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adesh17 said:

CielIsAWeeb said:

Everyone says “bake first” but I regret watching watching bake first, watch the Kizu movies, then neko, then bake

If you watch Kizu first you would not understand anything.

Kizu literally explains everything that bake doesnt.
Honestly i was so lost watching bake first

Jul 13, 2023 5:22 AM

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GreatCarerJack said:

adesh17 said:

If you watch Kizu first you would not understand anything.

Kizu literally explains everything that bake doesnt.
Honestly i was so lost watching bake first

Yes, I was too at first after watching Bake. But if you watch Kizu first I think you wouldn't enjoy it as much as after finishing Bake First. In Bake, they introduced all characters so it became easier to understand the movies.

What do you think?!

My mal account is not working properly. In the last 24 hours, there isn't showing any forum discussion. What should I do?!

Jul 13, 2023 6:07 AM

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V121ONENDWAR said:

CielIsAWeeb said:

Everyone says “bake first” but I regret watching watching bake first, watch the Kizu movies, then neko, then bake

Fffffffact! watch in chronological order. the story makes more sense that way.

its kinda like Star Wars. how would you watch Star War. Releas date or in chronological order...✨️

Obviously when it comes time for me to have a child and show them Star Wars for the first time I would start with the original trilogy then prequels.

Jul 13, 2023 6:14 AM

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adesh17 said:

GreatCarerJack said:

Kizu literally explains everything that bake doesnt.
Honestly i was so lost watching bake first

Yes, I was too at first after watching Bake. But if you watch Kizu first I think you wouldn't enjoy it as much as after finishing Bake First. In Bake, they introduced all characters so it became easier to understand the movies.

What do you think?!

I think that is how I experienced it and how it made most sense to experience it my first time around.

Jul 13, 2023 6:27 AM

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Cheggeronis said:
I am completely new to the "Monogatari Series" and I am just wondering if I can watch this plus the other 2 Kizumonogatari movies or if I need to start somewhere else. And if I do need to start somewhere else where should I start?

This is how you should watch it. Then watch it in chronological order after your first watch. I’m currently watching the series a second time.

The right mindset when watching an anime is hoping that it will break your top 10

Jul 13, 2023 6:35 AM

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V121ONENDWAR said:
Fffffffact! watch in chronological order. the story makes more sense that way.

That's called "Mystery".
That's kinda nonsense to say chronological order is better when you have both Naruto and Shingeki no Kyojin in you favorites...

"Genius lives only one storey above madness."
– Arthur Schopenhauer.

"Stupidity is a talent for misconception."
– Edgar Allan Poe.

"I'm tired... and hungry."
– Alexioos95.

Jul 13, 2023 6:43 AM

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start with kizu because its the only good part of the series

Jul 13, 2023 10:12 AM

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adesh17 said:

GreatCarerJack said:

Kizu literally explains everything that bake doesnt.
Honestly i was so lost watching bake first

Yes, I was too at first after watching Bake. But if you watch Kizu first I think you wouldn't enjoy it as much as after finishing Bake First. In Bake, they introduced all characters so it became easier to understand the movies.

What do you think?!

actually as a character introduction point bake sucks outside of the girls each arc centres on.
the way they explain araragi being a half vampire is… “something that happened last summer” when tsubasa is introduced its “we went through a lot last summer”
I think people forget how bad bake is at introducing these characters especially, not even a vague hint, feels more like you switched on season two of literally any show ever

Jul 13, 2023 10:14 AM

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V121ONENDWAR said:

Fffffffact! watch in chronological order. the story makes more sense that way.

its kinda like Star Wars. how would you watch Star War. Releas date or in chronological order...✨️

Obviously when it comes time for me to have a child and show them Star Wars for the first time I would start with the original trilogy then prequels.

I would show a kid the prequels first, despite preferring the original trilogy i would probably do the entire franchise in order (excluding the kotor games since they’re not exactly thrilling for a kid and barely tie in)

Jul 13, 2023 10:16 AM

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GreatCarerJack said:

CBPman9001 said:

Obviously when it comes time for me to have a child and show them Star Wars for the first time I would start with the original trilogy then prequels.

I would show a kid the prequels first, despite preferring the original trilogy i would probably do the entire franchise in order (excluding the kotor games since they’re not exactly thrilling for a kid and barely tie in)

So you’d start with Legends material and work their way up the timeline?

