the only person he had in his life to support him. (His sister doesn't count considering that she died quite early on.)
- Yuka is a....Reality Warper? Anyone see the parallels to Haruhi? Lol. She's been changing the world without realizing it. She created an illusion that looked like Kakeru's sister and didn't even know about it. I wonder what happens when she'll try to erase Misuzu out of existence next? (It is her world after all. :/)
- Well, great, two more likeable characters are wiped. I cringed during Yukiko's death. It was truly horrible. :<
Hilaire said: Whenever I watch a new episode of 11eyes, I always feel the need to vent. I don't know. Maybe it's because they keep killing everyone I like in the series, and it's killing the whole anime in turn. Seriously. First Takahisa. Now Yukiko. Eep. I was kind of teary-eyed when I saw the tears slip down Yukiko's face when she died. Like, yeah.
Well this is a first... I usually only post on the last episode thread but... This....
This episode was just... To fucking good. I find myself saying things like... "Why Yuka... Just why?"
I mean seriously... She just handed the plate to the most deadly of all characters. If she wasn't always
trying to get attention from Kakeru things would have not ended that way. If she died after awaking to her power and saving the other fragments then it would have been good.. But then again... I wouldn't have enjoyed watching her fuck up and releasing the chick trapped in the crystal... Aw well... I want Kakeru to end up with the other chick... But I get the feeling he'll end up with Yuka >.> Damn...
I prefer to see Kakeru die than stay with Yuka.(Gomenassai Yuka fans)
She´s not gonna return to her old self, so, there´s no chance i will support her.
If Misuzu dies, Yuka probably will die too. Kakeru has great chances to stay alone in the end.
I prefer to see him in a big incest relationship with his sister than with Yuka. *evil laugh*
Ohmyfuck, I really..
I was yelling at my screen at the end of this episode.
Like, Yukiko, I really liked Her.
And then Yuka, "OH HEY YOU WILL DESTROY THE WORLD? I'LL SAVE YOU"
I mean, seriously, I hate Yuka...
Also, this episode made my ranking of it go up by 1.
And I'm so excited for next week.
Yuka pretended to be kind and made tea for Kakeru, Misuzu-sempai, and Shiori-san when they were holding a discussion in regards to the problems at hand. Luckily, Misuzu-sempai had took a look at her cup of tea prior to drinking and there is a piece of razor in it!? When Kakeru asked if anything was wrong, she claimed that she was tired and left the room along with the cup of tea thanking Yuka along the way. This is totally unacceptable!
Although, it is true that Kakeru had only started sword techniques after wanting to protect Yuka and also became much stronger drinking Misuzu-sempai for Yuka's sake but.. Unless Kakeru is stupid, Yuka should be abandoned. Only problem is that Yuka has become too strong as that she had also sipped Misuzu-sempai's blood. With her releasing the Witch of Babylon, it is not possible to have Misao and Avaritia to kill Yuka and take her fragment to prevent her from causing trouble. The only person stronger than both the Witch of Babylon and Yuka would be Velad who has the ability to possess Kakeru but problem with that is the fact that Velad seeks to bring destruction to the world and that the Witch of Babylon is actually his lover, queen, and also fulfilling his wish after he got murdered by a trusted retainer. Generally, bringing Velad back is much worse than having Yuka around..
The only way to bring HellFall which is apocalypse is to gather seven fragments which was originally a single Voidstone belonging to Velad. Generally, Velad was the original Eye of Aeon wielder and also the Demon King. The Holy Office of Index would like to prevent the resurrection of the Demon King Velad and also the coming of the Great Destruction HellFall. Thus, both Kusakabe Misao and Avaritia are actually the good guys. In fact, they are members of the Holy Office who got cursed for sealing the Witch of Babylon. Huh!?
In other words, Kakeru, Misuzu-sempai and the others are the actually bad guys who will bring HellFall and the resurrection of Demon King Velad. On the contrary, this is the belief of the Holy Office of Index. Velad has a different vision..
Honestly, the story just gets more interesting and interesting. At the same time, I also grow to hate Yuka more and more. At the beginning of the series, I thought she was cute but.. Not anymore!
In this episode, Yuka actually took off her clothes to sleep with Kakeru when Takahisa-san got murdered, Yukiko going to get killed, Misuzu-sempai seems to be all upset while Shiori is dictating that the team are actually the ones to bring forth the apocalypse as opposed to saving it. Honestly, I don't see why Kakeru would still want to protect Yuka considering what had happened and is going to happen. Supposedly, Takahisa is like Hanamura Yousuke considering the fact that he is the only other male member of the team and is also voiced by the same seiyuu yet he gets killed off early.
