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Dec 24, 2020 8:09 PM
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Now, they all got a 10 thousand years-long rest.
I wonder if the hiatus will be 10 thousand years-long aswell... O.O
Dec 24, 2020 8:31 PM
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Everyone is happy and no longer has to fight, but Phos has to suffer again for 10000 years...or at least for however long the hiatus remains. I'm happy for the gems, but damn our Phos can't catch a break.
Dec 24, 2020 9:01 PM
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When Antarc said "Where's phosphophyllite" dude I teared up so goddamn bad

Please don't let the hiatus be THAT long...

Dec 24, 2020 9:06 PM
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When Antarc said "Where's phosphophyllite" dude I teared up so goddamn bad

Please don't let the hiatus be THAT long...


It sad the way they can't meet but it would be better for Antarc to not meet with current Phos, who does not even remember him/herself anymore, please let the joyful Phos live on in Antarc's memory.
Dec 24, 2020 9:24 PM
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At first, I was kinda sad about the gems turning on one-another, but now I really do hope Phos gets proper revenge on them all now.

Also how did Kongou and Antarc get revived? Not sure if it was really explained when I was reading it, unless he lied to Phos about the recovery of gems???

Anyways, see you all in 10,000 years for chapter 96
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Dec 24, 2020 10:08 PM
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I'm hoping Admirabilis to appear and give some help to Phos...somehow.
Someone please stop the Phos suffering...


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Dec 24, 2020 11:44 PM
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So I guess we are near the end? All Lunarians will disappear once Phos starts praying.
Phos will probably leave in grief until new gems are created ... maybe.
I don't see a good ending for Phos. At the same time, I don't see how we can get another arc. The manga won't get past 100 chapters.
Dec 25, 2020 4:11 AM
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So I guess we are near the end? All Lunarians will disappear once Phos starts praying.
Phos will probably leave in grief until new gems are created ... maybe.
I don't see a good ending for Phos. At the same time, I don't see how we can get another arc. The manga won't get past 100 chapters.
Yeah mostly 108 since I heard its an important number in buddhism. This chapter was so heart breaking! Phos was made to suffer so everyone can be happy. After 10K years even the gems who had lost their purpose now would probably beg phos to pray them away
Dec 25, 2020 12:14 PM
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Ningen_Slayer said:
UaEfAlCoN83 said:
So I guess we are near the end? All Lunarians will disappear once Phos starts praying.
Phos will probably leave in grief until new gems are created ... maybe.
I don't see a good ending for Phos. At the same time, I don't see how we can get another arc. The manga won't get past 100 chapters.
Yeah mostly 108 since I heard its an important number in buddhism. This chapter was so heart breaking! Phos was made to suffer so everyone can be happy. After 10K years even the gems who had lost their purpose now would probably beg phos to pray them away

I thought 100 was the important number lol.
Anyways it could actually go past 108; I saw this nice theory and if it is true then we are getting one mote arc.

First the author can show how the gems are living in the moon; she needs to show Shinsha (Cinnabar) and how grateful cinnabar is to Phos.
Also, Enma/Achema expects Phos to become a divine creature, but in Buddhism, this never happens unless you achieve nirvana — which is like the ultimate perfect peace. But what if Phos after these 10k years had all these regrets and felt extremely depressed and sad? Then it will probably become like a demon creature and never pray ... this will be the next arc where they need to convince Phos to pray for them.
Dec 25, 2020 12:48 PM

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Why phos needs to suffer so much
From airhead and useless gem to ultimate saver of thousands and thousands souls and absolute monster. What a great character
Peak of character development indeed. But we sure do miss her smile, let's cross our fingers to see it once again after 10 thousand-years...
Dec 25, 2020 12:56 PM

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MartinKetchum said:
Kotopec1337 said:
Why phos needs to suffer so much
From airhead and useless gem to ultimate saver of thousands and thousands souls and absolute monster. What a great character
Peak of character development indeed. But we sure do miss her smile, let's cross our fingers to see it once again after 10 thousand-years...
yeah dude, I really miss her smile
Dec 25, 2020 3:45 PM
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The gems have all been transformed into lunarians The war is over
Dec 26, 2020 4:46 AM

