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Apr 12, 2021 10:03 AM
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Ah yes, Machi. She's still around school but seems to be much better terms with Yuki this season.

Also got to see Mitsuru's parents this episode. There's still a lot of drama around thanks to Akito's presence. The very presence of Akito's character brings out the most intense and explified feelings of this show. I think the VA does a fantastic job at voicing the character, especially for their various emotions. We even got to see a kiss!
Apr 12, 2021 11:02 AM
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The more we learn about Akito, the more we know that Akito is not just a female with the behaviour of a brat, but a by-product of abuse. Now it's not just the 3 Somas, but adding in Tohru too for a taboo topic that cannot be shared with a slip of the tongue.

I've always despised the Yuki Fanclub, how can girls like them be so one-focused lols. To see the whole school go gung-ho on Yuki, it's a surprise that he's been having fun since Season 2. And of course, Machi is back, and she's a tad better than ever...I still ship these two like they're meant for each other. Same with Tohru and Kyo.

Kureno has been freed from the Soma curse, and the other Somas (e.g. Isuzu) are trying to do the same, which is a good thing. In regards to Shigure's hidden personality, this episode strikes as being one of his worst behaviours seen ever since the beginning of the series. The joking brother has become the devilish and cold character in the feud between him and Kureno, in desperation against Akito's whims of love by sealing with a forced kiss.

A pretty dark episode, one of the most darkest Fruits Basket as ever been.
Apr 12, 2021 11:10 AM
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Right, I was wondering what the real significance behind Kurenai-san breaking the curse last week was aside from Akito-san’s fear but it’s starting to make a lot more sense now.

And then there’s Shigure who’s totally playing around, lol. Sleeping with her mom to “test” her, that’s wicked stuff. We’re starting to see more and more of Akito-san’s weaknesses and flaws but not at the stage yet where I can ignore her past actions, if I’m to be brutally honest.

Momoji ;-; Got to feel for Honda-san who’s unable to share all these.

Machi and Yuki’s little moment was so adorable! Where’d that come from? But please, give more of that. Pairing’s confirmed pretty much, I’d an inkling for a while but it’s sealed now.
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Apr 12, 2021 11:14 AM
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Idk what I just watched but what I do know is that it was a madness
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Apr 12, 2021 11:15 AM
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After tying up the loose ends from the end of season two last week now the story goes into its next phase with Tohru actively trying to break the curse and find out who she can tell all this secret information to. We got to see three major ships highlighted in this episode. Tohru and Kyo had a great moment with Tohru "hypothetically" someone broke the zodiac curse what would that mean. Kyo not thinking that's been remotely possible kinda brushes her off which does make Tohru said. His reactions to Tohru feeling down was adorable. Kyo realizing he upset Tohru leading to him fidgeting around and finally giving her a paper flower like the class had been making. Its so adorable and sums up how fair they've come talking together over the seasons.

Yuki and Machi having their own moment with Machi trying very hard to find Yuki to say good morning. Yuki not going in a path around the school that's easy for Machi bump into him. Her running up then acting cold was very cute. I love their subtle attraction towards one another. Machi coming to terms with her feelings while Yuki looks to get to know her more.

The biggest aspect of the episode was definitely Shigure and Akito. The two have known each other a long time. With that comes pain and remembrance like with the promise they made to each other years ago. Shigure unwavering that he loves Akito. Their love is a bit different than the other loves in this story. A more twisted love with enough passion to burn a house down. Backstabbing each other for sleeping with someone else is pretty intense. They're very complicated than most of the other ships here but we will see more of them later.
Apr 12, 2021 11:15 AM
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This zodiac system is kinda like reverse harem gone wrong, gone sexual.
Apr 12, 2021 11:30 AM
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Akito is a perplexing character. At times she can be furious, angry, loud, spoiled child; however, she can turn into this soft, gentle pitiful girl in an instant.
Apr 12, 2021 11:36 AM
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Man, I love Shigure's evil eyes. Akito used her "womanhood" to capture him and Shigure gave in, I didn't expect them to actually do it. I wonder how their relationship will change now that they've done it. It was a great episode.
Apr 12, 2021 11:40 AM
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We learn in this episode that Shigure is a literal mother fucker. lol, I can finally say it.
Machi and Yuki's scene was pretty adorable with Machi chasing after him whole over school then blushing & showing her tsundere side.
Kyo and Tohru flower scene also showcase Kyogoing all worried over Tohru after she became sad.
That whole Shigure and Akito story is very complex u could say toxic as well with both of them backstabbing each other cuz the other cheated on them. While Kureno also being in this mess cuz he couldn't leave Akito alone. And Ren being mentioned cuz Shigure slept with her. Also, that tie scene was so sexy animated waited so long for that scene.
Overall quite an intense episode.
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Apr 12, 2021 11:56 AM