Misuzu-sempai seems to be shocked at the fact that her skill level is nowhere near the legendary Kusakabe Misao who was vanished from their clan for mixing Western magic with onmyoudou jutsu. Kukuri turns out to be non-existent, what!? Kukuri is actually an illusion created by Yuka to cheer up Kakeru and that the real Kukuri had already died. At the end of the episode, Yukiko gets killed off by Kusakabe Misao. Generally, the team is gone..
Actually, I think it is better for Kakeru to die than to stay with Yuka. The wielder of the Eye of Aeon should die unless it is going to be a bad ending.
On a second thought, it is not that bad to be Yuka under the circumstance that Kakeru will die in a very unpleasant way since he possesses the Eye of Aeon. The power comes from a fragment of the Voidstone and the only way to extract it.. The members of the Holy Office will be opening up Kakeru's skull while his heart still beats and thus, comparing this way of dying and actually ending up safe with Yuka. There is little choice.. *pale face*
I disliked Yuka since the beginning. She is like "look at me im adorable, love me, hug me" type of character. She is just a total useless piece of crap. Now, she fits the word "bitch" perfectly. She takes bitchiness to a level beyond human understanding probably more than Nina Einstein and Kaede in Shuffle!. When I was watching the razor scene, I was imaging that Kakeru would see the razor and decided to slash Yuka with a blade just to prevent her from siding with the witch in the future which did happen according to my prediction. I hope the ending turns out somewhat like Shuffle! with the ideal couple and kill off the yandere.
Hilaire said: Liselotte reminds me of Emeraude from Magic Knights Rayearth. Y'know, her romance with Zagato and everything like that?
Zagato was HAWT and sweetXD Verard is ugly and not sweet. But yes, i do agree, Lisollette makes me remind emeraude and also hinoto from X anime.
(Hinoto with floating white hair like her, and wow, she also had split personality, a bad one and a good one, what a rip off!XD )
I haven't seen much of Velad yet, so I'm putting off my judgment of him for the next few episodes. I find Liselotte's love story rather tragic, though, and very interesting. It's good to find the plot of 11eyes thicken; I swear if it weren't for Takahisa and Yukiko's bits in the first parts I wouldn't have put up with Yuka always going "Kakeru-kun!" every ten seconds.
I've a feeling that without Takahisa and Yukiko to keep me on the bad guy's side, I'll be rooting for the Dark Knights from this point on. Not sure, but it's a possibility. Liselotte is awesome too, so yay.
When Kakeru closed Yuka in the cupboard I loled so hard that I spitted on my monitor. Best scene ever (well, the scene where Yuka will die will be even better. Because she WILL die, right?!).
Too bad he didn't lock it and threw the key away.
Yuka ruins this series for me.
I liked her at first, then found her annoying, but the more Kakeru-obsessed she gets the more fake she seems,, like all her sweetness is exaggerated and it seems like she is putting it on to get Kakeru to like her. I find myself disliking her and not understanding why some people like her. Maybe she was portrayed better in the game.. but anime Yuka is a crazy girl who should be killed off.
She needs to get her head sorted.
I have to say I am more of a Misuzu x Kakeru fan, purely because Yuka's annoying behaviour is so bad. I shipped Yuka x Kakeru for the first few eps til Yuka went stupid.
All the awesome characters are dying and leaving the crappy ones :(
Bet Misuzu will go soon (whether by Yuka or Superbia)
Can't help but think that everything would be better off without Kakeru right now. I mean, without him Yuka would be a tolerable character, no-one would have had to die and there would be no split between fans over whether it should be Kakeru x Yuka or Kakeru x Misuzu.
Just wanna say I really felt like turning the anime off when Yuka turned up all "ooh look at me Kakeru-kun! I'm serving tea and being ever so nice. Marry me and let me have your babies!" then when she said "No, it's Kusakabe-sempai" I was just... *facepalm*
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Man, this series was kinda slow and then, in the space of three episodes, kills off two characters, disappears another, and throws more plot twisters than a hurricane. Insane!
draker said: When Kakeru closed Yuka in the cupboard I loled so hard that I spitted on my monitor. Best scene ever (well, the scene where Yuka will die will be even better. Because she WILL die, right?!).
Too bad he didn't lock it and threw the key away.
