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Jun 23, 8:27 AM
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Rudeus and Roxy went all the way finally. Sensei added to harem. Second wife Roxy Greyrat. Just one episode to go.
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Rudeus... no way....

After an intense and fierce battle with the Manatite Hydra, Rudeus and his companions successfully rescued Zenith, but victory came at a great cost. Rudeus lost his left arm, and tragically, Paul lost his life in the process. Additionally, Zenith seemed to have lost her memories, leaving her emotionally distant. Overwhelmed by regret and despair over his father's death, Rudeus finds himself in a dark place. It is at this moment that Roxy steps in with comforting words. As they journey home, Roxy makes a heartfelt effort to lift Rudeus out of his depression. Both of them must now confront their emotions and grapple with the aftermath of the ordeal.

Seeing Rudeus cry is a rare thing in itself, so when it does happen, you know some shit has gone down. Shit has gone down, but it's even more rarer to see him yell at a women. But holy fuck, Roxy I did NOT know you rolled like that. Dude Rudeus didn't even stop himself from getting that pity pussy lmaoooo. Truly like father like son. But it's obvious she cares about Rudeus so ig it's fine in a way. And at least she admitted, to "taking advantage of him", and that she knew that he had a wife, alright. Roxy don't know what a harem is smh. Glad Elinalise not only knows what a harem is, but was also the one to push Rudeus to wife best girl.

It's obvious that Rudeus is NOTHING like the goat of harems, Rentaro, but he's still making his way up there, slowly but surely.


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I mean I don’t know what kind of sources the author was taking into reference when he started writing this thing.. whenever he did, but I really hope those articles emphasizing the fact that “SEX CAN CURE DEPRESSION OR IT CAN HEAL PEOPLE, PHYSICALLY OR MENTALLY”, weren’t one of those. I don’t want to blame those articles after all.

As I mean, where or when in the world has it been stated that to mourn or get over the deaths of your loved ones, the first thing you should do is go and have sex????? Lmaooo, of 1000 ways to convince someone that someone else is suffering, we went down the brazzers way? Lol. Roxy and her reasons aside, I kind of really don’t agree with her way of “helping” here. Anyway, curing your mother or feeling low after your father’s death can go to hell, let’s settle up the marriage thing first… second one:)
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Damn, Rudeus' arm got fucked up. Of course, there was Paul's death that greatly affects Rudeus and he felt despair. Not his first time feeling despair in this show but this might be the most emotional he's felt.

Roxy was by his side this time so he didn't feel sorrow alone. Elinalise has also grown to be a really likable and more mature character this season imo.
Jun 23, 8:31 AM
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Roxy sensei bold. She just loves Rudeus so much and wanted for him to bounce back. Been waiting to see this animated for so long. Love Roxy sensei and happy for them. Gotta love Elinalise too for giving him the push. Really came to like her character as the story progressed. Though idk why they decided to skip the roxy pregnanacy thing in the anime. That made more sense.
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Jun 23, 8:32 AM
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Well, this episode will go over well.

Anyway, to explain some details left out: supposedly, in their world, sex is something that helps people get over shit (at least enough to be able to start moving on) and is something Elinalise is particularly good at. Lise refused to do so for Rudy, which is when Roxy learns he's married to her granddaughter and then decides to take matters into her own hands. Later, during that talk by the campfire, Lise lies to Rudy and tells him that Roxy is pregnant, which is what convinces him to ask her to marry him.

Also, Dillo spotted. I expected it to be red, dunno why.
Jun 23, 8:35 AM
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I really feel sad seeing Zenith in that state.
She is still aware of everything around her and her memories might come back eventually .
But I wanna see her usual cheerful self back again ❤❤

Jun 23, 8:36 AM
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Pretty intense episode as a whole, Mushoku Tensei sure does love having an episode like this that would drive controversial conversations after a big action-packed episode, reminiscent of season 1 around this time.

It was really good as a whole but emotionally conflicting. I read this in the books as well and with volume 12 being my favorite, I felt like it was an emotional rollercoaster with the highs, the intense moments, the action but also moments like these that make Mushoku Tensei, Mushoku Tensei. Rudeus being that vulnerable and empty was broken and he had his regrets strike further with how he didn't give his parents a chance in his old life and now he lost Paul and his mother's in an abnormal condition as well. Roxy had her own convictions to save Rudeus no matter what, even if it is using an old-fashioned and quite controversial move that she did, especially knowing that he had a wife and soon-to-be-born kid on the way too. It was an episode that was emotionally conflicting but effective, and with each passing minute, Rudeus seems and feels more and more like Paul (in good ways and bad ones too), and that he has a lot of growing up to do to make up for the mistakes he makes. Whether it is to Sylphie, his family or in the future with his actions, he has to grow and mature as now he's technically the head of their family too. Elinalise also talking about her own values on love and multiple partners helped Rudeus' decision making a bit, since for her, Roxy is a friend she grew close to throughout the Demon Continent journey besides also being Sylphie's grandmother. Ultimately, Rudeus wants to take responsibility for what he did and like how Sylphie saved Rudeus in the past, Roxy saved Rudeus now when he was too broken to call for help and no one else could help him out while at this state.