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This is why i always found Shigure to be one of the most interesting characters of this show, from all the people he hates her the most, and at the same time loves her the most.
Apr 12, 2021 12:00 PM
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Jesus, every character in this show needs a fucking therapist
Apr 12, 2021 12:04 PM
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The Yuki fan club is crazy but not as crazy but not as crazy as the Machi x Yuki relationship and the Shigure x Akito relationship
Apr 12, 2021 12:10 PM

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I never thought that Shigure would have that kind of personality. So he really loves Akito. I wonder why Akito has a messed up personality. I'm assuming her mother, Ren, had a huge part in it.

Machi and Yuki's ​moment was great. They would make a great couple and the ship seems to be taking off. Well, judging from the OP's visuals, that seems to be the case. And honestly, I can't stop listening to the OP.

Tohru is really conflicted about whether she should talk to someone about what Kureno told her. It pains to see her like that.

Apr 12, 2021 12:16 PM

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Ok, so this episode adapts chapters 100-101.

Most of it is like manga, with very little changes, not important.

What I don't like is that they still show Momiji so short around 04:00, he should be the same height as Tooru now. :(

Looks like next episode is chapter 102.

BTW, I don't like the Shigure-Akito pairing, they are both too twisted so I can't cheer them on (not to mention I HATE Akito).
But I do love me some Kyou-Tooru and Yuki-Machi, those were cute scenes. <3 (My fav pairing is Haru-Rin though, need to see more of that.)
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Apr 12, 2021 12:20 PM

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The flower scene ^_^







They're quite easy to make; I've made them lots of times. xD silly students complaining about a literally 3-minute activity.

How to make them:

Get three pieces of tissue paper and put them together
Fold them like a paper fan
Fold the fan in half and staple in the middle Trim off the closed end so you have two open ends.
Pull the tissue paper layers apart to make the petals. :3



Apr 12, 2021 12:28 PM
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i don't know what i just watched.... firstly that yuki x machi moment was so cute! they seem closer now which i'm happy about. Also as always kyo and tohru giving be diatetes with how precious they are. poor kyo got so stressed when he saw tohru sad :( Then the madness comes... let me just say this, if akito and shigure actually ends up together, it will be a good definition of a toxic relationship. like wtf? he slept with her mother bcs akito slept with kureno? and him saying he wants to crush her to a pulp? and at the end they ended up sleeping with each other...

nonetheless this episode was amazing and full madness
Apr 12, 2021 12:35 PM

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At least you can't say that Akito x Shigure is lacking spice lol

Brought back some memories

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Apr 12, 2021 12:38 PM
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Jesus, every character in this show needs a fucking therapist


Agree. None more than Akito, though. Lots and lots and lots of therapy.
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Apr 12, 2021 12:41 PM

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Shit got tense at the end, but honestly the highlight was the Yuki x Machi moment on the stairs, that was just too adorable and I wanted more of that.

Honestly, it's so hard to grasp what the relationship between Shigure and Akito is. Feels like a love-hate relationship. Just the fact of Shigure sleeping with Akito's mother, cause Akito slept with Kureno just baffles my mind lol. Now they actually did sleep with each other, call me shocked. Pretty crazy scenes.

Now Tohru continues her search for Isuzu.
Apr 12, 2021 12:54 PM

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The entire Akito-Ren-Shigure-Kureno thing is just straight out of a Jerry Springer episode.

Also, I'm going to need more Yuki x Machi for sure.
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Apr 12, 2021 1:08 PM
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So Akito isn't only a b*tch but also a whore.

Seriously the only couples that i care in this series are Machi x Yuki and Hattori X Sensei. Couldn't care less about others.
Apr 12, 2021 1:12 PM
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This is why i always found Shigure to be one of the most interesting characters of this show, from all the people he hates her the most, and at the same time loves her the most.


