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| That was sad. They took everything from her. I'm interested if it is someone that is spy in CB and is controlling the other three Gundams. Wonder how this will change things. |
| 0.0 So sadistic..sad is just too little to say... 0.0 |
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| "I will force that reasoning aside with my unreasonableness!" Wow, Graham is really starting to grow on me. So badass. And I always hated the Trinities. Nena deserves to be tortured and kill in the worst possible ways. Good luck to Setsuna for attempting to take out all three by himself. |
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| Lied the episode but now I can confirm that Nena is an ass.... I felt so sorry for Louise. I'm still teary eyed (just watched the episode a few moments ago). So sad. Nena needs to die. |
| I can't believed he worked his ass off to get Louise those rings... She was acting like such a spoiled bitch at the time... I do feel sorry for her now though. Setsuna coming in at the end with that speech was a fucking awesome moment!!!! |
| Graham: a real (fictional) American hero. Now I know what people are talking about when they say "poor, poor Louise". I want to see some Trinity's asses kicked by the end of the season. |
| oh no. poor louise. :( her family has been wiped out and her hand.. nena, you shit! cool graham. xD he surely kicks ass in this episode. :) |
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| Hopefully, Setsuna kicks some ass next episode. Trinity needs to be taken down. More importantly, the battle needs to get caught on camera so people realize that Trinity is different from the rest of the Gundams. Otherwise, Celestial Being's PR campaign is totally and irrevocably screwed, even if the Thrones get taken down. |
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| Damn that was a sad episode exia is going to kick some ass |
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| Well my high hopes for the Trinity group were dashed, I probably wouldn't have cared that much if they did things like destroy that military compound because I was rationalizing it with the idea that they were actually bringing the world together (that seemed to be the idea earlier) by getting a common enemy to fight against. After just meaninglessly attacking that wedding, they do have to be taken out. Great episode but I thought they turned then into the evil pilots really fast, especially after hearing nothing about then until they saved the other 4 gundams. I was also very disappointed that Saji didn't really seem to try to comfort Louise and seemed mortified by her hand and then left her crying, obviously traumatic but his response to someone he loved was sad to me. Anyway great episode and I've come to like Satsuna a little more, maybe he will be a less incompetent pilot. |
| Now paint your machine red and get yourself a mask Graham. Take those fuckers down hard. Saji and Louise are still the best part of this show. The groundwork. The civillians look towards the events taking place in the series. Something thats always been lacking in other Gundam series. Setsuna just leveled up his character development |
| Undeniably, this is one great episode. 5/5 To have completely turned (real) public opinion against the Trinity faction in the span of one episode without feeling too rushed, that's masterful storytelling. Another important element is the presence of a point of view from the innocent civilian side, which allows the viewer to see and feel the horrors of the conflict much closer than casualty counts ever will. Louise's dreams were shattered in an instant. This sudden turn of events made me find the ending song sounding much more appropriate for the change in mood. Even if they're just side characters, I still wonder what's going to happen to Louise and Saji now? What about Setsuna? On to the next episode, past the cliffhanger! |
| Oh yeah. This was great. This development about Saji and Louise was a bit too fast, but still it was great! Finally, it feels like there is someone actually alive in these series, not only a bunch of soulless dolls killed by invincible mechas. Zensational said: I was also very disappointed that Saji didn't really seem to try to comfort Louise and seemed mortified by her hand and then left her crying, obviously traumatic but his response to someone he loved was sad to me. Agree. Not that I'm disappointed, I didn't liked Saji to begin with, but now I just hate him. |
EndymionNov 21, 2011 6:30 AM
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| FFFUUUUUUUUU I cant fap to Neena anymore after what she did to Louise ....... |
