| i'm looking for seinen kind of stuff so without spoiler , is this anime worth watching ? how do u rate the story ? Edit : after watching it , it wasn't that bad , it is worth watching . |
TheAdoMay 21, 2020 4:23 PM
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| i like it, was good, most ppl dont like the ending of it but it used to have a 7.8 rating before if u care for rating ig i found enjoyment in it also the mods deleted the top review which gave it a 10 score for some reason, kinda bs |
| I gave it a 5/10. I initially had it at 8/10 but the story started getting worse. It is full of shock factor and pretentious bs. Went downhill in the middle, after a major tone shift. Maybe watch a bit of it to hold an opinion but there are many better mystery anime out there. |
| It seems bad, although I've never watched it. From what I can gather, it's about an evil woman who makes men horny with her lips, and then they all blow their brains out. :P |
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Seiya said: That's actually pretty accurate.From what I can gather, it's about an evil woman who makes men horny with her lips, and then they all blow their brains out. :P |
Mayuka said: Seiya said: That's actually pretty accurate.From what I can gather, it's about an evil woman who makes men horny with her lips, and then they all blow their brains out. :P Lol. I guess I shouldn't be surprised. :P |
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| It's fukin amazing in the beginning, has an amazing villain and a pretty nice story to it. The latter half though, it declines a lot. If you're familiar with some of the author's other works like KADO, it's pretty similar in that the 2nd half feels like a completely different tone from the first The cover art though, has some of the best foreshadowings I think I've seen in any show lol |
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| For me, it was one of my favorites when it was airing but in the middle, they just overcomplicating everything and I felt like that was unnecessary. I haven't finished Babylon yet as I'm only on episode 7 but what I just mentioned is keeping me from picking it back up |
Seiya said: wow thats seems so exciting lol It seems bad, although I've never watched it. From what I can gather, it's about an evil woman who makes men horny with her lips, and then they all blow their brains out. :P |
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| It was good in the beginning and quite unique. The second half almost looks like a whole new anime but with the same characters and I would find it okay if well executed, but somehow it took all the 'hype' away from the beginning. |
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Mayuka said: i see .. I gave it a 5/10. I initially had it at 8/10 but the story started getting worse. It is full of shock factor and pretentious bs. Went downhill in the middle, after a major tone shift. Maybe watch a bit of it to hold an opinion but there are many better mystery anime out there. so any good recommendation ? |
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TheAdo said: Mayuka said: i see .. I gave it a 5/10. I initially had it at 8/10 but the story started getting worse. It is full of shock factor and pretentious bs. Went downhill in the middle, after a major tone shift. Maybe watch a bit of it to hold an opinion but there are many better mystery anime out there. so any good recommendation ? https://myanimelist.net/anime/407/Tantei_Gakuen_Q https://myanimelist.net/anime/8425/Gosick https://myanimelist.net/anime/3574/Switch |
| Ending definitely was bad, but I don't think it destroyed the experience of the other episodes. Those episodes were amazing and if it wasn't for the final episode it would easily be one of my top 5 anime from 2019. Still gave it an 8/10. There are far worse shounen shows rated above 8.00 here on MAL. |
BetterTasteMay 11, 2020 11:38 AM
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| I really didn't like it. Wasn't into it much from the start, but only got worse and worse and worse by the end sadly. Massive clusterfuck, boring characters, etc. Only noteworthy thing I'm positive about was the directing for some of the scenes. |
YutakaYamadafan said: sure i will do ............TheAdo said: i'm looking for seinen kind of stuff so without spoiler , is this anime worth watching ? how do u rate the story ? The 1st 7 episodes are really enjoyable. However ep 8-12 dont really capture the feelings that the 1st 7 had. But with that being said It was a good watch i recommend you giving it a chance. At the very least watch the 1st 3 episodes give it a chance |
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| When they introduced that Mary Sue main female antagonist, that's when the show truly started to become a convoluted yet immature dumpster fire trying to sound smart all the way. All the good atmosphere and tones it had were tossed aside in favor of ridiculous and nonsensical banter about ideals, morales, and humanity. Nothing was truly solved, nearly everything just ended off so vaguely. it deserved 2/10 at best. |
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| Everyone saying the second half sucks is hard for me to believe. Seeing the first three episodes, I'm like "No WAY this could end poorly." Then I remember Rage of Bahamut: Virgin Soul, and I go "Oh yeah. Totally possible." |