As far as Roxy's motives go, it was indeed flawed and even though I love Roxy as a character, it was wrong of her to do so. But that's what this series has built up, flawed characters making flawed decisions. Roxy wanted to help Rudeus and in a way, also want to take advantage partly for herself but it shows that even she feels emotionally conflicted about everything and wanted to help Rudeus out while she deals with the struggles of the one person she actually loved and felt like she had a chance with, be taken away already before she had that real chance in the first place. Roxy's been sort of a perfect person that everyone loved early on but this series has built its ground on flawed characters that had to develop, grow from their mistakes and Roxy is a part of that here. I don't condone what she did but as a character, there is more to her than the surface presented early on.

Now, there were details skipped in this episode that sadly got cut due to pacing constraints since there really is not much time left to add what they could, like Roxy's conversation with Geese and Elinalise, or even another detail like Elinalise lying to Rudeus about Roxy being pregnant to force Rudeus to make a move instead of being wishy-washy. It's a shame those got cut but I feel like the episode still did a very effective job as a whole with the various emotions in play throughout the situation. Only one more episode to go, and the conversations at home about this whole ordeal not just with Paul's death, but Rudeus and Roxy is going to be quite the spectacle to say the least. Production was really solid and I did enjoy the episode a lot, just needed a couple more minutes to add a couple more details to be even better. Ironic since they even skipped the opening to add more. At least the additions with the Rudeus POV of his past life and regrets did help out with his characterization and his reflections gave depth that was needed here.

I will say this, the irony of showing the ED with Rudeus and Sylphie after what took place in this episode was unironically hilarious and painful at the same time.
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Jun 23, 8:37 AM
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Seeing how down Rudy was, Roxy came to comfort him and also took advantage of him, even though Rudy was also involved in it.

The dilemma is quite big, but it has been resolved. Now how their fate will go, although we know what Rudy, Roxy and Silphy's destiny will be (for LN readers).

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fuck mannn this episode bad af, i think this is the worst episode adaptation, they cut a lot important stuff and they show a bad one, fuckkkkk i never dissapointment like this, the worst episode in the entire MT tbh,

Mannnn they cut a fucking lot even rudy monolog even like Rudy monolog about Paul and his parent and rudy tell about his past life to roxy, why they should focus on roxy but they not even show it good like novel, mann i hope i can punch the person who write the script for this episode.

i cant even watch this episode for 5 min, i really dissapointing, this episode should solved about all issue like Rudy relationship with his parent, Roxy situation etc, but they show noneeeeeeeeee, fckkkkkkkkkkk
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Okay, I will say it: Roxy took advantage of Rudeus. There is a rule about sex with emotionally fragile people.
Jun 23, 8:39 AM
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You know, for how things were setting up, Roxy sleeping with Rudy was simply inevitable. He was vulnerable and she knew that and went for it. Sure, you could say that she "couldn't help it" but she still did it so this I can't blame Rudy for. Now, with the matter being disclosed to both parties and the possibility of polygamy as a viable option and not being as looked down on as in our world you could say that it is a plausible way out so long as Sylphie agrees. Also, considering how thirsty she was in the previous part I can confidently say she will since the proposal will be coming from Rudy himself. We'll just have to see how it plays out in the finale.

Still, I don't feel contempt with solving the issue this way, it feels a bit cheap but maybe that's my bias.
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You know, for how things were setting up, Roxy sleeping with Rudy was simply inevitable. He was vulnerable and she knew that and went for it. Sure, you could say that she "couldn't help it" but she still did it so this I can't blame Rudy for. Now, with the matter being disclosed to both parties and the possibility of polygamy as a viable option and not being as looked down on as in our world you could say that it is a plausible way out so long as Sylphie agrees. Also, considering how thirsty she was in the previous part I can confidently say she will since the proposal will be coming from Rudy himself. We'll just have to see how it plays out in the finale.

Still, I don't feel contempt with solving the issue this way, it feels a bit cheap but maybe that's my bias.
@rasterman7 yeah its cheap for solving this issue, as novel reader i think this is the worst adaptation episode so far, they cut a lot important one but show a cheap one, fuck i hope i can punch the person who write this episode script
Jun 23, 8:43 AM

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Why the director cut Elinaline telling that Roxy
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I mean I don’t know what kind of sources the author was taking into reference when he started writing this thing.. whenever he did, but I really hope those articles emphasizing the fact that “SEX CAN CURE DEPRESSION OR IT CAN HEAL PEOPLE, PHYSICALLY OR MENTALLY”, weren’t one of those. I don’t want to blame those articles after all.