I totally agree. I hated Yuka right at the first episode... and now she gained an Kaede (from Shuffle) psycho factor... (although I liked Kaede somehow for that point)
But I think... it got pretty interesting this episode.. somehow... so the first scene of the anime where Kukuri dies.... was in Kukuris world? Is Kakeru killed in the very first scene (1 ep) as well or is it just my imagination?
Traum said: so the first scene of the anime where Kukuri dies.... was in Kukuris world? Is Kakeru killed in the very first scene (1 ep) as well or is it just my imagination?
Now that you mention it, that kinda makes sense actually. I wouldn't be surprised if Kakeru's actually dead, and Yuka made a copy of him without really knowing it ಠ_ಠ
And Yuka's clingy-ness could in that case come from her not wanting to lose him again... Oh well I still think Yuka should die, that'd be for the greater good.
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draker said: When Kakeru closed Yuka in the cupboard I loled so hard that I spitted on my monitor. Best scene ever (well, the scene where Yuka will die will be even better. Because she WILL die, right?!).
Too bad he didn't lock it and threw the key away.
I totally agree. I hated Yuka right at the first episode... and now she gained an Kaede (from Shuffle) psycho factor... (although I liked Kaede somehow for that point)
But I think... it got pretty interesting this episode.. somehow... so the first scene of the anime where Kukuri dies.... was in Kukuris world? Is Kakeru killed in the very first scene (1 ep) as well or is it just my imagination?
I think i must rewatch this scene
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i just rewatched it and loled so much XD im trying to lol a lot because tomorrow the episode 11 comes out and im sooooooo curious and with this bad feeling that misuzu is gonna die. But anyway, Yuka will die too if she dies, so, at least Misuzu doesnt die alone.
*cant wait for the raw to come out*
So the bitch finally snapped. The razor blade in the tea was neither subtle nor effective, in the end.
Stupid 12-episodes series'... I can't drop them... >_>
Anyway, I think 11eyes is extremely bad. I know many people disagree with that, but is there anyone who agrees? :P
Desirio said: So the bitch finally snapped. The razor blade in the tea was neither subtle nor effective, in the end.
Stupid 12-episodes series'... I can't drop them... >_>
Anyway, I think 11eyes is extremely bad. I know many people disagree with that, but is there anyone who agrees? :P
I agree that it's not the best series by a longshot, but damn if it's not entertaining!
I can also say that the latter episodes are much better than the first ones.
That was one huge WTF episode, Yukiko goes nuts and gets killed T_T.
Yuka is annoying as hell although she did look rather nice in that lingerie ;)
Mizuso and Kakeru should just hook up and get the hell out of there since everything is going crazy anyways.
And Yuka, unleashes the witch...GREAT JOB !>:(
I knew I wouldn't like Yuka before I even watched the anime. She is so messed up. If only they killed her off instead of Yukiko and Takahisa. That would have been way better.
I hope that Kakeru sees through her fakeness soon. It would be better if he was the one to kill her off.
I'm just passing by, happened come here, see this.. now what do?
Hmm I seem to have dropped something, and also, I hope Yuka explodes soon enough : /
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A great episode. Though now we have more good characters dying off (this time Yukiko dies and Kukuri was revealed to be dead from the beginning so she disappears). Now we know the reason as to the black knights intentions and what the fragments are as well as Liselotte's goal. Found Kakeru stuffing Yuka in the cabinet to be funny lol, and liked when he went to comfort Misuzu. Though with Yuka now freeing Liselotte (what the . . . why would she do that . . . ) from the crystal tower, what is to happen next. How will the remaining characters react (the black nights and remaining fragments), and curious as to how the series end with it coming by so close.
I was meant to add something. Immortal Witch of Babylon was done somewhere before as a myth....now where was it? The whole world/fragments/each has its own world.....Higurashi again on that? Void Stone = to something of a philosopher stone. If Kukuri was killed in her world then why was Yuka there? Could it be that Yuka/Kakeru to help him Yuka made in her world that they went to kindergarden? Memory tampering?
francismeunier said: Void Stone = to something of a philosopher stone. If Kukuri was killed in her world then why was Yuka there? Could it be that Yuka/Kakeru to help him Yuka made in her world that they went to kindergarden? Memory tampering?
And exactly how do you relate the voidstoen to a philosopher's stone? (I can think of a bunch of different kinds of philosopher's stones, but none fits the voidstone)
Also, tl;dr kill Yuka and everyone'll be happy.