Finally someone gets it😭
Apr 12, 2021 1:14 PM

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The whole situation between Shigeru and Akito is just too weird and messed up...
At least with all the drama going on, we got to see flower scenes with Yuki x Machi and Kyou x Tooru. They're so cute!!!
Love the new OP ^^
Apr 12, 2021 1:15 PM
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This keeps making Shigure for me (anime only) a interesting character like i can’t wait for more sorry if y’all hate him or whatever but that’s my opinion 😭
Apr 12, 2021 1:21 PM

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there was a lot packed into this episode. we're starting to see some yuki x machi, kyo x tohru, and shigure x akito. it was interesting to see shigure and akito's relationship this episode, although I'm still confused as to how he can both hate and love her so much.

honestly I don't think this show is good anymore but I'm watching because I'm already two seasons in and might as well finish it off. i hope something intriguing happens soon to regain my interest.
Apr 12, 2021 1:22 PM

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ah remember the good ol'days when Shigure just appeared as the cocky dad like character and nothing more lol

hot damn Shigure is an omega sadist, loves Akito the most yet at the same time wants to crush her as well.

also Machi tsundere scene was cute af, seeing Yuki blush as well loool
Apr 12, 2021 1:29 PM

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honestly I don't think this show is good anymore


What? Why would you think that?



Apr 12, 2021 1:35 PM
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Chiibi said:
Basiccake said:


honestly I don't think this show is good anymore


What? Why would you think that?
Just trying to be a moral jesus, don't mind her
Apr 12, 2021 2:04 PM

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ah remember the good ol'days when Shigure just appeared as the cocky dad like character and nothing more lol

feels like forever ago since we first met him so the reveal also was a long time coming, glad to see we're finally cracking open even some of the toughest eggs haha
Apr 12, 2021 2:25 PM

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Chapters 100 and 101 were adapted for this episode. Beyond a few scenes being shortened or additional dialogue being added, not much to comment on for changes. Here's what I spotted for differences in this episode:

-When Akito awoke after dreaming about her confession to Shigure, she was asleep in a limo with Kureno in the manga instead of in a futon. As a result of the scene change, Kureno informing Akito that they’ve reached their destination was removed from the anime. This scene was present at the start of Chapter 101.
-Tohru’s hesitance to ask Shigure about Akito’s gender and her thoughts pertaining to the issue were cut short in the anime.
-When Tohru got surprised by Takei’s yell about graduating, there was a short bit of her, Momiji, and Takei depicted in stick figure form in the manga.
-While surprised with Machi seeking him out instead of other students, Yuki recalled seeing the other students he encountered in the manga.
-The dialogue with the two waitresses in response to Mitsuru’s call was added for the anime.
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Apr 12, 2021 2:32 PM
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great episode, it was intense but not overbearing.

seeing tohru struggle with kepping secrets(especially from kyo) is a bit hard to watch, as all i want her to do is share everything with him and hana-chan and uo-chan, but hopefully she'll be able to confide in rin next episode or something, i also missed her and the interactions between them.

honestly, wasn't a huge fan of the opening and while the ending was ok, it didn't astound me, the visuals are nice but it has been a while since the show had a great opening for me, but maybe they're saving some aces for the last cour.

thank god this is airing as i really needed something to look forward to every week and my anime of the year for two(and possibly three) years running is more than qualified for that, see you all next week.
Apr 12, 2021 3:28 PM

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Machi best girl made an appearance. I think it would be a nice story ending if her and Yuki could make a go of things.

Id always considered Akito to be an supernatural entity acting as a antagonist and generally making everyone's lives miserable. But this season opening sequence has totally blown that notion apart and if anything I can empathise with the character and understand there emotional responses and actions in a very different light given what they have experienced. Its blown the whole show up.

Tooru also now looks to be increasingly suffering mentally now she has learned so much more about the Soma family and there secrets, and not knowing who she can talk to due to the cataclysmic revelations she now holds truth too.

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Apr 12, 2021 3:29 PM

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Ooo okay. This is getting intense now and there is so much things going on in this episode.

Machi and Yuki were so cute together in this episode. I’m glad she’s getting some more screen time next episode as well as her interactions with Yuki. Now, Tohru. Tohru’s “hypothetical” question was ideally interesting, yet it doesn’t seem Kyo being satisfied due to his acceptance of his fate after graduation, meaning there is no hope for the curse to break. That moment between the two highlight this episode, including the others.

Damn, Shigure knows what he is doing. What makes his character so well beyond interesting is that he is self aware on his perplexed doings and wanted Akito to understand the wrong commitments she has done throughout her role as a god. Also, the love fume relationship between Shigure and Akito is purely toxic and twisted.