As I mean, where or when in the world has it been stated that to mourn or get over the deaths of your loved ones, the first thing you should do is go and have sex????? Lmaooo, of 1000 ways to convince someone that someone else is suffering, we went down the brazzers way? Lol. Roxy and her reasons aside, I kind of really don’t agree with her way of “helping” here. Anyway, curing your mother or feeling low after your father’s death can go to hell, let’s settle up the marriage thing first… second one:)
@Softhenic03 To be honest, I'd give it a pass considering the setting. Middle ages fantasy isn't exactly the best suited for knowledge on mental health and how it works.
Jun 23, 8:46 AM
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Noice decision rudy! xD
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Well, this episode will go over well.

Anyway, to explain some details left out: supposedly, in their world, sex is something that helps people get over shit (at least enough to be able to start moving on) and is something Elinalise is particularly good at. Lise refused to do so for Rudy, which is when Roxy learns he's married to her granddaughter and then decides to take matters into her own hands. Later, during that talk by the campfire, Lise lies to Rudy and tells him that Roxy is pregnant, which is what convinces him to ask her to marry him.

Also, Dillo spotted. I expected it to be red, dunno why.
@yhunata My guy where did you find the dillo??
timestamp please....

Jun 23, 8:47 AM

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Sylphie deserved better. Could never be my MC 🤢
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All I can say is : Like Father, like son.
Both of them are my wings :3

But yeah, Roxy is the bitch here because from her own statement, she went for Rudy knowing he has a wife / baby. There are numerous ways you can encourage someone, it doesn't involve having sex and seducing someone when they're most vulnerable.
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Been thinking on how "normal" this season has be for MT standards, glad it's back.

Welcome back to the Mushoku Tensei I know.
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this episode just flew!!

I wish it lasted a little more longer. (That's what she said xD).

Seriously, Rudeus' face at the beginning. It just shows how much more depressed he was compared to after the incident with Eris and Sara. He must have not eaten for days, if he has got that kind of a face.



Roxy trying to cheer him up in her own way, but that only made the situation worse. So, she decided to sleep with him. I agree thats not the best decision, but seems like it cheered him up and he finally realizes his feelings for her. They both reciprocate their feelings with each other and come to an agreement on that proposal.

Also, feel sad about Zenith's state. She looks like a breathing statue. I'm not even sure how Lillia is coping with her grief. But she sure is a strong willed woman.



This episode was an emotional roller-coaster. I cant even imagine how the next episode will play, when Norn and Aisha learns about Paul's death and Zenith's current state
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@rasterman7 yeah its cheap for solving this issue, as novel reader i think this is the worst adaptation episode so far, they cut a lot important one but show a cheap one, fuck i hope i can punch the person who write this episode script
@KelvinNazrey May I ask what they left out from the original material? I'm not too familiar with it.
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@yhunata My guy where did you find the dillo??
timestamp please....
@-Acheron He's there when they're travelling the desert. It's a pretty quick shot, so he's easy to miss. You could also see him when they returned to Sharia.
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The master-disciple relationship between Rudeus and Roxy...IS NO MORE. Now they're one.

As Rudeus surmises his past life not feeling the love of his parents, this is the same exact situation he's facing with both Paul and Zenith, in an even more egregious way, more than just the loss of his left arm, because he felt those feelings for the first time.

Roxy trying to cheer him up after the insufferable losses, but those same losses were too great of a regret that Rudeus cannot take his words back, despite Roxy remembering her time with Rudeus and his family back in Buena Village. And as much as Roxy wants to shower her concern for him...it leads to the inevitable sex that both of them had in the heat of the moment...like father, like son, even after death. Elinalise realizing the truth of the matter after the fact, and Rudeus learning from Lilia that Zenith lost her memories, plus with it being of mana impairment, it truly is a lost cause trying to salvage whatever's left of her. And whatever it is, they need to head home with the long journey back to Buena Village.

Rudeus subconsciously achieving polygamy status with both Sylphie and Roxy, but him still remaining to be faithful to the former while loving the latter since the rescue mission, what she mentioned in Buena Village back then, the revelation came true, and that love has never wavered since he came like her knight in shining armour. Rudeus responding in kind to be a sex wolf to her just for the night, but at least thankfully she keeps him under control. But Elinalise warning Rudeus that despite the god they worship, having a harem is better to wed both wives at the same time...which is exactly Paul back then when he had both Norn and Aisha. This is a legit concern in the account of both girls, and Roxy REALLY means it of her love for Rudeus, as much as he finally opens up to her about Sylphie's situation, and really wanting to make a wife out of his master.