| Be a better consumer. "Look, the main difference between me and Digibro is he still likes anime." "I can't identify with this dirtbag of a main character" is not a valid reason for hating a show. |
| Yes. Yes it was that bad. Please save yourself and don't even think about trying it. I am currently searching for salvation myself after watching that steaming pile of horse shit. I might be too late with this reply, but seriously. Dont. Even. Bother. |
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YutakaYamadafan said: TheAdo said: sure i will do ............ Ok sweet. Let me know what you think of it. it was a good anime i enjoyed watching it in general , the ending is debatable it pissed me off somehow . the anime didnt drop after the 7th episode as people saying , the only thing that would make this show better is a more explanation for the story and magasai ai charachter i give it 7/10 ovr |
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| A solid 7 at the start that starts drunkenly wandering and ends up in the gutter. Not worth your time really. |
YutakaYamadafan said: is that true ?! or its just your conclusion , if it is from the manga or novel its ok to tell me more cause i wanna know more about the story and magasi ability .TheAdo said: it was a good anime i enjoyed watching it in general , the ending is debatable it pissed me off somehow . the anime didnt drop after the 7th episode as people saying , the only thing that would make this show better is a more explanation for the story and magasai ai charachter i give it 7/10 ovr Thank you for getting back to me. The reason why i feel it drops in quality after ep 7 is it the attention is drawn away from magase and kinda pushed on the president of the United States and the politics of the show. Don't get me wrong i liked the politics but wish the focus stayed on Magase and Zen. And yes the ending ticked me off too. I wanted Zen to kill Her. And whats even worse is it implies Spolier...... That magase is gonna kill Zens wife and kid in the final scene. |
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YutakaYamadafan said: No i havent read the novel it was my conclusion. I'd figured thats what probably she would do. And yea the only real info they gave us is her voice seduces people into getting a urge to kill themselves the anime ending was so dark . after i looked up ( if u wanna know ) : |
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| little did the plebs know. Babylonia is just an arc out of 8 arc'ed saga. I doubted that people will grasp the power system shenanigans since its announcement without earlier exposure to the previous arcs and the ''build up'' to the most buffed one and the already established tropes. otherwise the tone ''shift'' would just seem random and new rather than just the plain usual stuff as in the previous arcs. mooners already knew what's up. so it's up to their taste whether the adaptation lived up to their expectations. |
| Babylon.... man that show really irritated me. Now I have to type out a massive rant on it which I never got the chance to vent out ever since it ended. When I started Babylon it pleasantly surprised me and I thought damn, this show is giving me slight Psycho-Pass vibes, which was a good sign. I was coincidentally craving to watch an anime like this at the time and I thought I could be in luck here. The story had me intrigued, I liked the MC, the villain was enigmatic, I liked the dark tone and the controversial themes that the show didn't seem hesitant to explore. Even recommended my friends to check it out. I personally had it rated at a 9 after the 7/8 episodes and had it down as the sleeper of the season. Up until that point, I thought the story had built up nicely and I was confident the show would surely not become a trainwreck towards the end after all the good work it had done right? Wrong. After those first 7/8 episodes though, the show just went south...big time. Thing is, with 4/5 episodes left, the story had built up to a point where it just needed to give us answers on certain things and on the motives of certain characters, Ai Magase in particular. I was expecting some sort of thrilling confrontation as the finale and an appropriate ending regardless of whether if it was a happy or even conclusive. Unfortunately, the show just completely failed to deliver on any of that and flopped big time. For the remaining episodes, the show basically decided to shoot itself in the foot. It introduced a new setting and new characters. Nothing wrong with that. The problem was, there were only 4/5 episodes left and the show then decided to mostly focus on these new characters. In one particular episode, these characters spent the entire time pointlessly debating on the topic of suicide and they just went around in circles for 20 mins. What was the point of this episode? None. Ultimately, there was no payoff from any of these characters whatsoever. It was just pointless to introduce them in the first place. I still gave it a chance though and was hoping there would be some sort of payoff...but there wasn't. When there was only 1 episode left, there were still no answers, no explanations, no resolutions....nothing. At this point, I didn't think even a good or satisfying ending could salvage the show. Turns out the ending was hardly satisfying. Instead the ending was absolutely terrible and the worst part of the whole show for me. Almost felt to me like the show knew it had gone off the rails and instead of wasting any attempt to salvage itself, it just decided