Oh right, did anyone saw Rin at the end?
Apr 12, 2021 3:42 PM
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I was in shock when everything came out between Shigure and Akito. Also THE MUSIC!!! The soundtrack adds so much and I love it
Apr 12, 2021 4:13 PM
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Kyoru moments are back!!

Apr 12, 2021 4:55 PM
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My “awwwwww - melt” moment of the ep was the look on Kyo’s face as he handed Tohru the paper flower - squee! I can’t imagine how hard it was for her to keep inside the information she knows about Kureno and Akito.
The Yuki / Machi moment was cute - talk about a tsundere, though! Surprised she went so far as to slap him for patting her head, lol. But I was still glad to see some progress there. Too many other people unknowingly exclude Yuki while trying to be “polite” and that leads to him being lonely.
Shigure and Akito ... wow. I agree with some others on here that they really need a LOT of counseling if that relationship is ever going to work. Seems highly toxic with this trying to “one-up” each other - you hurt me so I’m going to hurt you thing. I did see some posts where people seemed to think that was the first time they slept together. I’m not a manga reader, but I got the feeling that definitely was not their first time. Shigure is 100% not the person I thought he was in S1. I don’t necessarily dislike him (yet), but I do have to wonder how he really feels about some of the other zodiacs such as Kyo - how can he possibly agree with how Akito treats him?? And Yuki too. Is the big brother act he puts on for Kyo and Yuki truly all a lie? (Hypothetical question - I don’t want to be spoiled!)
Apr 12, 2021 5:05 PM
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I may get flak for it but I didn't like this one. Some moments between kyo and tohru and then yuki and machi were great but shigure was being a jerk to the girl he supposedly loves. Not cool.
Apr 12, 2021 5:51 PM

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I really have no words for Shigure and Akito, seriously... Akito's been a asshole this whole time and Shigure just likes to add ashes to the fire :/

Yuki x Machi moment was cute but Kyo x Tohru was very sweet >w< <3 What a moment!

Great episode! Very emotional too!

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Apr 12, 2021 5:59 PM
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great episode! though, that kyoru scene lol. like always, got interrupted by uotani and her gang haha.
hmm.. shigure really does like to cause trouble, doesn't he? adding more fire to the flame. i guess this episode was really focused on shigure and akito's relationship. i can't wait for the next one~ 8D

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Apr 12, 2021 6:02 PM

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When I first watched the OG series in, like, 2012, I really thought of Fruits Basket as a romance with some aspects of drama. Especially with the way it ended with the reveal of Kyo's "true form," it was dramatic and heartwrenching, but ultimately not too too much.

But if you told me that the full story would include any of the stuff that we saw in this week's episode... Man, I don't know what I'd do.

I'm really apprehensive of some people calling Akito and Shigure a "ship," mainly because 1) their relationship is god awfully toxic and 2) they're (at most)distant cousins. Which I should be used to at this point with Fruits Basket but still... I don't think I can ever get used to how much incest is in here. I will admit, though, that it adds a lot of darkness to the drama within the family and the curse that plagues them.

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Fruits Basket but still... I don't think I can ever get used to how much incest is in here.


Um cousin relationships are not incest...it's not even in any dictionary online. Cousins are permitted to marry in many, many countries, including Japan.

"Incest" refers to sexual relations in your intermediate family; mother, father, siblings etc.



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This episode just had me with more questions that need to be answered. The more I watch this show, the more I fall in love with it.
Apr 12, 2021 6:29 PM
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I've read the manga up to the ending. So... I kinda know what'll happen lol
Apr 12, 2021 6:32 PM

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I adore this show! The Kyo-Tohru moment, the slowly developing relationship between Yuki and Machi -- and oh I how I love Shigure. Akito and Shigure have me riveted.

That phone call flashback between Shigure and Kureno -- ouch! When Shigure told Kureno he hated him, it revealed so much. And ugh, the back and forth between Akito and Shigure and how they hurt each other -- it's clear they've had this argument over and over, just as it's clear they love each other. I do enjoy the angst, no lie. I love all the emotions in this tragic family. But in the end, I want them all to find happiness!
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Fruits Basket but still... I don't think I can ever get used to how much incest is in here.


Um cousin relationships are not incest...it's not even in any dictionary online. Cousins are permitted to marry in many, many countries, including Japan.

"Incest" refers to sexual relations in your intermediate family; mother, father, siblings etc.