At least Roxy is consensual, and Rudeus has to make an important decision, like he never did before.
Jun 23, 8:58 AM

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Roxy scene is finally here.
Altough they skipped the part where Enalise suggest to Roxy that she sleeps with Rudeus.
They also skipped the part where Rudeus tells Roxy about his past life...
Jun 23, 9:00 AM

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im a bit disappointed how they didnt include elinalise mentioned roxy monthly period hasnt come ever since the deed.
its one of reasons why rudy propose roxy in the first place because hes feeling responsible
Jun 23, 9:02 AM

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No fucking way Sylphie accept this shit
Deep dark fantasies
Jun 23, 9:03 AM
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Man, you LN people need to STFU. There is still 1 more episode left.
Jun 23, 9:06 AM

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Loads of pain this ep but next ep should promise more with what that Rudeus household is going to be like when Sylphie, Norn and Aisha find out about what all happened.
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nice cool brooooo
Jun 23, 9:11 AM

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This ep is painful but so sweet, dam, Roxy deserve happiness
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That is a cruel way to get with your love. Emotionally manipulate him and take advantage of him in his worst moment. WTF Roxy!? I thought you had more class than that. Either way I still thought y'all would get together regardless because of Sylphie's grandma Elinalise helping you out.
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Just when I starting to like Rudeus... he does... this... I already knew MT was a harem series but I didn't think they'd have Rudeus collecting wives in this way. By making his first promise to his wife that he'd stay loyal and then making him cheat on her. I don't think it's completely his fault either. He was in an emotionally vulnerable spot and his teacher took advantage of him. It was way more fucked up than I thought it'd be.

It's still weird to me that Rudeus didn't tell Roxy he had a pregnant wife sooner. And she slept with him even after finding that out... And here I was thinking maybe she wouldn't have done that if she'd known... Bruh. Not that it would've been okay if she did know that.

Elinalise thinking that there's nothing wrong with loving multiple partners is funny. Like she's the last person I'd take this advice from.

Can't wait to see the reaction of Norn, Aisha and Sylphie in the last episode.
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I think my biased of having read the WN and seeing the changes it made influenced my enjoyment with this episode, I think I need to watch it again, to capture the nuance and the feels which I couldn't capture in my first viewing.

Edit: Already watched the sex part, I think it was superb IMO, glad I rewatched it again without being clouded by WN content. The nuance is there, is it impulsive? Yes. Can it be done with no sex? Probably. But, like Roxy said Rudeus is weak, as seen from his face, which probably a worse kind of relapse of depression than anything he had ever faced but probably with time he can recover but when? After the sex then probably the only time he went to his mom's room and asked about her and stop wallowing in sadness. There's no indication of how long when he's not leaving his room but from his emaciated face, I will say probably within a week or two. Yes, the sex was used for him to start moving again.
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It was a superb episode to me, I only have one nitpick,but I will leave that for the end.
No OP was great (but they should have gotten rid of the ED too), I reread this part of the LN after last episode, so I think for the most part, the essentials were adapted, properly, tastefully, and I liked the usage of the soundtrack.

Endearing to see Roxy blush near the end when he proposes for her to be called with his last name, and then finalizing with that love confession to her, perfect!

Two in the bag, and now YES, anime onlies, your suspicions are right, Rudeous will have more than one wife, and why bother stopped when the best girl Eris has yet to show her goods?!
And to anyone bitching, later on in the series you will LOVE the dynamics due to this, so bitch now, aware that someone could take your words and make you eat them later on!
So stop bitching and just enjoy fiction for what it is, your morals SUCK anyway.

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Altough they skipped the part where Enalise suggest to Roxy that she sleeps with Rudeus.
They also skipped the part where Rudeus tells Roxy about his past life...

The first isn't really a major problem, that scene you mentionated was very short in the LN too, in my memory I recalled there being more stuff before Roxy goes into attack mode, but then there wasn't that much, outside what you said, and the LN showing Rudy was still in depression and that Roxy could see WARNING signs (which she explains to him at the mid point of the episode anyway). You could say they skipped Elinalise giving him the impression that Roxy was pregnant, and I say, fuck that, to me it is more tasteful like this, no excuses, he loves her, so time to welcome GOD in your home already!

Now I do agree with your second, and that is my nitpick, he does goes to length to say that, but tbh, that scene was very disappointing in the LN cuz at the end of the deed, Roxy still feels like that is not him, and it is just his wild imagination or something, UNLIKE Eris scene in volume 15, where
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That is totally different, so it is a nitpick, but then again, zero impact for me in the scene they skipped.

I have less problems with this episode than the last, being the last was way more demanding episode to get right, they did not fuck up here (they only keep fucking Rudeous face, cuz he is meant to look way more mature than his current face does, hopefully S3 will improve on that).
Pleased with this adaptation.