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i was happy because phos' wish came true but bro, didn't expect them to become lunarians but, phos just cant have a break. i just cant, we want to help our little phos
Dec 26, 2020 6:23 AM

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I wonder if making Phos as the next machine prayer has been planned by Kongo from chapter 1 when Phos got his first job. Nonetheless, 10 thousand years is such a pain in the ass for Phos, I can't stop crying
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i was happy because phos' wish came true but bro, didn't expect them to become lunarians but, phos just cant have a break. i just cant, we want to help our little phos


I can’t wait to see the gems regretting how they treated phos after seeing that lunarians are actually not evil ...

Probably no one would even care ... which is sad
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UaEfAlCoN83 said:
x_Aq said:
i was happy because phos' wish came true but bro, didn't expect them to become lunarians but, phos just cant have a break. i just cant, we want to help our little phos


I can’t wait to see the gems regretting how they treated phos after seeing that lunarians are actually now evil ...

Probably no one would even care ... which is sad


to think a hero who saved everyone would suffer the most, i just cant. the feels and emotions in this chapter keeps rolling down my cheeks. never imagined it would turn out to be this painful and depressing.
Jan 4, 2021 4:43 PM

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Dude... Why the author hates Phos so much?
This is so depressing.
10 000 years ? How cruel can that be?
Jan 4, 2021 8:08 PM

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Wow. I feel really bad for Phos. The way Phos was depicted in these last chapters is it supposed to represent how messed up humans were?
Oh my, the betrayal and the lies from that dude, Enma to Phos.
It was nice to see Antarc again though. I feel so sad that they couldn't reunite.

Trust issues man...
Jan 5, 2021 11:26 AM

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I wouldn't blame phos if she turn into a freaking demon after 10 thousand year of suffering . I actually kinda prefer if phos just say fuck it and decided not to pray for anyone cause holy crap she went through a lot .
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to my understanding, turning gems to lunarians means that the gems have souls, right? they may have been a different life form but now they too can go to nothingness after Phos prays for them.
Lots of info in this chapter, also the memories of the moon gems resurfaced of that shady crater in space, wondering what was the point of this info, let's say we take those memories and put them into their correspondent gems, does that means we can have the past gems safe and sound? it's inaccessible now but curious about what will happen.
Phos is alone on earth and I feel that the floes can interact with her, same with admirabilis, hard to believe Phos will pray now because the old gems she knew will be gone.

see you in 10.000 years
Jan 6, 2021 4:18 AM

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It's really sad to see how Phos is the only one who is excluded from the grand reunion, while he was the one who suffered through everything to bring everyone back.
It could be said that he was greedy for knowledge but if it kept on going like that all gems would be taken by the Lunarians and scattered around anyway. And now, even Antarc is back :,( It really did bring me to tears when the first thing he asked about was Phos. Yet they all deleted him out of existence, quite literally. It really hurts to see he can't remember his past self... 10000 years of existential pain, here we go
Jan 6, 2021 9:17 AM

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I feel like gems becoming lunarians isn't such good thing. So far everyone who went to moon has turned worse- selfish, against their brethen and used Phos when those who had remained had positive changes due to dire circumstances, Cinnabar and Bort especially.

I feel like the happiness was in the beginning when Phos was oblivious. The more she got to know the more she lost parts of herself turning her into monster.

And when u think of Lunarians, they have everything- but they only want nothingness. Maybe the struggle was what made life happy for the gems. Made them rely on others, most of them having tight relations with other gems and sensei.