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So many characters die in a short while o.O First, it's Takahisa, then it's Kukuri and now it's Yukiko.. I got a bad feeling either Misuzu or Yuka will die in the next episodes. I hope it's the latter >.>
I lol'ed a bit at Kakeru stuffing Yuka in the cabinet. I hoped he would have burned the cabinet along with Yuka~ bitch~ >.> I also lol'ed at Yuka putting a razor in Misuzu's tea. I mean, just who would be so stupid to put razor when it can be easily spotted. At least put poion or something >.> Even a 10 year old kid knows better then that~
Lastly, yay for Misuzu X Kakeru! The hugging scene is the best~ When I saw that scene, I was like 'take that Yuka!'. Then, Kakeru and Yuka just had to kiss >.> But meh, the hugging scene between Misuzu and Kakeru is much more romantic~ Speaking of which, isn't supposed to be time Kakeru notices Yuka is getting crazier? I mean, she gets more and more clingy and obsessed, put a razor in a teacup, walks around the garden in her undergarments and now she even threw the crystal to Lizelotte.
Saitoh said: I got a bad feeling either Misuzu or Yuka or both will die in the next episodes. I hope it's the latter >.>
Me too. I mean if Misuzu dies it will be damn unfair, ill be damn pissed like i never was in the last months watching an anime. Its not that the anime is good, but i really like most of their charas so...T.T
Saitoh said: I lol'ed a bit at Kakeru stuffing Yuka in the cabinet. I hoped he would have burned the cabinet along with Yuka~ bitch~ >.>
rotfl! the best scene ever after the Kakeru x Misuzu hug^.^
Saitoh said: Lastly, yay for Misuzu X Kakeru! The hugging scene is the best~ When I saw that scene, I was like 'take that Yuka!'. Then, Kakeru and Yuka just had to kiss >.> But meh, the hugging scene between Misuzu and Kakeru is much more romantic~ Speaking of which, isn't supposed to be time Kakeru notices Yuka is getting crazier? I mean, she gets more and more clingy and obsessed, put a razor in a teacup, walks around the garden in her undergarments and now she even threw the crystal to Lizelotte.
Anyway, yay once more for Misuzu X Kakeru~~
You read my mind! Kakeru must be blind to not notice that he´s sweet yuka is not the same person anymore. Why did he kiss someone like her?! i would prefer to see him admiting "im gay" than kiss Yuka.
Misuzu x Kakeru all the way! I hope she can stay alive T.T and if she doesnt, i hope Yuka dies too. And i want to see Misuzu kissing Kakeru and confessing her feelings! She has the right to do it!He has to know!
Man im with this feeling that in the end the only survivors will he and Shiori.
T.T
Orulyon said: Man im with this feeling that in the end the only survivors will he and Shiori.
T.T
I certainly wouldn't mind, as long as Yuka dies, all is fine : D
Although it's too bad if Misuzu dies : /
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Saitoh said: So many characters die in a short while o.O First, it's Takahisa, then it's Kukuri and now it's Yukiko.. I got a bad feeling either Misuzu or Yuka or both will die in the next episodes. I hope it's the latter >.>
Technically, Kukuri didn't die. She was already dead, as she killed herself in episode 1. Apparently, the one we saw till now was a mere illusion made by Yuka (whose power seems to be more than just nullification, if she can create illusions like that as well).
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the new raw episode just came out now...im dying to watch it, so ill not wait for subs. Man, at the beggining of the anime i was bored to death and now since the last three eps im so addicted. I guess that i really dont like Yuka but i must thank her because she made me want to see Kakeru with Misuzu together, which, in the beggining of the series i would never imagine Kakeru and Misuzu more than friends, and now im dying to see them as lovers:D
ok, im gonna watch it...
i neede desperately to know who´s gonna die next...
Yuka or Misuzu?! or the two? or none?
kyaaaaaaaaaaa
Orulyon said: Yuka or Misuzu?! or the two? or none?
kyaaaaaaaaaaa
Hope Yuka explodes : D Don't spoil anything when you're done though : p (At least not in this thread : p)
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Oh noes, Takahisa and Yukiko died and Kukuri was a fake. I could care less since I don't feel anything or care for the characters. I just want Yuka to die.. I mean seriously, what the fuck is she doing? Sunbathing, really?! Kakeru-kun, Kakeru-kun~Look at me!~ <3
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OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG, FUCKKKKKKKK
Im sorry guys. Well im not gonna spoil the ep.11, but let me tell u something, that was the most unexpected episode ive ever seen in an anime in the last years. Prepare your hearts, because i spent all the fucking episode screaming.
I guess tomorrow it will be subbed:D cant wait to discuss it with u in the next thread!