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ts one of reasons why rudy propose roxy in the first place because hes feeling responsible

It is, and I always felt it was a shallow excuse to get him to bend to the idea, so I have very little problems with it, it was not essential, the episode flowed really well and made sense to me with everything.
I expected us to have less Rudeous monologues, but we got enough I feel.

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Emotionally manipulate him and take advantage of him in his worst moment. WTF Roxy!?

And you truly believe that? IMO what happened is, someone had to save him, Roxy was very aware, like she mentions later, so she did what she felt was needed to save him, morals aside.
And that did help him a lot especially because he truly loved her, what comes after is she sticking to his side, to help him since he lost an hand, and in the process she enjoying his close company while she can.
To me it is not as black and white as she took opportunity and explored his weakness, if anything this make Roxy a more humane person, she was adorable this episode.

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There are numerous ways you can encourage someone, it doesn't involve having sex and seducing someone when they're most vulnerable.

Would not have worked, the anime skipped it, but the LN showed people trying to cheer Rudeous up, nothing was working, and notice that Roxy tried that too, and Rudeous way still running way, till she grab hold of his hand and pinned him down with that kiss.
WOULDNT have worked other way, Rudeous was not only facing the loss of Paul, but also of Zenith, and realizing how he behaved when his parents died, and wishing it had been different.

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Sylphie deserved better. Could never be my MC

I feel you are being ironic, otherwise, I would say, all is fair as long as he can love them all, and it is clear that Rudeous has enough love for all them special ladies~~

thebrentinator24 said:
but it sucks to see what was cut out according to LN readers since that context seems pretty important.
Ignore them, what was cut for the most part had no chance in what was going to happen, this was a really solid adaptation of the core stuff, and I reread this part in anticipation, very pleased, and I was bitching a bit about the last episode, with the soundtrack, it was perfect this time.


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A LOT, i think i can make 1 hour video about the content they cut it, i will summary it for you

1. They cut Rudy Monolog about Paul and his past parent : this ecplain how rudy saw paul and zenith and solve about the problem on last episode when people complain about rudy didnt care about zenith
2. They skip about elinalise tell rudy roxy pregnant
3. they skip party chatter about rudy depression and how elinalise tell roxy about rudy married her grand daughter
4. Rudy tell roxy about his past life before get isekai ,and ask how deal it with this situation

They cut stuff, but keep the essentials, IMO they should have gotten rid of the ED to put some extra scenes into it, but what we had was more than enough.

1. What they keep was enough, he did say he didn't feel has Paul's soon, but if felt Paul was his father truly, after everything.
2 & 4. Already addressed it.
3. Nothing of the sort exists in the LN, I gone and check, but I recall that there had to be a scene like that too, and I read the WN version well before, so my guess is this was CUT from the LN, so there was nothing skipped here.
What Roxy says is that when they gone drinking, she heard them talking that sex was great to get a man back from a depression like that, nothing else, and Roxy felt she had to be the one doing it, since no one else was gonna do anything, and she seen the signs that Rudy would NOT recover well from this.

A LOT that could be skipped was skipped, I could be overdemading and wish they adapted it all, but realize they only have 1 more episode left, you would still have problem if there was no ED, there is no way they could include it all.
What was done here was tasteful and essential, vs the fucking desert scenes that they cut almost everything, this was great, they choose well in what they had to adapt, and if Part 2 was to be 13 episodes long, I would have preferred a full episode solely focused on the desert.

Juanchoman said:
Honestly if this season would have been 14-15 episodes it would have been perfect

Alas we have to be forced to the limitations of broadcasting airings.
It would be amazing if BDs nowadays where used to actually add such content, and maybe have 2-3 extra episodes of cut content slotted in, would be an actual proper excuse to demand such a price from them.
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@KelvinNazrey May I ask what they left out from the original material? I'm not too familiar with it.
@rasterman7 A LOT, i think i can make 1 hour video about the content they cut it, i will summary it for you

1. They cut Rudy Monolog about Paul and his past parent : this ecplain how rudy saw paul and zenith and solve about the problem on last episode when people complain about rudy didnt care about zenith
2. They skip about elinalise tell rudy roxy pregnant
3. they skip party chatter about rudy depression and how elinalise tell roxy about rudy married her grand daughter
4. Rudy tell roxy about his past life before get isekai ,and ask how deal it with this situation

and A lotttt
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They skipped a few things due to not having enough time and only one episode left. They should have also skipped the ed. But overall it was a good episode with conflicting emotions envolved.

Honestly if this season would have been 14-15 episodes it would have been perfect
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Well damn, I didn’t see things going this direction but now that I think about it, Paul was pretty much foreshadowing for Rudeus’ future, and even tho it doesn’t feel right I do really like how things went between Rudeus and Roxy, all the moments were great too, Roxy made some very cute expressions and and it’s like she said, she had to be the one to help Rudeus this time. And when Rudeus was wavering, Elinalise went and gave him the push to make it happen, let’s just hope things go the way they went for Paul or we’re looking at another bad situation lol, I’m honestly dreading the moment he breaks this news to Sylphie.