I wonder if divine being that Phos is becoming is going to become what Achema hopes. Is the happiness she will pray for going to be what he thinks. Somehow I don't think it will, at some point this using of Phos at her expense will blow up on their faces.
Jan 7, 2021 2:01 AM

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I have a feeling that Lapis will play an important role during the 10000 years.
Jan 15, 2021 10:15 PM
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This is just a theory but what if (hear me out), Phos pulls a Kongo and has a sort of malfunction. And this malfunction causes Phos to not be able to pray the lunarians away, as what happened to Kongo. I think that the story will somehow warp all the way back to the begging ngl, bust instead of Kongo, it'll be Phos. This doesn't make sense to most people but I just needed a place to put my thoughts lmaoo
Jan 20, 2021 3:58 AM

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I literally cried
phos doesn't deserve that
Jan 22, 2021 6:40 AM

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This is just a theory but what if (hear me out), Phos pulls a Kongo and has a sort of malfunction. And this malfunction causes Phos to not be able to pray the lunarians away, as what happened to Kongo. I think that the story will somehow warp all the way back to the begging ngl, bust instead of Kongo, it'll be Phos. This doesn't make sense to most people but I just needed a place to put my thoughts lmaoo


I don't think this will happen, because Adamant is a machine while Phos has become human. Also, I hope this doesn't happen, because Phos has been through so much and deserves some sort of closure and peace.
Jan 25, 2021 9:41 AM
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phos deserved so much better. it sucks seeing phos all alone while everyone is happy and together.
Jan 27, 2021 7:46 AM
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I'm hoping Admirabilis to appear and give some help to Phos...somehow.
Someone please stop the Phos suffering...



Me too, but I think it could be safe to say that all the moon Admirabilis have been slaughtered so the only hope is the generations after the latest Royal Admirabilis
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J0es said:
This is just a theory but what if (hear me out), Phos pulls a Kongo and has a sort of malfunction. And this malfunction causes Phos to not be able to pray the lunarians away, as what happened to Kongo. I think that the story will somehow warp all the way back to the begging ngl, bust instead of Kongo, it'll be Phos. This doesn't make sense to most people but I just needed a place to put my thoughts lmaoo

thought about that myself in the past, maybe the trick here is that the lunarians should pray themselves into nothingness considering that they are evil souls and they have to learn a lesson in death. there is that story about the evil guy on the cross alonside jesus (I know hnk is more buddhist but still), he was evil but in his twelfth hour he accepted what evil deeds he did and wanted to be one with god.
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That 10'000 years rest and hiatus announce tho e.e
it makes you weigh everything more realistically, Ichikawa-san got it out well
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Feb 9, 2021 3:47 PM

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Oh men, this was painful, just pain, more pain oh and i fprgot, extra pain

I got a headache.. kudos to the writer, she make the readers feel so bad for pho painful existance... isnhard to achieve that ext4eme empathy for a character, is not only torture them, is good writing that make the trick

Thats why i like this but couldnt stan any gorey anime since is plain torture porn ... this is the story of decending into madness, slowly becoming someone else, the story of your own choices being your demise

I want pho to be happy, poor him
Feb 13, 2021 2:38 PM

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Everyone else is in a slice of life
While phos is in berserk
Feb 24, 2021 1:13 PM
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Holy hell, I just read through the entire thing in a day, and I've never felt more confused and betrayed during a manga reading. Just what HAPPENED? There was so much information going on that I couldn't process it, so let me get my head straight. Phos wanted everyone to get along and be in peace. He wanted Adamant to pray to let everyone go, but he physically couldn't. The gems, who were on Adamant's side, wanted to kill Phos for it. I just wondered why they hated Phos so much for not letting Adamant pray for them to have peace. Or is it that they don't want peace?

And then the turning of the gems into lunarians. Basically, I hated it. Not as in, "I hate this story, it's terrible", because it was certainly interesting, but I hated it nevertheless X') I couldn't comprehend how they looked so okay with Phos suffering for 10k years for them. He went through a heck ton of suffering for their sake, but they literally went, "yes, see you in 10k years."

It's unfair.
Feb 25, 2021 7:50 PM
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That ending was... perfect. Even if the manga ends right here, it would be a perfect open-ended finale for me, reminded me to end of eva
Feb 27, 2021 12:24 PM
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My prediction is that Cinnabar will be the only one to not become a Lunarian
Mar 1, 2021 6:27 AM

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When you think about it Phos is the only one in the series who didn't have a chance to reflect upon what is happening around them. They had over 300 years worth of timeskips and memory loss. Since the day they decided to go explore the ocean it was seemingly mistake after mistake every step of the way. For such static lifeforms, Phos the Mineral went through so much change so quickly that it is understandable they lost their marbles.