Yeah, most people are still gonna find it weird to date or sleep with your cousin. Regardless of legality, it's still controversial. I don't care about dictionary definitions. I, and lots of other viewers (granted mostly Western viewers), think it's weird.
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I'VE HAD IT! This story could've had enough of its repetition of the past!
I thought Fruits Basket was gonna be a straightforward 3rd and Final season but it's not, it's still repeats mistakes from the 2nd season! What's the purpose of this anime having to exist if it's just being repetitive and having crybabies, Huh?

HEAR ME OUT, Don't get me wrong!

If you'll look back to the 2nd half of 2nd season, this is where things should've already been a step forward, and to find the members' resolve.
What happened instead? They just keep being dishonest to themselves and kept remembering their dark past, especially the flashbacks(most of which were already shown in the 1st season although it's brief). They barbecued the entire time in Autumn for nothing and it's already Winter, there isn't enough time left to make up with that resolve right? Or else face permanent confinement, never to be disbanded.
Take into consideration Isuzu, she still hates Hatsuharu. Even in this season she still hates him and simply moves away from him. Hatsuharu is struggling to get her respect back because she keeps staying away, therefore their problems cannot be resolved and they can't get their proper relationship back.
Kyo is another example, he's that tsundere guy who hasn't even resolved anything and kept leaning on Tooru just doing all the romance.
I hate to say this but the similar thing goes to Yuki. Even he can't be honest with himself and still wants to get glued to Tooru, despite Manabe trying to cheer him up, but what he's doing isn't funny. It's just cringe.

Kureno is so attached to Akito and still wants to stay alongside her even with his curse disbanded. He still wants to stay with someone who already abused him before? That's terrible!
And just because it's a "FAKE" bond that Akito made, IT-DOESN'T-MAKE-ANY-FKING-SENSE!!!
Akito is not excused, because all that hypocrisy she had done was already beyond the line, in other words "It's all her fault from the beginning". And he just step away from Tooru and go back home.
Which is why I was very disappointed with the ending of S2, it's terrible because of him resisting to live freely. That terrible start happened again in the 1st episode.

And Tooru can't even ask Shigure about what Kureno said about that "stupid" bonds, just because she's scared. If she asked, then at least she has an idea why.


This anime is unwatchable. I can't hold back anymore in watching it. It'd be better if the story was properly executed, the same path from where the 1st half of S2 left off .

You better kick yourself out and find another anime that can explain problems and find solutions better and more simple than this anime full of "complicated mess".
Don't be fooled with the OP and ED, it's just making you love the anime that doesn't even entertain you. This is now one of the worst anime I've ever watched.
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Chiibi said:


Um cousin relationships are not incest...it's not even in any dictionary online. Cousins are permitted to marry in many, many countries, including Japan.

"Incest" refers to sexual relations in your intermediate family; mother, father, siblings etc.


Yeah, most people are still gonna find it weird to date or sleep with your cousin. Regardless of legality, it's still controversial. I don't care about dictionary definitions. I, and lots of other viewers (granted mostly Western viewers), think it's weird.


Finding something "weird"=/= illegal sexual relationships.
"People from a different country find other country's cultures "weird". More at 11.



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Well, quite the spicy episode we got this week, huh? Finding out that sly dog Shigure slept with Ren because Akito "betrayed" him by sleeping with Kureno first was like damn son. Also that tie-pulling scene was so sexy.
Now seriously, I always liked Shigure and think his character is quite intriguing but damn, what a twisted man he is. He seems to be the possessive borderline sadist and extremely jealous kind of lover and the relationship he has with Akito is so messed up. She's the person he hates the most but the one he loves the most as well. Toxic love-hate relationship at its finest.

As for Tohru, it's sad to see her this troubled regarding who she should or should not talk to but let's hope Rin can be able to lift some weight out of the girl's shoulders. That is, of course, if Ren didn't abduct her when she sneaked into the Sohma estate last episode.
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Damn what a spicy episode. We finally know why Shigure despises Kureno and why he said all of that while being on the phone with him.
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Pretty lighthearted beginning with the flowers and the Tohru and Kyou scene, though it seems as of late Tohru has been really hard on herself mentally.

The bits with the editor are always funny LOL.

Serious scene with Akito at the end, we got to learn more about the dynamic between Shigure, Kureno, and Akito. I guess Kureno did some things (well more than things) to get on Shigure's bad side, I hope this will be further elaborated on later in the season
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