And who knows, maybe Rudeus will end up wielding three swords instead of two if Eris was to come back lol, now that would be something if he ends up with each of the girls he knew as a kid, I kinda doubt it’ll go that far, heck I’m even doubting two wives will work out but we’ll see how it goes. But, even with the distraction of this Roxy romance, it’s still lingering in the back of my mind that this teleporting between places is still somehow gonna cause problems, really hoping I’m wrong but I’m fully prepared for more pain in the final episode, what I’m not ready for is to say goodbye to Mushoku Tensei again lol.
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I think this episode will make or break a lot of people who watch this show. We will see how many people are cool with the taking multiple wives aspect that the story is introducing. We can see Rudy is in a dark place when this episode begins. Following the sacrifice that Paul made giving up his life to save Rudy its understandable that he's not mentally well. He's even been wearing the same bloody clothes from the hydra battle. Rudy has been stuck like this for days, everyone except Roxy has left him to his own devices. Roxy seeing how in despair Rudy has become makes her move. Offering herself to try and make him feel better. Its a noble effort even if we know that won't cure his anguish and its also detrimental to his current marriage. Rudy succumbing to Roxy advances as she takes control for the night. This leaves them both in an awkward spot. Rudy is still trying to understand his grief for losing Paul and now he's conflicted on loving two women at the same time. He does good though shoving down his feelings for Roxy since he made the promise to be faithful to Sylphie. But we can see how much its tearing them both up inside. Elinalise introducing the idea that Rudy marry Roxy too just like he did Sylphie. Its sweet but hinges on if Sylphie approves. There's a lot of strong emotions being swirled around here that could go in any number of directions. We'll have to see how everyone back home reacts to all these changes.
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As Sylphie fan it was kinda rough but overall MT fan it was another great episode. Roxy was the only person who could have saved Rudy then so she took advantage of him but still if she hadn't done that idk if Rudy could recover soon.

Also ik 99% people will blame Rudy but he didn't really want to cheat and even denied his feelings for a while. But when Elinalese convinced him he accepted becoming scumbag. Also Roxy want to leave after returning so she also willing to sacrifice her feelings. She did all this just to help him and was just untimely , she even accepted being a scumbag herself.

In the end Rudy want to keep everyone happy which is morally not right but fuck it it's friction and a mediaeval fantasy so it's better this way than seeing Roxy hurt.

Although both Rudy and Roxy are scum they are nobel scum. Knowing what a saint Sylphy is she will accept it just to keep everyone happy. I am sure Rudy will keep both of them happy.

Like father like son
Rip Paul and hoping for a miracle to see Zenith smile again
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@rasterman7 A LOT, i think i can make 1 hour video about the content they cut it, i will summary it for you

1. They cut Rudy Monolog about Paul and his past parent : this ecplain how rudy saw paul and zenith and solve about the problem on last episode when people complain about rudy didnt care about zenith
2. They skip about elinalise tell rudy roxy pregnant
3. they skip party chatter about rudy depression and how elinalise tell roxy about rudy married her grand daughter
4. Rudy tell roxy about his past life before get isekai ,and ask how deal it with this situation

and A lotttt
@KelvinNazrey They didn't cut most of that stuff out. It was still brought up just not directly shown. Stop acting like things didn't happen you spoiled brat. Whiner.
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I think it was weird and funny but still lovely in a way. Roxy made him recover very well this time heh. I expected him to be devastated way longer. And Rudeus slowly furning to Tengen from demon slayer. Lost arm but added wife lol
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@rasterman7 A LOT, i think i can make 1 hour video about the content they cut it, i will summary it for you

1. They cut Rudy Monolog about Paul and his past parent : this ecplain how rudy saw paul and zenith and solve about the problem on last episode when people complain about rudy didnt care about zenith
2. They skip about elinalise tell rudy roxy pregnant
3. they skip party chatter about rudy depression and how elinalise tell roxy about rudy married her grand daughter
4. Rudy tell roxy about his past life before get isekai ,and ask how deal it with this situation

and A lotttt
@KelvinNazrey I see, so that's why in some parts it felt somehwat rushed with the first 3 points being implied as happening offscreen. Point 4 is news to me.
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Good ol' MT, continuing to make people upset because the story set in a Middle Ages type setting doesn't 100% adhere to the types of morals we've come to adopt in the 21st century. Classic 🚬🐤

Looks like this episode really focused on the feelings between Roxy and Rudy during the aftermath of Paul's death, but it sucks to see what was cut out according to LN readers since that context seems pretty important. Still, Rudy has come to terms with his feelings for Roxy and seems to be heading down the Paul route of taking multiple wives. Let's see how Sylphie feels about this and if she's on board.
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fuck mannn this episode bad af, i think this is the worst episode adaptation, they cut a lot important stuff and they show a bad one, fuckkkkk i never dissapointment like this, the worst episode in the entire MT tbh,