Jul 13, 2023 10:19 AM

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CBPman9001 said:

GreatCarerJack said:

I would show a kid the prequels first, despite preferring the original trilogy i would probably do the entire franchise in order (excluding the kotor games since they’re not exactly thrilling for a kid and barely tie in)

So you’d start with Legends material and work their way up the timeline?

i mean movies and series only, including clone wars rebels etc, then recommend when they’re a bit more advanced reading the thrawn books (i will refuse to acknowledge the sequel trilogy)

Jul 13, 2023 10:24 AM

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GreatCarerJack said:

CBPman9001 said:

So you’d start with Legends material and work their way up the timeline?

i mean movies and series only, including clone wars rebels etc, then recommend when they’re a bit more advanced reading the thrawn books (i will refuse to acknowledge the sequel trilogy)

Same about the sequel trilogy and pretty much everything else except I feel it would be best to start them with Luke instead of Anakin.

Jul 13, 2023 10:36 AM

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how many more watch order threads will I see before I die

Jul 13, 2023 10:49 AM

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Kizu and Bake are interchangeable in my opinion. After those two, I would suggest release order.

Jul 13, 2023 10:52 AM

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Kizu and bake are not interchangable.monogatari is meant to be consumed in the novel release order,people complaining about a mystrey series selectively presenting information are absolutely clueless

Jul 13, 2023 1:34 PM

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I don’t think you have to watch the others first the 3 movies are a story within itself. I understood it and only now am i learning its connected to other shows

Jul 13, 2023 1:35 PM

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VilexRoss said:
First season
bakemonogatari (2009)
Nisemonogatari (2012)
Nekomonogatari Black (2012)
Monogatari Series Second Season (2013)
Hanamonogatari (2014)
Final season
Tsukimonogatari (2014)
Owarimonogatari (2015)
Koyomimonogatari (2016)
Kizumonogatari Part 1: Tekketsu (2016)
Kizumonogatari Part 2: Nekketsu (2016)
Kizumonogatari Part 3: Reiketsu (2017)
Owarimonogatari (Part 2) (2017)
Zoku Owarimonogatari (2018)

Do you know the chronological timeline order in the monogatari universe?

Jul 13, 2023 3:24 PM

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The movies literally serve as a prequel to how Koyomi met Kiss Shot Acerola Orion Heart Under Blade and how he bacame friends with Tsubasa leading into Bakemonogatari. The movies explains how Koyomi became a vampire in the first place because Heart Under Blade didn't want to die after being hunted down by vampire hunters with her arms, legs, and heart stolen so he fights to regain her original body and power believing she would turn him into a human again leading up to how she ended up bonded to Koyomi in the first place as Kiss Shot remains in a weak state until she drinks his blood to get some of her power back helping Koyomi when necessary

Jul 13, 2023 5:09 PM

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5thofvodka said:

VilexRoss said:
First season
bakemonogatari (2009)
Nisemonogatari (2012)
Nekomonogatari Black (2012)
Monogatari Series Second Season (2013)
Hanamonogatari (2014)
Final season
Tsukimonogatari (2014)
Owarimonogatari (2015)
Koyomimonogatari (2016)
Kizumonogatari Part 1: Tekketsu (2016)
Kizumonogatari Part 2: Nekketsu (2016)
Kizumonogatari Part 3: Reiketsu (2017)
Owarimonogatari (Part 2) (2017)
Zoku Owarimonogatari (2018)

Do you know the chronological timeline order in the monogatari universe?

I do but for first time viewers release order is recommended.

Kizumonogatari I: Tekketsu-Hen (2016)

Kizumonogatari II: Nekketsu-Hen (2016)

Kizumonogatari III: Reiketsu-Hen (2016)

Nekomonogatari (2012)

Bakemonogatari (2009)

Nisemonogatari (2012)

Monogatari Series: Second Season (2013)

Tsukimonogatari (2014)

Owarimonogatari I (2015)

Koyomimonogatari (2016)

Owarimonogatari II (2017)

Zoku Owarimonogatari (2018)

Hanamonogatari (2014)

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Jul 13, 2023 6:19 PM

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You can watch the Kizu movies if you don't want to watch anything else, if you're interested in the series, then novel order is the only answer.

If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that.

Jul 13, 2023 7:58 PM

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Cheggeronis said:
I am completely new to the "Monogatari Series" and I am just wondering if I can watch this plus the other 2 Kizumonogatari movies or if I need to start somewhere else. And if I do need to start somewhere else where should I start?