Now not only they've been given seemingly infinite amount of time to think they've also got all the memories of Adamant to go along with it. I imagine that many years will be filled with depression and pain, but there will be chance for great introspection.

Needless to say the wait for the finale will be a long one..
Mar 2, 2021 8:20 PM

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Geezus! Please stop shitting on Phos!!

Doesn't it look Phos is turning into something that's...

almost human?

They don't seem to be the least bit afraid of what's going to happen to them when Phos starts to pray in 10,000 years. They should probably start running now.
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Mar 3, 2021 7:21 AM

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The gems better not get prayed away too... With the next timeskip, Phos' personality will probably change beyond recognition, to an even higher degree than before.
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Mar 10, 2021 8:08 AM
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Damn what a ride, I wouldn't mind if the hiatus never ends because this was a really conclusive ending.
Mar 10, 2021 2:27 PM
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What a fantastic ending.
Honestly would have been a fantastic ending if there wasn't going to be more, but I am still excited to see how this plays out post hiatus. I have full trust in our one true goddess ichikawa haruko. Phosphophyllite is probably my new favorite character- i mean that development was insane- but every character was great, i especially loved cinnabar and dia.
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Yet again this manga reminds me why it's one of my favourites.

....But oh my stars please give the best gem a good end.

Also, if anyone's curious about the symbolism and the whole transformation thing going on with Phos, there's a YouTube video called 'Houseki no Kuni Ch.82-93 Analysis - The Broken Bodhisattva' that has a pretty good insight about how the story is progressing. I'd give it a watch, even if it might not turn out to be a correct theory.

I genuinely find the idea that Enma is making Phos into a sort of Bodhisattva, intriguing. Especially considering the nuggets of information that Ichikawa has left for us all the way leading to this chapter.
Mar 17, 2021 10:53 AM

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This ending left me broken and shattered... guess all that's left to do now is to wait, and to pray.
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Apr 15, 2021 10:56 PM
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So bones can be converted into spirit, not sure abt this. Atleast antarc is same. Events took a bizzare turn, after anime the series got really unpredictable.

Don't think there is gonna be an immediate time skip unless all phos do is sleep for 10000yrs. It will be nice to see a new character, phos is beyond broke and needs some real support.


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Everyone else is in a slice of life
While phos is in berserk


yeah exactly this
May 7, 2021 1:30 AM
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Phos really cant catch a break, 10000 years just broke my heart they don't deserve this. Literally how can Koungo be so cruel. Hope this hiatus isnt too long.
May 7, 2021 1:33 AM
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We will probably have to wait for 10 months (10000 years). We have already waited for 5 months TT
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i hope there wouldnt be any next chapters.
for me it is complete and solid.

any water will destroy that perfect monument
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i hope there wouldnt be any next chapters.
for me it is complete and solid.

any water will destroy that perfect monument


It won't be finished until the autor says it is. Looking at the other works of ichikawa, they know perfectly how wrap their stories, and yeah, they really like these kind of bittersweet/tragic endings, but i think they can still go on with more and probably it would get even better.
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Hopefully not, HnK has accomplished a lot for the amount of chapters that have been released thus far. Really hoping we start getting chapters in the near future, it's a true beauty from the art to the writing.
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I think that this cannot be a nice spot where to end the story, since the climax of the story still hasn't reached. The focus of the plot for these 30-35 chapters moved around the fact of getting the wish done, but it still hasn't happened.

Also this 2 chapters added if Phos would actually praise for them and how it will happen, because there are lots of things that can occur during 10000 years that can make her change her opinion. Will she be the perfect god that is required or she will just turn into a devil? And we shouldn't forget about Lapis - where in the case that she is still there will undoubtedly change the outcome.

So many questions that if its the case it would end up on a really loose ending. Still would give the manga a 10/10 tho
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