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kurotsuki said: I actually respected Graham from episode 1 onwards, he manages to actually put up a fight against weapons much more powerful than his flag and this episode just earned a lot of points from me because managing to just slice off an arm of one of the throne gundams is an accomplishment worthy of the Union Ace Pilot. He was never unlikable, he followed his orders and he knew when to retreat and he never once went too far in the midst of battle. He's honorable and treats each foe with the appropriate respect they deserve, he has a lot going for him and he it's rather endearing to watch him push himself to defeat the Gundams and he has a REAL reason to oppose them now even if it is more personal than rational.THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- well , The dog was successfully raped , the Thrinity probably lost 75% of their supporters , My love for neena was hacked , but I may learn to forgive her , dunno . Not that i really cared for Louise actually , but what Neena did is just plain....bad . I never really liked Graham either , but after today's episode , how can anyone not like him ? Go Graham , take down those f*ckers ! I am also rooting for Setsuna who goes attack them in solo , let's hope he doesn't get his ass to much kicked , but the scene in which he attacks Thrinity is pretty badass , i must have seen this seen 10 times already , + 20 times the Graham scene . I hope Saji doesn't become a pilot or something to take revenge....unless he dies on the front and Louise become the main antagonist for season 2 ? oh yeah now that would be badass . |
DestinyFate said: I think Setsuna and Graham are on two different levels though, because the leader of the UN did say that Setsuna does rely on his mech quite a bit.martino said: DestinyFate said: kinda impossible to kick their ass Don't think so actually. As you could have seen their skills are not very good when it comes to piloting their Gundams (just check how he struggled when fighting with Graham); they rely too much on their technological advantages, as opposed to the older models, and I think this might come at a cost to them. Yes I know its possible to kiss their ass but surely Setsuna in next episode won't be able to do so. |
| omgwtfbbq just happened |
| Actually glad that nepal is facing disaster |
| OMG that hospital bed scene was so tragic, poor Louise! D: |
| And everyone thought Saji and Louise were pointless side characters. |
Friendlysoul said: Everything is being sad... My poor Lousie, i loved the female pilot at episode 17, now at episode 18, i want her dead!!! I liked Lousie, but now that she is some pathetic cripple, I don't want to see her anymore. And Nena, I loved her at episode 17, now at episode 18, I love her even more. Well, I'm just joking about Lousie of course, but I'm serious about Nena. Zero-sama said: The reason is said i hated it is because of the things that happened...I really liked when that trinity girl appeared she was so cool and all that...but that fucking bitch just killed for fun. GOT TO HELL U TRINITY MUDER FUCKR IHATE THEM FROM ALL MY HEART they don care about others, they think they are sooo cool and all..TO HELL WITH THEM! But she's still cool, yeah mdauben said: Some people sound like they are still trying to cut the Trinity's some slack, but Nina at least has become an unredemable character in my eyes. At this point, even if she sacraficed herself in the most horrible and painful way to save a lost child, I would still think "you deserved it, bitch". (¬_¬") And I think that Nena is lovely the way she is. I do not see a reason to love or hate character just because he/she is protagonist or antagonist, virtue- or evildoer, it's much more important to me how much consistent, well-balanced and lively character is, how good its personality is developed and if there is logic in its actions, even if it is twisted or evil logic Friendlysoul said: wakka9ca said: I can see everyone share the same empathy for Louise.... Let's have a moment of silence and grief for the victims of the Trinity, Louise's family, friends and the 800 civilians killed in the factory..... Not many people care about the 800 civilians.... Ask most people and they rather have them dead instead of ONE of the main characters :P Not only this, but - that character is the one most of the people hated or at least disliked just a while ago... ImpurestClub said: I know Graham did it in his flag but hes obviously a badass 1. Why is that? 2. So what? DeathfireD said: Graham proved that the new Gundams are not all that strong on the outside as they appear (thank god). As already being said, note that he did it with Gundam's saber, so maybe using native Flag's weapons would be to no purpose. It's not Gundams being not all that strong, but him performing really splendid battle DeathfireD said: I don't understand why people hate Saji and Louise so much in the past eps. They where obviously put in the series to show a few things to the audience. I was thinking the same lines. sHsIkuA said: Nezumi said: overfunk said: - Saji: Going to be Suzaku Mk. II somehow. YES. I know it's been said, but I'm in the feel-sorry-for-Louise-even-though-I-hate-her boat too. =P Though, is it just me, or did the 'Neena going psycho bitch' thing seem kind of sudden? I hadn't gotten that impression from the previous episodes; it seemed far more likely that Michael would go and randomly shoot things...not that any of them were particularly righteous, but still... IMHO, all three of the Trinity are the same really. They won't care who died by their hands, just that they conveyed it in a different way. Nena take it as a game , Michael is a bit wild and Johann just don't care much And now we see that Setsuna wasn't wrong about disliking her so much ImpurestClub said: Even in the hospital when Saji is crying in the hallway, we can hear the nurses talking about how the new attacks