Bakemonogatari first

Jul 13, 2023 9:29 PM

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Pyro said:
Monogatari is not meant to be experienced chronologically. If you do, then you'll be both more confused and spoiled. It takes out the charm of the series, and you'd be going against the author's own intentions. The story was written in a nonlinear fashion on purpose. First time watchers should never do it.

The novel order is the ideal experience, but Shaft's release order is very close. You can go with either, really. Bakemonogatari is first before anything.

Novel order: https://i.imgur.com/nfiEEn3.jpg

I second this, screenshot is correct. This is the way the author intended

Jul 14, 2023 5:32 AM

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VilexRoss said:
First season
bakemonogatari (2009)
Nisemonogatari (2012)
Nekomonogatari Black (2012)
Monogatari Series Second Season (2013)
Hanamonogatari (2014)
Final season
Tsukimonogatari (2014)
Owarimonogatari (2015)
Koyomimonogatari (2016)
Kizumonogatari Part 1: Tekketsu (2016)
Kizumonogatari Part 2: Nekketsu (2016)
Kizumonogatari Part 3: Reiketsu (2017)
Owarimonogatari (Part 2) (2017)
Zoku Owarimonogatari (2018)

Wrong. OP look up novel release order.

Jul 14, 2023 7:42 AM

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VilexRoss said:

Yelltah said:

Wrong. OP look up novel release order.

I am talking about anime release order.
quoting me is unnecessary.

No one asked the wrong watch order.
quoting me is unnecessary.

Jul 14, 2023 9:48 AM

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If you want to watch in order, I suggest you watch this first. I watched this first and Kizu really sets the mood of the show—where it all begun.

Jul 14, 2023 6:39 PM

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Bake, then Kizu, then Nise, there’s a watch order guide for the best experience

Jul 14, 2023 6:43 PM

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V121ONENDWAR said:

CielIsAWeeb said:

Everyone says “bake first” but I regret watching watching bake first, watch the Kizu movies, then neko, then bake

Fffffffact! watch in chronological order. the story makes more sense that way.

its kinda like Star Wars. how would you watch Star War. Releas date or in chronological order...✨️

Light Novel release order is done in a way where they connect, Kizu is like a Zero, and Zeros you normally watch later as a backstory arc, which is why Kizu comes second, it’s better this way because it’s about Character introduction and building up wonder. Like why won’t he be with Hanekawa? You find out in the 4th season, Nekomonogatari, but there’s no reason to know earlier, if you do chronological order characters are just thrown at ya and done in a way that doesn’t work like Haruhi Suzumiya, rewatching in Chronological with all the KoyomiMonogatari’ is more recommended after watching Ln release

Jul 14, 2023 6:43 PM

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VilexRoss said:
First season
bakemonogatari (2009)
Nisemonogatari (2012)
Nekomonogatari Black (2012)
Monogatari Series Second Season (2013)
Hanamonogatari (2014)
Final season
Tsukimonogatari (2014)
Owarimonogatari (2015)
Koyomimonogatari (2016)
Kizumonogatari Part 1: Tekketsu (2016)
Kizumonogatari Part 2: Nekketsu (2016)
Kizumonogatari Part 3: Reiketsu (2017)
Owarimonogatari (Part 2) (2017)
Zoku Owarimonogatari (2018)

Kizu comes after bake, the rest of the list is correct

Jul 14, 2023 6:45 PM

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hanekawastiddi said:

CielIsAWeeb said:

Everyone says “bake first” but I regret watching watching bake first, watch the Kizu movies, then neko, then bake

I agree with this. I hated watching bake first. Honestly feel you should watch kizu first so you’re not confused about the most important character (subjectively) in the series: shinobu. And the origin story helps understand later arcs imo.

It’s better to be confused about her, she was a mysterious character that was the whole point, her disappearing made us wonder what was done wrong. Kizu is complete spoilers and ruins the experience

Jul 14, 2023 6:46 PM

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GreatCarerJack said:

adesh17 said:

If you watch Kizu first you would not understand anything.

Kizu literally explains everything that bake doesnt.
Honestly i was so lost watching bake first

Kizu doesn’t explain anything, nor does it have to do with apparitions. It’s just spoilers that ruins the Hanekawa arc of bake

Jul 14, 2023 6:47 PM

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