to hammer the nail in its own coffin. In short, the show basically had all the ingredients to be a success but it just fucked itself over. I can give you a simple summary of the whole show but it's a spoiler so wouldn't recommend clicking on it if you still plan to watch the anime. I honestly don't know what goal, aim or message the author was angling for or trying to convey with this anime to the viewer but whatever it was, he didn't get it across. Maybe he's just an avid advocate for suicide or maybe he was just living out a fantasy he has over a fetish for femme fatale serial killers? Maybe he's just a damn troll? I couldn't fucking tell ya. The only positive though is that I have heard the manga has a different ending and even though it's probably a predictable ending, it still sounds like a much better ending than that horrendous ending of the anime. So just based off that, I think you'll honestly be better off just reading the manga instead. So yeh, that's my 2 cents on Babylon. Ah, it felt good to let all that out. |
Light888May 21, 2020 6:56 PM
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YutakaYamadafan said: Anax_of_Rhodes said: Everyone saying the second half sucks is hard for me to believe. Seeing the first three episodes, I'm like "No WAY this could end poorly." Then I remember Rage of Bahamut: Virgin Soul, and I go "Oh yeah. Totally possible." Did u finish it yet. If you dont think the 2nd half goes down hill thats ok but I'd like to know your thoughts. Please and thank you No, I haven't yet. Been busy. Not mentally prepared. Probably this weekend. |
| Be a better consumer. "Look, the main difference between me and Digibro is he still likes anime." "I can't identify with this dirtbag of a main character" is not a valid reason for hating a show. |
| Babylon was not THAT bad , for the first nine or so episodes it was on of my favorite anime of the year, but it went downhill so fast after its hiatus.apparently the writer of the show has a bad reputation for horribly ending another anime called Kado the right answer. I remember mid season, the anime was at a 7.8 on MAL and when it finished, the score went down so much, so I assumed others did not like how it concluded either. |
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I'm caught up through Episode 8. The change in perspective to a completely new character on the other side of the globe didn't bother me, because the presentation seemed to remain the same, but I could see that bothering others. While I haven't seen anything yet suggesting I should give this less than a 10/10, I'm very prepared to get disappointed these last 4 episodes. |
| Be a better consumer. "Look, the main difference between me and Digibro is he still likes anime." "I can't identify with this dirtbag of a main character" is not a valid reason for hating a show. |
Anax_of_Rhodes said: its not as bad as u are thinking ppl are just over hating and i almost hated it too but a week later after i finished it and when everything settled i started to kind like it more .I'm caught up through Episode 8. The change in perspective to a completely new character on the other side of the globe didn't bother me, because the presentation seemed to remain the same, but I could see that bothering others. While I haven't seen anything yet suggesting I should give this less than a 10/10, I'm very prepared to get disappointed these last 4 episodes. |
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At first it was good,but the ending was really bad.i think that's the main reason why people hate this. |
| Wife caught up with me and we watched Episode 9. ...I gotta set it down for tonight, we'll wrap it up tomorrow. Whoooooooweeeeee. That jump scare was incredibly effective. Wow. Woweewow. Phew. Anyone not faint of heart should experience the existential, SCP-level horror of that episode. Still waiting for this show to suck, by the way. I have a feeling about what'll happen at the end and I ain't scared of it. A tragic ending wouldn't make the show bad. A drastic change in presentation is required to do that. My guess here is people just don't like the conclusions made and vented via their low scores, but that's not fair if that's the case. We'll see. |
Anax_of_RhodesJun 1, 2020 9:33 PM
| Be a better consumer. "Look, the main difference between me and Digibro is he still likes anime." "I can't identify with this dirtbag of a main character" is not a valid reason for hating a show. |
| Aight, we wrapped it up tonight. I'll write a proper review in full, so this'll be a quick recap of thoughts. The only episode I could see people legit get frustrated about is Ep 11. Most of that is "galaxy-brain" basic morality discussion amongst world leaders. It's not terribly compelling. I grant that. Nothing else about the final episodes is remotely out-of-place. None of it is bad. I kept seeing things that other series (predominantly Death Note and Mr. Robot) did right and BABYLON does well, as well. This is easily better than Death Note, by the way, by a huge margin. The moral discussion is supposed to be imitated in real life. Dunno how under-a-rock y'all have been, but the past few months have seen all the world's major powers make drastic changes out of fear of an invisible, easily-communicable virus. Basic morality questions are hotly debated all over, like the freedom or necessity to wear a mask, or carpool, or hug and handshake, or the massive economic impact. Does Magase not sound coincidentally