are undoing everything the original four Gundams had done in their interventions. Not sure about the fidelity of the translation though SageShinigami said: Also, I'm betting Saji's sister dies. That soldier died just a few minutes after he told her that info, so once she gets a little closer into it all, I'm betting they off her too. I give her until the end of S1. Well I don't think that she dies, but her life probably will be threatened. I could be wrong, though chubiba said: i thought this too... that saji's sister will die.. (probably when she have acquired/discovered a big amount of data/infos) then SAJI will continue her work.. Saji doesn't have that kind of abilities or personality nor connections so it's kinda hard for me to imagine... djinn_690 said: i never really like Louise but I feel sorry for her. she looked like she lost her legs as well. i hope im wrong though. - You having only one arm is okay with me. Marry me! Let's go home. - But... I can't walk lol tsukikage said: Not to bring down the trauma of losing an arm, but why can't she wear the ring on her other hand? Stormy_77 said: Agree with above poster, WHY can't Louise wear the ring on her RIGHT hand????!????? You know, the one that wasn't chopped off?? 'Cause it's customary to wear the ring on left hand, no? Zensational said: I was also very disappointed that Saji didn't really seem to try to comfort Louise and seemed mortified by her hand and then left her crying, obviously traumatic but his response to someone he loved was sad to me. Yeah, embrace her, kiss her, have sex... I mean - what the shit was that? He was shocked - is like saying nothing... Sabinlerose said: Now paint your machine red and get yourself a mask Graham. Take those fuckers down hard. I think it's Smirnov who should get his mask Zelnaga said: FFFUUUUUUUUU I cant fap to Neena anymore after what she did to Louise ....... Why? I can TravSavage said: And everyone thought Saji and Louise were pointless side characters. Suckers |
SerhiykoSep 3, 2013 5:12 AM
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| Holy shit! I'm speechless... You now have my full attention Gundam 00. |
| Nena is probably the most rage-inducing character I've come across in anime in a while, that assault on the marriage was just so shocking. The scene with Louise and Saji was really powerful, especially since they had always been so happy and carefree until now and it just contrasted to the comedy relief/lighthearted atmosphere they contributed to the series. Can't wait to see Setsuna take on the Gundam Thrones. I wonder what their objective is. They're removing military bases and silencing anyone who gets too close to their secrets. I have a feeling they're helping to prepare for an even bigger plan. |
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| Until now Louise and Saji had kind of been comic relief B-characters. But that scene with the ring...wow, that hit hard. Even harder than if they had killed her off. Saji is going to go full 'loco' in trying to get the Gundam's now. And when he finds out his roomie has one well.... Only someone suffering from MAL Bishoujo/-en Stockholm Syndrome could say they like Gundam Throne now. What they've done is unspeakable. |
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Marzan said: Only someone suffering from MAL Bishoujo/-en Stockholm Syndrome could say they like Gundam Throne now. What they've done is unspeakable. Why, I loved Nena even before <3 And her little fancies wouldn't change my mind |
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| Nena, you crazy murderous psycho! I've been waiting for this (3rd time watching afterall)... when Setsuna declares the Trinitys an enemy :D That's one heck of a cliffhanger. Also, the real Louise/Saji side-story is finally starting. Up until now, they've always just been "filler". |
BurntJellyJun 23, 2014 4:30 PM
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diamond-hime said: Then again who doesn't at least ask a nurse or something how she is or if she can even have visitors before bursting into her room. Good point. But being realistic wasn't the objective of this anime, and then we wouldn't have this dramatic scene |
SerhiykoAug 6, 2014 12:57 PM
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| How the hell does Trinity care about "stopping war" if they're so sadistic they can take such joy in killing the way Michael and Nena do? Johann's attacking a weapon manufacturing company is justifiable, at least, but the other two are down right sadistic. That was an intensely awesome moment with Graham, at least. And Louise... damn, I dunno how others here dislike her; the scenes with her and Saji are some of my favorite... and that was utterly terrible. I can't wait 'til Setsuna finds out what happened to her because of Nena, though it looks like he's pretty pissed at them as is. |
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| shit they just obliterated Louise's family ;_; that hospital room scene was tear jerking |
| As heroic as Setsuna may seem, attempting to solo tri-force it's an unmistakable fact that most of the gundam pilots are pretty shit and play pay-2-win, as evidenced by Graham's recent performance (and well, many of the previous battles). I don't see Setsuna doing too well here. Maybe it's even part of Veda's master plan to get Celestial Being to fuck itself manually. At least Louise wasn't paralyzed for life lol. Or seeing Saji burst in and propose only to see two-face. |