Mannnn they cut a fucking lot even rudy monolog even like Rudy monolog about Paul and his parent and rudy tell about his past life to roxy, why they should focus on roxy but they not even show it good like novel, mann i hope i can punch the person who write the script for this episode.

i cant even watch this episode for 5 min, i really dissapointing, this episode should solved about all issue like Rudy relationship with his parent, Roxy situation etc, but they show noneeeeeeeeee, fckkkkkkkkkkk
@KelvinNazrey Stop watching then whiner. Fucking child 😂😂😂😂😂😂 go read then if you don't like it little baby
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This episode wasnt exactly done its justice, for people who haven’t read the LN it wouldn’t make as much sense, “Rudy had sex and now he feels somewhat better?” It felt a lot more conflicting in the LN, there were so many details left out of this episode that I feel like made the book much more conflicting, intense, and interesting but unfortunately because of the time left and pacing constraints it was left out(LN biased on this ep). Only if they could’ve had an extra episode or two.
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Playcool said:
It was a superb episode to me, I only have one nitpick,but I will leave that for the end.
No OP was great (but they should have gotten rid of the ED too), I reread this part of the LN after last episode, so I think for the most part, the essentials were adapted, properly, tastefully, and I liked the usage of the soundtrack.

Endearing to see Roxy blush near the end when he proposes for her to be called with his last name, and then finalizing with that love confession to her, perfect!

Two in the bag, and now YES, anime onlies, your suspicions are right, Rudeous will have more than one wife, and why bother stopped when the best girl Eris has yet to show her goods?!
And to anyone bitching, later on in the series you will LOVE the dynamics due to this, so bitch now, aware that someone could take your words and make you eat them later on!
So stop bitching and just enjoy fiction for what it is, your morals SUCK anyway.

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Altough they skipped the part where Enalise suggest to Roxy that she sleeps with Rudeus.
They also skipped the part where Rudeus tells Roxy about his past life...

The first isn't really a major problem, that scene you mentionated was very short in the LN too, in my memory I recalled there being more stuff before Roxy goes into attack mode, but then there wasn't that much, outside what you said, and the LN showing Rudy was still in depression and that Roxy could see WARNING signs (which she explains to him at the mid point of the episode anyway). You could say they skipped Elinalise giving him the impression that Roxy was pregnant, and I say, fuck that, to me it is more tasteful like this, no excuses, he loves her, so time to welcome GOD in your home already!

Now I do agree with your second, and that is my nitpick, he does goes to length to say that, but tbh, that scene was very disappointing in the LN cuz at the end of the deed, Roxy still feels like that is not him, and it is just his wild imagination or something, UNLIKE Eris scene in volume 15, where
....
That is totally different, so it is a nitpick, but then again, zero impact for me in the scene they skipped.

I have less problems with this episode than the last, being the last was way more demanding episode to get right, they did not fuck up here (they only keep fucking Rudeous face, cuz he is meant to look way more mature than his current face does, hopefully S3 will improve on that).
Pleased with this adaptation.

xiMii said:
ts one of reasons why rudy propose roxy in the first place because hes feeling responsible

It is, and I always felt it was a shallow excuse to get him to bend to the idea, so I have very little problems with it, it was not essential, the episode flowed really well and made sense to me with everything.
I expected us to have less Rudeous monologues, but we got enough I feel.

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Emotionally manipulate him and take advantage of him in his worst moment. WTF Roxy!?

And you truly believe that? IMO what happened is, someone had to save him, Roxy was very aware, like she mentions later, so she did what she felt was needed to save him, morals aside.
And that did help him a lot especially because he truly loved her, what comes after is she sticking to his side, to help him since he lost an hand, and in the process she enjoying his close company while she can.
To me it is not as black and white as she took opportunity and explored his weakness, if anything this make Roxy a more humane person, she was adorable this episode.

Ventus_S said:
There are numerous ways you can encourage someone, it doesn't involve having sex and seducing someone when they're most vulnerable.

Would not have worked, the anime skipped it, but the LN showed people trying to cheer Rudeous up, nothing was working, and notice that Roxy tried that too, and Rudeous way still running way, till she grab hold of his hand and pinned him down with that kiss.
WOULDNT have worked other way, Rudeous was not only facing the loss of Paul, but also of Zenith, and realizing how he behaved when his parents died, and wishing it had been different.