just like COVID-19 in a ton of ways? Especially in terms of how it's crippled the world's strongest leaders? And this came out months before discovery of the virus, just for reference. The second half focuses on President Wood instead of Zen; check the right side of the OP to see his bespectacled visage rise up opposite side of Zen's shadow. Zen's half was quick, punctual, snappy, professional. Wood's half is softer, quieter, thoughtful, considerate. That's his style. While I understand the frustration of those hoping it'd stay consistent, it didn't 'cause the protagonist changed. Again, besides Ep 11, which was President Wood's attitude and methodology writ large, there's no damning differences between the two halves. This show is fantastic. Easy 10/10 from me. We had a blast watching it. Please no Season 2. Good stories have endings, not extra sequels. |
Anax_of_RhodesJun 2, 2020 9:38 PM
| Be a better consumer. "Look, the main difference between me and Digibro is he still likes anime." "I can't identify with this dirtbag of a main character" is not a valid reason for hating a show. |
Anax_of_Rhodes said: Aight, we wrapped it up tonight. I'll write a proper review in full, so this'll be a quick recap of thoughts. The only episode I could see people legit get frustrated about is Ep 11. Most of that is "galaxy-brain" basic morality discussion amongst world leaders. It's not terribly compelling. I grant that. Nothing else about the final episodes is remotely out-of-place. None of it is bad. I kept seeing things that other series (predominantly Death Note and Mr. Robot) did right and BABYLON does well, as well. This is easily better than Death Note, by the way, by a huge margin. The moral discussion is supposed to be imitated in real life. Dunno how under-a-rock y'all have been, but the past few months have seen all the world's major powers make drastic changes out of fear of an invisible, easily-communicable virus. Basic morality questions are hotly debated all over, like the freedom or necessity to wear a mask, or carpool, or hug and handshake, or the massive economic impact. Does Magase not sound coincidentally just like COVID-19 in a ton of ways? Especially in terms of how it's crippled the world's strongest leaders? And this came out months before discovery of the virus, just for reference. The second half focuses on President Wood instead of Zen; check the right side of the OP to see his bespectacled visage rise up opposite side of Zen's shadow. Zen's half was quick, punctual, snappy, professional. Wood's half is softer, quieter, thoughtful, considerate. That's his style. While I understand the frustration of those hoping it'd stay consistent, it didn't 'cause the protagonist changed. Again, besides Ep 11, which was President Wood's attitude and methodology writ large, there's no damning differences between the two halves. This show is fantastic. Easy 10/10 from me. We had a blast watching it. Please no Season 2. Good stories have endings, not extra sequels. Glad u liked it , people was expecting a shonen ending that satisfy everyone , at first i didn't like the kind open ending but i liked it after i get more understanding for the show . what u get from this that the rate doesn't matter anymore . |
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| It's funny because I don't usually agree with any of the general line of thinking and substance of the arguments made by the type of people who are criticizing Babylon now, I loathe the word "pretentious" as I find it to be an overused, misused and abused anti-intellectual dogwhistle term, and so on, but here there is actually some merit to the complaints that Babylon at the very least came off feeling way too simplistic and rushed for the scale and gravity of the subject matter it was attempting to tackle. It gave it a regrettably shallow feel, even though the premise in and of itself is interesting. Nothing surrounding the primary antagonist was really ever explained or afforded any proper development either shown or discussed, and the dialogue was overall a fair bit too basic for its central importance given it's a dialogue-driven show. In other words, it feels like a lot of rushed one-off 12 or 13 episode series if they don't have time to more organically unfold but are compelled to zip from plot point to plot point. As a result, even civilization-ending phenomena start to lack the needed vitality and emotional punch. I did so much want to love it seeing as Magase Ai was a mesmerizing presence, Satsuki Yukino was in it who is a living treasure, and thriller is my favorite genre, but the pacing and writing let it down, sadly. |
WatchTillTandavaJul 2, 2020 10:27 PM
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wape said: sorry for my question but what is LoGH?Nah, it's just these people have already watched LoGH and like comparing it to anything that looks remotely deep. Also: Fl0ri4n said: weebs are just pussies that cant handle the suicide topic |
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wape said: Can't be more overrated than Monogatari or KonosubaFl0ri4n said: Legend of the Galactic Heroes. Quite possibly the most overrated piece of fiction ever.sorry for my question but what is LoGH? |
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Fl0ri4n said: Can't be more overrated than Monogatari or Konosuba how Konosuba is overrated with an 8.16 score and in top 300 anime in MAL ? |
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