| Well, now we know the point of Saji and Louise. Go get 'em Setsuna. |
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| Crazy episode. The ending was great!! |
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| wow that was a very sad episode, poor girl. |
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| Did no one else feel that Nena's attack on the Harveys' wedding was a forced plot development? What was even going through her head? "Gee, effortlessly blowing up people all day sure is boring. I know, I'll go effortlessly blow up those people! that'll cure my boredom!" I'm also hard-pressed to believe that she thought a wedding would be more fun than flying around in a nigh-magical robot that can paint the sky red with the press of a button. |
| I mean, I get that she's probably traumatized by the attack, but you still have one hand at least; you can still wear the ring. I mean I totally get it, I wouldn't even WANT this guy to come in with rings after all that, I'm just kinda eh about the reason she rejected the ring, you know what I mean? Like, you still have A hand. Like...?? I know, I know. Petty petty petty, but also feel nothing for any of these characters, so I also kinda don't care. Actually, I guess this is about the time I should say that I'm not very fond of this show. Nothing has really grabbed my attention until the Trinity siblings came up. Everything else is really dull. And then gosh darn it, everyone looks the same with the helmets on in their Gundam. Like, who are you people?? Why does everyone seem to have the same, blank personalities with a few exceptions. Like I get it but agh, it's just taxing. |
| As the series went on, I was waiting for this moment...the moment where Louise would probably get hurt, becoming a trigger for Saji :( Well, the trigger part is just a guess, I'm not sure if Saji really will become more important later on, as in, not just a regular citizen anymore. Maybe even Louise as well, she could possibly want to avenge her family. I almost teared up during the hospital scene. I really wasn't expecting Louise to become disabled. Then again, this is Gundam, I shouldn't be surprised ;_; But also, I do agree that Louise still has her right arm left to put the ring on so it's not the end of the world. I also understand that to some girls, putting the ring on the left hand is really important, which is probably why Louise didn't even think of her right hand. And ofc, it was just wrong timing because Saji didn't know, and there's no way Louise would've come to terms yet with her situation. Nena is just terrible. It's hard to believe the Trinity actually care about eradicating war, when two characters love to fight and/or think of it as a game, while the third seems to also not have a moral compass given that he didn't even lecture Nena for her atrocious action. Maybe they do care about eradicating war, but they don't care about the reason for that goal, which is so that regular people can live in peace, so that no more innocent lives will be lost due to war. Sumeragi did say in this episode that perhaps there's a traitor in Veda, giving information to the new Gundam Meisters' organization (Laguna?) in order to build GN particle technology. So perhaps they aren't actually part of Celestial Being, but believe they are. Either way, I definitely agree with Setsuna's conclusion that the Trinity "are guilty of promoting conflict." Go get 'em! But Setsuna is still too rash, going in by himself. Luckily he has other people who will come and save his ass. |
tingyAug 25, 2018 8:23 AM
| Oh wow, things are getting interesting now |
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| FUCK TRINITY OMFG |
| Oh, no. Louise*weep* i'm so sorry. i never thought i would get attached to you, being a survivor from that massacre must be painful and you lost your hand *tears* Graham........good job Setsuna......eliminate |
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| Hmm, of course they've had to make them murder (not so) random civilians, otherwise hardly anyone would find a fault in them just because they kill soldiers and destroy military bases.... Louise, you still got the other hand tho... I've noticed Graham has become my favourite character. |
| Finally! a good episode. Go Setsuna! Kill all those who dare to stain Gundam's name with civilian blood! |
TheRestlessOneMay 23, 2021 3:50 PM
| The ending really manages to make you root for a character. I hope Setsuna kicks everyone's ass. |
| I can see Trinity getting away with the military base "interventions" by some weak "promoting war" excuse, but Nena totally did that on a whim. There was no moral grayness in that bro, damn. And I honestly found the Saji and Louise sideplot to be just kinda there so far, but man. The arm stump reveal genuinely woke me up |
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| Just rewatched the ep after more than 10 years. The hospital scene still hits like a fucking truck, Jesus Christ... I've watched all Gundams so far, and this is probably still on my top 10 gut-wrenching moments in the entire franchise. |
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