Marinate1016 said:
Sylphie deserved better. Could never be my MC

I feel you are being ironic, otherwise, I would say, all is fair as long as he can love them all, and it is clear that Rudeous has enough love for all them special ladies~~

Why would you feel I’m being sarcastic literally nothing about my comment gave that .
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I mean I don’t know what kind of sources the author was taking into reference when he started writing this thing.. whenever he did, but I really hope those articles emphasizing the fact that “SEX CAN CURE DEPRESSION OR IT CAN HEAL PEOPLE, PHYSICALLY OR MENTALLY”, weren’t one of those. I don’t want to blame those articles after all.

As I mean, where or when in the world has it been stated that to mourn or get over the deaths of your loved ones, the first thing you should do is go and have sex????? Lmaooo, of 1000 ways to convince someone that someone else is suffering, we went down the brazzers way? Lol. Roxy and her reasons aside, I kind of really don’t agree with her way of “helping” here. Anyway, curing your mother or feeling low after your father’s death can go to hell, let’s settle up the marriage thing first… second one:)
@Softhenic03 Did it look like Rudy was cured by the sex? Maybe a little but hes not back to how he was before Paul death is he???? Nope didn't think so. He's still feeling low obviously you didn't pay attention because you got stupidly upset.
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@KelvinNazrey May I ask what they left out from the original material? I'm not too familiar with it.
@rasterman7 this how rudy tell about his past life to roxy:

Covering my bottom half with a blanket, I continued to talk.
"This is just a made-up story..."
With that introduction,
I began to talk.
A story of a certain man.
As a fiction to the end.
A man who secluded himself when bad things happened to
him when he was young.
He was close to twenty years old, and lived like trash while
leeching off of his parents.
However, one day, his parents had suddenly died.
That man not only did not go to the funeral, but on the
contrary did the worst thing a human being can do.
Seeing that, his other family members beat him up and
threw him out of the house.
The man had lost everything, but luck brought him to a new
land, and he turned over a new leaf, and devoted himself to
change for the better.

His lifestyle was going well, and he thought that he would
be happy if things kept like this.
But, currently right now, because of a big failure, he let a
person important to him die.
Because of that, that man remembered his parents deaths.
That man only then had mourned his parents' deaths.
I told that kind of story.
The more I talked about this, it felt my heart was spewing
out pus.
I wonder if I just wanted someone to hear this.
Was it something that easy, I wonder?
"..."
Roxy listened quietly.
Not cutting in with agreement, just silently listening.
"What do you think that man should do?"
"..."
Roxy remained silent.
She might not know how to respond when being told such a
story all of a sudden.
There would be no way that she would believe that this was
a story of my life.
She is a wise person, so she may think that there is a
hidden meaning to it.

"...If it was me, I would go to my parents' graves. I don't
think it's too late even now. The same with talking to the
other family members."
"But, the graves and the family members are far away, and
he can't easily go to them. He may also be unable to return.
That man has another life, he made a family in the new
land, and he cherishes them dearly."
"He can't go back?"
"Yes. In the first place, the possibility that he can't go back
is quite high."
Roxy again became silent at that.
But, this time it was short.
"In that case, there's nothing to be done. Now, he should
take care of the family that's in front of him."
Roxy's words were awfully cliché.
They were words anybody could come up with and say.
It wasn't special or anything, just something that was
obvious.
"Even Paul would have wished for you to do so, Rudi."
Roxy said something obvious in a matter-of-fact way.
Self-flattering.
Commonplace words.
Words that she heard from somewhere.
"Please face the future. Everybody is waiting for you."
But, my heart felt refreshed.

Yeah.
It was common.
The death of my parents in my previous life, and Paul's
death as well.
This was something obvious.
There is no choice but to accept that and face forward.
I am living in this world.
And I will continue to live in this world.
Paul's death, and Zenith that became a cripple.
The anxiety of going back and telling that to my waiting
family in the north.
The anxiety of not knowing what to do now.
It was a future full of anxiety.
But, I mustn't run away.
I have no choice but to solve what's in front of me right
now.
Though I do not know specifically what I should do.
I have no choice but to solve them one by one.
Coming to this world, hadn't I already decided?
That in this world, I will live it to the fullest.
Then, I must not turn my eyes away.
No matter what kind of difficulties occur from now on, I will
overcome them.

It's no good if I don't at least that.
Yes, I've realized once again.
Though realizing that, it's not like the pain subsided.
However, I felt that I broke out of something.
"Sensei."
"Yes."
"Thank you very much."
Again, Roxy has rescued me.
Even giving thanks would not be enough.
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@KelvinNazrey I see, so that's why in some parts it felt somehwat rushed with the first 3 points being implied as happening offscreen. Point 4 is news to me.
@rasterman7 It's less of him telling Roxy but more of implying 'through a story', rather than himself admitting it directly. The anime at least did show a little bit of Rudeus leaking out his past a bit with Roxy but through him yelling when he was talking about how he thought he was starting over, which had some implications of itself that didn't necessarily correlate to Paul and Zenith.
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